Forward: official GIGA 965P-S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 beta BIOS

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Originally Posted by handle

No cold boot at 430x7, get it at 440x7.

What are you thinking?

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I believe some people have had problems with previos bios's while others have got voltage setting issue and probably others both.

With F9 and your setting, I think you "may" have a marginal voltage problem. Its probably either Vcore or your (G)MCH.**I can actually cause a cold boot issue on my rig (and fix it) with F9.

Before you go to bed tonight, set these voltages and then raise the FSB back up (testing all is ok before you turn of course).

Vcore 3.625
(G)MCH +3
Actually change your ram to +5 (although I think +4 is ok)

These may be a "little" higher than you need, but certainly aren't going to hurt and you can test these down later.

Please let us know how it goes, I am fairly convinced F9-DS3 and F7-S3 has mostly fixed both the cold boot and 450FSB issue.

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Originally Posted by Battleneter

I believe some people have had problems with previos bios's while others have got voltage setting issue and probably others both.

With F9 and your setting, I think you "may" have a marginal voltage problem. Its probably either Vcore or your (G)MCH.**I can actually cause a cold boot issue on my rig (and fix it) with F9.

Before you go to bed tonight, set these voltages and then raise the FSB back up (testing all is ok before you turn of course).

Vcore 3.625
(G)MCH +3
Actually change your ram to +5 (although I think +4 is ok)

These may be a "little" higher than you need, but certainly aren't going to hurt and you can test these down later.

Please let us know how it goes, I am fairly convinced F9-DS3 and F7-S3 has mostly fixed both the cold boot and 450FSB issue.

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I'll give it a shot and let you know the results.

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Originally Posted by OnLine

Yep, Nope, Yep & Yep!

You're right, nothing is 100% safe but let's say 99% then?! :p:

How much is +0.3V MCH, in real voltage? 1.5 ... 1.6? :confused:

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I've read default on a 965P DS3 is around 1.2V so, yes in a perfect world you'd be at 1.5V

http://download.intel.com/design/chi...s/31305302.pdf
Table 11-1
VCC 1.25V
Min -0.3V Max 1.375V

Alright ty, 1.5V doesn't sound too high when You think of mobo's offering up to 2.0V and some people are using 1.7-1.8V for 24/7.
But it's still 20% over Intel spec.

:explode2: :banana: :explode2:

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Originally Posted by handle

I'll give it a shot and let you know the results.

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tested 440x7 & 450x7 on power up cold boot loop then back to defaults
will not hold settings. 430x7 still ok

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Originally Posted by handle

tested 440x7 & 450x7 on power up cold boot loop then back to defaults
will not hold settings. 430x7 still ok

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Little confused

Did the board hold its settings initially? and then you left off for say 20 minutes then it lost it? (cold boot)

or never held the settings at all?

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Originally Posted by Battleneter

Little confused

Did the board hold its settings initially? and then you left off for say 20 minutes then it lost it? (cold boot)

or never held the settings at all?

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Yes, it will hold the settings until powered down.

On save of bios settings: long series of beeps, warm boots a couple of times...boots to xp.

Power down. Did not leave it off for 20 minutes. 1 minute max.
Turn system on, power up, power down loop, ends with no video (black screen of death).
Manual power down and turn on again, it will then reset to 266x7 with memory settings to auto.

Yeah I have the same. I'm always afraid with those power up/down loops, I think it's very bad for my HDDs !! :eek:

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

soodent My patriots are D9GMH it can boot always until 1000MHz 5-5-4-8 2.0v now I can do 1040 stable 1167 not stable only with 2.0v I dont try more voltage

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D9GMH are not fafbody as i know.Rectangular ones are not fatbody memory.
My D9GCT also runs well on DS3 and its not fatbody.Most fatbody has D9D markings as my D9DQW and they dont boot on DS3.

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Originally Posted by soodent

What markings do your fatbody chips have?

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HamidFULL never mentioned in his post he had fat body chips. He just stated he had Patriot D9.

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Originally Posted by soodent

Rectangular ones are not fatbody memory.

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I guess it's the triangular and circular chips that are fat body D9s. :D

You know, a rectangular shape has 4 right angles. The definition specifies nothing more. "Rectangular" is "nelinurkne" in estonian. ;)

Yes, I'm way too funny these days. :p:

Conroe E6300 L627A @ 3.5GHz FSB 500+1MHz 1.4250v Stable OC Details (Waiting for Yorkfield)
Gigabyte 965P-DS4 F7 Final Rev1.0 (965-C2)
2GB Patriot DDR2-800 Micron D9 Fat Body @ 1:1 1000MHz 5-5-5-12 2.0v
PixelView 7900GS @ Core 540MHz Mem 1440MHz w/Stock Cooler (Waiting for 8900GS/GTO+OC)
HDD 250GB Seagate 7200.10 ST3250820AS
HDD 120Seagate Max 10 6L120M0

Here is hes conf and notice- Fat Body.I already told rectangular ones are NOT fatbody.Voi että poika panotta..Triangular is kolmnurkne and as that impossible(kolmkantti).

Maybe he has a kit of D9DQTs and another which has D9GMHs. ;)

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Triangular is kolmnurkne and as that impossible(kolmkantti).

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How about those circular chips? Are they feasible?
:stick:



Hey, has anyone seen soodent's sense of humour?
:D

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Voi että poika panotta.

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Sorry, no comprendo.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

richard there is an old addage that holds true even today,

if it aint broke then dont fvcking fix it.

you have A B S O L U T E L Y no ,, NO reason to have an updated bios rom.. N O N E . do you even know what it does.


sorry ol friend for being such a d|ck but jesus Rich man alive,, give it a rest with the retarded intel Rom stuff

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GASP! - Lestat insulted me :nono:
OK...if that were the case then why did GB update the JMicron bios to 1.06.59?...there are many reasons to update bios ROM's...while everything may work fine there are always things and scenarios whereby things are broken.

In addition updates improve performance in some cases, add new features, bug fixes, compatiability updates, expanding device support etc.

Add to that i feel if updates exist then they should be implemented, same reason why GB update the QFlash utility.

My RMA replacement came in and it was a Rev 2 board.

Last night while testing different memory multipliers, I had the FSB at 900 and was doing some testing. I put the memory on 2.5 which I believe is a 4:5 ratio. I saved out of the bios and it turned off like a bad overclock. It turned back on and off about 6 times, each time saying it was recovering the bios. It would stay on about 5 seconds and then turn off again. Then it just turned off.

When i turned it on, the bios was gone. No combination of clear cmos, removing battery, booting with only one memory stick and video, clearing cmos again, removing battery again, shorting the battery connections, Nothing worked.

It won't post ...........nothing on the screen...........and it wont flash from a diskette except through qflash and you can't get to that without posting.

So this piece of crap is back in the box and there will never be another GB board in my machine. I have my trusty C19-A SLI back in with all the same components and it is perfect. So it wasn't my components that did this. THE SECOND TIME BY THE WAY!!! The DS3 has some serious issues with the P4/PD.

Buy someone elses board.

By the way bios F9 is exactly same as F7.Nothing has changed and D9D memory still wont boot.Even benchmarks 1:1 to older version F7.No change in overclock or cold boot.Will replace with nvidia 650i mobo soon.May be rev.2 DS3 may work with D9D- please give information.

DS4 F7 bios and still cannot boot over 399mhz fsb, freezes and reboots in boot screen :(, but luckily they have remove that boot&shutdown thingy..i guess

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Originally Posted by JPH1589

I don't understand where you get off saying that. Is there a problem with telling people what happened with a board? Is there a problem with posting on multiple messabe boards?

I dont whine about it. I'm sorry if it bothers you. I have 3 other computers in my house with ECS and ASUS boards in them and I've never had problems like this.

I'm just really floored by your response. I guess you must think since I have a pentium D that I don't have a rigth to be here and post.

I'm really sorry to have intruded on your reality. Have a nice day.

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No, I could care less about your CPU. I just don't get why one day you loved your new mobo and the next day, after you killed your second board in the exact same manner as you killed the first, you now hate it.

And having to see your experience cut and pasted on multiple enthusiast boards doesn't make that any easier to figure out.

Hasn't it occured to you that you may be at fault in regards to the death of your DS3 motherboards? I don't see a whole lot of people besides yourself having this problem with the DS3. I see a bunch of posts on a bunch of boards but they are all the same one guy.

I was really hoping you were gonna have better luck after hearing your experience on the first DS3. But I was not even a bit surprised when it happened again, especially after I saw you claim a 4.48Ghz O/C on the second board. Those who can not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Good luck... seriously, I mean that. :toast:

P.S. You might look into a better power supply. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if it was the thing frying out your boards. ;)

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Originally Posted by Cracker

No, I could care less about your CPU. I just don't get why one day you loved your new mobo and the next day, after you killed your second board in the exact same manner as you killed the first, you now hate it.

And having to see your experience cut and pasted on multiple enthusiast boards doesn't make that any easier to figure out.

Hasn't it occured to you that you may be at fault in regards to the death of your DS3 motherboards? I don't see a whole lot of people besides yourself having this problem with the DS3. I see a bunch of posts on a bunch of boards but they are all the same one guy.

I was really hoping you were gonna have better luck after hearing your experience on the first DS3. But I was not even a bit surprised when it happened again, especially after I saw you claim a 4.48Ghz O/C on the second board. Those who can not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Good luck... seriously, I mean that. :toast:
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P.S. You might look into a better power supply. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if it was the thing frying out your boards. ;)

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I really don't need this. Have a nice day.

soodent : Patriots on my rig have Fatest Body D9!!! its D9GKX!! but they are in my wife PC and now I have D9GMH on my PC my result was w/D9GMH
largon : you are so SMART Tanx
Richard Dower : I am waiting for your DQ6 Rev2.0 and test result tanx for drivers
JPH1589 + t800 : look here :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3792

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Originally Posted by OnLine

Alright ty, 1.5V doesn't sound too high when You think of mobo's offering up to 2.0V and some people are using 1.7-1.8V for 24/7.
But it's still 20% over Intel spec.

:explode2: :banana: :explode2:

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I had to find out what the actuals are for my board.:scope: .

normal and +.3 same at OC FSB pretty much what they found out here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=107692&page=2
months ago.

Here's my 965P-S3 F7 MCH readings.

stock 266x7
actual bios setting
1.277V normal
1.373V +.1
1.468V +.2
1.556V +.3

400x7
1.571V normal
1.379V +.1
1.473V +.2
1.572V +.3

450x7
1.575V normal
1.381V +.1
1.476V +.2
1.574V +.3

480x7
1.578V normal
1.381V +.1
1.477V +.2
1.578V +.3

500x7
1.577V normal
1.477V +.2
no boot at +.1 & +.3

and just to be sure because memory.
vdimm 450x7
2.12V +.3
2.22V +.4
2.32V +.5
2.42V +.6

480x7
2.32V +.5

As I was taking the readings, I kept thinking: All I've got to do is touch the lead over there and my cold boot issues with F7 will be over.:D

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

soodent : Patriots on my rig have Fatest Body D9!!! its D9GKX!!

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D9GKX is not fatbody

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

JPH1589 + t800 : look here :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3792

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That helped to raise to 975mhz~, but then when mem 1000(fbs 400mhz), no boot

I see only way fix that, is to buy mobo, which isn't manufactured by gigabyte:devil:

HamidFULL,
"D9" is Micron's way of saying "this chip is DDR2 packaged in FBGA".

There are many totally different chips with part ID that begins with "D9"
D9GMH nor D9GKX are not fat body chips.
There's 2 kinds of "Fat body" chips, D9DQT (BT-3 = rated 333MHz) and D9DQW (BT-37E = rated 266MHz).

This is how a fat body D9 looks like:

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Originally Posted by handle

Here's my 965P-S3 F7 MCH readings.

stock 266x7
actual bios setting
1.277V normal
1.373V +.1
1.468V +.2
1.556V +.3

400x7
1.571V normal
1.379V +.1
1.473V +.2
1.572V +.3

450x7
1.575V normal
1.381V +.1
1.476V +.2
1.574V +.3

480x7
1.578V normal
1.381V +.1
1.477V +.2
1.578V +.3

500x7
1.577V normal
1.477V +.2
no boot at +.1 & +.3

and just to be sure because memory.
vdimm 450x7
2.12V +.3
2.22V +.4
2.32V +.5
2.42V +.6

480x7
2.32V +.5

As I was taking the readings, I kept thinking: All I've got to do is touch the lead over there and my cold boot issues with F7 will be over.:D

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If I'm reading this correctly, normal voltage for the MCH is the same as +.3 when overclocking?