swapped out the board with a new Intel DX48BT2 from Frys today and the same issues continue to plague me, if not I think this board is even a bit more unstable. I'm going to give up and swap out to another board.
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swapped out the board with a new Intel DX48BT2 from Frys today and the same issues continue to plague me, if not I think this board is even a bit more unstable. I'm going to give up and swap out to another board.
John (silvr)
Before you do that, take out your audio, or make sure you have all the on board audio off/disabled.
Creative labs make good chips, but SUCK at drivers. Ok, most the time the cards have some compatibility problems.
I not over clock teh FSB, I am at 400, but I can push my RAM at 1600 (2x2GB) well at 7-7-7-18-60-5-7-5-5-1T.. So that is great.
I 24x7 Fold on my 4870 and 4 cores are on 100% running BIONIC. One SETI applicaiton is true 64bit which also runs fine.
Next time, spend money on the unlocked CPU and not worry about overclocking the booard.. It easier in the long run, when you factor in your time vs. money.
R
raising the FSB gives you more memory bandwidth though. 9*445 will be faster overall than 10*400.
Already removed the sound card.
I'm sorry but telling me that it's an overclocking problem when the motherboard has obvious issues is not a valid response. I do appreciate the help but no way will I ever pay extra for an unlocked CPU when they should be locked anyways.
The X48 is supposed to support 400/1600, unfortunately it's not even close to being stable on the default voltage/settings. This is not an overclocking problem. This is a stability issue with this board/BIOS.
- John
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Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
did you try a qx9770?Quote:
The X48 is supposed to support 400/1600
Has anyone noticed yet, the cooling solution on the newer 4870 x2 2GB cards slightly foul the SATA ports 0 and 1 (the top two ports if mobo is held with CPU at the top) on this board?
That's with any full length video card, they should have been lower or facing to the side of the board. I have the same issue with a BFG 9800GX2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider
On paper yes, but in reality no, not always. From CPU to North bridge yes, but NB to RAM that depends.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
1) If you had to bump up the RAM timmings to get the ram to work at the new clock rate. At times you have add latencies that are greater than the change from 400-445.
2) Being forced into 2T timming on the higher FSB. Many times I have seen in the past lower freq. and 1T are better, unless you are able to really bump up the ram freq. to then again compensate for 2T. It does appear Intel NB and depenind on # of ranks and chip banks can optimize out some of the 2T penelties.
On the other had in one or more past NB, I have noticed looser timmings actually result in higher throughput. As different RAM settings worth better with FSB,RAM bus freq. domain changes (odd memory divisors).
-R
Well I have to have a board with 3 PCIe slots where #3 >= 8x for my hardware RAID controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by silvrhand
Thus a number of boards were out of the selection processes. If I was to give it a try with a real overclocking board I would replace our Intel boards with DFI's version. The versions I have had in the past were a PITA to get right, but once done had pretty good OC. But that was a long time ago.
But this is moot, as I will sell this (which never seems to happen, I have x38 board, 680i, QX9700 and a E6600) in boxes now. When I upgrad to the x58 board. Then with the new CPU I am forgo the QX version to save some $$.
-R
in case anyone is wondering, you can fit two Radeon 4870's on this board with all six SATA ports in use. i have three SATA hard drives, two DVD drives, and an eSATA port on my case's front panel. all my SATA ports are used and the video cards don't block them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1/P7240016.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1/P7250019.jpg
A 280GTX also takes out 2 ports. I have a pair of 4870's as well and the ports are all open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider
Hello Bonetail folks.
I am about to make my final purchases for my new system. My main goal my systems are stability. I dont plan to OC this rig. If I could get some imput on it I would really like that. One main concern is the Mem I am getting or plan to.. Any imput would be great.. good or bad.
Specs:
MB: Intel DX48BT2
Proc: Q9550
Mem OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) (combo with the processor from the egg)
Drive: V-raptor
Video EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit (I know sli is not supported the card was given to me)
PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
OS: Vista Ultimate SP1 English NA DVD - Retail
Thanks for your time and any comments.
:welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainstir
I don't think you'll have any problem but the at 9-9-9, the Fatal1ty series isn't exactly the speediest. I'd go with the Platinum series at 7-7-7 if your budget allows. If not, don't worry about it.
I used to run a pair of 3870's without any fouling, myself...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
but the (at least) HIS 4870x2 (not two individual 4870 cards but the new one card with two gpu's onboard)
It's certainly a nice card though.
i don't think it would be worth it to buy a DDR3 motherboard if you don't plan on overclocking. DDR2 still costs less and has no trouble with the speeds you'll need to run a stock Q9550.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainstir
Sweet looking rig! Why not cap it off with an OCZ Vendetta 2 instead of that ASUS HS? Still extremely quiet, but the temps will likely allow you to squeeze out a little more overclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
thank you very much. i love my Asus heatsink because it's pretty and i'm shallow:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/davedave01/3.jpg
besides, it has a special baffle inside that directs some of the airflow onto my VRM heatsinks, so it helps keep everything cool.
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Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
Today I recieved my Q9550 and the ram for my new build. I put it all togeter and on the first push of the start botton it has worked. I have Win Vist 64 install.. it seems to work very well on my bonetail 48. what a nice machine. Now to install some nice games :) Thanks for the advice I had asked for.. it paid off and I didnt fry 1600 dollars :)
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Originally Posted by Rainstir
:eek: Someones actually happy with this board out of the box !
I see no one posting new features on the newest 1814 BIOS. Nothing new? Still no mem timings enhancements? Is tRD (or Performance Level, whatever you wanna call it) already available?
Tony, where are you man? Any news you can share with the crowd?
I guess the power cycling issue is still there, otherwise someone would have noticed it, right?
Guess IDCC will stay Beta forever, no new versions out for a (long) while now. Believe it or not I like the little sucker.
Intel engineers, if you're listening/reading (I know you are), for when UEFI?
i went to a LAN party this weekend and i can absolutely confirm that 1814 did not fix the no-POST after power has been cut off. we kept tripping circuit breakers and i was always the last person to get my computer rebooted because i had to boot it twice each time.
Odd, 1814 fixed the no-post after power issue on my x38 board but not the x48. Anyway, I just spent the weekend retuning both boards from scratch and I can say that 1814 is the best BIOS so far. I was able to get both boards stable with less voltage and tighter timings than before. Possibly because the GTL Reference voltage settings now work. Dropping them from 67 to 64-66 did a lot for me above 430 FSB.
Well we may have a another problem if anyone besides me because I did it already, wants to upgrade to a 4870x2,the x48 chipset has problem with this card from what I read on the net and what happen to me if I try to play games on it. As soon as the game loads to play, the screen turns black and the computer restarts, it does it when I try to run 3dmark06 and in wow it runs for little until the graphics level goes up.
I try the card in a p35 board and it works.
IMHO, X38 is constructed for CrossFire (ATI) and X48 for SLI (nVidia)
btw. Mobo won't work stable on oc'ed settings. On default - it's my best hardware ever.
Intel was'nt kidded about n00bz 8)
X48 is CrossFire only. you can't SLI on it.
Yeah, SLI in theory will not work on any chipset but nVidia's. For me, it's just a driver issue, nothing else, and nVidia trying to profit on having the BR04 (nv200) bridge on every mobo with chipsets but their own. I'm getting so fed up with nVidia and their arrogant actions. AMD is kicking them in the butt and that is good, maybe they'll learn something.
Anyway, they'll have to, sooner or later, release SLI for others, I believe the rumour is true regarding nVidia leaving the chipset business.
does anyone in here have all four memory slots used on their Bone Trail? i just bought a new 2x1 GB kit to fill up all my slots and i can barely boot into Windows. i've tried loosening the memory timings, lowering my FSB, and raising my vFSB and vMCH. i haven't tried to go below 400 FSB, but it would be pointless to do that anyway. i'd rather just eat the money and buy a new 2x2 GB kit than lower my clocks that far.
Right now I'm running the BT2 at 425fsb with 4x1gb. At 1 time I did have the BT at 400 x 4x1gb but not in a while. You're going to need to push the Vmch pretty hard to be stable over 400. I'm at 1.425 on the BT2 so the BT might need closer to 1.5, You shouldn't need to touch the Vfsb or any other voltages except the Vdimm. For that, you'll need to go up a notch or 2 from what was stable with 2 sticks.
Another thing to try is going from 333/1333 to 400/1600. For some inexplicable reason, I'm getting better Everest throughput at 400/1600 with 4 sticks.
thanks for your help. i tried everything i was willing to try and decided to eat the restocking fee and just save up for a good 2x2 GB kit instead. i wasn't enthusiastic about the idea of lowering my overclock just to add some extra RAM. those G.Skill PI kits are looking pretty good to me.
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Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
I ran into the same problem with Patriot 1333 when adding 2 additional 1GB sticks. Ended up going with Mushkin 2 X 2GB kit to keep my timings low and run 1T.
Thanks you guys for pointing that out, I kinda was itching to have 4G also, guess I'll have to go 2x2G too instead.
Are you using the black or blue slots?
Intel hasn't yet corrected the chipset drivers available download, these guys suck. Thay also posted the wrong description for the new integrator assistant, now corrected.
But rejoyce, there is a new download available, the NoBoot Wizard v1.0, great!!
What about IDCC, is it dead already, before leaving beta status?
Good news, well sort of!! nVidia finally released SLI to Intel chipsets at nVision08, I was surethey had to eventually. Not so good is that it will be only to X58, not older chipsets. They'll be controlling it with a BIOS resident cookie for detection, can you believe this?! Those bastards, I guess I'll just stop buying their hardware. Intel Larrabee, if any good, will be my next choice I guess. 4870 looks real good but I'm not much of an AMD fan.
nVidia states that they finally could overcome the limitations of implementing SLI on other chipsets, with PCIe 2 (how long has it been out already?!) and broadcast was, out of the blue, implemented in software rather than hardware. Wow, those guys are really full of it.
Nvidia didn't have to overcome any hardware limitations to make SLI work on Intel chipsets. it was a business decision from the beginning. the only thing stopping SLI from happening earlier was the fact that Nvidia wouldn't license it to Intel.
Yeah, of course it was just a matter of keeping tech under control, on their own chipsets alone. Still, they tried to convince everybody that there were hardware limitations and now, just like that, they say after all they just fixed it. Still, I'm hoping they'll allow SLI also for other chipsets, like the X38/48 in our BoneTrails.
I really think nVidia is loosing it, the only way is down now. Too bad.
at last i had buy some DDR3, so later they should be in my hands :D i hope they´ll work on my first try :confused: , they are 2 X 1Gb Gskill DDR3@1600Mhz i will keep you updated whit the facts :up:
i've always been real happy with G.Skill memory. i just replaced my Patriot DDR3 1600 2GB kit with this G.Skill DDR3 1333 4GB kit and i can't believe how good it is. it has double the capacity, costs less per GB, runs at the same speed and settings, and uses less volts to boot. i didn't think that was possible.
here are some numbers with the memory at DDR 1480 6-6-6-16 1T @ 1.7V
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...killbench1.jpg
i'm real happy with it. this neverending southern california summer is probably going to force me to replace my Asus heatsink with an Enzotech Ultra 120 very soon. i'll let you guys know how it works and if i have any clearance issues.
and :welcome: Avant
I've got two problems, and I believe they are interelated with the addtion of the 4870X2. I know DFI X38/X48 boards had issues, and I believe the Intel ones do too. Cooling and power supply should be an issue as you can see from the specs below I've retrofitted the MB into an HP Blackbird 002 case, and I've tweaked all the fan settings in IDDC.
I've been a long time user of the DX38BT board with a QX9650 and 4GB (2 x 2GB) of Corsair XMS3 CM3X2G1600C9DHX, along with an 8800GTX. It's been successfully overclocked to 375 x 10 with the memory at 1500MHz for a long time.
When I put in the 4870X2, the system would no longer run. The only way I could fix it was to run the memory at 1066MHz. And the strange thing is, at 1333MHz, memtest86+ and Prime95 would be completely stable. Running games or watching a DVD would cause random reboots.
So the other day I upgraded to a DX48BT2 with a QX9770. Same sort of issues. Stable memtest86+ and Prime95 at 1600MHz, but random reboots. Turning the memory down to 1333MHz is the only thing that made them go away.
So there appear to be lots of threads in the Corsair forums about getting 1600MHz stable on the DX48BT2.
http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=70421
http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=72074
And the other day I guy posted similar problems in the HardForums.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....post1032987791
Anybody seeing similar issues that their 4870X2 gives random reboots, and the only way to fix it is to turn down their DDR3 bus speed, even if it's running at stock speeds?
I haven't tried the 8800GTX in the DX48BT2 setup because I've been doing clean installs of Vista inbetween and I really don't want to do it yet again. :-)
Here's my setup:
Motherboard
Intel DX48BT2
Processor
QX9770
Memory
TW3X4G1600C9DHX
Video Card # 1
Visiontek 4870X2
Hard Drive # 1
1 TB Seagate
Hard Drive # 2
1 TB Seagate
Optical Drive # 1
DVD+/-RW
Optical Drive # 2
BluRay REW
Case
HP Blackbird 002
Power Supply
Topower Blackbird 1.1kW
Sound Card
Creative Labs Soundblaster Exteme Gamer
Monitor
HP 30" LP3065
Operating System
Windows Vista x64
Well, I finally installed this board and I think it's defective. Continuously turns on and off as soon as I turn on the powersupply at every 2 second intervals with no post whatsoever and no beep warning, but the green light turns on the motherboard.:smoke:
- DX48BT2
- Q6600GO
- Mushkin 996625 (2x2GB) 1600mhz ( tried various slot allocations as per instruction - tried only one DIMM)
- *alternative Mushkin 996583 (2x1GB) 1333MHZ ( tried both and one only)
- Tried two different Videocards
- Tried without RAM
- Removed from the case, reseated the hsf.
Bios reset, bios pin removal, bios battery removal.:scope:
I can't see it being my PC POWER 750W unit but I did short to pins to see if it ran and measured the voltage output and all is good.:shrug:
I called Intel customer service at 916/377-7000 and they indicated that they have seen this problem and apparently the new bios solves this issue but obviously I can't even boot so there is no way I can flash. They issued an RMA and now I have to ship it out at a cost of $48.00 and they will not ship out one until they have received the motherboard and have assessed the problem - TERRIBLE SERVICE!:mad:.
I'm not going to wait so I'm going to pick up the ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME and sell off the Intel or use it for another systems.
It definitely sounds like you got a bad board but Intel will cross-ship you one if you ask. It's 12 bucks or something but they pay shipping both ways and they'll do next day delivery. You then get 30 days to return the bad board or they charge your credit card $168. Press them on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
I exchanged a board 2 weeks ago. Called them on Thursday...had a new board on Friday morning.
The new BIOS fixed it on the DX38BT, but NOT the DX48BT2. Tell them to try it again! I only experience it when doing a Restart From Vista. A Shutdown works fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
Here's how to get the PC up and running. While it's cycling back and forth push and hold the power button down for 4 seconds until the machine shuts off. Let go of the button. Then lightly press and let go of the button. It should stop the power cycling and boot up normally. If that doesn't do it, put the jumper in maintenance mode, get into the BIOS, and quit out. If it happens again, the power button trick should get around it.
Back to 1554 bios for me. 1814 started all types of random reboots and USB issues.
i recently do some Orthos testing and i had errors at the speed i've been running at since i built this computer. i assumed there was some CPU degradation or the summer heat makes me less stable than i was before. i lowered my FSB by 10 MHz and i'm golden again. it is possible that the 1814 BIOS was the culprit though. i'm not going to lose any sleep over a few MHz, so i just downclocked a bit, tested, and forgot about it.
someone in this thread once mentioned that he didn't have Dolby settings in his IDT audio control panel. i just realized that he must have a 64-bit operating system. now that i'm running Vista 64 i see that Intel doesn't have any downloads for me to use IDCC or the Dolby controller. i find it kind of ironic (stupid) that Intel has bragged about their 64-bit processors for years and they don't seem to have any 64-bit software to work with this hardware.
has anyone with a 64-bit OS tried to install the Dolby thing or IDCC? will the 32-bit versions of those programs work on Vista 64?
...then the Intel service department doesn't know what he's talking about because he specifically said that the new bios fixed this problem - go figure:shakes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_carty
I tried you're solution but it didn't work but thanks.:)
IDCC work's fine here.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
I'll give them a call on Monday, thanks:)Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Hi x
It was me who didn't get the Dolby tab in IDT drivers, but sorry to say that I'm on Vista x32, not x64. I guess that is not the reason. I have to re-install Vista and see if shows then, maybe it's because my Vista install is from when my BIOS was a really early version, 1251, the original one. Maybe the SATA drives issue comes from there too. Re-install time I guess.
Regarding IDCC, well there wasn't been any development recently - maybe Intel binned it, I believe it will run on x64 from the latest version 4.1.0.168, I believe the readme mentions it. Also, the download site confirms it. There are also performance/burn-in testing apps to go along with it that are x64 as well.
Think, Intel support at it's best as usual.
yeah, i installed IDCC last night without issue. i'm going to try the Dolby program too. it isn't listed in Vista 64's download page, but it is listed in Vista 32's download page. if it works on the 32-bit OS, it should work on mine as well.
i also decided my Asus heatsink is more than good enough and it wouldn't be worth it to spend $60 on a new heatsink just to lower my CPU temp by 3 degrees. i read some reviews yesterday and the top rated heatsinks don't appeal to me. the Enzo heatsink is barely better than mine.
i also started having trouble doing soft reboots from Vista last night. not sure if it's a BIOS thing or what. serves me right for saying my board reboots fine with the new BIOS. apparently i spoke too soon.
Manel, don't reinstall Vista just yet. the reason i brought the Dolby thing up is because i only have it on my XP partition. it doesn't show up in my IDT control panel in Vista. i'm gonna try to solve that puzzle tonight.
:up::up::up: i just pluged all on and it Works!!!!!! :eek:
first thing to do before go any longer, Flash Bios to 1814 whit iflash solution whit my USB, then play around whit the FSB and get 385x8 on my Q9450, i don´t want to touch the v so i don´t think to go far from here:shakes:
my setup:
BX38BT /bios 1814
Q9450 @ 385MHz x 8/Vendetta 2
2x1Gb Gskill @ 1600MHz 7-7-7-18-60 T1
Visiontek 4870 820Mhz / 1120Mhz
P&C silencer 750 crossfire edition
Maudio 1010lt
i´d like to go 1800Mhz whit the Gskills but it seems that only 1600MHz are avaliable....
I was going to try dropping mine a bit as well (no major OC to begin with) to get rid of the issues I had with 1814, but I thought since everything ran so well with the prior bios, I would just try going back first. Which seemed to work for me. Now the random reboot issue is gone, but every once in a while the machine refuses to sleep. Hard to tell where to start on that one because of the crossfire drivers and OC and bios. Oh well, at least it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
I guess I'll have to re-install anyway, at least to check if the SATA issue goes away. I thought of going x64 as well but not sure anymore. How are drivers for x64 nowadays? I'm only on 2GB at the moment so maybe it's not really necessary.
I was going for the 1814 but don't know anymore. Some problems seem to exist. Guess I'll wait a while.
Intel has been quiet for long now, no new releases. They now have the chipset drivers saying for X38 and X48, but the older version still.
I can't remember any BSOD for a long time now and latelly I had 2, this is odd. Also, my Norton now goes nuts sometimes, giving errors all the time. I was moving my rig and, like everyone else, after a power disconnection there comes the no boot issue. I hope my hard drive isn't going bad. I really have to unplug it when this happens also. Don't wanna ruin it.
i'm liking Vista 64 so far. most of the programs i have installed are 32-bit programs, but everything installed easily except my four year-old Dell printer software.
every time i do a soft reboot from Windows i get a BSOD after the computer reboots when Windows tries to load now. i know i recently swapped my system memory, but i've tested stable again and again. i've passed Memtest, Prime, and even Intel Linpack. no errors on any of those tests. this is the exact same issue i had two BIOS releases ago. the only way around it is to turn the computer off, wait a couple seconds, and turn it back on again. hitting "Restart" from within Windows guarantees Windows won't load after the reboot. this is clearly a motherboard issue.
It's nice when that happens. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
Well I called Intel up and since I'm considered International ( Canada ) I have to ship it to them first ( $32.00 ) and wait for it to arrive. I'm going to put my q6600 with the extra DDR3 and one Raptor 150 and build a separate gaming rig with the Asus rampage..
Manel, did your reboot problem go away when you reverted to the older BIOS?
Also noticed that after coming out of sleep mode:
CPU temp reads -1C
Mboard Temp 255C
No system fan RPMS.
All this from Everest.
See my previous post. I have the same issues and I'm wondering if it's my 4870X2 instead of the MB. I'm hesitant to put my 8800GTX back in, but I might just do it this weekend to eliminate that possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
i've confirmed that Intel does not have a Dolby Control Center installer for Vista 64. they only have a 32-bit version. when i try to install it, it says it can't find "stapi32.dll" in the audio driver. the obvious fix to that is to install the 32-bit audio driver instead of the 64-bit audio driver, right? wrong. Intel has a universal audio driver installer that comes in one package and automatically detects your OS. therefore, i can't install the 32-bit driver. i'm stuck with the 64-bit one, which means i can't install Dolby. which means i have a handful of movies i can't watch the right way.
i switch over to my XP x86 partition and everything works fine. if anyone has a way around this, i'll pay good $$$ for an answer.
Hi x
Hasn't happened again since, mistery why it did in the first place. Anyway, seems to be normal again.
Regarding Dolby, I can install Dolby Control Center (I'm on x32) but the Dolby tab doesn't show in the IDT audio drivers. Don't really watch movies on the PC but it's still a bummer.
Has Intel given you any solution? Maybe there isn't a x64 version really.
That's the kind of thing that still keeps me away from x64, still limited support.
Intel responded by saying they don't offer a 64-bit version, which i had already figured out. i told them i didn't consider that a very good answer and i want something done about that. haven't heard back from them yet.
i can watch movies without the Dolby control center, of course, but i'm not getting the quality and features i want. i specifically need the ability to downscale from 7.1 to stereo sound. i'm using a program called Media Player Classic HomeCinema that uses my video cards' Avivo capabilities. i can watch 1080p high def movies on my computer and it only uses 3% of my CPU because it's all being rendered on my video card. very cool stuff. the problem is that this program is trying to output 7.1 sound and my surround speakers are sitting in a box somewhere. when i run these movies in XP x86, everything works. when i run them in Vista 64 with no Dolby, i get no sound.
i still consider sound cards a ripoff, so i'll hope my persistence can get Intel to support their product the way they should.
Is that true that I cannot install Server based Windows (like: windows 2003 server) on my DX38BT based system?!
it seems that intel doesn't support Server Based Operating Systems on its Desktop Boards!
Intel doesn't support much of anything. that doesn't mean you can't run Windows Server 2003 on this motherboard though. the motherboard doesn't care which OS you install.
xMrBunglex,
it seems you have newly installed IDCC on your Vista x64 OS.
I have many problems with this beta software, and I wanted to know if you have one of these problems with IDCC.
The problem is that Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility Service (PerfTuneService.exe) is not starting up sometimes, resulting in IDCC start up failure.
and I will also get an error when I'm going to start it manually from services console.
Did you encounter this ever?
i don't think i've had that particular problem, but it is a beta program. there are other, better programs available for system monitoring. i use Everest Ultimate. all the features in IDCC that aren't in Everest (fan speed control, memory timings) are generally best edited in the BIOS anyway.
+1 for Lavalys's Everest Ultimate edition. Recently updated to 4.6 and properly recognizes my DX48BT2 instead of reporting it as a DX38BT as the previous edition did. Also is ready for Core i7 monitoring as well. Here's their page on "what's new" : http://www.lavalys.com/products/what...?ps=UE&lang=en
Probably the best system monitoring app bar none.
Yes, you are rightQuote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
But setting the fan control to Automatic(Enabled) in my DX38BT BIOS, makes no difference, and the fan speed remains on 800-900 rpm all the way!
I correct my previous post,
The automatic Fan Control in Bios, seems to work time to time.
I had problem with it before, but now in my Vista x64 it worked !!!
So this seems to be the only board on the net with good info on this mobo from my experiences....
So I was able to overclock (Q6600) to 3.0 which is all i really wanted, it took forever and the settings that worked were as follows:
Vcore (default of 1.325)
FSB: (default 1.20)
MCH: (default 1.25)
FSB : 333 X 9 multi
Mem ref freq : 400 fsb
Mem mhz : 1333
C1E or whatever disabled, EIST as well
Watchdog disabled, Enhanced powerslope enabled
This worked after i relaxed my corsair 1333 pc 1066 timings from the default of 7-7-7-20 to 9-9-9-24 and put voltage to 1.70 from default 1.54 (although it may of worked at default voltage but i didn't test it since it was rated at 1.7)
However, i noticed when i wasn't just killing the power by pressing the button (hard boot), and i would actually go through the shutdown process, the reboot would just hang at an empty black screen. If i turned off the power supply and tried again it would go through the normal start/restart once and then be fine.
Why is this only an issue with normal reboot, i would rather not have to hard boot every time since its not the best for the PC. Although i suppose i could just shut off the power supply after every shutdown, but thats not that convenient.
On a side note with my memory settings of FSB 333, mem ref 400 and mem mhz 1333, i only get something like 1100ish clock speed, i tried using the memory calculator to go down to 266 mem ref freq and 1066 clock speed to get 1333 speed, but i had to jump the bios because of constant reboots.
Thanks in advance,
-Mark
:welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by solaxun
I think the reboot problem is that you have the reference frequency set to 400. This also underclocks your memory.
You should be able to run 333/1333 with all your default timings and memory voltage.
Do you have the X38 or X48 board?
can you explain that please? my computer won't soft boot without blue screening, but i don't see how the FSB reference frequency has anything to do with that. i run mine at 400/1333 because of my high FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Sorry MB, this was more for Solaxun. He's got a low fsb (only 333) and I think that the 400 ref freq may be setting the mch timings too loose.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
gtj,
I will try to lower the memory ref frequency to 333 from 400, i think it was defaulting at 266 if i remember. I will keep FSB at 333, mem mhz at 1333, and everything else stock as well. Please note that with mem ref freq @ 400, the system was stable, it just wouldn't soft boot without hanging at the black screen, hard booting was fine, and soft booting with turning power supply off afterwards was also fine.
I will get back to you this evening or shortly after, thanks for your reply i appreciate your help alot, you've already saved me tons of time through your posts.
Ok, so i kept everything unchanged but put the ref freq back down to 333 from 400, resulting in an effective memory clock of 1333. Same results as other clocks, system hanged at a black screen, this time i was able to get lucky and reboot 5 or 6 times until i got back to the bios, didn't have to jump it.
So the settings i posted previously are what i am using for now, but my memory is clocked under its rated 1333 memory, and a bit over its SPD of 1066, at an effective memory of 1150ish. This is now on windows xp 64, i was on 32 bit earlier and upgraded.
And i also noticed that hibernating has the same affect as soft booting , black screen. Apparently i have to hard boot every time, or shut the power supply off every time if i soft boot. I guess i dont mind hard booting every time, but it's not particularly great for the computer from what i know. If i close all windows prior to hard booting is it still harmful? Either way not a good long term solution :shrug:
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Originally Posted by solaxun
Hmmm. There's no way that the board should have problems with 333/1333 at 333FSB but if 400 gets you stable, so be it. You could also try 400/1600 as that'll give you the same ratio as 333/1333.Quote:
Originally Posted by solaxun
Never tried hibernate so I can't comment there, but your correct in that the hard power cycle isn't a great long term solution.
Also, update your signature so we can see what you're running.
EDIT: Other things to try...
Raise the vFSB slightly and see if that helps
Lower the GTL CPU0 and CPU1 reference voltage percentages by 1 notch or 2.
I'll give it a shot again -- these boards are not particularly user friendly. I don't think I'll mess with intel again on the next go around. I also wish the board was SLI ready so i could be a bit more future proof, maybe in retrospect i should of got that 4870 x2, just didn't care for ATI and i thought nvidia would pull their heads outta their asses and enable SLI eventually on this board.
I used to have the problems you mentioned and then my older PSU went "poof".Quote:
Originally Posted by solaxun
When I purchased a new PSU with better specifications than my previous one, both S3 Standby and Hibernate worked much better. It's possible that the +5vbs line may be not providing sufficient current to the board.
What made the S3 Standby totally solid with no further problems of any kind was to also make sure UEFI boot was not enabled (you'll see it in the boot menu of the BIOS).
Hi guys, Nice to join the group.
I couldn't log in for a month and finally was able to.
I read alot of this thread. I have Patriot Extreme 1600, but it doesn't seem to be the favourite mem here.
I wanted to go for ReaperX 1333 6-5-5-18.
Just wanted to know is it worth it??
Besides I can't even get my mem to run at 1333 without being unstable.
:shrug:
i had 2 gigs of Patriot Viper Extreme 1600 and it was good memory. i ran it at 1600 7-7-7-18 1T and 1500 6-6-6-16 1T. it would probably be a waste to buy memory with slightly better timings.
i enabled UEFI and it just turned my USB ports off until Windows started to load. the only way to get back into BIOS was to reset the frigging jumper.Quote:
Originally Posted by HighTest
Thanks for the reply xMrBunglex.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
I imagine that you had to raise cpu timings to run that mem at those settings because it shows 1066 @ stock settings. I can run @ profile1 but had to raise cpu settings and got a stable 1600 XMP.
I don't want the Reaper for faster timmings but rather because I only have 2048 and got a few low mem issues, so I want to go up to 2X2Gig
Is it worth it or just stick to OCZ Gold?
Thanks :shrug:
if you want 4 gigs of memory, 2x2 gig is definitely the way to go. i tried 4x1 and it really limited my overclock. i ended buying this G.Skill kit and it rocks. good overclocker, tight timings, cheap price tag. i'd recommend it.
Thanks for the input.
:up:
I found however, while in standby mode that the USB ports were turned off again. As both keyboard and mouse were USB it forced me to use the power button. That's why I refer to the UEFI when one encounters S3 Standby issues. It wasn't 100% consistant, but majority of the time you'd pound away on the keyboard or run the mouse all over the place with no awaking response.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
Don't enable UEFI on this board, unfortunatelly this board will not, almost for sure, have a version for it.
UEFI is supported in Vista SP1 already, but not before anyway.
UEFI will eventually replace the good old BIOS, some manufaturers have already started to sample some boards with it, like MSI, but still not mainstream.
Intel, the project initiator, has it in workstation and server boards, but not in desktop boards. I asked them if there would be UEFI for BoneTrail but the answer was evasive as usual.
Another review is up for the DX48BT2, check it out in: http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...US-ECS--Intel/
As usual, when it come to oc'ing everyone gets an headache. It takes time and patience, this baby needs a lot of attention first...
I love reviews like this one. 13 pages of absolutely no useful information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
Guys, i´m having problems whit the OC of this mobo:shakes:... i can only reach 3Ghz 380mhzx8 whit my Q9450, in everest the Vcore seems to be alive:eek:.... it change i already disable C1, wachdog so i don´t really understand whats going on because in CPU-z the vcore always is 1.213 no matter what.....also i want to learn the meaning of all setings on bios, does any one knows good documentation other than intel´s one?
my setup:
BX38BT bios 1814
Q9450
2x1Gb Gskill PC12800 7-7-7-18
4870
sorry my bad english:p:
gtj, I posted the link but like you said, it's just another crappy review, like so many nowadays. Grab a couple of mobos and just through a few benches at them and there you have it, a nice review.
Just posted it for you guys to check out if you want.
after few atempts to get this mobo with better oc i made a few changes, CPUv= 1.450 FSBv= 1.275 MCH/ICHv= 1.350 multi=8 CLock=415Mhz with this i´m able to boot even to run win but not pass the stability test on everest can anyone help me?
your vCPU may or may not be a little high. it's a lot higher than i run my dual core at though. your vFSB and vMCH seem low to me. with 1.35 vFSB and 1.425 vMCH, i'm able to go as high as 450 FSB without running hot. i'd suggest upping your MCH and FSB volts a bit. you might find you can lower your vCore after you've confirmed stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
Thanks xMrBunglex :up::up::up: great results with your help, my new sets:Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
vCPU= 1.375v
vFSB= 1.350v
vMCH= 1.425v
FSB= 430Mhz
multi= 8
memory= 1718Mhz
Ref= 400Mhz
idle= 34ºc
load= 51ºC
Aux(i think this is northB?)= 33ºc
i want to go 450 FSB but i dont really want vCPU to high..... so what do you guys think?
i think that's a pretty nice overclock for a quad. you could probably go higher if you wanted, but i can't imagine why you'd need to. you can always leave a little headroom in case you get bored on a rainy sunday sometime in the future ;)
What the FSB Voltage stands for?
I got overclocked to FSB=423MHz (CPU:9x,3808MHz) with V_FSB=1.200 (Default), V_MCH=1.350 and V_CPU=1.3500 (Not sure for stability on this cpu voltage, but I'm testing)
What Errors or unstabilities I should encounter, if I'm at low FSB Voltage?
FYI,
I found I can lower my vCPU than using Intel's "Auto" setting, which is nice how it predicts upping the vCore for you. But I found it a bit to aggressive than needed for my qx9770 version. I can run 24x7 at 1.33 (bios) and Enh. power curve along with F@H... I still run 400x9 for 3.6Ghz.
What I hate is their "auto" on GTL ref's are useless.
-R
Looks pretty good to me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
Unfortunately it'll be general in nature. It might look like a CPU problem or a memory problem. If your system is otherwise stable, I'd leave it. If you wanted to increase it a notch or 2, it won't hurt anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahyar.FF
:shocked: some people told me that 1.375 vCPU is actually the max vtt for a Q9450..... so i get lower my vCPU and it is stable now at 1.3 on bios, everst CPUID shows me 1.242 and 1.253 variance value for ide and a 1.230 for load
i´m a litte bit scared with the idea of electomigration..... how do i know if i have it on my 45nm quad?
How do you now? It might start out with having to lower running freq. and possibly more volts, which compounds the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
OR, the chip just fails.
-R
a guy on this thread told me XD
in my case it was a matter of vFSB and vMCH so they fix my stability
:rolleyes: gtj can you post your vcore, vtt, vmch, gtl´s of your BX38BT with the Q9300 please? ;)