Forward: official GIGA 965P-S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 beta BIOS

Hmmm... I flashed to that "beta f8 final" that was early released too... Could be what's holding me back... I offically eliminated my cpu and ram as the causes to my lack in OC, I tested my PQI Turbo (Elipida chips, aka value chips) at real tight timings and they ran 3-4-3-8 @ 415mhz 2.1v... (512mb sticks...) Yea, the 'value' sticks are doing a good impersonation of top of the line D9 micron sticks.

I'm gonna d/l the new @bios and the non-beta final version of the F8 bios (the real one that's on the gb site, not the one that was posted in the thread the day they came out...)

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Date on the bios bingo posted and the date on the Bios on the GB website is different. Bingo's is dated 12/20/06, GB's one is dated 12/19/06...

Hmm, did you do a md5sum on the two bioses? I find that a lot of times, the bioses will be released on the website and backdated (lol options???)

This was the case for an albatron motherboard I had a few years ago. I got an email from their tech people with a new bios. I checked the website the same day I got the email with the attachment and nothing. Then a week later, I check the website again and there's the bios I got a week in advance. The date on the website was from the same day I got the email. Tricky stuff.


Hmmm load optimize defaults. I never did that. Though I did clear the cmos pretty well, so I presume it should be similar.

update: Looks like the vcore being different with the bios update was totally placebo. I did more testing, and with the next step up in vcore, I'm seeing pretty much the same thing in cpuz, speedfan, and et5. The forced cold boot everytime is kind of annoying though. Reminds me of the p5l-mx when fsb goes above a certain point.

I just compared the two bios (the one bingo posted and the one on the GB site and they are the same bios.) There's gotta be something else that MadMikeSS did...

Wow I'm surprised I was able to squeeze in that last edit. As soon as I hit the submit button, I got a bsod I'd never seen before. PFN_LIST_CORRUPT or something like that. That was when I was at the vcore setting between 1.3625 and 1.3750 (both used to be known goods, so I tried the middle one). I also had sata native ide in legacy ide mode. So I went in the bios and changed it back to sata native ide mode but kept the vcore. Booted into windows but as soon as I logged on, it page fault in non paged area on me. So now I'm at 1.375v and sata legacy ide mode. Something seems weird with that middle vcore setting it seems. Not sure how stable it is currently at a known known known good of 1.375v though. I wanted to squeeze in this post before I started stressing again.

edit: hmm looks like vcore is a little different. Back with F7, if I set to 1.375v in the bios, it'd idle at 1.328 and load at 1.296-1.312 with most of the time having it sit at 1.296. Now it's more or less identical, except it's showing that it's sitting at 1.312 almost all the time with only the occasional dip to 1.296. No difference, as long as I can overnight this thing again.

Well Ive later started having issues and the OC was lost on a reboot a few hours later. So I guess the cold boot issue isnt really resolved.

PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Is your memory and google would have told you that if you'd looked.

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Originally Posted by Hutch

I just compared the two bios (the one bingo posted and the one on the GB site and they are the same bios.) There's gotta be something else that MadMikeSS did...

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I did nothing else but reflash the bios back to F8, shut down and reset the cmos via jumper, same as I did when I tried the final F8 that bingo posted. For some reason had nothing but trouble with it. Same settings as I'm using right now I couldn't even post 490x7. I had a hard time just booting 480x7. I had to increase vcore to do so. Now I'm getting the same overclock as with the S3 bios. Like I said, I did nothing different than when I flashed F8 the first time.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Is your memory and google would have told you that if you'd looked.

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Yeah, I did look and see that. I posted here before I did anything else though just to keep everyone updated on changes I had when going to F8 from F7.

Could "memory" error possibly be related to L1/L2 cache? The reason I ask is because I bumped up vcore to 1.375v and now it's going stable for 1:42 in orthos so far with no further errors as I had at the lower vcore setting, where I got PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and PAGE FAULT NON PAGED twice in a row (which I see other people having too so ??).

I've tested this ram over 23 hours in orthos at 500mhz 4-4-4-12 without issue, and unless some of the subtiming settings have been changed with f8 over f7 (I didn't touch any of them), I can't see why memory is now suspect (except of course p965 issue)

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I did nothing else but reflash the bios back to F8, shut down and reset the cmos via jumper, same as I didn't when I tried the final F8 that bingo posted. For some reason had nothing but trouble with it. Same settings as I'm using right now I couldn't even post 490x7. I had a hard time just booting 480x7. I had to increase vcore to do so. Now I'm getting the same overclock as with the S3 bios. Like I said, I did nothing different than when I flashed F8 the first time.

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I believe you man, trust me, this board has done some crazy stuff on me too. I didn't do a perfect comparison of the bios, but they were both written at 6:37 p.m on 12/20/06 from what I see (unless I'm making a mistake and actually looking at the exact same bios lol.)

Thats awesome that you've hit such a high fsb on that exact same board as I have (S3, C1.)

You know what, is the usb issue fixed? I'm still using a USB keyboard and mouse (still haven't got around to getting the ps/2 adapters.) I'm hoping this is the issue, as I always spend hours and hours to solve the easiest problems that I completely look by, but I spend shorter time on more complicated problems! :rolleyes:

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I believe you man, trust me, this board has done some crazy stuff on me too. I didn't do a perfect comparison of the bios, but they were both written at 6:37 p.m on 12/20/06 from what I see (unless I'm making a mistake and actually looking at the exact same bios lol.)

Thats awesome that you've hit such a high fsb on that exact same board as I have (S3, C1.)

You know what, is the usb issue fixed? I'm still using a USB keyboard and mouse (still haven't got around to getting the ps/2 adapters.) I'm hoping this is the issue, as I always spend hours and hours to solve the easiest problems that I completely look by, but I spend shorter time on more complicated problems! :rolleyes:

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Which usb issue are you referring to? I have never had an issue with any usb devices with this board yet. I have a G15 keyboard and G7 mouse and a host of other usb devices and all of them work flawlessly, always have. Just curious what issue you are referring to that's all.

I've been having the same problems since I moved from f8i to f8 final.

What's been happening is - the cpu is pretty bad already, or something but the board/cpu seem to be allergic to voltage now. I can run the memory at 800mhz cas 4 like usual if I don't touch the cpu voltage but if I put it up to ~1.55 (terrible I know, this chip is...) then memtest goes crazy or interrupt errors happen.
I've been having memory errors and orthos failing/rebooting all day, partly due to the cpu I know but the problems got weirder since I changed to F8 final, I guess I should go back to f8i and see if anything improves, at this point I'm ready to dump the whole pc.

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Originally Posted by Janne2

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thats with 2.2v, goes 900+ 4-4-4-9 2.2v

Stable up to 1020mhz, 5-5-5-15, 2.3v

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Very nice- i have 4 pieces of exactly same memory dual 2gb kits and no way i can set higher from cl5-5-5-12 ddr800.One other thing- DS3 motherboards have revisions rev.1 and rev.2 and also c1 and c2 subversions or what?Maybe add some b1 and b2 to the soup.Very confiusing.People give info about enable/disable stuff in biosis.About those cpu power regulation options and fast/turbo things?Advanced bios options enable/disable options?What are best?

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I've been having the same problems since I moved from f8i to f8 final.

What's been happening is - the cpu is pretty bad already, or something but the board/cpu seem to be allergic to voltage now. I can run the memory at 800mhz cas 4 like usual if I don't touch the cpu voltage but if I put it up to ~1.55 (terrible I know, this chip is...) then memtest goes crazy or interrupt errors happen.
I've been having memory errors and orthos failing/rebooting all day, partly due to the cpu I know but the problems got weirder since I changed to F8 final, I guess I should go back to f8i and see if anything improves, at this point I'm ready to dump the whole pc.

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That sounds like a case of where the cpu max overclock is starting to decrease because of too much voltage. The only test I can think of to see if this is true is to find your max overclock on stock voltage, then bump up the voltage to 1.5V or greater and run it for a bit at that speed for awhile. Then stability test it again. It will probably fail the stability test after a few days. You probably want to not do this for a very long term, because afterwards, the max overclock seems to drop like a rock until even underclocking won't make it stable.

Easy tune 5 what comes bundled is also a week point.Games stuttered a lot when this worked.When by some reason you have to make reset to your system easy tune makes things worse and you have to make bios reset.Its linked to bios and somehow messes things up.Used it to monitor my temps and volts.Uninstall it.

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Very nice- i have 4 pieces of exactly same memory dual 2gb kits and no way i can set higher from cl5-5-5-12 ddr800.One other thing- DS3 motherboards have revisions rev.1 and rev.2 and also c1 and c2 subversions or what?Maybe add some b1 and b2 to the soup.Very confiusing.People give info about enable/disable stuff in biosis.About those cpu power regulation options and fast/turbo things?Advanced bios options enable/disable options?What are best?

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All of cpu pwer options, EIST C1E etc. are enable, for me.
My experience is that with 4 sticks of ram, no way possible cas4 settings.
I had 2 1Gb kits of Corsair XMS2 800mhz memory, each set did 4-4-3-6@840mhz, but if I had all 4 sticks together cas 5 needed at 800 and above.

Funny thing being that 2 sticks scaled to ~920 5-5-5-15, four sticks to ~1000 5-5-5-15

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Powered off. Took out battery. Shorted that. Shorted cmos clear. Shorted battery connects again. Shorted cmos clear again. Put in battery. Booted up.

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I saw your post I should say that I was on DS4 F6 with no problem, I load optimized defaults and flash to DS4 F7b, after successful flash with @BIOS 2 I restart system from xp and xp become shutdown successful and monitor become off but monitor stay off!! and system is on but no boot! then I have to press reset key on case and it become turn on, I flash back to F5 or even F4 or even F7e but problem not solved!! what I should do?
can anyone help me?

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Funny thing being that 2 sticks scaled to ~920 5-5-5-15, four sticks to ~1000 5-5-5-15

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But you shoud check subtimeings of memory settings, they sometime take big influence on overclock... maybe you have screenshots of those settings with 4Gb memory?

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That sounds like a case of where the cpu max overclock is starting to decrease because of too much voltage. The only test I can think of to see if this is true is to find your max overclock on stock voltage, then bump up the voltage to 1.5V or greater and run it for a bit at that speed for awhile. Then stability test it again. It will probably fail the stability test after a few days. You probably want to not do this for a very long term, because afterwards, the max overclock seems to drop like a rock until even underclocking won't make it stable.

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It's a bad cpu I know but what I find strange is that I put the voltage up and left the cpu at stock speed - I've got a tuniq tower cooling it - then tried memtesting with 1.55 (up from stock voltage of 1.325) and the memory at 800mhz c4 and it'll break down quickly, 90% of the time windows blames the memory

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But you shoud check subtimeings of memory settings, they sometime take big influence on overclock... maybe you have screenshots of those settings with 4Gb memory?

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No havent got any, and it was 2Gb total, two 1Gb kits, total of four 512Mb sticks

Got to say the forced cold-booting is pretty annoying. However, my overclocks have been sticking for the most part. On a few occasions, boot up would lead to no screen with F8 and I'd hit reset button and it'd come on with stock speed.

Also, with F8, I try to hit 450fsb but require +0.1v mch. Maybe once I get heatsink for it, it'll be better again. I know with F7 I didn't raise mch and it went up there. Then again, CPU set to 1.55v in bios and even then it's not stable at 3.6ghz. Fails small fft within 10 seconds usually. Temps into 70's with ac freezer7. Hopefully, I'll push 1.60v bios under water and get 3.6 stable. Pipe dream? I really hope not.

edit: I just noticed my ds3 squeals under orthos load just like my asus p5l-mx did. Stop orthos and it goes away. Don't think it's really affecting stability though. Just caps nowadays I guess..

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edit: I just noticed my ds3 squeals under orthos load just like my asus p5l-mx did. Stop orthos and it goes away. Don't think it's really affecting stability though. Just caps nowadays I guess..

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It's the ferrite rings with the copper wire around the, dont know what they called in english, I would make a straight translation to "reels"...

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It's the ferrite rings with the copper wire around the, dont know what they called in english, I would make a straight translation to "reels"...

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Those are toroid inductors

http://re3.mm-a6.yimg.com/image/3548735687

aye thanks :) I got what was being referred to. I'm not bothered by it now that I know to expect them to squeal.

And just for fun I did some testing. 8x400 4:5 vs 7x460 1:1 and of course 7x460 was slower. Too bad I can't get 6x533 to work. NBCC just too harsh up there

Well, here's one thing I think that's happening with my overclock ... (which actually WORKS now) ... apparently, i think the voltages don't jump as much, which is why my orthos has been stable all this time ... i approve of this F8 BIOS ... only if you have a crappy week.