:) answered my own question
EDIT: nvm again just read what it does.
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:) answered my own question
EDIT: nvm again just read what it does.
depends @ ur cooling. water ?? Air ?? phase ?? each chip needs different vcore. u have to sort it out by urself, but some chips r stable @ around 1,41 vcore, others need 1,45 up to 1,5 vcore.. as said.. depends @ ur chips and need to be tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonsterDK
but with bsod 101 it seems that it needs more vcore.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
I'm on water.. so 1.5v is max recommended?
i would not recommend to use 1,5v for 24/7 on a 32nm chip on water. intel specs say max is 1,35v i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonsterDK
All depends on if you can afford another chip quite easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonsterDK
Checked thru manual, Spread spectrum:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
ENABLED to enhance BCLK OCbility
DISABLED to enhanced EMI control
Enabling it will reduce my vcore by 0.02v
weird i activate it and i dont see any dif...what bios are u on ?Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
Spread spectrum, is normally something every OC guide tells you do disable!
On my MIVEZ, it says the exact opposite of above, i.e. disable (in actual bios hint) to OC BLK which you are not going to clock much higher due to IGPU bus speed!
There sure seems a lack of sensors in these Mobos assuming "Motherboard Temp" is same old sensor that basically is temp of ambient near CMOS area, where is the Chipset (PCH) and VRM temps?
I had SB/NB/VRM/CPU Socket temps on my MFII
bios is 403.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
i enable the CPU spread spectrum in AI.
in bios, it is disabled and manual VRM set to 550 extreme.
SpreadSpectrum is sometings suposed to reduce EMI radiation. Quite useless IMO.
I need help guys... just started setting things up today, and without windows even being installed i got cpu over-temperature error (87C from cold boot). I thought it was just a weird bios glitch so i disbable cpu temp monitoring and install windows, however when i check realtemp.. i'm idling in the high 50s to 60s which isn't normal since i have everything @ stock including all the energy saving features. I get out my dmm and measure voltage from cold boot to windows loaded... it goes from initial 1.1v to 1.22v which is normal, i also check with a dmm load voltage which is 1.24v. I don't get what could be the problem? I'm on 1850 currently... i need help :(
EDIT: when i did a stress test... i got all the way up to 98C :(
i have no idea what the problem is :(
here is a ss with it extracting ai suite which places very minimal load... ambient is 5C (opened window) since it was getting way to hot without lower ambient
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3334/weirdw.png
:shrug:
Update... kept hsf the same and flashed the bios to 1598. it's now showing normal temps. :shrug:
works for me
Anyone on here tryed 1902 bios how does it compare with the rest!
I just updated to 1850 and its working fine.
4500mhz
1.35v bios, 75% LLC
1.344v under load. LinX
I didnt had time to see if my chip can go lower for 4.5ghz, have it for ~4days and time is something i dont have. This new bios is mostly for my Ram cause the one that came with it dont liked my 1.35v 1600mhz CAS8 ram. Ill try to tweak my Ram as for now.
me and sucked badQuote:
Originally Posted by bro20000
yes its one of the best along with 1409Quote:
Originally Posted by Boulard83
Wont boot with any lower than 1.40v on the memory. Nothing really bad but well ... this mem is on the QVL. Its better than my stock bios that didnt boot under 1.50v on memory.
Gskill ECO 2x4gb 8-8-8-24 @ 1600mhz with 1.40v
not if you like to bench 01:)Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
1902 i bad bios,best bios 1409,next is 1850
only difference between these two is the biosQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
1850
http://i.imgur.com/Pxqte.png
1902
http://i.imgur.com/Ox5Iz.png
while I agree that bios 1902 has some issues it does very well with 01, even though I could not recommend it for a 24/7 user
yes i remember now it has something for 3DM01 but for 24/7 i recommend 1409/1805Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
cheers
Serg
1902 bios seem fine for me had no problems running 2600k at 5ghz 1.38Vcore 2166Mhz 6-10-6-27 timing! Seems a really stable bios!
Any idea why I can't change bl:banana::banana::banana::banana: via RC tweakit ( all other settings liek multipliers, voltages,... work ) TurboV works, so it's some soft issue or a thing I overlooked ( I hope ) This happens on 1303 and 1902 bios
Any ideas ??
is anyone using 1598? i'm using it but i haven't used any other bios so i can't compare
not sure if it's good or not
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the mIVe-z but my current soundcard is Fatality PCI so I either get a new one or live with the onboard Realtek... I never used the little SupremeFX PCIe x1 unit from my mIIf P45 'cause the Fatality card sounded better. How is the sound on the mIVe?
Thanks!
Im at 5ghz with 1902
andressergio
you will show your BIOS to 108 blck ?foto
it is newer than 1596, but older than 1902, and all three are 3D01 specific bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
for 24/7 1409 and 1850 are better choices, as I noticed when I was pushing bclk on 1902 I would lose the first set of usb ports, but other than that it is good for benching.
sure mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3175/5600108x52.jpg
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hmm not this foto,from bios ;)
Still running my system at 1.375v 5ghz
have a problem with the latest bioses my setting in aida mem bench dont show up right!
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../5Ghz1375v.png
damn sorry Martin lol i will take and post nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8120/110916230806.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6...0916230831.jpg
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9...0916230903.jpg
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hope are useful for ya
cheers
Serg
ty
is it whit c stat ? on
no i just put C1E and EIST for ma 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
ty
max blck whit this cpu on water is 106 x 50
but whit DICE I can 101 x56
vcore hungry cpu :(
well its a x56 Martin very nice not all have that kind of CPU, i have one x56 its a Costa Rica vcore hunger, this Malay its awesome so good that i only tested that and x56 for some runs and i dont want to punish it moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
Sorry a bit OOT:)
I just got its brother Asus CH5 Formula (preping for AMD FX cpu) and really like it....Easy 2100 7-6-7-20 which is the first time for me. Lol
I have one on the way as well for the same reason. What chip are you running in it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
X4 955...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4951629Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil_Dog
looks good, but u're going to stay longer to watch Pi finish running LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
I meant 2100 7-9-6-20 on AMD 990X:DQuote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
what was that "skew driving voltage" for?
sorry i dont know :(
like an offset?
M4E will support the new Intel 22nm cpus ?
hey mate its for going high on bclkQuote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
thanks andre.. i'm trying for 108 myself.. on my ud7 i ran 106.5blck 24/7... you think 108 24/7 is possible without running into any issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
EDIT: most i can get on this is 105.5 with skew driving voltage @ standard 1.04 and blck skew @ -10 :(
bios 1850
cheers
my UD7 B2 does 107x but never tried for 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
keep trying on the mive
here's some nice guide for ya
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1041
cheers and good luck
Serg
thanks! as i read the guide... i knew what i did wrong, i was just plugging in settings without slowly easing into it. So i did what i had to do with my ud7... went up in blck by .2 each time, reboot do the same thing until i got to 106.5. Old ud7 would revert back to old bios settings from cold boot though... hopefully this doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Used skew driving voltage: 993
blck skew: -12
Will keep trying to push it.
Appreciate your help andre :)
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/296/blckmive.png
@ badatgames
here is an older screen shot of 107.6 with voltages that might help you, it is not really efficient as I was just trying to see if the mems would run 2000 6-8-6.
http://i.imgur.com/bPZqk.png
that was on water and with no tweaking of any of the bclk skews / driving voltages, so I imagine 108ish is doable with some work, at least on that chip.
great man glad it worked :)Quote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
Guys I just got my hands on this board and a 2600K . I have a couple of questions which bios is best for the highest 24/7 stable overclock? also I have noticed two four pin molex headers on the board but on the Quick Start it does not tell you to attach anything to these headers?? Are you guys attaching 4 pin molex connectors to them or not?? and what are they for ? Do they improve stability etc??? Thanks for your help.
hey pazza should be good you read some pages back plenty of nice infoQuote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
extra powa not needed those 2 molex i tested all and do notha if you have a strong PSU
as for best bios also already mentioned 1409 / 1805
cheers and enjoy it
Sergio
first two ram slots died :(:upset:
the second two work, but don't belong to the same channel. stupid condensation!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:
anyway it will magically work again if i leave it alone for a while?
How do i explain this to asus :(
let it dry thoroughly and try again, it is probably ok just wet.Quote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
Thanks for your help Sergio. I have a Corsair 1200 so should be fine without those molex.
yeah i have the same PSU so no need those horrible molexQuote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
cheers !
Sergio
put it in the sun for a while and use air compressor, are u runing 24/7 on xtreme cooling ?Quote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
I'm still having a bad time trying to understand this...
I used an "old" 4Gb 16000CL6 PI kit, at 2133 7-10-7-27 1.65v because I thought they were faster then the 8Gb kits... but...
4Gb 2133 7-10-7-27 1T
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9823/4gb.jpg
8Gb 2133 9-11-9-28 1T
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2610/8gbx.jpg
My question is WTF...
Load voltages are ~1.392v
it is completely dry now, it was always dry, at least it seemed to me... still the same thing :(Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
yes... but i do turn it off at night. I let it dry in my room for a day, and i just came back to it today... still the same thing. Q LED DRAM lights up and i get a black screen with post code 38. Only works with channel B1 and B2 but they are different channels so it will only run in single channel mode. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Called up asus for rma, but sticker isn't on the darn motherboard and only on the box. (i don't think i should have told them that) so now the customer support guy needs to ask his supervisor on what he can do. Already has been rma'ed before by it's previous owner, i was willing to pay for them to fix it, but they might not because there is no sticker on the board :shakes:
Seems like i am sol
What sticker Bad?
Did you try the usual battery out, reflash bios etc.?
sorry to hear mateQuote:
Originally Posted by badatgames18
i dont understand exactly what u mean but SB is faster with every mem and timmings dont affect as beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
i use 16GB at 2133 9-11-9-27 1T and its faster than 8GB at SAME timmings lol
cheers
Sergio
I know this is being lazy but Sergio or one of the guys with a Linq stable 5ghz+ clock post their bios settings for me to start tweaking from please!!! lol
no problem friendQuote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
here are for you
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1...0916112245.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5...0916112301.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1...0916112313.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1...0916112324.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4...0916112350.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1...0916112425.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3...0916112434.jpg
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and some stabilty tests
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/103/5ghzblend1.png
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/993...ot21339119.png
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6484/3dm11vgarod2.jpg
games i play all days DOWNSAMPLED to 2560+ and 3040+ this forces your system like any test
this are only 3 of 20 games i play downsampled
hard reset 2560+ all maxed out
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8...0914220435.jpg
homefront 2560+ all maxed out
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1...0820120917.png
Medal Of Honor 2560+ all maxed out
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/218...0904214040.png
F1 2011 2560+ all maxed out
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3...2133653251.jpg
BC2 Vietnam again maxed out and downsapled
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/862...1218153919.jpg
cheers hope you got all the info u need
Sergio
Mine 's very near andressergio's I use a slight less vCore ( 1.415v for 4C8T and 1.385v for 4C4T ) and a bit more vccIO 1.1125v, I also tend to use vPLL at 1.65v.
5.1Ghz screen
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3152/5100lowv.jpg
5Ghz 4Gb
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/732/testap.jpg
I've a lot more of screens... I just need to find them ><
Thanks for this mate much appreciated. I will test these settings out tommorrow and tweak. I am looking for linx stable do you ever use linx?? I have 3x 580's for Tri so the performance should be great in games.
You see any improvement in clocks / Temps with HT off?
HT off will give you slight less temps ( you can also diminish the volts a bit with it off ). THe difference wont be as near as it was with 1366, here it will be 1/2ºC and something like -0.025v. For LinX see my post, but be aware there aint a lot of CPU's doing that :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
Thanks stoned I will start at these settings you guys are suggesting!!! did you need new Linq definitions for those tests mate. My linx works great on Gulftown but have not tried on Sandy yet.
Download new linx from the linx 4.5Ghz stable club [1st page, 1st post] and it'll be all good :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
Yeah I just found that myself. The weirdest thing was 7-10-7 getting pwn by 9-11-9...Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
thats a very nice chippo man ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
There is not alot of CPU's linx stable at 5ghz?? evan with higher Vcore?? May as well leave HT on then!! for that small trade off!!
would you guys like to see a physical review of the gene-z? like my GB reviews? i have a gene-z i was thinking about doing a physical review on it and posting it. would anyone be interested? or is it a waste of my time?
do it plz your reviews are awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
agree to that. ++1Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
If doing ripple test on our boards be sure to use a scope and probe up to the task. Your USB scope isn't - as someone who claims to have a minor in EE you should know this. Other than that, review away. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
"physical" review to stike again. Ohnooes :)
keep awesomeness on GBT :)
x10 probe not x1. Also most of your ripple screenshots appear to be noise instead of ripple. Trigger the scope on the switching frequency of the circuit being measured and I think you will find this to be the case.
HELP!!!! hi guys whatever I set as the multi in bios when I get into windows the BLK has dropped accordingly so my 2600K never goes 3.4 ghz. CPU-Z reports this. I have flashed to 1850 as many suggest thats the best option but still the base clock drops evan when running something intensive its 3.4??? what am I missing to get BLK to stay at 100??
Use the latest version of CPU-Z and re-check (do not use any other software at the same time that polls the SM bus). If the issue is still happeneing, save UEFI screenshots to a FAT32 formatted flash drive, convert the screenshots to jpeg and upload them here so we can see your settings. Only other thing I can think of is that you may need to use BIOS flashback (try using the other BIOS chip on the board first and see if the issue persists).Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
-Raja
Hi yeah it was the version of CPU Z thanks!!! Just another quick question which version of Linx do people use for this CPU?? or which definitions as my GFLOPs are well out when testing.
Use the latest version and make sure you on using service pack 1 with Win 7.
-Raja
WHich version is this I think I am but its not giving correct results. Do you have a link????
Set it to use all memory, use Google to find out the rest.
-Raja
Here is the link to the latest version taken directly from the LinX Thread:
LinX (0.64) 10.3.6.010
http://www.mediafire.com/?cict9u8jki7wps2
haha you crack me up TiN_Quote:
Originally Posted by TiN_
Quote:
Originally Posted by TiN_
lol nice one:up:
gigabut reviewer to review a gene-z lol
Guys I just used that version of linx testing with 8 threads at 5ghz and only got very low GFolps. The prodessor is not throttling as I had CPU-Z etc open all the time. How do you guys get the tests done so fast and with such high numbers?
Whats the latest bios? 1902? Haven't seen a new one in quite awhile
do you have SP1 installed?Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
1902 if you are benching 01, 1850 for 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence
Hi,
No I dont have SP1 installed. Does this make a diffreence to Linx???
yes SP1 eats more volts and also scores more on GFlops as its has a code optimization for the use on memQuote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
yeah agree on that l0udQuote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
i wasn't going to use the scope, and i can get enough info to see the difference between different VRMs.
I know 10x not 1x, but then i don't get down to a fine enough resolution(like 10mv), but i do have two probes, one set and calibrated on 10x and one at 1x. I know what i am seeing is mostly noise as well, ripple alone doesn't look so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up lol. But i am using bandwidth limit at 10mhz. I only use the scope to compare, not to say either way.
BTW Tin, i got close to your results, maybe a bit more(~10mv) ripple with the UD7, I am guessing it was caused by noise, as my scope seems to love toe pick it up.
Hey Tin would it make you feel better if i put my tektronics hand-sanitizer pen next to my scope, would it make you feel better? lol
I was only going to do a physical review, i wasn't going to do benchmarks. Now IDk if I should do it, i have already messed with the board I actually like it. Only thing i don't like is how I don't have to click to select somthing in the BIOS, is there a way i can turn that off? Like turn off the hover=click feature?
As a pretense Raja, i am not looking to review your boards like i do GB, I just figured id review this board if i have time, i don't just review b/c i am sent products, i enjoy doing them. I am also not going to go rip your board apart and start talking :banana::banana::banana::banana:, I might not necessarily love your boss, but I do like your boards.
P.S. i think itd be nice to add content to my site as well.
honestly I commend your extreme detail on all of your physical reviews, you seem to cover a plethora of the actual components that actually make up the motherboard and what they actually do etc. . ., however I don't think a benchmark focused review would necessarily be a bad thing in this case, especially since the Gene Z is very competitive on the 3D level to the Giga boards, just my 2c.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
yea i mean what would i compare it to that doesn't have NF200? i don't just have the whole GB lineup sitting right here lol.
The fact that you LOL when caught out shows how nonchalant you are about being honest unless pushed to do so :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Good, I'd rather if someone was posting ripple measurements that they were actually ripple measurements and not spurious noise. As I've said before, readers think you are doing something great, but if its not technically correct its a case of the blind leading the blind and those poor guys don't have a clue what they are seeing is wrong. It bothers me because it spreads misinformation as fact, undoing the work that people put into eradicating myths in the first place.
I no longer comment on your GBT reviews as I now work for a vendor. If however it's an ASUS review, and stuff gets posted up that is technically incorrect I will interject - and its better for you if that does not happen. Keep it real and review away. :)
Just compare clock per clock with what you have at your lab mate. From my personal point of view this board is the best all round board now... With the newer 01 biosses (thanks to eVGA :p --> I will get shot at for saying this probably) GB lost their only advantage. Clock per clock this is the most efficient board... Bclocking action is solid, voltage regulation is pretty spot on... a benchers delight...Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
For 24/7 users there are cheaper alternatives....
This is a slight fix for the error on 3dmark 2001 se when you try to view the results score. I also posted it at hwbot in the thread there.
You can double click the "details.txt"in the "C:\Documents and Settings\name\Local Settings\Temp" folder. and it will just open with notepad. You could also make a short cut of the "details.txt" to your desktop. And then just double click the "details.txt". As it would be faster then manually browsing and opening it. I haven't had time to test to see but when you restart 3dmark 2001se, it should clear the old details.txt results.
If it doesn't work like that. I wrote a quick .bat file to delete the file for you.
Paste this in notepad and change the your name to the correct folder name.Quote:
DEL "C:\Documents and Settings\your name here\Local Settings\Temp\details.txt"
Once you do, name it and save it as the 3dmark 2001 clear text.bat.
This will then clear the results after you view them. But in order to still use the shortcut "details.txt", you will have to click the "show details" on the benchmark. This works great if you are going to just leave open 3dmark 2001se and keep doing test. As this is what will generate the new details.txt to be able to read it using the details.txt shortcut.
It is a 3 stepped progress but it does work. Perhaps i will try to do a vbscript tonight. Or someone else might be able to do it faster. As i just wanted a fast fix. Thanks
Is this in reference to the MIVE/(Z) or the Max IV Gene Z?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
P67 M4E, haven't tested the Gene Z yet sir...
i only have the gene-z. Its a cool board tho, pretty cheap and that is good about it.