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Why would I waste money on food when there are drives in need of testing?Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.T
OCZ Octane 128 Day 1
15543 GiB
163.28 MB/s Average
27 hours
Samsung 830 256 Day 5
121986 GiB
291.91 MB/s Average
120 hours
551 Wear Leveling Count
MWI 84
0/0 Erase/Program Fail
OCZ Vertex Turbo 64 Day 25
183786 GiB
84.14 MB/s Avg
624 hours
3294 Avg PE count
35 MWI
0/0/0 Read/Program/Erase Fail
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Here is a shot of the Octane, hard at work trying to make me happy.
Attachment 124845
The Samsung is still super fast, the Vertex is still free of bad blocks, and the Octane is acting... what's the word.....?
Marvilinxidelic?
I'm getting a tattoo of that word I just made up to decribe the Octane... somewhere.
Look it up. I swear it's a real word.
I will swear up and down on a whole stack of Bibles that the Octane is basically like a M4 on 0001FW. Or, a whole hell of a lot like the Intel 510. Additionally, before the 1.13FW update, it would have had almost identical higher-QD random scores. So if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... you'd really have to prove that it isn't a duck. It looks, sounds, and tastes a lot like a duck.
The octane is doing pretty well. Hopefully ndurance doesn't mean lifetime throttling, otherwise it really will be a pitty.
Patriot Torqx-2 64GB - Day 38
Drive hours: 910
GiB written: 57,968.00 GiB (56.61 TiB)
Avg MB/s: 20.39 MB/s
Bad blocks: 2/0/83
Wear cycle counter: 0/3623/5515
Intel 520 60GB - Day 29
Drive hours: 711
Avg MB/s: 91.56 MB/s
Host GB written (F1): 217,184.53 GiB (212.09 TiB, 6949905 raw)
NAND writes (F9): 153,796 GiB (150.19 TiB)
Reallocated sectors (05): 0
Failure count (AB, AC): 0 program, 0 erase
Media Wearout Indicator (E9): 52
Thank you for the chart updates Anvil.
Any guesses as when the X25-V will RIP ?
Seems it likes to go slow and steady to its demise.
Its up and I just upgraded my vertex. The seq numbers took a fall but random 4k access numbers are up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...-Solid2-drives
So I looked over on the OCZ forums...Quote:
Originally Posted by devsk
It looks like when you move to Arrowana you lose all the tasty Barefoot SMART attributes. What do you get?
Octane's SMART attributes.
One possible explaination: OCZ is not really keen on users having access to SMART attributes anymore, because I find it strange that they'd refuse to expose those attributes through FW on the Octanes and Arrowanas. Perhaps they didn't have a choice with SF FW? Who knows? But this is not a good trend.
Yeah. I don't like that part. Some of OCZ practices are in bad taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher
The only thing they expose is remaining %age life. Which starts at 100 after this flash....:D You may have written the drive hard in last 2 years but it starts at 100.
Yeah, except the Octane is at 25TiB, and is still at MWI = 100. My guess? That attribute isn't working {nor the sector write attributes} on my drive. So who knows?
Yeah, OCZ are possibly the most arrogant SSD maker out there IMO.
The other thing that really grates me the wrong way is their horrible firmware update system. Having to use their special program to connect to the internet and download the firmware update is far too paranoid, given most other manufactures just give you the sandforce utility and a ROM file.
Not only that, but most of the firmware updates for their non-sandforce drives are destructive ... and then they say on the forums that the firmware update MUST be done ... major source of WTF in my book.
I am NOT looking forward to the Vertex 4 ... unless they can get their stuff up to scratch. Feed me an intel 520 anyday :)
I think the options for Indilinx Barefoot drives are great. So now you have regular, Turbo, and Arrowana FWs for Indilinxes.
It is cool that you can usually rescue a dead drive with a destructive flash, but I don't know if the Octane has that capability.
This things are cool if you are not actually doing anything useful with an SSD .... as soon as you are though, having a single good, well supported firmware is best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher
And having destructive flash the only option of updating firmware (and the manufacturer saying it is most important to flash it) is a pretty awful thing to do.
Hmm, is anyone interested in seeing intel's advantage with their sandforce firmware.
Around here I can get the Silicon Power Velox V30. It uses the sandforce controller and intel synchronous NAND, so it is very similar in phyisical construction to the Intel 520. Good news is that it is fairly inexpensive, about the same price as the cheapest async NAND drives.
If you guys think it would be interesting, I would not be against grabbing one and endurance testing it (see which one dies first ... the intel sandforce or the bare sandforce drive)
Todays update:
Intel X25-M G1 80GB
439,2336 TiB
21868 hours
Reallocated sectors : 04 to 05
MWI=82 to 80
MD5 =OK
44.67 MiB/s on avg
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?ap...tach_id=484055http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?ap...tach_id=484052
m4
583.3678 TiB
2533 hours
Avg speed 73.08 MiB/s.
AD gone from 24 to 17.
P/E 10171.
MD5 OK.
Reallocated sectors : 00
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?ap...tach_id=484054http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?ap...tach_id=484053
Indeed. Maybe OCZ SSD is good for gamers that always tweak their system drives but for reliability go with Intel, Crucial or Samsung. Forget OCZ and other such rebranders.Quote:
Originally Posted by canthearu
If you want to constantly lose your data and mess about with forums and tweaking and updating firmware then please feel free to act as OCZ's guinea pig ...
Samsung 830
169 574 GiB in 167 hours
Just shy of 7 days
3.5x the Turbo speed
Had 271.7GB on it before testing started.
Octane
42 205 GiB in 73.64 hours
~ 3 days
Started out of box
Vertex Turbo
197 542 GiB in 671 hours
~27 days
Started out of box
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Fantastic
It seems too awesome to be true.
Makes me want to throw my 520 under a bus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher
Has the Media Wear Indicator moved on this one yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher
Keeps ticking away. Just how far it can go is anyones guess given the nice error free operation of the NAND :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher
The Samsung is super sexy.Quote:
Originally Posted by canthearu
Not a bit. But this drive is really starting to grow on me. I think the interesting parts are the ones that don't show up in benches.Quote:
Originally Posted by canthearu
It's not like they're making a lot of 51nm Samsung NAND anymore, and I'm almost sad that I'm murdering such a wonderful drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by canthearu
Almost.
So nobody thinks it is interesting to see exactly how much difference intel's firmware/NAND poaching makes to an the 520's life?Quote:
Originally Posted by canthearu
But of course we do ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by canthearu
Are you sure they are using comparable NAND?
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/435...ew/index4.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Anvil
Seems to be 25nm Intel synchronous NAND.
I would like to see a SF on 100% incompressible data. I can think of a few things that might happen off the top of my head.
But I probably have enough drives going for the time being. There are some older drives in desperate need of testing, and I for one would very much like to see a Indilinx on 34nm Intel (and the Incompressible data on a SF).
But I think 3 concurrent drives is about my limit, so it's going to have to be someone else for a while. Unless I change my mind.
No, the velox v30 would be for me to test. That way I'd be at 3 drives as well.
No, I get that. I was just ruminating on the possibilities. I have that 120GB Chronos Deluxe I've been threatening to test for some time. But I think the next SF I do is gonna be on incompressible data. I think that's where the interesting stuff happens.
But I suspect that it would get VERY slow after a few hours.