:welcome: HelixQuote:
Originally Posted by Helix354
and thanks for posting the info!
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:welcome: HelixQuote:
Originally Posted by Helix354
and thanks for posting the info!
So any news , has been more than a month since the last post in this topic.
RRR grabbed ALL the trademarks including XS and even my name (DarthBeavis). I have it on good advice they left DarthButtplug and BARELYBETTERTHANASTOCKPACKARDBELLSYSTEM open however. I expect Fugger to change the XS domain name any day now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemonEyez
can he legally do that?
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
:yepp: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sniperbob
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
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I tried the same search just now...Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] riptide
Same. Swiftech? Same result.Quote:
Owner
Help
Name: Aquatuning GmbH
ID No: 344973
Natural or legal person: Legal entity
Address: Beckheide 13
Post code: 33689
Town: Bielefeld
Country: GERMANY
Correspondence address: Aquatuning GmbH Beckheide 13 D-33689 Bielefeld ALEMANIA
Telephone: 00 49-5205991980
Fax: 00 49-52059919822
Use the advanced search instead of basic, and put aquatuning in the owner name field. Should come up with all the trademarks they have applied for. At a quick glance nothing has changed since I posted the good news about Noctua getting their trademark back from aquatuning. I am betting Noctua threatened AT with something that got them to give up the mark.
Hmmm this is dire. Is JUSTAREPACKAGEDDELL still available? I've heard rumors of men, men with plans. Top men.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
Just another update:
2 Trademarks Rightfully OwnedCode:1 CoolIT Systems CTM 008147662 LOST!
2 ACRyan CTM 008109894 Unresolved
3 Thermochill CTM 008109886 LOST!
4 Dye Bomb CTM 007605637 Owned
5 Swiftech CTM 007605611 Unresolved
6 SilenX iXtrema CTM 007605595 Unresolved
7 Recom CTM 007605587 Unresolved
8 XSPC CTM 007542327 LOST!
9 Masterkleer CTM 007542293 Unresolved
10 Noctua CTM 007542236 LOST!
11 Koolance CTM 007542194 Abandoned? Not in system anymore
12 Danger Den CTM 007542152 Unresolved
13 Bitspower CTM 007542137 Unresolved
14 aqua tuning CTM 007542129 Owned
15 Yate Loon CTM 007242068 Owned
16 Phobya CTM 007237861 Owned
2 Trademarks Questionably Owned
4 Trademarks applied for, now in the hands of the rightful owners (through some means I don't know which)
1 Trademark applied for now apparently abandoned.
7 Trademarks still in the process of trying to be stolen
thanks for the heads up ;) I was actually wondering...so you're saying Yate Loon is OK right...so there's been an agreement between the two I suppose.
@Helix354
Unfortunately both Thermochill and XSPC seem to have a strong relationship to Aquatuning, AT is still their main distributor in Germany. So your "LOST!" is is no real progress in this matter.
Koolance is still almost exclusivly distributed in Germany by Aquatuning.
Sadly there is still no change regarding Swiftech, Bitspower and DangerDen :(
But AT seems to have problems with fresh supply at least from Bitspower and DangerDen :p: By contrast Swiftech products (also new ones) are still in stock at AT.
If there is any boycott from suppliers side it comes from Bitspower (in Germany distributed by Caseking with an enhanced program, now, no products left at AT) and DangerDen (no big presence in Germany at all).
So now they have started copying Bitspower fittings. Take a look at the selection of new products. There are several blatant rip-offs in there.
"LOST!" means that AT does not own the trademark, they have lost their bid to own it. Those trademarks that are marked as "LOST!" are now owned by the rightful owners. Like I said, I don't know what the means used to obtain this outcome were. Some may have pressured AT to give up their bid and voluntarily transfer ownership of the trademark, others may have gone through the formal complaint process.Quote:
Originally Posted by scamps
But I wouldn't expect scamps to actually check the system for himself and verify what I have said from his history in this thread....
As for Yate-Loon, no they are not safe. The Yate-Loon trademark is owned by Aquatuning for EU. All trademarks marked as "Owned" are currently registered and owned by Aquatuning. Yate-Loon would be one of the two questionably or wrongfully owned trademarks.
if this misunderstanding is still not cleared up - I canīt change it :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Helix354
What I wanted to mention: Regarding the market situation in Germany the problem is still unsolved, yet. Thermochill- and XSPC-products are even more exclusivly distributed in Germany by AT today as months before :( (although Thermochill- and XSPC-rights are "lost").
Swiftech still lists AT as reseller on their website. A-C-Shop as one other reseller (my favourite :wave:) must not use the brand in their shop at all. Unbelievable.
Thermochill, XSPC and Koolance are listing AT as one and only reseller in Germany.
So I am still waiting on the visible resistance of the manufacturers against those machinations of AT ... Bitspower is the one and only who has clearly exchanged his distributor, yet - even regardless of the trademark.
AT themselves is copying or rebranding ("Phobya") more and more products formerly known under other brands.
So there are no good news at all (except Bitspower).
I don't know how much clearer I can make it...Quote:
Originally Posted by scamps
AQUATUNING "LOST" THEIR BID TO OWN THE THERMOCHILL AND XSPC TRADEMARKS. THOSE TRADEMARKS ARE NOW OWNED BY THERMOCHILL AND XSPC RESPECTIVELY.
Obviously the companies have come to some sort of agreement or understanding.
only your last one is clear enough :p: - so tell it like it is:
While (and although and not because) a lot of people in Germany (incl. myself) and abroad boycott Aquatuning some of the companies seem to have come to an arrangement with AT. What is Thermochill, XSPC and Koolance (and perhaps Swiftech).
It's easy to recognize lots of products coming out of the same factory in asia only with different names on em.Quote:
Originally Posted by scamps
"OCZ", "Danger Den" or "Phobya" stickers wont change the product itself, when comes out the same factory.
The tubes, pumps, radiators all remain the same product, no matter what your distributor calls them.
Same with cars. Renault ("Espace"), Mercedes ("Vito"), Ford ("Galaxy"), Alfa Romeo... they all had the same VR6 Engine by Volkswagen if you ordered the V6 engine version. There might be a different piece of plastic on it labeled "xyz", but underneath it was all the same.
Just wanted to order some WC parts from AT and then I read this topic. Still gonna order there probably, with my total setup AT is about €50,- cheaper then the next Dutch retailer. Shipping abroad from the US means paying import taxes and adding up to the same price difference with only more delay's.
Welcome to XSQuote:
Originally Posted by Kadett
which other retailer are you referring to?
Been here for a while now, lurking around in the LC section:D
IIRC there are only 3 big dutch Retailers AT, Highflow and FreezingHardware
doesn't Highflow stock what you want. And if not. I'm sure Freddy will get it in for you.
I'd go with Highflow idd. Not sure if freezingHw has an u-to-date stock.
Freezing Hardware isn't up to date. Just checked again with Highflow. Mmmmmm apparently made a mistake last time (ie more expensive barbs x10 = big difference). Difference now is just €23,- mostly due to the Swiftech XT being €13,- more. Better to support a local Dutch retailer then a big German company :P
Danger Den NEVER claimed to produce pumps, tubing, or radiators. Their bread the butter are water-blocks and cases. I hope you are not saying these are produced abroad (generally). I have seen their equipment (please do not turn that into a ghey comment). . . and production.Quote:
Originally Posted by Till