I notice you're running an old 8mb Raptor 36GBer. I'm pretty sure the older ones didn't support NCQ. Only the ADFD's and beyond.
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I notice you're running an old 8mb Raptor 36GBer. I'm pretty sure the older ones didn't support NCQ. Only the ADFD's and beyond.
thats right, the old raptors doesnt have NCQ , mine hasnt too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
Can u make us clear, ''what u hotswap''? Which sata-slot are u using to hotswap?
The ones on the intel controller or Jmicron?
If u are using the extern sata slot (>>>> jmicron), then u have to set it to ahci ( or raid, some have trouble with ahci) in bios.
Not according to WD,
http://www.westerndigital.com/en/pro...40&language=en
Cuz I clearly remember seeing this feature checked on my previous rig when I opened device manager. Besides, the other drive thats 100% confirmed NCQ also isn't registering as NCQ and removal options are grayed out(they'r grayed out on all my drives for that matter). Normally the intel matrix storage manager should give you the option to disconnect drive I think, but when I rghtclick on a drive it says "NO ACTIONS AVAILABLE", thus implying other actions are available for other people. Maybe someone with a sata drive connected to the DATA connectors or any other SATA connector besides SATA1 can try and open that Intel Matrix Storage manager and see what happens when you rightclick on a disk in that tool.
Cheerz!!
And to answer you kaku,
Like I said, I am only using the SATA ports on the INTEL controller, my mobile rack is attached to slot 4, so thats what I use to hotswap, but slot 3 is also a black SATA port and no windows files are on this SATA drive so this should be hotswappable as well. Everything should be hotswappable on the Intel controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
YOu re raptor does not have NCQ (read that site). You have the 8 mb version, the newer (16mb) has ncq.
- it says also ''no actions available'' when i click to a disk
- the red slots are meant for ''boot'' >> windows
- the black slots for data, hotswap i quess.
Have you tried the external sata ? First set to AHCI (or raid) in bios, i think u also have to install jmicron raid tool.
I'm just gonna reinstall my entire windows and this time I am gonna put a floppy drive in so I am absolutely sure the driver gets picked up. If it doesn't work tomorrow then the board is going RMA:(:(
BTW, I did that fix for that sound, I uninstalled that XP hotfix and then I installed the newest audio drivers from Asus and bam the crackling was back, what wasn't back however was my slow random access times. So this hotfix only screws up disk access times for me, but it sure as hell doesn't fix the sound, the harder you turn the volume the more crackling:(
hey i just got my board up and running(see sig) and the only problem that i have with it is i can't boot it with the 7900GT in the top 16x pci express slot:( any ideas?. also i get the double restart crap too:(. BTW i'm using the 0711 bios.
change your bios setting to "IDE" from "ACHI"...ACHI is really NCQ.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
i just sold my crappy mobo and i'm thinking about getting the amazing Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP.i just checked asus website and it seems my ram isn't listed as compartible,dunno if to sell that too.i'm gonna be keepinf the rest of my hardware. i dont know if any new boards are coming out soon or just go ahead and buy that board.any suggestions plz
ps:i'm going to be joining you guys here now ...gonna be family soon :)
WELCOME!:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by slykid
This is interesting. I am also having problems with the sound drivers in regards to HDD performance. I noticed that without soundmax installed, cruising around windows explorer 'through directories' was lightning fast with no pauses. After installing soundmax, I experience tiny 'pauses' while clicking through folders. This is probably due to the effect on my random access times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
I'm going to try messing with this hotfix to see if I can 'fix' my explorer pauses.
I need some help getting a higher OC on my P5b Deluxe wifi...
At 506 x 7 I am 9hrs+ Orthos Stable with 1.525v on the CPU.
At 507 x 7 I cannot pass 1 hour of Orthos at any Vcore...
I have the BIOS settings set to the settings in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=115217
I did not change PCIe Freq. and I upped ICH voltage to 1.25
If anyone has any ideas, please let me know... I'd really like to hit 515 x 7 stable.
Thanks!
Seufar
How is your cpu temp ?
Hi Guys,
I have been dealing with those issues for a while now, and share most of your frustration.
I have a few solutions and mainly clarification to add.
First AUDIO is screwed up bigly the result of it are as follows:
1. Crackling sound
2. Slow Winxp Boot time
3. Slow browsing through explorer folder (basically slow HDD performance)
4. No sound form 2 rear speakers
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regarding the Windows hot fix, if my memory serves me right it only brought more harm then good i advice NOT using it as it is causing some of the slow explorer browsing to be slow. (u can find that issue in other forums)
* ok here is the thing, its enough to DISABLE the HD AUDIO in BIOS to regain QUICK window BOOT time ! (to me it feels like a conflict issues and mainly PCI Latency issue) and to regain f Fast explorer browsing experience.
Basically looks like shared resources issue or misbehavior of Driver/ Pci latency issue on the part of the AUDIO drivers.
I'm on the latest 4570 Audio Drivers from Asus (I have to say i don there a crackling sound.
Regarding SLOW AHCI DETECTION
I had that too. there is a solution!
The solution lies in an updated INTEL RAID DRIVERS! Yes, I thought it was a BIOS issues and it isn't it's a drivers issue. I VERIFIED that for sure, looks like old drivers after reboot were writing something wrong to the drive that caused it to hang for about 5-8 seconds at post time.
here are the drivers for INTEL trust me u will be surprised but no more hangs on Rebooting(regardig detecting AHCI drives).
http://www.station-drivers.com/telec...0.2002-all.exe
* regarding the Rear speakers not working , just go into soundmax (lower left corner blue icon) and choose preferences' -> DTS connect TAB, and uncheck everything. this will bring you back your sound to rear speaker, it aint a solution completely cause u loose the 5.1 DTS
Basically Audio drivers seem to be at major fault here imo.
* And I think I'm booting Winxp after about 6 runs of the blue bar at the WINXP boot screen (when AUDIO is DISABLED in bios) its about 11-12 runs of the blue bar when Audio is enabled. (If u want to see how fast u can boot without audio, then just disable it in bios, boot, and run BOOTVIS optimization, then reboot and see how fast)
Let me know how u guys make any progress.
I'm very frustrated with the slow HDD performance and general reaction (especially while loading programs and browsing in Explorer)
We need a Major Audio Driver fix I think to have this board run smooth - most of the issues seems to come from the sound H/W / S/W.
hey guys is my problem a known issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by serious1
Depending on my room temp, my cpu load temps are between 52-60*C using TAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by -TR-ZİVRO-TR-
No thoughts by anybody on this?
Quote:
Originally Posted by happyboy6
What do you mean man, just take IDE for my SATA drives, remember I tried that and I didn't have hotswap availability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Thnx man, you'r a legend, I will give all these a try, I finally installed my windows now in full AHCI and did it with driver disk, my bootup with HD audio enabled in bios and the drivers for them still left uninistalled my windows blue bars now go 5,5 times across before it boots into windows. I haven't run bootvis yet and your other suggestions but if you say that there will be an improvement then I will be looking at 3x across maximum afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
Will report back,
Cappie
PS : yes frustrated is the correct word, drivers that give people so much pain should not have been shipped, its clear that these are no mere minor issues but major pain in the arse issues:)
UPDATE:
The file from c_fun(intel msm 6.2.0.2002-all.exe)is confirmed working here, now AHCI ports are detected instantaneously at boot, with a good defragtool called perfectdisk 7 I first defragged the drive(smartplacement), then I ran bootvis and now I can get into windows in under 5 bars across, 4,5 to be exact. When you run bootvis its very clear that this number 4,5 can be even reduced further cuz after the 3rd bootvis trace, right after you do "OPTIMIZE SYSTEM" windows will boot into desktop in 0,5 bars across. Yep you read that correctly, the bar will only go halfway across and boot into windows. The problem is, this 0,5 bars across only happens once, and its after you click "OPTIMIZE SYSTEM", windows will then reboot and its here that windows gets loaded SUPERSUPERFAST, if it then finishes the optimization it gets reset to 4,5 bars across. I tested this twice and it was same exact routine the second time, I even tested a third time and I didn't let the optimization finish after getting into windows for that last step and just cancelled the bootvis_sleep process, then I checked to see if the 0,5 bar would stick but helas, it was gone egain, windows booted even slower now, 7 bars across. So I let optimization finish on the next runonceex instance and now the bars were 4,5 again. Pretty good but still not opteron good(cuz there I had 2,5x across).
I haven't disabled HD audio in bios yet cuz I was still too busy with my reinstall. What else, aaaah yes, first of all my congratulations are in order, c_fun if I was head of Asus then I would immediately give you a position as manager of customer support, you solved a big issue here for lots of folks. I have no idea why Asus isn't bringing out that driver, but I guess its cuz it ain't WHQL certified yet, where did you get it from???
One thing thats still bugging me though is this SATA hotswap, I still can't safely disconnect my SATA mobile racks, I can see a green arrow pop up yes, but only when I plug in USB devices, so I know the green arrow exists but just not for my SATA disks. Once I disconnect my USB drive that green arrow dissapears, on my DFI lanparty SLI-d that green arrow just stayed there all the time cuz I was running same setup of disks back then.
So on to fixing these next problems, audio crackling and Hot Swap and I am one happy man, already pretty glad there's progress.
Cheerz all who helped so far(kaku, brahm, ...)
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Originally Posted by Psyire
i wonder if bios problem with drivers, i disabled hdaudio and added x-plosion sound card and other weird things happened, but all told things are running well, i heard ahci does not perform well period but no data to back that claim,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
" check your manual, maybe only e-sata hot swappable, i do not think any of the six connectors for the sb are hotswappable "
windows xp home sp2
how can i get 4gb's of ram showing more than 2.43gb's in windows..........
i've tried /3gb /pae/memset=3000 switches, mem remap enabled gets me 4096 in bios and 2gb's in windows, disable mem remap 2496 in bios and 2.43 in windows,
any ideas?
desperate in toronto or was that seattle or was ...............................
Guys I am having a problem. Check sig for rig.
I set 400 fsb and when it boots up it automatically sets the multipler to 6 and the fsb to 321. Check screenshot. I have voltages set to automatic so that is why the voltage seems so high but no matter what I do I can't get the multiplier to stay at 8 even if i force these settings in the bios it still boots up to this. Any ideas? Please help. How the heck are you guys OCing this board? This is the most recent bios as well.
It seems to be adjusting my multiplier while im in windows. Im watchign in cpuz and it fluctuates from 6 to 8...
ACtually its even worse than I thought. even at stock settings it seems to be setting my e6400 to a 6 x multiplier. Check out the screenshot. What the hell. In the bios I have the multipler unlock function set to disabled so it shoudlb e using the default of 8 but its not. Its even undervolting my cpu...
What does that have to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by dab420
@HeadShotWI : Do you have the Intel Speedstep function enable in bios?Do you have saving energy profile set to Laptop in Windows Control Panel?Try turning them off.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadShotWI
easy tiger, it was in response to another post, in another thread. My post got moved when the thread was merged and it shuffled the order a bit. :stick:
swiftex: winxp sp2 does not support 4GB of ram. You might have more luck with a 64 bit OS like the ones mentioned above..
Hi guys,
I really need your help here.
I'm UNABLE to set the RAM setting at MANUAL at the rated timing (5-5-5-12)
basically i fail memtest.
If the settings are set to SPD i'm passing memtest. when continuing to boot into winXP , CPUZ shows 5-5-5-18.
I'm NOT overclocking in any way, everythign is on AUTO.
All the Voltage settings i have are set to AUTO, except the RAM which i set to 1.9V which is the Rated voltage for this pair per corsair datasheet.
i tried raising volatege up to 2.1v and didnt help. also tried disabling Legacy USB (as was suggested somewhere).
even trying to set 5-5-5-18 manually fials memtset at some point.
I'm quite desprate on this issue, i replaced my pair and still same thing.:confused:
If someone have this Corsair pair and was able top PASS memtest after he switched to manual settings, PLEASE post ALL the BIOS SETUP, or just LOAD the BIOS file here so i can try it myself
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My H/W is as follows:
M.B : P5B Deluxe (non wifi)Bios 0711 and now 0804.
RAM : Twin2X2048-6400 (XMS6405v5.1 modules) (this is the CL5 modules)
Video : Gigabyte 6600GT
HDD: Seagate 250GB 16 Mb cache SATA-II
PSU : JSP-tech EZ-COOL 420W
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@happyboy6
I think u have the same issue with tapakah, u can see it in previous pages, havent found any solution i guess, maybe u better try putting your cpu on other mobo.
We use to call it................FSB WALL
2c_fun:
Have u overclocked the cpu/ or at what freq. is the memory running?
Try this:
Set manually memory freq to 533 (=266= 1:1), set memory voltage at 1.8 (u d better set to 2.0V cuz of voltage drop), and let spd at auto.
C-fun - I posted a new topic in this thread but it got moved to the Info and Support forum and buried.
It seems to be a common issue with that RAM (I have the same) - set to SPD and live with the fact that you are at 5-5-5-18 instead of 5-5-5-12.
Some one discovered (I don't know how!) that if you use the following manual setting it is also stable:
5-5-5-12-6-42-3-11-5-14
Disable static read control.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=121770
Please post in the Corsair forums and send an email to Asus, maybe they can get this fixed...
The one person says it is 2 hours memtest stable now with those settings, I will try and test it overnight...
The funny thing is it's really not that off - I am Orthos stable at 3.2ghz, no problem for one hour with the "bad" settings.
anybody here who has PCIE 1X issue at 400FSB, but not at 401FSB ?
isn't there a strap thing past 400 fsb in bios ?
there is, so im wondering if that affects the pcie lane speed. seems when the NB is on higher stress it starts bananingQuote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
I have pci 1x at 400 and at 450 so dont think it is a strap thing
Well I am 1000% sure that all my drives are hot swappable cuz every single drive I have could be hot swapped on my older board, would be very odd that a newer board would leave out this feature. BTW I found a way to disconnect my drives now, I can do it via Device Manager and just click UNINSTALL on the detected harddrive and it will disconnect the drive, but thats not really using the hotswap green arrow feature like its supposed to. Also I installed audio drivers for the time being cuz I don't have a soundcard yet, now my windows loading bar goes 12,5x across:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftex
I was wondering, can someone here tell me which soundcard gives the least amount of trouble and issues with this board, then I can buy this card and be done with this issue. I heard X-fi had major issues with this board, is that correct?? If not a X-fi then what other card runs without issues?
Thnx
PS : To answer Heikis, I too had this PCI lane resetting to x1 but I have this fully fixed now, it never ever goes to 1x anymore. What I did was update my bios to 0711 and manually set voltages in JUMPERLESS CONFIGURATION to,
Manual
400
DDR-800Mhz
Auto
33,33Mhz
D
2,25v
1,3625v
1,4v
1,45v
1,50v
1,057v
I think it has to do something with something not getting enough voltage, cuz no matter what I set my FSB to it won't switch back to 1x anymore:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dab420
hehehe, you used to be able to go to Esso and put a tiger in your tank....
all kidding aside, I understand 32bit mem limitation but should show at least 3gb,
wonder if there is something I missed. my old p4p800e with xp acknowledged 3gb with 4 in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by boombastic
Yes I have cpu speed set manually to 266. Auto voltages accept for memory which is 2.1. I can disable the multiplier setting or set it manually to 8. I have speedstep disabled. I have all NOS AI oc stuff turned off. I even uninstalled AI Tunner or whatever that asus crack was. No matter what I do it seems to be adjusting me multiplier depending on my load. This is ridiculous. Someone please help? There are no windows power profiles configured or turned on.
ok, this is actually my 2nd p5b board as i sold my first, didn't have any issues with it, but this one when I try to install windows xp, it loads up, I get to the point of installing raid drivers from my usb floppy and it just hangs, I also tried loading the drivers from the cd onto the floppy, same issue, just hangs, but if I connect it to any of my other systems, works fine and loads the drivers, any thoughts or suggestions? I've tried 2 diff disks, same issue, is my usb controller screwed up? no overclocking, changed usb to legacy support.
I have 4gig of ram. If I set the extended address in bios it registers it as 2gig, if I have it off (default if not mistaken) I get 3gig. You got 2 video cards? That might explain for another 512megs going missing.
As well I get 3gig in windows without any switches as well.
OK, two questions:
1. Using 0804 BIOS, why do my AHCI SATA HDDs still power cycle during "soft" Windows restarts? I thought this was fixed on the P5B D.
2. Using the RightMark CPU Clock utility, I'm trying to get C1E/Speedtech to drop the multi and voltage during idle. It only drops the multi - not the voltage, so my temp stays hot. This isn't an issue on my P5W DH.
Please help me. :)
sluzbenik
Thanks allot , this solved my problem, how did u get those extra settings, this is very intresting and i would like to get to the bottom of this.
Btw i didnt need to disable Static control read - its just set to AUTO (dont know maybe default AUTO=Disabled ?)
Use memset to see what SPD assigns then input manually and adjust if needed...Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
I'm having super problems in my other thread regarding my P5B Deluxe, if anyone could help I'd appreciate it:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=121025
Are you saying I can use memset to set values and then test it with 16M or 32M superpi runs if it is stable? Then if the settings from memset are fully stable I just manually enter them in bios and it will run perfectly fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Here are my settings,
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/3203/shotjl3.th.jpg
the memory used is the one from my sig, running at 2,25v since thats as closest as I can set to default spec in bios(asus P5b bios doesn't have 2,20v). So what could I improve upon, what is safe maximum voltage for these chips, safe enough that it will not go bad even after a year or two?
I only use memset to determine what is assigned in auto then input manually. But yes, you can use it to change values in Windows and test...can't say it will run "perfectly fine" though :D As far as voltage, that's just somethig you have to try. Your memory will let you know if it doesn't like too little or too much. Longevity is another matter...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
1. That problem isn't BIOS related. If you install the betaversion of Intel Matrix Storage Manager, your harddrives will no longer shut themselves off every time you reboot. They can be found here: http://www.station-drivers.com/telec...0.2002-all.exe
WOOT!!! You're the friggin' man bro!! I just installed this and it fixed that annoying crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by RAdoxx
No more HDD power cycles! Will this also fix the problem on my P5W DH?
Shweet.
Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
Yup - works on the P5W DH. Sorry if this is old news - I don't know how I missed this.
Ok so 2,35v would still be safe for memory rated at 2,2v? Maybe I can use that and see if I can get it to run at 3-3-3-8:) Will check, any ballistix users here, lemme know what voltage you guys are running, still learning all about c2d:)
Just start by running memtest from a floppy or CD and test test test :D I do believe before I shipped my board off to a fellow OC'er I tried some different voltages with my Corsair ram and it errored like crazy when I went up to a certain point (might have been 2.4ish) so again, test test test...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
EDIT: We are all (most of us) still learning C2D ;)
Anyone hear anything about a BIOS to fix the hard boot? I heard the P5W has a beta out that fixes it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubiconx3
What do you mean fix the hard boot?
When you overclock it shuts off. Instead of a "soft" reboot. i have phase and it screws it all up
0711 has it fixed. but the latest official is 0804.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubiconx3
though after changing voltages/FSB/mem ratio it hard boots. but once you have it set it doesnt.
Thats the thing. I cant set anything because the hard reboot makes my vapo shut down and i lose the settings :(.
is it just me or does the newest bios have restarting issues. i can't reboot from windows. nothing comes up on the screen after. i have to shutdown and push the button to restart. works fine through that method.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4...lstablegn1.jpg
This is my 7/24 settings
1.5v cpu
2.3v ram // 425MHZ, 4-4-4-10
Do you think Ram voltaj is high or safe ?
yep, running 2 7950's so that probably explains things, mem for each video card is 512k, so does that mean windows takes 512k back as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
thanks for the response.
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14822
Imho, your setting is too much voltage on cpu, bro. And for the ram voltage, I'm sure your setting is fine. Have you tried tighest timing?Quote:
Originally Posted by -TR-ZİVRO-TR-
Here is my daily use:
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...SB496_4438.png
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...__496_4338.png
Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=135461
ok guys as I have written before when u disable the drivers or the hardware itself via bios ) regarding the HD Audio) , you regain fast boot time and fast browsing in EXPLORER (I'm not referring to IE).Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftex
Now here is my analysis,
Obviously the Audio drivers are at fault here, and this seems like they are competing for the bus with the Hard disk controller, this is either a PCI Latency issue, were one of those takes the BUS and not releasing it quickly enough for other to use it. or a PnP (Plug and Play ) issue where resources are shares in a manner that creates conflicts.
To demonstrate this is a conflict between the 2 (HDD controller and Audio)
Just go through explorer to where u have MANY levels of directories.
Place your mouse on the main root directory and start clicking like mad ...going through the whole hierarchy of subfolders.
You will notice u are getting the Sand clock icon instead of the arrow at time and things aren't going blazing fast but with some hangs (u can go all the way back with the back arrow on explorer and feel the same)
Now notice you here a "Click" each time u double click a folder? This is part of the windows sound system.
If you go into control panel and look for SOUND and AUDIO->SOUNDS tab look for 'Start navigating" at the bottom then choose NONE for its action instead of the Wav file for it.
And go through the process above you will have lightning fast browsing experience. (Notice you WON'T hear any "click" no more.
This illustrates that when accessing the drive and Audio simultaneously we have a "competition" like even here, for either shares resources or PCI time.
i know this may be a bit too in depth but if someone at Analog devices or Asus happens to read this, it may point them in the right direction to fix the Audio drivers, or bios in for PnP with this Audio device.
If anyone else has anything to add I will be happy to hear more.
Thanks for that tip C_fun, that does speed up folder browsing. PoS onboard sound.
BTW, I sent an email to Asus and Corsair re: the Twin2x2048-6400 ram timings. Asus said they would fix it if we can give them all the correct timings. We still don't know where that guy came up with them but I tested them overnight, and I am 8 hours Memtest stable. Hopefully they can fix this, I bet a lot of people are running unstable and don't know it, I was for a while there!
Someone here who can help me achieve higher FSB? My cpu is really good, and is doing 4GHz on water. But it looks like my mb stops at ~505 FSB. I have tried to raise both the FSB and NB voltage to maximum. I have also tried 0711 and 0614 bios. Anything else I have to try? Testet my ram with 1:2 divider, and it ran Superpi 1m easily at 560MHz!
Anyone?
c_fun,Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
thanks for the post man - I never made the connection between the onboard audio and Windows Explorer - that really is annoying as hell.
Does this have anything to do with why the P5B takes twice as many splash bars to load at boot compared to my P5W (same exact compnents other than onboard sound?)
Basically its a result of a missbehaving Driver of the Audio H/W and/or PnP settings it has in it. (to answer your question in short then YES)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
if you will remove the H/W driver and put the SoundMax Audio section at "Disabled" status, you will once again regain fast boot time.
the Audio driver seem to be at fault, either it conflicts/ or share resorces it shouldnt imo, or have some pci latency settings that cause other h/w to operate slowly since its not behaving according to "normal" protocol.
The P5B Deluxe will be a SUPERB board one the drivers mature.
I got an answer from the guy who gave the timing settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
he basically used memset program to READ the EXTRA registers when things where working fine in SPD.
then he just put them out manually , seems the default manual setting for the extra settings arent ok with our RAM modules.
so basically its taken from the SPD settings.
please someone tell me what to do with my pci-e 1x problem. It happens at 420FSB to 450FSB, but not at for example 356FSB.. Hmm I have a X1900GT card and have tried pci-e freq up to 110mhz and SB volt til 1,7
I have a serious, obnoxious, problem with cold boot on this board. I usually shut down my machine at night and turn it on next day which is around 16hrs after shut down( work in the morning). Everytime, it gives me a 1-long-beep and 3-short-beeps. I searched AMI beep code and it seems to relate to memory first 64kb or something like that.
With that in mind, my machine is 8hrs stable in Orthos so I don't know what's wrong, only happen at cold boot(where everything is cold). If I shut off and turn it back up in an hour, I'm ok.
Can anyone help me diagnose this weirdness? My settings are in my signature below. Thanks.
ummm, i can't comment on the interaction between the sound and harddisk driver, but i don't think this test is quite valid, unless you verify that the speed goes to slow again after you reenabled the sound driver: ieQuote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
1. with sound driver enable => hdd slow
2. disable sound driver => hdd fast
3. renabled sound driver => hdd slow again.
i think you just simply cached all the directory metadata in memory, which is why the second (and subsequent) time will be fast.
Mine stops at 506 even with voltage everywhere. I am setting it at 500 for 24/7. I hate to be motherboard limited, but oh well...Quote:
Originally Posted by ManagHead
Just read my posts a couple pages back and you'll see he's absolutely spot on with his remarks about audio and slow boot. I knew all about driver problems of P5B but couldn't exactly pinpoint it, so I installed one driver at a time and I left audio drivers for last, all the while I could boot into windows with 4,5 splash bars, no matter how many times I rebooted. Then I came upon c_funs post, wanted to test his theory, installed those audio drivers and next reboot and boots to come splash bars now take about 12,5 to 15,5:mad: :mad: Note that when I had the 4,5 splash bars I even had HD audio option enabled in bios, so its not the setting in bios that causes this, its the actual drivers themselves, this is SIMPLE and TESTED FACT. I installed windows enough times by now on this board to know all of its quirks inside and out. Asus needs to get their act together and fix this crap, fix the hotswap and fix those pathetic audio drivers.
May I ask, what is the latest and/or best BIOS for the p5bdlx currently out there? I'm setting up a system for a friend next weekend, and I'm already starting to gather the required drivers and firmwares.
Big Sturl, you can get the latest bios (0804) here:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...uxe%20Wifi-AP/
i'm still using 0711, haven't had a chance to try the latest yet
[edit] anyone tried older soundmax drivers?
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/audio/ad1988/
Okay, tnx. I knew I could find the BIOS there and all, but I was wondering if there might be modded and hopefully "better" BIOS out there. But if the 0804 is the best, then that's fine with me.
I have tried this one,
2K_XP_v5.10.01.4570_DTS
and the one from the asus cd which is this one I think,
SoundMAX ADI1988 Audio Driver
both have same issue!
I've got the same thing with mine. It doesn't happen that often when I turn on the computer for the first time, but almost every time if I just reboot. I don't know what causes it, I'm just trying to learn to live with it...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizion
I think you just simply cached all the directory metadata in memory, which is why the second (and subsequent) time will be fast.[/QUOTE]
No they aren't cached, and this can be reproduced at any time, either with disabling the audio device / removing its driver, or disabling it in bios all together, all of these gets the same result = NORMAL fast computer and drive access.
Just try the simple test I gave in browsing folders, (u can later give the "start Navigating" its sound properties back and see the degradation in performance while browsing folders
The example above is just to illustrate the problem where the system tries to access both services simultaneously (e.g drive access, and the Audio "Click")
just try the simple test I gave in browsing folders, (u can later give the "start Navigating" its sound properties back and see the degradation in performance while browsing folders.
The example above is just to illustrate the problem where the system tries to access both services simultaneously (e,.g drive access, and the Audio "Click")
What I'm trying to do here is for more people to gather around this issues and pressure ASUS to get us a USABLE !!!! Driver, they are responsible for that although ADI is the one that writes the drivers, they will push them if we push Asus.
guys trust me, you have no idea how your computing experience will change once the audio drivers are fixed, this IMPACT the WHOLE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE!!!
Why not send a mass email to Asus, everyone just use their own words, and everyone mail to the same emailaddress ofcourse. I already sent my mail just now. Cuz I dunno if I wanna spend money on a PCI audio card, its not something I should have to buy if this damn crap worked in the first place.
I'd be willing to write a complaint because the whole drive performance thing is really frustrating.
Where do I send the email?
Just switched from a ds3 which was nothing but problems to a p5b delux and so far here are my results.
FSB 399 x 8(I heard the boot strap hurts performance at 400 or more)
Memory 1:1 4,4,4,12 @ 798mhz
vdimm 2.1
vcore 1.425(in bios), 1.38(in windows)
fsb term 1.45
nb 1.45
sb 1.6
Temps are about 41C idle, 58C dual orthos load
I've done a bunch of gaming for hours with no issues and 1 hour orthos stable
Now where should I go from here? Should I stick with 399 or move to 400 or even higher? I don't think I can go much higher than 400 considering my load temps. Does 400fsb actually hurt performance because of the strap? Do my voltages seem on spot(anything excessive?)
Oh and I am having one nagging problem. I can restart my system without a problem but if I completely power down(like overnight or for a few hours) and then boot from a cold boot I have to hard reset a few times as windows doesn't load. After bios post it just goes to black screen and my usb devices lights turn off. 2 or so hard resets and it finally will boot all the way up and behave stable. I have no issues doing resets just cold power ups. Anyone seen this?
I have the most recent 0804 bios. See sig for rig.
i wrote two letters to the support about the 1x pci-e problem, here are the answers:
Dear sir/madam,
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is Penny. It's my pleasure to help you with your problem.
Please download the latest Beta BIOS V0801 in the attachment to update and have a try.
Dear sir/madam,
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is Penny. It's my pleasure to help you with your problem.
I will feed back the problem to our interrelated department. If there is any further information we will release on ASUS website immediately. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused to you.
so they say that we should wait... funny, 0804 is the third bios since i have the board, and nothing happens. i getting used to switch to standard settings if i want to play..
so 0801 beta dont work??? 0804 does netiher.. Damn you asus...
did u guys notice the poor quality of sound from that soundcard, for me it's unuseble because it crackles on the earphones jack, especially noticable when u have on low wolume, and also when u minimize and maximize folders and such u can actually hear buzzing of sort between the minimizing process. thank goodness i allready had a soundcard in my ex computer and just put that in and its great now. so audio in bios dissabled.
@HeadShotWI, i would just recomend another bios as i think these boards are kinda sensitive to bios versions. i have no problem with 711.
oh and a quick quesstion for u guys, i had my disk plugged to jmicron port for a while as i was in the process of installing intel matrix so i could use ahci instead of ide i was on before and i ran a hd tach test and noticed that burstspeed was really high, about 250MB, now that i got it on normal port on ahci it's 170MB which is still better than before, about 150 i think, and average is 55.5MB, little higher than before also. funny thing is that i can't check my drive in sandra now, it just stays blank, it worked before going to ahci, but everest show everything fine, it says transfer mode is udma 6
(ATA-133). so is that jmicron port just faster on bursts or am i just missing something? drive is WD2500KS.
Yeah, the onboard sound is crap. Agreed.
So where should we send our complaint email. Address please....
@HeadShotWI
U should try both 399 & 400, and then compare the benchmark results. Your volts looks a bit too high too, but i think its because the strap thing (need more volt to maintain the chipset latency). I got all volts at auto except vdimm and vcore once i hit 400 and above. Your temps looks a bit too high. Are u using stock heatsink? Whats ur room temp? maybe u should check the cpu mountings as well.
-tam2-
I tried both and they both have a 17.85 Pi1M result so hummm...Quote:
Originally Posted by tam2
I set voltages to auto accept for vcore at 1.425 as well. Any ideas how to check the voltages since they are at auto now? I think I might have applied the as5 in a bad way so I will remount my scythe ninja.
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Originally Posted by HeadShotWI
this is how one board will be different from another....i tried 399 and 400 fsb and it was hardly any difference....it might be the bios or a different NB chipset.
geez, i got 17 secs with 7x470 4-5-5-12 & 7x460 4-4-4-12 <== badddd :(
how bout spi 1m @401 HeadShotWI?
We need to get this sound issue fixed - I don't wanna have to buy a bunch of sound cards (I've built like 7 C2D boxes - 4 of them with P5B D's)
This is a serious problem for this board. Argh.
Ill try 401 tommorrow..Quote:
Originally Posted by tam2
i think this might be the way to contact ASUS tech .http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techser...Language=en-us
Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
Personally, i dont think that ASUS even cares about our complain emails.Quote:
No they aren't cached, and this can be reproduced at any time, either with disabling the audio device / removing its driver, or disabling it in bios all together, all of these gets the same result = NORMAL fast computer and drive access.
Just try the simple test I gave in browsing folders, (u can later give the "start Navigating" its sound properties back and see the degradation in performance while browsing folders
The example above is just to illustrate the problem where the system tries to access both services simultaneously (e.g drive access, and the Audio "Click")
just try the simple test I gave in browsing folders, (u can later give the "start Navigating" its sound properties back and see the degradation in performance while browsing folders.
The example above is just to illustrate the problem where the system tries to access both services simultaneously (e,.g drive access, and the Audio "Click")
What I'm trying to do here is for more people to gather around this issues and pressure ASUS to get us a USABLE !!!! Driver, they are responsible for that although ADI is the one that writes the drivers, they will push them if we push Asus.
guys trust me, you have no idea how your computing experience will change once the audio drivers are fixed, this IMPACT the WHOLE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE!!!
The only issue i am xp ing with this board is the sound . It crackles like hell.
You also say that it disimproves the whole system, now, the only thing we can do is wait for a GOOD driver.
I absolutely dont gonna buy a soundcard, cuz i dont have money for a good sound card (x-fi, .live, soundblaster). I am pretty sure that this onboard soundcard has good sound if that crackles is over. (i have always used onboard sound)
2headshot
I think u need to increase the Vcore, lower Vfsb, the other voltages are correct (perhaps Vdimm not, test with memtest).
Then go ~~~460, it mustnt be a problem.
Hello Guys :D
I've a problem with my p5b deluxe :
the pci-express run @ x1 when i overclock my cpu E6600 @ 425*9 1.55v !
i test the bios 614 and the pci-express run @ x16 but the result is exactectly the same as bios 0804 and pci-express x1 :(
any idea ? thank you very much and sorry for my bad english ;)
Guys,
HUGE HUGE HUGE - sorry but i have to draw your attention as this is too important to miss for almost ANY P5B Deluxe owner.
I think I have some pretty big news :D
I will try to be as specific as I can (trust me it costs me my health...)
Ok here goes.....
Slow Boot time (number of blue bars going through etc...)In order to reduce the splash bars (other then disabling the HD AUDIO all together)
Go in the bios and make sure you place the FRONT PANEL AUDIO to HD AUDIO!! Not AC97 as probably 99% of us did.
After doing the above and booting into windows. The system senses there was an Audio change and asks for a reinstallation of the drivers.
I used hte Regular new 4570_DTS driver that are available on the ASUS website.
After that you will need to reboot.
* you will need to go again and define the speaker configuration (Quad speakers in my case) also i went to DTS TAB in sound max and unchecked everything and clicked one on DTS NEO. (This had to be done as my vocal sounded twisted in songs played).
Now I already felt things are a bit faster. And I run BOOTVIS optimization.
The Result was that the TOTAL boot time in Blue bars crossing is 8.3~ ! instead of the 11-12 i once had.
Now 4.5 bars is the HDD activity, afterwards it stops working while the blue bars continue to cross and overall after the 8.3-8.5 bars I'm in windows loading my startup programs.
still it aint perfect as we were able to get 4.5-5.5 with the HD AUDIO totally disabled in bios, but hey u have to allow some Audio drivers to load when the hardware is used so its normal it takes a bit longer.
But still I feel there is a VOID where there is no HDD activity at boot that is a result of the driver.
This might point someone at Asus in the right direction.
Regarding browsing folders in explorer
I re enabled the "click sound for START navigating" in the sound system to see how it is effected by my change.
I think I'm feeling things works much fast though not 100 perfect more like 75-80% better...again this is just a first impression, this might be normal, I'm not fully sure yet.
(hey you guys with NO on board sound cards, can you say how many crossing blue bars you get before windows starts ???? TIA)
Guys this is very fresh and preliminary , please report your experience too.
Why not get PCI sound card? I haven't used onboard sound for like 5 years now since they all suck
you ask why ?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
First off cause i paid for a working one, i'm serious.
second cause its a god damn good chip, only people never got to experience it they way they should cause of weak drivers and weak suuport.
once we get it fully solved if we havent already you will start hearing good things about it i'm sure.
Does your front audio port work now? JUst curious. I have never seen a system or case yet with an actual HD front panel, no idea what the difference is.
To test, make sure you have enabled Preferences/General/Independent Front Headphones.
BTW if you have tried Vista, the sound drivers aren't a problem for some reason.
Last night I put my sound from HDaudio to AC97 just for testing purposes and my splash bars went from 14,5 to 4,5:) I didn't have audio anymore but again its clear enough where the problem lies. Oooh BTW, I allways had my front panel set to HD audio, so that didn't do anything for me.
DO A SEARCH ON GOOGLE FOR "BOOTVIS" by microsoft. Run it. I get .8 blue bars during bootup afterwards. Before I had 5 bars.Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
Run the optimize option. It will reboot your system and optimize the bootup process.
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Originally Posted by DltdApS
:confused:
same prob here.. damn 1x:(