Official GIGA P35-S3/DS3/DS3R/DS3P/DS4/DQ6 bios/info thread

mm 500 FSB with a quad is already extreem, bundle that with an entry level board like the DS3P, I would opt for the DS4 rev 2.0 mate better PWM area, heatpipe etc... and surely will last longer when being heavily pushed then a DS3P

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

mm 500 FSB with a quad is already extreem, bundle that with an entry level board like the DS3P, I would opt for the DS4 rev 2.0 mate better PWM area, heatpipe etc... and surely will last longer when being heavily pushed then a DS3P

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dude the Only thing that the DS4 has over DS3P is the heatpipe, everything else is the same including the PWM

kindda mixed up DS3P with DS3 :p my humble apologies, the heatsink works fab though on the DS4, in comparison to my P5K Dlx...

I can't recommend the DS3P for anyone wanting to OC a quadcore high and do anything 3D. The PCI-E x1 problem is a huge :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:.

have you try it??? im goin to use dry ice with 1.7++ Vcore and of course would do 3d and some bench software....

Yeah, I used the board for a few weeks, and it kept reverting the PCI-E x16 slot to x1. I needed more than +.2 vMCH, which you probably will to, and that is what usually triggers the x1 problem.

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Originally Posted by SySTaXer

I have a bit of interesting info here. The gigabyte forum rep wich I talked about earlier had to say this about the PCIE issue:



So P35 chipset does have problem with any MCH voltage higher than +0.2



Anyone knows if X38 behaves the same when using high MCH voltage?

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That's what Gigabyte rep thinks... :p:

Indeed P35 chipset inherited a prob from 965 and that's PCI-E 1X prob. I've seen reports (very little though) about same prob happening to some P5K boards (Deluxe and Premium) but these are a minority. In gigabyte m/bs this is the trend.

I've used to own a P35 DS4 for 2 weeks and that problem was the main reason i returned it back. Grabbed a IP35 Pro and have been more than happy. No pci-e 1x prob and that brings us to the Gigabyte rep... ;)


There haven't been any reports with X38 boards reverting to 1X.

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Originally Posted by Botijo

Hi, My P35 DS3 (F6 Bios) lost the overclock many times after the system power down.
When the system start, ocasionaly go down (like a reset) and restart with the default values.

I had a 4300@3000Mhz with 333 fsb, my mems are quimonda 800 runing at 667 1:1 or 800 (also lost the oc)

Any can help me?

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Do you use the hibernate mode in Windows instead of shutting down your PC ?

I know my PC revert back to default bios settings when it wakes up from hibernation.

I just got my DS3R, and it's great except for the fact that it won't POST with my PC-8000 2.2v Crucial RAM.
It will, however, work with some old Corsair RAM which I think is rated at 1.9v.
I've tried both Crucial sticks individually, and I'm sure they aren't bad.

So, is this a known issue, and is there any way to resolve it other than switching out the RAM sticks after manually changing the voltage?

I never had the PCIex x1 issue.

For testing purposes I flashed my DQ6 to BIOS F7b.
Set my usual overclock (8.0x420, RAM divider 2.50, vdimm +0.25v)
And I raised the other voltages, including MCH. First to +0.2 then later to +0.325. I manually set PCIex frequency to 100.

PCIex x1 issue did not show up. I still have PCIex working at x16.

Can't see any useful changes from F6 to F7a/b so far. Now the CPU clock is displayed at the MIT menu. But the voltages are still shown "OK" rather than the actual readings.

So I don't know if the PCIex reverts to x1 in particular cases, or in combination of hardware used, or higher FSBs. Who knows...

Okay, this is weird...

I set the vdimm to 2.2 with my corsair sticks in, switched em out with my crucial sticks, and now when i boot, instead of posting, it loads up some bootblock bios thing that just says "scanning bios image in harddrive"??

Uh... help?

darcon, if you get that everytime you power up your PC it means that your BIOS is corrupt.

If its looking for the file it may be easy to make the BIOS recovery procedure.

Try copying the BIOS update file to a floppy disk or to a USB drive and power on the computer with either of them, maybe the computer will look for the BIOS update file and flash the BIOS.

I don't know what is the precise BIOS recovery procedure for these new BIOSes but it should be something like that...

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Originally Posted by r4st4m4n

Do you use the hibernate mode in Windows instead of shutting down your PC ?

I know my PC revert back to default bios settings when it wakes up from hibernation.

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No the system comes from a full power down. thx

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Originally Posted by Krohling

darcon, if you get that everytime you power up your PC it means that your BIOS is corrupt.

If its looking for the file it may be easy to make the BIOS recovery procedure.

Try copying the BIOS update file to a floppy disk or to a USB drive and power on the computer with either of them, maybe the computer will look for the BIOS update file and flash the BIOS.

I don't know what is the precise BIOS recovery procedure for these new BIOSes but it should be something like that...

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I only get it when using my Crucial ram. If I use my Corsair ram everything is just fine.
It's really baffling...

PS - I should mention the bios it came with is F5.

Weird, did you try one DIMM at a time?

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Originally Posted by Krohling

Weird, did you try one DIMM at a time?

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Yes, I tried every combination with all the slots, but it refuses to boot with the crucial ram (which im certain isnt faulty).
I'm going to run over to my parents' house and get the new f7b bios and see if that might help.

Well, the f7d bios didn't help, so I'm back to square one.
Something weird did happen, though. The last time I tried the crucial sticks, I heard a strange metallic squeak as I powered down the machine. It only did it once and I couldn't pinpoint the location, so I dont really know if it has anything to do with it at all.
Anyway, I guess I'm stuck with my slower ram till I figure out what's going on.

Did you try a Clear CMOS procedure?

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Originally Posted by darcon

I only get it when using my Crucial ram. If I use my Corsair ram everything is just fine.
It's really baffling...

PS - I should mention the bios it came with is F5.

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Well if it's only that memory. I'd test it in another system. DDR2 is prone to failure, I've had a few sticks die on me as have friends of mine.

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Originally Posted by SySTaXer

For me anything higher than +0.2

Setting the PCIE frequency to 101 or 110 doesnt solve it either. I have also tried 105/115 and 120.

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You need to up the voltage for your pcie as well. Mine is setup to 110mhz and +.10v.

Good luck

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Originally Posted by dnottis

Well if it's only that memory. I'd test it in another system. DDR2 is prone to failure, I've had a few sticks die on me as have friends of mine.

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The thing is, I really don't have any way to test them, and having them both go bad at the exact same time just seems so unlikely.
Would there be any hassle if I sent them back to crucial and they turned out to be fine?

PS-Ugh. I think my exact modules have been discontinued. I also found out that I payed over twice as much for them december last year than the pc2-8500 kits are now. That really pisses me off.

The droop on mine is just killing me. Wasnt too bad with dual core but with a quad I select 1.35v in bios and under load I get about 1.20v. Idle is about 1.32v. I need a board that has a simple pencil mod.

I need some help here with a DS3R rev1.0. I had an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe before and i had a 24/7 config:

E6400@3.2Ghz (400x8)
2x1 or 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC5300@800Mhz Cl4-4-4-15
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Now i cannot make it work at the same speeds with the gigabyte (CPU and memory are the same), i think i need some help with the timings and some tricky advise too.

Any idea what to do? maybe is the vcore drop?

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

You need to up the voltage for your pcie as well. Mine is setup to 110mhz and +.10v.

Good luck

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Yup did that as well. Mentioned that in my first post here. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

That's what Gigabyte rep thinks... :p:

Indeed P35 chipset inherited a prob from 965 and that's PCI-E 1X prob. I've seen reports (very little though) about same prob happening to some P5K boards (Deluxe and Premium) but these are a minority. In gigabyte m/bs this is the trend.

I've used to own a P35 DS4 for 2 weeks and that problem was the main reason i returned it back. Grabbed a IP35 Pro and have been more than happy. No pci-e 1x prob and that brings us to the Gigabyte rep... ;)


There haven't been any reports with X38 boards reverting to 1X.

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Have you tried overclocking a quad on I35pro? This review wich was released just yesterday believes that the Vdrop/Vdroop is pretty bad when you try overclocking a quad core on that board. My curent board has its own Vdrop/Vdroop but it's not nearly as big as what is shown in that review. In fact I am pretty satisfied with the Vdrop/Vdroop of P35-DQ6 it's pretty slight and has not caused me any troubles wich again makes me think why such a perfect high quality board should be plagued with this annoying pcie issue .Seems like every board has its own achilles heel. :shakes:

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Originally Posted by SySTaXer

Have you tried overclocking a quad on I35pro? This review wich was released just yesterday believes that the Vdrop/Vdroop is pretty bad when you try overclocking a quad core on that board. My curent board has its own Vdrop/Vdroop but it's not nearly as big as what is shown in that review. In fact I am pretty satisfied with the Vdrop/Vdroop of P35-DQ6 it's pretty slight and has not caused me any troubles wich again makes me think why such a perfect high quality board should be plagued with this annoying pcie issue .Seems like every board has its own achilles heel. :shakes:

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Seems like a quad will cause 2x the vdroop a dual core chip does on these boards. Makes sense double the cores, double the droop.

Hi Everyone,

I'm having a really weird issue with my DS3R. I've always been able to run it the cpu (Q6600) @1.4v, with load it's 1.36v.

I went to do some benching today and the system locked up, went to check the voltages in the bios, and now 1.4=1.33 idle, and 1.31 load WTF is going on here? I've changed nothing to the system at all.

1.45=1.38 under load it's 1.33

I don't :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing get it.

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Originally Posted by SySTaXer

Have you tried overclocking a quad on I35pro? This review wich was released just yesterday believes that the Vdrop/Vdroop is pretty bad when you try overclocking a quad core on that board. My curent board has its own Vdrop/Vdroop but it's not nearly as big as what is shown in that review. In fact I am pretty satisfied with the Vdrop/Vdroop of P35-DQ6 it's pretty slight and has not caused me any troubles wich again makes me think why such a perfect high quality board should be plagued with this annoying pcie issue .Seems like every board has its own achilles heel. :shakes:

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No i haven't. I'm running a 6750 @ 3.6ghz 24/7 without any huge vdrop. I've seen the reports about higher vdrop/vdroop on quads but after so many asus boards i'm used to it and believe me, that i prefer it to pci-e 1x prob any day... ;)

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Originally Posted by Flinch

Hi Everyone,

I'm having a really weird issue with my DS3R. I've always been able to run it the cpu (Q6600) @1.4v, with load it's 1.36v.

I went to do some benching today and the system locked up, went to check the voltages in the bios, and now 1.4=1.33 idle, and 1.31 load WTF is going on here? I've changed nothing to the system at all.

1.45=1.38 under load it's 1.33

I don't :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing get it.

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How long do you have your combo running with 1.4v?

Overclock does degrade components. But Core 2 Duo/Quads, DDR2 and actual motherboards seem more sensitive than other hardware at the "old overclocking days".

Or you can simply have a motherboard now failing...

is there any known difference between the memory slots dimm1-3 VS dimm2-4?
in which can I run my memory at higher frequency, or with tighter timings?

I found this, in everest. Do you know what does it mean?
http://wizard.beats.hu/dq6ram.gif

Is the PCI-E x1 problem a common problem with all gigbyte p35 mobos?
Im ready to pull the trigger on a p35-ds4 board but I may skip it if this is a major problem for this series of boards.Recieved a bad IP35-pro recently and im hesitant to get another one for fears of the same problem,So im hoping the DS4 will be a better buy:shrug:

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Originally Posted by WiZARD_hun

is there any known difference between the memory slots dimm1-3 VS dimm2-4?
in which can I run my memory at higher frequency, or with tighter timings?

I found this, in everest. Do you know what does it mean?
http://wizard.beats.hu/dq6ram.gif

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How many dimms are you using?

Where exactly is that information in Everest?

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Originally Posted by Mr.Bones

Is the PCI-E x1 problem a common problem with all gigbyte p35 mobos?
Im ready to pull the trigger on a p35-ds4 board but I may skip it if this is a major problem for this series of boards.Recieved a bad IP35-pro recently and im hesitant to get another one for fears of the same problem,So im hoping the DS4 will be a better buy:shrug:

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I would rather play my chances on IP35 Pro rather on DS4.

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Originally Posted by HitMaker

I need some help here with a DS3R rev1.0. I had an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe before and i had a 24/7 config:

E6400@3.2Ghz (400x8)
2x1 or 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC5300@800Mhz Cl4-4-4-15
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Now i cannot make it work at the same speeds with the gigabyte (CPU and memory are the same), i think i need some help with the timings and some tricky advise too.

Any idea what to do? maybe is the vcore drop?

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what are your bios settings?

Finally it wasn´t a CPU or memo problem, it was my 8800GT which came with some GDDR3 chip broken and i have to underclock gram to 1700 or less to be able to play Crysis... damm i have to return it.

I could finally OC my E6400 over 3.5Ghz with a real 1.48 vore (around 1.525v in bios) on air... (around 62º full load)... the point is it managed to run at 3.2ghz with just 1.33v (1.37v in bios)...

Maybe is the temperature or so, i will try to atatch another fan to my Ultra120Ex.

My ballistix are now at CL4-4-4-15 and the other timings are set to default or auto ;). I have to RMA one of my Ballistix kits for sure

By the way, my system doesn´t post if I try over 460 fsb (I tried 470x7 and 470x6)... any idea? my vdimm is set at 3.2v ... maybe I have to set the timmings to CL5-5-5-15?

I'd say those Ballistix you have are much more capable than just 800MHz.
With 5-5-5-12 or 5-5-5-15 you should get higher frequencies.

How much vdimm you use on them?

Set the RAM divider to the lowest as possible to make sure RAM is not holding you back. You might need to raise FSB and MCH voltages too. Try that.

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Originally Posted by HitMaker

By the way, my system doesn´t post if I try over 460 fsb (I tried 470x7 and 470x6)... any idea? my vdimm is set at 3.2v ... maybe I have to set the timmings to CL5-5-5-15?

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I think your 2nd set is going to die soon too of you use voltages like that.. :eek:

hehe... I wanted to say 2.2v... sorry :( sorry :shrug:

Edit: i think i have a problem with my CPU FSB WALL... i am running memtest86 now with the ram@1050 without a problem, but if a try to set the fsb over 460 it won´t post!... so i am gessuing a FSB Wall, because with my ASUS P5W rev1.04 I had (i know they don´t reach high fsb clocks) i tried a few times to boot at 450Mhz fsb without a problem but not more.

So maybe its a problem from my CPU? no? or maybe the mobo? (i am using bios F6)...

Well, I can't go past 483 with my E6750, so I believe most CPUs do have a "wall". Some really good CPUs will go over 500+ FSB. But I think that's not so common.

I can go 7x500MHz with my E6300 but 510MHz wont boot (tested only mch +0.05 or something and fsb +0.05). I will test more when i get some better cooling in my cpu..

i'm on f5 bios @ 510x8
with f3 i went as high as 575x7
funny how i'm not stable 510+ now

f7d for p35 ds3r is nice, dont have to hit ctrl-f1 to unlock memory timings anymore and it tells you the real voltages instead of safe and unsafe, and it also tells you the processor speed within the oc menu like 3600(9x400):clap: :clap:
every one should use this bios!!:)

edit:pics
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3...0685bl0.th.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7...0686ap0.th.jpg

When is tha bios coming oficial (final release) ¿? next week maybe?

i have no idea, but the beta works fine, so why not use that?

Can anyone confirm if the P35-DQ6 got the same treatment with the new F7b BIOs, as far as "sensor calibration", and voltages viewable in BIOs?

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by HitMaker

hehe... I wanted to say 2.2v... sorry :( sorry :shrug:

Edit: i think i have a problem with my CPU FSB WALL... i am running memtest86 now with the ram@1050 without a problem, but if a try to set the fsb over 460 it won´t post!... so i am gessuing a FSB Wall, because with my ASUS P5W rev1.04 I had (i know they don´t reach high fsb clocks) i tried a few times to boot at 450Mhz fsb without a problem but not more.

So maybe its a problem from my CPU? no? or maybe the mobo? (i am using bios F6)...

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Did you try to increase PCI-E voltage. My board need PCI-E +0.1V to be stable at "only" 400 FSB. I can boot but I need that to be Orthos stable :shrug:

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

Can anyone confirm if the P35-DQ6 got the same treatment with the new F7b BIOs, as far as "sensor calibration", and voltages viewable in BIOs?

Thank you.

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F7b bios for DQ6 did not change anything in PC health status section, ie voltages still read pass/fail, hopefully when F7 final it will.

It did however do a nice job improving the MB tweaker section, looks just like the first pic by hstuehmeyer2000, including timings are visible without hitting CTRL F1.

Regarding voltage calibration, it is more accurate now.

On bios F6, I set voltage at 1.475, reads 1.44 CPUZ, for stable 3.9 overclock.

On bios F7b, I set voltage at 1.45625, reads 1.456 to 1.44 CPUZ, for stable 3.9 overclock.

Just a heads up here...

I tried the F8F bios for my P35-DS4 rev1.0 board & it resulted in freezes at bios screen...

sometimes it would let me get into bios & then would freeze...

I was lucky enough to be able to have it not freeze for long enough to revert back to the F7 bios..

I did all the usual stuff for clearing CMOS etc after bios flash to no avail...

Anyone else have this problem>> Think it affexts the rev1.0/1,1 boards only...

Anyways. Use F8F on your P35-DS4 with care...

Just my 2cents worth here...

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Originally Posted by Minnyboy

Just a heads up here...

I tried the F8F bios for my P35-DS4 rev1.0 board & it resulted in freezes at bios screen...

sometimes it would let me get into bios & then would freeze...

I was lucky enough to be able to have it not freeze for long enough to revert back to the F7 bios..

I did all the usual stuff for clearing CMOS etc after bios flash to no avail...

Anyone else have this problem>> Think it affexts the rev1.0/1,1 boards only...

Anyways. Use F8F on your P35-DS4 with care...

Just my 2cents worth here...

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I had this F8F bios little time in my DS4 rev1.1 and i had no problems with
it.. Ill try it again today and see if it works ok.

Now i have F7 and fully stable with FSB 500. With 510MHz i get infinite boot loop. Nothing comes to screen and it starts all over again. More voltages do not help. Could this be mobo or cpu wall?
:shrug:

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Originally Posted by Xinot

I had this F8F bios little time in my DS4 rev1.1 and i had no problems with
it.. Ill try it again today and see if it works ok.

Now i have F7 and fully stable with FSB 500. With 510MHz i get infinite boot loop. Nothing comes to screen and it starts all over again. More voltages do not help. Could this be mobo or cpu wall?
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every bois is different i maxed out @ 575 now can only boot @ 510 with new bios
you can boot @ 500 n use gigabyte utility to go higher

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Originally Posted by Minnyboy

Just a heads up here...

I tried the F8F bios for my P35-DS4 rev1.0 board & it resulted in freezes at bios screen...

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Tested F8F bios with DS4 rev1.1 and i have no freezing effect.. Maybe its just you or rev1.0.

With F7 i had 500FSB no problemo, but i can not go to windows FSB500 with F8F.. BSOD etc.
:rolleyes:

ps. F8F have advanced memory settings there without Ctrl+F1.

EDIT: with F8F i had to change memory EXTREME to TURBO and everything is ok. 500FSB boot to win ok.
Some memory optimization in F8F maybe?
F7 - 3,5GHz - 1:1 - extreme - SuperPi 8M - 03m06.500s
F8F - 3,5GHz - 1:1 - turbo - SuperPi 8M - 03m05.282s

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Originally Posted by rge

F7b bios for DQ6 did not change anything in PC health status section, ie voltages still read pass/fail, hopefully when F7 final it will.

It did however do a nice job improving the MB tweaker section, looks just like the first pic by hstuehmeyer2000, including timings are visible without hitting CTRL F1.

Regarding voltage calibration, it is more accurate now.

On bios F6, I set voltage at 1.475, reads 1.44 CPUZ, for stable 3.9 overclock.

On bios F7b, I set voltage at 1.45625, reads 1.456 to 1.44 CPUZ, for stable 3.9 overclock.

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I have F7a, and the MB tweaker section was tweaked aswell.

Thank you for the update.
I will flash to these drivers and see how far I can overclock.

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Originally Posted by hstuehmeyer2000

f7d for p35 ds3r is nice, dont have to hit ctrl-f1 to unlock memory timings anymore and it tells you the real voltages instead of safe and unsafe, and it also tells you the processor speed within the oc menu like 3600(9x400):clap: :clap:
every one should use this bios!!:)

edit:pics
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3...0685bl0.th.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7...0686ap0.th.jpg

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QFT. Beta is working great. Good job Giga...


Ply

So Gigabyte actually listened and put real voltages!

But they didn't for the DQ6. :(

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Originally Posted by Plywood99

QFT. Beta is working great. Good job Giga...


Ply

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F7 final is on the gigabyte site now

No love for the DS3R?
; ;

As of now, F7 final only for DS3R
DQ6 = F7b...

F7 for the DS3R has the same problem with volts. Just added support for penryn.

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Originally Posted by Plywood99

QFT. Beta is working great. Good job Giga...


Ply

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you cant be serious.. do you really have your ram running only 840mhz @ 5-6-6- w/ 2.2v
jesus thats gskill for pete's sake man

Hehehe Lestat you madman, PK series of Gskill don't clock that good mate as the more expensive HZ ones... but he could pull off 4-4-4-15 or such at those speeds

Flashed to the F7d bios yesterday from F3. Have been playing with it today. Voltages show as real and mem timings are there without ctrl+f1 as stated, but no improvement on overclock for me. Using the same settings as before. At least it didn't decrease.

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Originally Posted by Delta9b

F7 final is on the gigabyte site now

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Must be a different site to the I'm looking at :p:

F7 BIOS for DS3R

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Originally Posted by necron66

Must be a different site to the I'm looking at :p:

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The *new* bios's are always on Gigabytes *.tw* first, not *.us* :)

Theres F8 final for DS4. CPU Frequency & voltages are there in this bios.

P35-DS4 F8

EDIT: With this bios i have about 10C more temp compaired to F7 ?!?
F7 - 3GHz@~1.31v@idle about 45-50C
F8 - 3GHz@~1.31v@idle about 60 and over C ..

Does this F7 final have the same "features" as F7d? At least to know if it's worth flashing it...

Does anyone know if Gigabyte's site has a support forum? I've been looking around their site and wasn't able to find anything.

They don't have a support forum, but Tweaktown has a Gigabyte rep.

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They don't have a support forum, but Tweaktown has a Gigabyte rep.

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They have a german support forum: http://forum.gigabyte.de

Too bad I know very little to no german at all.
But, if you post in english its possible they'll answer politely (I did once)

I flashed my DS3R/Quad from F5 I think it was to F7d and the cpu volts read a little more than they did and my temps seemed to have dropped about 3 or 4 degrees. On a side note I see overclockersclub.com is giving away two complete custom rigs for Christmas, an AMD rig and a Intel rig...

Anyone troubles getting over 560 fsb ?? can't get it higher on the P35-ds3r.

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Originally Posted by Rol-Co

Anyone troubles getting over 560 fsb ?? can't get it higher on the P35-ds3r.

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not all the boards do 510fsb+
dont keep it @ 550 24/7

Flinch & Krohling, thanks for the info. Too bad I can't read German either.

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F7 BIOS for DS3R

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The *new* bios's are always on Gigabytes *.tw* first, not *.us* :)

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Must just be DS3P hasn't got one yet.

P35C-DS3R new F6 Bios same vdrop problem. It´s time to Giga to fix this already!!!:shrug:

IMO Vdrop can't be fixed by BIOS.

Anything new in the F6 Bios for P35C in comparison to F4? Should I update?

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Originally Posted by vld

Anything new in the F6 Bios for P35C in comparison to F4? Should I update?

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you get more info in bios
overclocking over 525fsb not as good

Hey guys. Building a gaming rig on a budget for a family member. I don't have time to read all 60+ pages to prevent any problems, but I was wondering how the DS3L board is for the money.

NewEgg has it for 89.99$ which is a great deal for a P35 board. Does it have any problems with D9? Specifically some Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800MHz? Any problems with an SATA CD/DVD drive?

It will be running Vista. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by vld

Anything new in the F6 Bios for P35C in comparison to F4? Should I update?

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you get more info in bios
overclocking over 525fsb not as good

need advice guys

my pc2-6400 ballastix 2x1gb will only do @ 2.2V 5-5-5-15 510 MHz and 4-5-5-8 430 MHz 2.0V
@ 2.2V only around 440 MHz 4-4-4?

i have 3 sticks as 4th stick went kaput by me (my fault, you don't need to know)
it still runs dual channel with 3x1GB
currently running 4-5-5-8 430 MHz 2.0V

the first kit now only 1 stick seemed more D9GMH as 4-4-4 2.2V around 500 MHz but the 2nd kit don't clock well so I have to make sure those are stable which sucks for my good stick, it possible 2nd kit don't have d9gmh?

p35-ds3r rev 1.0 and e6750
using F6 Bios

does new f7 bios have voltage readings and help vdroop?

e750 @ 430x8 = 3.44
1.45 vcore in BIOS actual is 1.392 load (default VID 1.35)
+0.1 G(MCH)

24 hours orthos blend/small ftt stable
8 hours memtest 86
and 3 hours OCCT
of course game stable

fsb wall is around 520fsb, anything I can do to get stable 3.6 GHz
I can get around 3.6-3.8 boot into windows but never stable with even high vcore settings.....even with bad oc kit i just higher timings

to get u idea of how far I can actually just boot up into windows here's a valid
(this is before when I just had 2x1gbGB kit that oc'd good, the kit where one stick went kaput and now making 3GB with other bad non seeming d9gmh kit)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=248682


just vcore seetings I can't get cpu stable over 3.44, orthos/prime95 always fail
any help with vcore/ram/other voltages?
can new f7 bios show voltages and help with ram?

voltage readings, yes, pretty accurate IMO. The vdrop still the same. I'm 1.52V in Bios but 1.47 idle - 1.42 load.

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Hey guys. Building a gaming rig on a budget for a family member. I don't have time to read all 60+ pages to prevent any problems, but I was wondering how the DS3L board is for the money.

NewEgg has it for 89.99$ which is a great deal for a P35 board. Does it have any problems with D9? Specifically some Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800MHz? Any problems with an SATA CD/DVD drive?

It will be running Vista. Thanks!

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You shouldn't have any problem ;)

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Originally Posted by BTK

need advice guys

my pc2-6400 ballastix 2x1gb will only do @ 2.2V 5-5-5-15 510 MHz and 4-5-5-8 430 MHz 2.0V
@ 2.2V only around 440 MHz 4-4-4?

i have 3 sticks as 4th stick went kaput by me (my fault, you don't need to know)
it still runs dual channel with 3x1GB
currently running 4-5-5-8 430 MHz 2.0V

the first kit now only 1 stick seemed more D9GMH as 4-4-4 2.2V around 500 MHz but the 2nd kit don't clock well so I have to make sure those are stable which sucks for my good stick, it possible 2nd kit don't have d9gmh?

p35-ds3r rev 1.0 and e6750
using F6 Bios

does new f7 bios have voltage readings and help vdroop?

e750 @ 430x8 = 3.44
1.45 vcore in BIOS actual is 1.392 load (default VID 1.35)
+0.1 G(MCH)

24 hours orthos blend/small ftt stable
8 hours memtest 86
and 3 hours OCCT
of course game stable

fsb wall is around 520fsb, anything I can do to get stable 3.6 GHz
I can get around 3.6-3.8 boot into windows but never stable with even high vcore settings.....even with bad oc kit i just higher timings

to get u idea of how far I can actually just boot up into windows here's a valid
(this is before when I just had 2x1gbGB kit that oc'd good, the kit where one stick went kaput and now making 3GB with other bad non seeming d9gmh kit)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=248682


just vcore seetings I can't get cpu stable over 3.44, orthos/prime95 always fail
any help with vcore/ram/other voltages?
can new f7 bios show voltages and help with ram?

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Crucial and Micron are the same company, so pretty sure all Crucial have D9. ;)

I think your problem is not that the 2nd one is a bad one but rather the first one is a good one. I think my kit is close to the results you have with the 2nd one.

I was trying today some OCZ RAM (PC-8500 Dual Channel SLI Ready black heatspreaders) and I was able to run it with only 1.90V set in BIOS @DDR2-1066.

However I noticed some vdimm fluctuation. Everest is not the most accurate way to monitor this, but since neither BIOS or Easytune show current readings it's the only thing I have right now.

With 2.00V (+0.20V) I saw the readings stay at 2.06V, sometimes going down to 2.05V. Less changes...
With 1.95V (+0.15V) I saw it stay between 1.97~1.98V. More different readings.
With 1.90V (set in BIOS +0.10V) I saw vdimm stay at 1.92V, but fluctuate between 1.90~1.94V and different readings happened even more.

So, it seems the lower the vdimm, the more fluctuation.
Well, I don't think this fluctiation is good for RAM. If someone could test this...

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I was trying today some OCZ RAM (PC-8500 Dual Channel SLI Ready black heatspreaders) and I was able to run it with only 1.90V set in BIOS @DDR2-1066.

However I noticed some vdimm fluctuation. Everest is not the most accurate way to monitor this, but since neither BIOS or Easytune show current readings it's the only thing I have right now.

With 2.00V (+0.20V) I saw the readings stay at 2.06V, sometimes going down to 2.05V. Less changes...
With 1.95V (+0.15V) I saw it stay between 1.97~1.98V. More different readings.
With 1.90V (set in BIOS +0.10V) I saw vdimm stay at 1.92V, but fluctuate between 1.90~1.94V and different readings happened even more.

So, it seems the lower the vdimm, the more fluctuation.
Well, I don't think this fluctiation is good for RAM. If someone could test this...

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everest verry accurate
i too get fluctuation sometimes by -0.01 on load

New Bios for gigabyte boards: http://www.station-drivers.com/index.html

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

everest verry accurate
i too get fluctuation sometimes by -0.01 on load

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This fluctuation I'm referring to was during normal use of the computer, no heavy bench/burn in was running. I left Everest logging the readings for some time, then I checked the Everest logs when I was using 1.90V (+.10), 1.95V (+.15)and 2.00V (+.20). With 1.90V fluctuation is more common. With 2.00 it's less. I have not counted how many readings of each or %, but just by looking I can say that...

Latest BIOS for Gigabyte boards usually show up here first:
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/board...ds&act=Anzeige

its weird in the past this board would boot @ 575fsb but now it wont boot past 530 is it the board that is degrading??
i could do 4.1 with the cpu now it wont do 4.04
i dont think its the cpu cause i was on x38 n it did 4.3 no problem never went above 1.64v
it just hangs before windows

Check if it's not your RAM that is degrading.
By far DDR2 is the most sensitive component in any Intel combo.
If your temperatures and volts are ok, I believe the mobo is alright.

But you have to see that 575MHz FSB is not a normal thing you see everyday :D
Is that 24/7?

Some A64 were sensitive too. With time the OC degraded. I don't know about Core 2 Duos.

does the DS3P still do the PCIE 16X changing into PCIE 1X?

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Originally Posted by Krohling

Check if it's not your RAM that is degrading.
By far DDR2 is the most sensitive component in any Intel combo.
If your temperatures and volts are ok, I believe the mobo is alright.

But you have to see that 575MHz FSB is not a normal thing you see everyday :D
Is that 24/7?

Some A64 were sensitive too. With time the OC degraded. I don't know about Core 2 Duos.

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funny my ram is stronger they runnin 1236mhz with 2.24v my old set that died needed 2.35v for 1224mhz
i had boxed the board 3 weeks while i had x38-dq6 it was ok before i boxed it
right after reinstalling it it would not boot @ old setting it was on "535fsb"
so i lowered it to 515

Can anyone tell me if there is a Revision 2.0 of the P35-DQ6 in production?

I POSTED P35C-DS3R VDROOP/VCORE PICS HERE->

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5c-ds3r+vdroop

only way to fix the droop!

i figured it out i had to have mcmh @+3
weird thing when i set cpu to 1.6 it wont boot 1.59 is ok
did some playin around got this
i'll try to go higher as soon as i mod the board i need 1.6 real for cpu:)

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Can anyone tell me if there is a Revision 2.0 of the P35-DQ6 in production?

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its funny i was thinkin of gettin that board n dont see many the few places that got them want 275$ witch is ridiculous considering x38 pricing

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need advice guys

my pc2-6400 ballastix 2x1gb will only do @ 2.2V 5-5-5-15 510 MHz and 4-5-5-8 430 MHz 2.0V
@ 2.2V only around 440 MHz 4-4-4?

i have 3 sticks as 4th stick went kaput by me (my fault, you don't need to know)
it still runs dual channel with 3x1GB
currently running 4-5-5-8 430 MHz 2.0V

the first kit now only 1 stick seemed more D9GMH as 4-4-4 2.2V around 500 MHz but the 2nd kit don't clock well so I have to make sure those are stable which sucks for my good stick, it possible 2nd kit don't have d9gmh?

p35-ds3r rev 1.0 and e6750
using F6 Bios

does new f7 bios have voltage readings and help vdroop?

e750 @ 430x8 = 3.44
1.45 vcore in BIOS actual is 1.392 load (default VID 1.35)
+0.1 G(MCH)

24 hours orthos blend/small ftt stable
8 hours memtest 86
and 3 hours OCCT
of course game stable

fsb wall is around 520fsb, anything I can do to get stable 3.6 GHz
I can get around 3.6-3.8 boot into windows but never stable with even high vcore settings.....even with bad oc kit i just higher timings

to get u idea of how far I can actually just boot up into windows here's a valid
(this is before when I just had 2x1gbGB kit that oc'd good, the kit where one stick went kaput and now making 3GB with other bad non seeming d9gmh kit)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=248682


just vcore seetings I can't get cpu stable over 3.44, orthos/prime95 always fail
any help with vcore/ram/other voltages?
can new f7 bios show voltages and help with ram

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in regards to me anything i can do for 3.6?

You might need to raise MCH and FSB voltages.

Try to overclock with all voltage settings on AUTO.
It's weird, but with manual settings before I didn't manage to find out what was holding me at 477MHZ FSB. When I set to AUTO it managed to boot with 485MHz FSB with "ease".

I don't know how much E6750 need for 3.6
My E6750 is stable with default VID (1.350) until 3360MHz. For 3400MHz I need to raise vcore to the next setting.

Hello guys. I have a quick question, I hope (I read the frist 10 or so pages and realized its 64 pages. stupid me). I just got a P35C-DS3R and a Q6600 GO. What is the best bios to use for the Q and a good overclock (I'm on phase)? Anything else I should know or some quick tips (you can pm them to me if they have been said repeatedly, sorry)? Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Shalamay

Hello guys. I have a quick question, I hope (I read the frist 10 or so pages and realized its 64 pages. stupid me). I just got a P35C-DS3R and a Q6600 GO. What is the best bios to use for the Q and a good overclock (I'm on phase)? Anything else I should know or some quick tips (you can pm them to me if they have been said repeatedly, sorry)? Thank you.

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f6 is good
you might wanna do vdroop mod if you gonna overclock verry high