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Originally Posted by ferrari_freak
Thats just one place. It seems that nearly all Dell 2007's are plagued with the "banding" issue and others with "washed out colors". My suggestion would be to get either a 2005fpw or a 2405fpw if you wanted a widescreen Dell monitor. Those don't have any issues AFAIK.
Dell 2405 is available for purchasing. Except the price is 750LVL. 1$ ~ 0.55LVL. 750 * 100 / 55 ~ 1363$ I'm afraid it wont fit in my 500-1000$ budget. There are three shops that sell Dell LCD's localy, maybe the other two have it for a better price. Any other suggestions as to what I should look for if Dell 2405 doesn't come through(for movies & games)?Quote:
Originally Posted by wizboy11
Dell 2405 at Dell.com is $999, then use coupons to drop the price down even more.
Are you in the US?
and how's Acer F-20 Black-Red 20" 8ms Widescreen ???
link http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009071
wizboy11, that's just the problem -- I'm not in the US, I'm in Europe. Some stuff I cannot get :stick: .
Has anyone had any experience gaming on the Dell or Apple (new version) 30" monitors?
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Apple 20-inch Cinema
Price: 700-800 USD
Specs:
- 20-inch Widescreen LCD Display
- LG Phillips S-IPS Panel
- 16 ms Response Time
- 8-bit colour (16.7 Million Colours)
- Contrast Ratio: 400:1
- Native Resolution: 1680x1050
- Pixel Pitch: 0.258 mm
Pros:
- High native resolution
- Excellent colour reproduction and visual quality
- Excellent viewing angles
- Beautiful aluminum finish
- High quality assembly
Cons:
- Motion blurring AND ghosting noticeable in gaming and everyday use
- Very Expensive
Summary:
This monitor looks absolutely amazing. The motion blurring and screen ghosting, however, make it a poor choice for gaming considering the faster panels out there. It has the exact same panel and response time as the Viewsonic V201s, and yet illustrates a poorer response in practical application. Just goes to show that even the same panel can perform differently depending on the monitor.
It seems that the creator of this thread seems to be a little misinformed about the nature of the 20" ACD. I have taken the liberty to try and correct a few flaws in your description of the 20" Apple Cinema Display.
I've had this monitor for about 6 months now and it has beaten every other LCD I have seen (new ones from Viewsonic and Dell etc.) in response time, colour production and of course in stylishness.
This monitor (or at least mine) DOES NOT ghost at all. My friend has a Viewsonic 912 (8ms), which ghosts a bit (noticeable in CS:S) and has (according to him) quite horrible colour reproduction. Anyway, we compared many fast paced games like NFSMW, NFSU2, all kinds of Source-engine based games etc and this monitor simply doesn't ghost at all.
However, this monitor was quite expensive (755 eur with student discount) and it cannot scale any pictures so it will run at 1680x1050 or it just show a black screen. I currently have a love-hate relationship with it. When it works, there is nothing that can beat it. The play experience on this thing is jaw dropping. World of Warcraft (please forgive me for my sins...) among other things is heaven on this piece of hardware. When it doesn't work (registry hacking a game to work on 1680x1050) it is a major pain in the ass. Luckily all most all games support 1680x1050 natively nowadays (or at least the ones I play).
For those who have deep pockets and follow a strict style pattern with their computer hardware, nothing can beat the 20" Apple Cinema Display so I absolutely recommend it. :)
The 23" and 30" displays are in a class of their own. I have never tested any games on them and I have heard some bad reports about them regarding their gaming potential so I have no reason to suspect that the characteristics of the 20" apply to the other displays.
PS. I am not an apple-fan nor do I own any apple computers and probably never will.
how you can say the acd is better than dell 20" if in fact they are the same lcd... just a exterior change and a massive price in the apple one? you can find the dell 2407 for 890$ less than what you paid for your 20" i cant see any ghost in my 2405fpw but some ppl with better eyesight perhaps see some ghosting all dell and apple are actually same panel apple is just charging premium because they are used to it....
I too would like to know about this. The resolution is just great but the response time is lacking. With this thing it would be like looking out of a window when you play games. Also I guess the max refresh rate will be 60 hertz which will suck. What is a good lcd display modding site?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jatku
Yes, they are the same LCD, but the dell using some kind of Digital --> Analog --> Digital adapter inside the LCD to enable picture scaling (which the ACD cant do :(), but this degrades picture quality. Check my reply in another thread please.
I was earlier thinking about selling my 20" ACD to get he 2407 in order to get a bigger viewable area, but according several reviews around the internet the 2407 has major picture quality problems. If the problems are solved in the next revision, I will seriously consider selling my ACD, however. :stick:
In order of preference Samsung 244T (8 bit color and no banding vs the 2407 which has 6 bit color...), 2405, or waiting for the 2707 or Samsung equivalent, but that won't fit the budget.
Image Max H-View Angle Image Max V-View Angle
±89° (typical) ±89° (typical)
Color Support Connectivity Technology
16.7 Million Cable
8bit panel i preffer the dell having the scale technology at 1920x1200 first not many games support it and then you need some major gpu power
i wont pay more for a white stylish lcd....
the dell 3007fpw is a beat fragtek here bought one and he was very happy he sold his 2405 to move and he said it was great.
2707 coming may use this panel:
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TFTL...1/LTM270M1.htm
Sep-Oct' ish
probably is that one 3000:1 nice contrast ratio
Noticed the guide hasn't been updated for almost six months (latest edit was 12-28-2005), has nothing happend since then? Does anyone know when next gen of ~24" 1920x1200 displays are coming, that will hopefully be even better at gaming (I know you are very happy with your lev... but still). Good luck lev on the turtle soup btw...
yes turok is free now and he is preparing and update right now we have full new line up of dell 2007 2407 3007 and next 2707 we are just waiting reviews and ppl that buys them to read customer reviews about the lcd
just wait a little and you will see some updates :p:
btw the soup was great xD
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200..._monito/1.html
dell 2407fpw review
I'm beginning to think I'd like to see the 30" Dell panel with the Samsung panel. /sigh Even if they start using the panel, how would we know? Wish they would also start using like a 3007L and 3007S and just let us pick.
:)
what is the minimum resolution and the max resolution for dual display? i mean in each monitor?
I enjoy my gateway 19" widescreen monitor. I bought it for the price and the fact that it supports hdcp over dvi. I see no ghosting while gaming and my dvd's look as good as can be expected. I cannot wait till I get an hd-dvd or blu ray to see some better image quality though.
Great Guide!!! Have a 37" for PC but SED is looking sweet!!!
Hey does any1 know if this monitor is any good?
its the Benq FP202W 20" LCD
http://benq.com/products/LCD/?product=594
I've heard generally good things about Benq.
I'm thinking of buying a TFT screen, my good ol' LG 901B feels a bit old.
So, I've been checking out the new NEC widescreen monitor and the Samsung Syncmaster 215TW. According to the reviews I've read, the samsung seems to be ahead of the NEC monitor.
So, what do you guys think of the screens, and do you have a better monitor to reccomend, please go ahead. :)
I cant believe that I get more info here than any other place wth, neway great job and thanks.