Case Design for Liquid Cooling

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06-11-2009, 05:39 AM
Mick64

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

It's rolled and crimped on the 1mm, but seriously, you dont want the case to be overbuilt - its just a waste and increases cost. an all 2mm alu case would be very heavy by case standards, especially in such a large case size

Of course, if 1mm or 1.5mm is adequate, then that gauge would be used. Like I said, I'm no expert. I would leave that sort of decision to the fabricators....
06-11-2009, 07:00 AM
Extigy

You need to measure the thickness of the tj07 as like this case, all the strength comes from the outer case. the ATCS 840 for example has reinforcement at each corner and is about half the size. Not a good example. I would say 2mm aluminium from the main body, 1.5mm for the shelves and side panels (given their size!)

Manufacturing processes like rolling, crimping will only add more expense compared to using thicker aluminium for prototyping / small batch production.
06-11-2009, 07:01 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

I have a tj right here, I will measure it

well jeeze, the TJ-07 has a damn thick shell.... no wonder its so damn expensive - you would need a highly custom ultra heay duty roller just to do that shell right.

the side panels of the tj are 1.3mm alu and the inside construction is 2mm. Unless you want this case to be $600-700 I suggest you DONT build it like a TJ-07
06-11-2009, 07:16 AM
Metric

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

I have a tj right here, I will measure it

well jeeze, the TJ-07 has a damn thick shell.... no wonder its so damn expensive - you would need a highly custom ultra heay duty roller just to do that shell right.

the side panels of the tj are 1.3mm alu and the inside construction is 2mm. Unless you want this case to be $600-700 I suggest you DONT build it like a TJ-07

+1, just measured the curved body section on the top of mine: ~9.4mm :eek:
06-11-2009, 07:53 AM
Mech0z

My Lian Li V2110 has 2mm thick and that was a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: cutting through with my dremmel and its plenty thick to keep it stable. So I would say 2mm thick the most!
06-11-2009, 08:19 AM
DeathWalking

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Originally Posted by Mech0z

My Lian Li V2110 has 2mm thick and that was a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: cutting through with my dremmel and its plenty thick to keep it stable. So I would say 2mm thick the most!

Yea, 2mm alu is the most you would need. I think 1.5 should be enough, but you might need 2. 1mm is way too thin, methinks, for a case of this size.
06-11-2009, 08:31 AM
Extigy

not sure you guys realise the price of aluminium... you can get 2000mm 2000mm 2mm sheets for £50....... its not THAT expensive. This case was always going to be in the £250-£350 region, its a larger tj07, thinking this was ever going to be a cheap case is just silly!
06-11-2009, 09:23 AM
ryan92084

any chance of some new fully installed sketchups (like the one in your avatar) ?

nothing too complicated i'm just trying to wrap my brain around the dimensions of all the compartments.
06-11-2009, 11:03 AM
Brodholm

I'm thinking 2mm on my chassis I'm building. Thicker side panels gives more structure to the case and also creates less vibrations and shuts in sound much better.
06-11-2009, 11:33 AM
neo_rtr

Very nice work, I like the design and the posibilities the design offers.

I would like to have a 120.3 and 120.4 configuration & a long PCU. example 200mm(L)x160mm(W)x86mm(H) is for a W0133 or 220mm(L) for example

You say there will be space. Thanks
06-11-2009, 11:36 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

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Originally Posted by Brodholm

I'm thinking 2mm on my chassis I'm building. Thicker side panels gives more structure to the case and also creates less vibrations and shuts in sound much better.

2mm is nice, but as mech said its a total pain in the ass to cut! Cutting one of my v series side panels I killed 2 $20 rotozip bits :\ you need a coolant feed to properly work with it.
06-11-2009, 02:02 PM
Extigy

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

2mm is nice, but as mech said its a total pain in the ass to cut! Cutting one of my v series side panels I killed 2 $20 rotozip bits :\ you need a coolant feed to properly work with it.

If you are building a case from scratch, you would be foolish not to get the panels laser/water jet cut, unless you already have the necessary equipment, especially if you can provide drawings in a .dwf or .dxf format which can be fed directly into a laser/waterjet cutter. If you don't mind waiting you can get it even cheaper - i got a rad cut out and a custom made motherboard backplate cut from 1.5mm ally for £12
06-11-2009, 02:20 PM
Mech0z

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

2mm is nice, but as mech said its a total pain in the ass to cut! Cutting one of my v series side panels I killed 2 $20 rotozip bits :\ you need a coolant feed to properly work with it.

I used quiet a bit of heads to do http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=224805 but I am very pleased with the result now its not a heat insulator :yepp: Now I just need some water at some point in the bottem compartment^^

http://imageload.dk/files/fdb0759b3f...f67ddd67c4.jpg
06-12-2009, 12:16 AM
Mick64

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Originally Posted by ryan92084

any chance of some new fully installed sketchups (like the one in your avatar) ?

nothing too complicated i'm just trying to wrap my brain around the dimensions of all the compartments.

I'll see what I can do.....
06-12-2009, 03:33 AM
Mick64

Got bored again! :rofl: Must admit, a couple of these are a bit OTT, but they are only renders. :rolleyes:

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-78.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-79.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-80.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-81.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-82.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-84.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-83.jpg
06-12-2009, 04:07 AM
SoulsCollective

I actually really like the white exterior, black interior render.
06-12-2009, 04:18 AM
dingdong555

White + Black and Black + White are HAWT!
06-12-2009, 04:56 AM
dreamaxx

Loving purple and black :)
06-12-2009, 05:03 AM
dreamaxx

I have a great name for this case.

Call it Pegasus!
06-12-2009, 08:57 AM
dsumanik

Take some credit...

Call it the slick mick
06-12-2009, 09:29 AM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick64

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-81.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Mick, I don't know how much more you can tweak or perfect this without hitting that line of "Ooopps, too far".

Even though they are only renders, I think you just reached that point.:rofl: I'm really digging the orange/black one though.
06-12-2009, 10:10 AM
neo_rtr

Do you think is possible to have someone make a prototype?
06-12-2009, 10:57 AM
Cptn Vortex

Do a Harlequin! http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...fharlequin.jpg
06-12-2009, 11:53 AM
Mick64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Even though they are only renders, I think you just reached that point.:rofl: I'm really digging the orange/black one though.

Thought you might like that one Waterlogged! Doesn't the purple / blue one take your fancy? :rofl:
06-12-2009, 12:06 PM
kinghong1970

damn, now i need to go git me some skittles!

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