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01-04-2005, 08:23 PM
trans am

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Originally Posted by situman

memory overload memory overload. THis is just too much memory. First there was EB, then VX, now this. GEEZ when will the madness end.

The madness will end once amd starts using ddrII and we have to sell all this crap. lol
01-04-2005, 08:28 PM
Jessfm

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Originally Posted by trans am

The madness will end once amd starts using ddrII and we have to sell all this crap. lol

well we got about a year then :)
01-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Skip

so is it very high possiblity that the next batch of Speed premium twinmos will be the good stuff, considering some twinmos said the more recent stuff will be the same as vx.

if this can be confirmed, i'll be putting in my order when it becomes available again for 2x512.
01-04-2005, 08:41 PM
Reefa_Madness

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Originally Posted by CTKP

I think that the D denote 512m, both the speed premium and regular modules have the AADT. They look to have the same ICs

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...218-062&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...218-405&depa=1

The difference i see is that the SP's have BP pcb while the other has jedec reference.

You are right...they have the same ICs, the problem is that neither of them have the right ICs. Unless my eyes are playing tricks, neither of those linked modules (both ending in AADT) have the larger Winbond dimples on them, only the smaller hole in the lower corner.

The modules that have been confirmed to work well have had the AA4T coding and both the hole in the lower corner and the circular dimples, just like original Winbond.
01-04-2005, 08:45 PM
trans am

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

You are right...they have the same ICs, the problem is that neither of them have the right ICs. Unless my eyes are playing tricks, neither of those linked modules (both ending in AADT) have the larger Winbond dimples on them, only the smaller hole in the lower corner.

The modules that have been confirmed to work well have had the AA4T coding and both the hole in the lower corner and the circular dimples, just like original Winbond.

Well the 2nd one is the same speed premium I ordered 1st except it's the 512mb version. I am willing to guess you are ok with those. I should have those same 512 sticks here Thursday. I'm mostly curious about those adata I posted for 65.50 (512mb) they have brainpower pcb and are probably using the same as the Twinmos. anyone want to check to make sure?
01-04-2005, 08:47 PM
Skip

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Originally Posted by trans am

Maybe you should do it next. I've spent too much money on ram last year.

i've bought too much stuff already, gskillpc4400le, amd3700+, gonna be buying a lanparty 754, and i'm trying to save up for the DFI nforce4 board.
01-04-2005, 08:49 PM
trans am

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Originally Posted by Skip

i've bought too much stuff already, gskillpc4400le, amd3700+, gonna be buying a lanparty 754, and i'm trying to save up for the DFI nforce4 board.

why would you blow money on 754 rig, if you are saving for 939? sounds redundant.
01-04-2005, 09:12 PM
Reefa_Madness

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Originally Posted by trans am

Well the 2nd one is the same speed premium I ordered 1st except it's the 512mb version. I am willing to guess you are ok with those. I should have those same 512 sticks here Thursday. I'm mostly curious about those adata I posted for 65.50 (512mb) they have brainpower pcb and are probably using the same as the Twinmos. anyone want to check to make sure?

Does the Speed Premium 512 stick that you ordered have the circular markings? I couldn't make those out in the picture. The actual chips are coded like your 256 stick (44D). I'm sure there are going to be a ton of guys hanging out on Thursday waiting for you to post about what you got.
01-04-2005, 09:15 PM
conrad.maranan

I just took a good look at my VX modules. Both sticks are totally void of any markings. On top of that, there are no dimples on any of the ICs. I think the leprechauns did something to mine. :confused:

Anyway, I'm just waiting to see the results from trans am's 2x512MB kit. This should be interesting. ;)
01-04-2005, 09:32 PM
esdee

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Originally Posted by gulp35

<joke>
Wait a minute!!! Isn't there a OCZ guy named Paul *or something like it*
http://secure.newegg.com/app/Custrat...tem=20-211-119
Read the second to last review....

CONSPIRACY!!!
</joke>

"Memory does as advertised. It passed 12 cycles of memtest with the following settings: CL 2.5-3-3-8/dual/200Mhz (PC3200)/2.6v.

Whatever you do, don't give it more than 2.6v. This memory does not like high voltage. At just 2.7v, it started to get memtest errors and at 2.8v, it would not boot."

if this is right then it's not the chips we are looking

i started with 2.7V and about 215Mhz @ 2.5-3-3-5,
220Mhz gave memtest#5 errors that got eliminated with 2.8V

now _WITHOUT_ some extra voltage (2.8 that real that MSI Neo2 max's out)
it's seems that i can't do 2-2-2-5.
01-04-2005, 09:52 PM
Revv23

so its just like VX...

on a side note my 2700 purchase is delayed i wont have the CC until tomorow at 3, i just hope this stuff clocks as well as the 3200 :cool:
01-04-2005, 10:15 PM
Skip

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Originally Posted by trans am

why would you blow money on 754 rig, if you are saving for 939? sounds redundant.

gonna have an overclocking/gaming pc, and one will be mildly overclocked, HTPC which will have my tv tuner and stuff.
01-04-2005, 11:03 PM
TEDY

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Originally Posted by Jessfm

Thanks Trans AM,

looks like I found the right ones. £95 for 2x512 sticks :toast:

Im going to grab them tomorrow

can you help me where/which ? 10x
01-05-2005, 01:25 AM
tictac

just make sure you dont buy the AAD version like mine :(

its not wonbond utt chip :(

http://www.geocities.com/nastechxtre...50D-237MHz.txt
01-05-2005, 01:33 AM
CTKP

How high can you run 2-2-2 ? Also, is 3.06vdimm the highest you can go?
01-05-2005, 01:50 AM
MrQ3W

A few pages back I said which to get(from my own personal experience), you bought different ones that's why it doesn't have UTT.
01-05-2005, 02:05 AM
tictac

my bad :slap:

:(
01-05-2005, 02:57 AM
GazC

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Originally Posted by pcworks

That same memory with the exact same Twinmos serial number is in stock at komplett.co.uk for £22inc Vat

Winbond UTT memory by Twinmos

Just a £1 more then the price I paid for my stick. They only have 50-99 sticks left instock.

Rob H

I've just ordered 2 of those sticks to cover our bases, if they don't like being tortured they can be retired into the business computer ;)

Hopefully my OCZ booster will work with my PCP&C 510 when it arrives today, it didn't want to work with my CWT 550W.
01-05-2005, 03:48 AM
X-GeN

I haven't ever seen any twinmos memories which end with AADT p/n code, that do 2-2-2-5 :devil:

And could somebody explain what winbond UTT is :toast: I couldn't understand.

I would also like to learn what chips VX use ;) (If any body knows)
01-05-2005, 03:52 AM
GazC

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Originally Posted by X-GeN

I haven't ever seen any twinmos memories which end with AA4T p/n code, do 2-2-2-5 :devil:

And could somebody explain what sinbond UTT is :toast: I couldn't understend.

I would also like to learn what chips VX use ;) (If any body knows)

Is your post directed at the purchase I just made, or is it a general one for the thread?
01-05-2005, 03:57 AM
X-GeN

I'm sorry it should be AADT

My post wasn't just for you, it was for everybody !

If you know the ram you're purchasing is definitely AADT, I would say dont waist time with it...

Look for AA4T
01-05-2005, 04:41 AM
Reefa_Madness

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Originally Posted by X-GeN

Guys I couldn't read from the beggining of the topic. But there is an important info about the twinmos memories which contain winbond chips.

As you should see there is a big sticker on the right side of the memory. On this sticker there is a p/n code. If this code ends with "AA4T" then it should be winbond bh-5 or bh-6. This info is only valid for DDR400 Twinmos memories.

I have tried about 4 sticks of 512mb twinmos ddr400 which is AA4T. But it isn't marked as 50D on the chips, they are marked as 60D. Just above this 60D "-50" is marked as well.

These chips that I have tried does about 270Fsb 2-2-2-6 1T with 3.7vdimm on A64 754 rig.

I also tried 1 stick of 256mb Twinmos ddr400 again AA4T. This memory's chips were as well 60D marked. And it did round about the same.

I almost forgot, the memories which I saw were all M.tec marked ;)

If I remember anything else I'll write back :toast:

One of the guys at OC Forums has just picked up a 512MB stick of OCZ PC2700 Value Series with those same M.tec chips you have described above (ending in 60D with the "04304-50" mfg. date info). He is the one that I've been waiting to get back with me. I thought he was buying TwinMOS, but it was instead the OCZ with the M.tec chips.

On an Intel rig he hit 250 with 2-2-2-6 using 3.6v so that is a very VX like performance for Intel, maybe even a little better than some. Just wanted to pass that along.

Those M.tec chips are like little jewels lying around, just waiting to be picked up.
01-05-2005, 05:17 AM
Revv23

yeah so ordering that 2700 as soon as i get home...
01-05-2005, 05:18 AM
abstrakt

Just got mine, W942508CH-5, 0338WI. :)
01-05-2005, 05:30 AM
sparkie34

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Originally Posted by X-GeN

I'm sorry it should be AADT

My post wasn't just for you, it was for everybody !

If you know the ram you're purchasing is definitely AADT, I would say dont waist time with it...

Look for AA4T

Some theory you got there. Look at the picture I have attached. Top is AADT 512mb and Bottom is AA4T 256mb stick. Look at the IC's. Labeled exactly the same. Camera just didn't pick up the winbond dots on the 512mb stick. I mean look at the 245mb AA4T stick. The camera only pics up one of the dots on the chip.

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