Careful with that PWM , it's a little bit high .
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I just swapped out my Opty 165 for a Opty 170 LCB9E 0651 RPMW.
I'm 10 hours in running dual prime on Linux at 10 x 300 1.4V.
I'm hopefully on my way to the 3GHz club for the first time.
This one is running cool at 40c under prime on water.
My opty 165 took me to 2800MHz but lost stability over time.
Was last running it at 2.5 GHz.
That chip ran hot and needed 1.6V to achevie 2.8GHz.
My 170 was bought it at Newegg and it arrived two days ago.
Running DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI Expert.
1GB Crucial Balistic Tracer.
I'll post more once I'm sure it's prime stable.
I'm running a 165 CCBBE 0617 @ 3.0 stable. 333x9 FSB. I did remove the HS for temps.
I would hope any 170+ could match this or do better honestly. I just dont see how 185's are barely getting to 3.0ghz and calling it good....I would shoot for 3.2+. I would love to get a 185 and play with to go above 3.0ghz, lowering the cpu multipler and increasing the FSB to get well above 3.0ghz seems possible..but S939 is slowly dying, and plan on doing upgrade at the end of the year.
Sounds like the issue I had...My core didnt have very good contact w/ the HS. Remove the HS and temps droped from 40idle to 22idle, load 65 (3 hours orthos) to an average of 37.3 (24hours of orthos)Quote:
have a fan blowing over it and it hovers around 75C usually . Without a fan it goes up to about 86C. These LCB9E are just very power hungry chips . My PWM never exceeded 50C with my single core opty
3Ghz at 1.3V.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/318/89268065op5.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=216598
Probably this chip can do a lot more,the only problem is how to keep temps low.
When i get the watercooling i will give it a try with ice water.
stealth
Thanks.
Load temps?No way,i don't even try to stress it with air temp at 32-35ºC,i am on air cooling.
That was only a test i was trying to hit 3.0Ghz with the less voltage i could,for every day use i run it at 2948mhz and my load temps goes up to 65ºC so is not worth to stress it at 3.0Ghz.
VCore voltage in BIOS 1.1125v.
stealth
here you go: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=216813
cpuz shows something wrong...it should be 1:1 and i dont know why it shows cpu/10 :confused:
Almost the same stepping I have, LCB9E 0651 MPMW, but it seems my memory don't want me to clock it to 3 ghz, may also be temperature, can boot at 3 ghz, but not stable for prime or orthos (the same basicly), and since my memory only wants to go to 260mhz and the only way to do that at the present is to clock cpu:ram -> 1:1 .. I gain alot from having my memory up there although I would really love get my 170 up to 3 ghz, that would be really sweet :) It clocks from stock 2.0 ghz @ 1.35V to 2.6 ghz @ 1.375V but I am suspicious that it is the memory controller that needs more voltage when I "OC" that ridicoulus 10mhz... my memory sticks are 250mhz, but when I say "oc'ing" really ANYTHING above 200mhz for memory is an oc :shrug:
Holy load temps! WOW..Thats with 1.1 core volts? I was loading @ 38/32 when I was running with the HS installed @ 1.568 volts! Once I removed the HS everything dropped to well below stock setup @ 1.35volts. I would remove the HS on that sucker and let the OC'ing begin personally! Want to sell that processor :)
http://www.techpowerup.com/ocdb/data/411/cpuz1.gif
I see your HT-LINK is at 1365mhz, did you have to enable overvoltage SB and/or NB to make this stable? Any physical mods to the board? I removed the cooling-tape on PWM-mosfets (there's a long aluminium-cooler over the PWM area, I simply took it off, removed the tape and put on som artic cooler ceramique paste instead).
Once I OC'd my 165 I was having temp issues like you are. My idles where 42/38 and under orthose they immediately went to 60 and would slowly creep up. I went with a water system instead thinking air just wasnt good enough, on h20 idle was 42/38 and load was exactly the same. I really didnt want to remove the HS, but I wanted to maintain the OC I had it was required. Was easy following the instructions here, and now on water the idle temps are 32/22....under load after 24hours of orthose the average temp for cores was 37.3 :)
It made a huge difference imo, but I dont think I had good contact on my processor w/ the HS.
Those are some interesting results you have as well...Very nice.
And blah....my A8R32-MVP doesnt like anything above 1500 for HTT
Thanks gromet,
Very interesting...........i think i will follow the same steps,see how is going with the watercooling first and if temps still high then i can remove the HS.
Well,at the moment there are other priorities,so i have to be patient it will take a few months to get the watercooling.
stealth
Mine doesn't either, above 1400 will corrupt my drive if I don't watch it. Doesn't matter though, 283x4 still gives me ~1133 which is good enough. Remember not to push your HTT too much, because first of all it doesn't improve anything, and second, too high may lower performance because of errors in the HT link. Though I've also found HT speeds (too much) below 1000 to cause instability as well. RD580 likes it above 1000, just don't push it.
Hello all. I have an opty 165 CCBBE 0615EPMW. I have had it very stable at 2.9 / 3.0 . expect for Super Pi . So I think it was the memory. Sorry don't remember the specs.
My DFI LP NF4 SLI-D died and I have sold off everthing expect the chip. I wanted to go Nforce 8500 anyway and replace the memory. I had some OZC pc4200 (ddr500) Gold EL stuff.
I broght a OCZ powerstream 600W. I have a Hyper 48 cooler.
I have a board that I will be selling but wanted to test the chip.
If this chip is good should I stay with 939 or go AM2? What board and memory should I get? I have tried reading thur all this tread but more confused than anything.
Thanks so much.
There are guys in here that they know more than me and they can tell you what this stepping can do.
What i can tell you is that is not a good time to upgrade,not before Quad core is out.
As you said you have the board and you have the chip so you don't need much to make it run.
If you upgrade now to AM2 in a few months when Quad core come out AM2 will be past.
Look what happen to 939 socket,i slept the night and i had a high end machine and i woke up with a dead socket.
stealth
Sorry guys i don't know what happen.
stealth
CCBBE are some of the best Optys around imo. I have a CCBBE 0617 that runs 3.0ghz stable (I need 5+ hours before I say stable). Now I do question your "stable at 2.9/3.0 but cannot run Super Pi".....I can run superpi all day long, but fail at real stress test (orthos or prime95 in less then 10mins). I've run PI @ 3153 but have failed orthos in 10secs...So what is stable? I dont think PI is a very good example (depending on the size I guess), and I really question you failing PI but being stable. I think the system was unstable, but you ran it @ that speed. As long as your not having issues, whats the issue right? I just perfer being completely stable as can be in my OC.
The processor is good...will fetch a decent price on Ebay or somewheres even though 165 prices are under a 100.00 now. As for your question? Are you asking weather to rebuild or go AM2? Personally I would go AM2 w/ a 6000+. With a good stepping you can get 3.5ghz which is impressive, plus the increase from DDR to DDR2. I remember reading that when the AM3's come out, they will be backwards compatable, meaning you can run a AM3 in a socket AM2 setup as AMD feels the price of DDR3 is too expensive. I would do some research on this to make sure, but I remember reading something along those lines, but maybe that is AM2+ setups. If I was going to build a new setup, thats what I would do, especially if later down the road I can upgrade to a AM3. S939 is taking a slow death...but its coming.
I am thinking on the same lines. If I have to pay for all new stuff (not counting the chip) I may as well go AM2. Pricing is about the same for either.
Sure AM3 is due out soon but who is to run out and do it for several months until most of the issues are addressed and price are a little more inline.
If I going to have "old" stuff , it may as well be "new old stuff".
I have an old celeron (a what?) 2.8ghz socket 487 I am thinking about getting a board and some memory for and using that awhile until I can everthing else together. A little over clock to 3.0 and say a gig of memory should be able to do what I want.
Anything is better than this PII 500 thing I am trying to on now.
Thanks for the input
Yea...I plan on going AM2 towards the end of the year getting ready for AM3. I dont think DDR3 is coming down soon in price. I'm just waiting for more boards that are AM2+ to come out, specifically one that supports Crossfire (I like my 2 x1950's right now). Soon as I find one that I like...the 6000+ is under 200! Thats great performance for so little, and the new steppings are getting great results.