yes, without a vcore mod i come only to 236FSB
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yes, without a vcore mod i come only to 236FSB
OMG.... when im home .. first thing i do is vmod
hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
i have probably missed sth, could anybody provide a link to where voltmod was published, thx.
I hope this might solve the problem ;) Maybe just some chips doesn't scale aswell as some during low volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
Maybe VCCA pin/s are connected direct to VCore pins.....There was such thing before on a mobo....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
EDIT: This might be a bit bad coz if we need to force VCCA more than VCore, that would be impossible..... :(
Yep-- that is why I still cannot hold of AOpen M/B.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Good thing is LN2 is a way cheaper here than Tokyo-- but components are outrageously expensive:D
Fredyama San how come Tarosa has different settings for RMS in memset?
Thank You
Tim
could the problem be similar to the issue with the ic7maxQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
with the vtt dropping off as u increased the dim voltage ?
No......If they are short circuited (VCCA and VCore) they are the same....Thing is that if CPU doesn't like more VCore, you can't help it.......:(Quote:
Originally Posted by ibby
rightQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Do you have any other ideas ?
Only thing is the devider CPU:Ram.....Can someone test by booting at 200 or over and see if he can put a 1:1 devider?.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ibby
only 3:4 & 3:5Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
In Yonah Datasheet VCCA should be 1,5V (1,425-1,575).Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
The VCCA Pin is on an outer Pin line, so it should not be difficult to measure.
VCORE is 1,3V
This is like pron:) I am heading to the post office right now to mail the second one out.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9...06large5lq.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8...07large8gw.jpg
heheheh njkid....i like the towels behind the nice boxes ;);)
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Thanks Tim for your pointing out this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
For Dual Channel, the value in Channel A & B must be set idential according to FELIX, a superb author of this tweaker...
I will ask him whether he really set for PI run as shown or not.
Thank you very much Fredyama San. I found it really interesting that they were set differently as I thought dual channel ram should have the exact same settings. I am looking forward to Tarosa's answer and am amazed how strong he has come back and hit the top since being out of oc'ing for 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Tim
I think i know why.
If he uses the newest version of felix, its kinda bugged. (i have this) when setting A it also changes B (in the new version) but it only changes A when exiting the tweaker. i allready told felix this. I sure know he will look at this.
if not. i never wrote something :P
Ok hipro, i get it.. this could be really IT i think.
can you make a clearance on what vcca really does.
so i can ask to my contact if the vcca is connected to vcore.
ok.. so if the vcca is connected to vcore. and we raise the vcore verry high on lets say cascade/ln2 we get the same when setting a to high vcca on dothan and kills youre cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
i must be the first guy did vcoremod, but no gain...
cause the chip?maybe
yep, everything hits the shops so much later than evrywhere else and then its like 30% more than evrywhere else :(Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Graphics card prices seem to be getting down to decent levels these days though..
I doubt it would raise it high enough to kill the cpu, people only killed dothans with > 3v VCCA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
what's stock Yonah voltage? I dunno.. well lets say stock is 1.3v and stock VCCA is 1.5v.
If they are directly proportional, to get over 3Vcca, you would need to effectively double Vcore to 2.6v, which aint gonna happen :p:
yeh, was thinking that also.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
maybe Vcca is pumped as some kind of divider to Vcore (some resistance between Vcca pins and Vcore pins), so as you increase Vcore, Vcca increases proportionately.
Hmm, for my exam I have to use celeron 330 + IC7 mobo, hope to get some featback from ya guys @ featbackform (some questions about a tutorial Im making, which is the product... - A LN2 tutorial, the subject is "communication"), mobo's on its way, thanks to a very kind member =)
Vcore mod didnt help... @ 1.64v...
im out really....... been up all night for this.. and still no go..
im going to get some gasoline and matches... if you see smoke.. dont call 911!!!
:slapass: :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by most german shops
ok this is seriously becoming bs, I am tired of waiting already
ocwear told me that boards will be there on 18.04 but now I highly doubt it
I totally agree, first skipping all dates and know the FSB-barrier...
That pisses me really of! :mad:
I woulnd´t bet on the 18th of April, but still hoping!
I somebody from Asian is willing to sell a board, please PM me...;)
Trend (in Europe) had reçived these first yesterday...Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
a couple of shops in germany got few boards, 5 or so, and those probably got people sleeping in front of the shops.
I gues it's waiting for the ECS board to arrive now....Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
Hello Tim-san,Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
Got a response from Tarosa:
He set 15.6us for RMS in Channel A this time so must be a bug as posted by Waus-mod.
He is surely amazing, isn't he? :eek:
Old timers like him have so much experience in and many skills of extreme OC, which are far beyond our imagination;)
Cheers,
Fred
It is possible to change this Thread only in the XS Yonah competition !!! ? The other results from the little Yonah it's very interesting, too or we make a new/other thread on to get more Information about fsb-wall and stepping.
this has been asked before.. im sorry it stays initial t2600ES competition..
ok. im out of the contest. Im going to sell my yonah and return the board.
i still wil update.
conroe time.
That is just crap Waus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
Conroe is gonna take a while :stick:
Carefull Waus,
this is just the beginning man.
This FSB thingie will be solved, don't forget you were one of the first ones with a mobo.
If you do not like to see/read a dry run of the competition and our records comparison with those of non-participants, you are welcome to just click the first page summary;)Quote:
Originally Posted by forumer
The FSB limit is most likely CPU "failure" so a board update might not be the answer.
hi forumerQuote:
Originally Posted by forumer
may be ..the place to go
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=95503
yes, I saw this thread, but the title includes CF: air cooled Core Duo T2500 + Crossfire . It doesn't matter and I will post my results in this Thread click ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by mine
Now I wish good Luck with your small T2600 :stick: .
just create a new Yonah+Merom discussion thread and that's it.....everyone will flock there :)
Intel Yonah/Merom ** results & discussion -thread **Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
@Waus-mod
I know you've been busy but please register KUBOKUBO's result at the front page.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1375
Thanks:)
Done fred :D
Waus-mod, since ill be getting a mobo for my yonah, hey include me aswell but thats 1 intimideting list :eek:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
:D :rofl:
I know you will get a board, mod it and all problems will be gone :D :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
It is so boring to wait for that damn board
héhé, I'm still waiting my mobo :)
mine
mobo no mod, with Tower 120
i have something better but forget to upload it ... XD update tonight... 3069 dual 32M about 20m7s
pic during dual 32M
http://iamxtreme.com/cpu/t2600/aopen_yonah_002.JPG
pic during single 32M
http://iamxtreme.com/cpu/t2600/aopen_yonah_008.JPG
Thanks for the Quick answer Fredyama-san. I can only imagine the old time oc'ers knowledge as I can tell it is way ahead of mine. Can't wait to see you putting up some Yonah numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Tim
i think i can be added to the list with my new baby:D
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/389...arge0fw.th.jpg
now i'm waiting for a damned Aopen board and then start the game:D
ps this cpu is pretested to 3ghz@air so...i hope:cool:
Which is it? t2600?
The search for golden Yonah begins:)
yes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
T2600 ES :D
You have to hope for one without fsb limit then Fab.
which board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabius88
and who by ?
yes..i really hope that:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
well, come monday i will have my aopen board and I can get started. I hope I dont get stuck at 240fsb :(
By OMEGA
Now FSB up to 284.2MHz with AOpen
LN2 cooling and his setup details will be followed later.
Comment from OMEGA:
Got only FSB260MHz on air cooling but was very surprised it went up +24MHz under LN2:D
modPI 1.4 1M: 16.422s @3694.3MHz (FSB284.2MHz x 13) A new WR
http://premium1.uploadit.org/fredyam...s-by-OMEGA.jpg
wow :D haha what a massive result over there.. 284fsb :O
:clap: - congrats to Japan again!
Impressive work, good job!
Congrats to another great result!
very good oc!!!:eek: :banana:
i really want to know the cpu stepping:)
congrats for the new wr:toast:
:toast: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabius88
Omega, hmm, neat score, hmm, I remember back from there when I started OC'ing, Tom Holck, Omega and TAM was top of the dome, ALWAYS :) @ VR-zone's database
Super Result! Congrats.
Congrats omega! :toast:
Denny> Can you run single 32m and dual 32m at the same clocks? Looks like loading both threads really hurts performance. 80mhz can't make an almost 3 minute difference.
Yes it takes performance since the L2 cache is shared between the two cores afireinside ;)
By New Beetle under LN2
Comment:
No matter what I did, FSB was stuck at the same 262.2MHz of DICE the other day.
After struggling sometime, finally got one notch up to get a bit better results.
(Set up)
M/B：AOpen i975Xa-YDG Vmod / BIOS：R1.02
M/B Bed：「V-TEC ARC Bed Rev.3.3」
CPU：Core Duo T2600 / QHJJ ES 7530A497 from FCG
CPU Cooling：「Kuri Pro２」+ LN2
Chipset Cooling：Normal
Memory：CORSAIR 5400C4 512MB x2 / CL4-3-2-8
VGA：ATI XPERT 98 PCI 8MB
HDD：IBM-DTLA-307030 / UDMA 5 (ATA100)
PowerSuplly：Zippy-460WS #2 （3.3V Rail Mod）
Vcore：1.65V/ Vddr：2.15V/ Vio：3.50V
OS：Windows Server 2003
Remarks：LN2 Cooling / FSB240MHz@Boot / Graphite sheet
modPI 1.5 XS 1M: 17.578s @3433.8MHz (FSB264.1MHz x 13)
http://premium1.uploadit.org/fredyam...New-Beetle.png
modPI 1.5 XS 8M: 3m22.734s @3420.7MHz (FSB263.1MHz x 13)
http://premium1.uploadit.org/fredyam...New-Beetle.png
nice results so far.
From OMEGA
Thank you so much all:toast:
Actually I got a slightly better 16.370s of 1M @the same FSB284 at my next LN2 session.
Without taking SS, right after set FSB to 288 for aiming 15's second PI but the system freezed immidiately...
Oh well, hope I can break into 15's second next time.
(Set up)
M/B: AOpen i975Xa-YDG
CPU: T2600 ES QKHK
CPU Cooling: LN2
Copper Pot: OMEGA SpecialⅡ
Memory: Team Xtreem PC2-6400 512MB x2
VGA: MilleⅡ PCI
HDD: Maxtor D740X-6L
Power Supply: Zippy-460SATA
Vcore: 1.59V, Vddr2: 2.40V, Vnb: 1.675V, Vio: 3.56V
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 4-3-2-8 3:5
Grease: Ceramique by Arctic Silver
FSB240MHz@boot
16.370s isn't bad at all! You guys are truly the top of the world when it comes to OC! I bow for you masters!
By CAL930
Amazing 17.975s on air result with his third T2600 ES:slobber:
Yep, there surely is a golden chip-- any problem on M/B is very doubtful;)
(Set up)
M/B: AOpen i975Xa-YDG#1 Vmod
CPU: T2600ES
CPU Cooling: Air cooling XP-90C Delta×2 Room temp 20degC
Memory: CORSAIR PC2-5400C4 V5.2 512MBx2
VGA: RIVA TNT2 PCI16MB
HDD: S-ATA HDS728080PLA380
Power Supply: Zippy-500GE
Vcore: 1.56V, Vdimm: 2.46V
OS: Windows XPsp1
MEM: 4-3-2-4 3:5
modPI 1.5 XS 1M: 17.985s @3356.7MHz (258.2 x 13)
http://cal930.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/c..._1m_17_985.png
modPI 1.5 XS 8M: 3m26.657s @3315.3MHz (255.0 x 13)
http://cal930.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/c..._3m26_657s.png
See his set up picture here
Under LN2 soon:D
damn nice results from Japan
is anyone having the FSB issues that these guys are having.......
Incredible score on air cal!! :toast:
Hey.....What's going on here?......:D
Way to go Team Japan.......:toast:
Ok thanks to s7e9h3n my volt mods are done. I am not very good at doing this so I mailed it to him to help me out:) Once he gets my T2600 on Tuesday he will throw it under his autocascade. Here is some eyecandy for you guys.. Also thank you to hicookie for posting these volt mods cuz they were very helpful!
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7953/pots3dn5rs.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8550/vcore3kp1an.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2673/chipset1ul3yt.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/697/vdimm4qv5rc.jpg
I think kyosen was the one showed us how to do all Vmods, wasn't he?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
i have a question, what is max voltage for Northbridge with watercooling?
not exactly, u can view ths thread from cover to cover．．．．i don't want to be the hero or something..Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
but, need thanks to kyosen, he first pointed the cpu vocre pin fb.:D
besides,we'r waitting someone's "ultimate mod":toast:
george is yet to get his one ;) :D can't wait to see the ultimate 300MHz FSB go down :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
*** News Flash ***Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Hes got one going to him
:toast:
wow!
New beetle has the SAME step as mine cpu (QHJJ ES 7530A497):banana:
so i can hope into an high fsb:woot: :woot: :woot:
pls waus add me to the list of owners of this cpu:stick: :D
bye!!
can this Stepping knows? me Aopen is shipping to me..
T2400ES
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...T2400ES-1.jpeg
qinz > i havnt seen that stepping before
where did you get the cpu from ?
Damn, just been away for the weekend missing al those nice result's.
Where is the FSB problem? dead and burried already?
have a :toast: getting those impressive results!
FSB is still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extera
indicates cpu releated.
i've talked with my friend here in italy and he said me that the problem is the vcca@only 1,5V so modding it is possible to go up with the fsb:)
who already did this mod should try it cuz my friend is a little genius with mods & co:D
That Cal930 result is excellent on air ..wonder what will happen on LN2 ..wall or not ? Good luck Cal930.
Is this just a case of the cpu having dual cores and one holding back the other so to get a golden cpu you need to be lucky enough to have one with two good cores ? Maybe Intel Yonah is just more fussy for this than AMD or P4 dual ?
Regards
Andy
Vcca mod is already done, please refer the URL below:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...84#post1394784
Now I replace 20ohm-Fixed + 100ohm-VR with VR200ohm-VR.
It depends on Vio how higher you can get the Vcca.
Vio~3.68V is needed for Vcca=2.5V.
I tried Vcca upto 2.5V, but FSB gain is 5~6MHz.
Still FSB is limited by CPU, unfortunately.
Anyway, I've got a new T2600ES(stepping:8).
It's a incredible one...3.4G over with water-cooling:)
Vcore: 1.629V, Vcca=2.465V
17.422s @ 3447.46=265.19x13
<img src="http://222.151.144.54/c-board/file/17.422s_T2600ES_3447.46.png">
3m19.781s @ 3402.07=261.70x13
<img src="http://222.151.144.54/c-board/file/3m19.781s_T2600ES_3402.07.png">
Awesome cpu if that is on water :) So VCCA mod is useless really?
Cooling chipset doesnt boost FSB neither?
Hmm, and Intel + unlocking multi = no go :(
Guess we have to wait 'till Hipro5 makes some magic =)
Or good PF23 Oc results, if it's m/b related of course.
I hope to have one soon to do some FSB tests with a T2300.
Sorry kyosen I didnt mean to leave you out:) Thanks! Great clocks everyone please keep em coming.
Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
I just got a bunch of T2300's, all different weeks ready to test, along with lots of ES
602 607 610 so far, I havent looked at the rest. All are SL8VR, so we shall see if things are getting better over at intel.
I get my mobo tomorrow, so it should be an interesting day.
I got one similar stepping QINY from T2500ES,Quote:
Originally Posted by Staucher
and its fsb stuck at 211:(
http://raxkingkong.myweb.hinet.net/mobile/yonah01.JPG
Yah I didn't get any boost from the VCCA mod either. :( Still max @ 225.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi