2xSATA + 2xSATAll on ICH8R (yellow), AHCI enabled, working fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Go back if you wish, but you could also try applying 'optimised defaults' first and then reconfiguring your F5 BIOS settings.
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2xSATA + 2xSATAll on ICH8R (yellow), AHCI enabled, working fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Go back if you wish, but you could also try applying 'optimised defaults' first and then reconfiguring your F5 BIOS settings.
what is the purpose of AHCI? do you need to install drivers when loading windows (hit F6) when using this mode?
Good for you. :rolleyes: At what FSB is everyone "working fine?"Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
No bios updates then?
nothing as of yet :(
400 here. Will probably play around with it again over the weekend. I'd like to be stable at 450 if possible, but quite happy either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
If u flash in windows ( gigabyte bioswriter ) u must put a checkmark at Clear DMI data pool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaim3x
Im @ 458.....Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
CPUz shows F3 for my BIOS, when in fact im using F5? What the hell..... On the POST screen as the PC boots, it too says F5?????
I have to use F4 for everything to be fine. I thought I could get by with F3, but it froze my mouse after inactivity. F4 is perfect. No missing boot disks. No missing X-Fi at 451.Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
I had to revert back to the F5 BIOS, F6 was terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
I'm currently at 400x8 which seems to be a sweet spot for temps and speed...
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceededgoku
When you're in the QFlash menu in the BIOS you need to uncheck the save DMI pool data option before flashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
off topic but:
I gave up on the DS3 and bought an Asus P5B Deluxe and guess what - my G.SKILL 2GB HZ now runs error-free@DDR2-1000 specs at 4-4-4-12 and 2.3V (on the DS3 I could get a max of 920-930 approx,tried all BIOSes, settings and such). Also my CPU (E6300) now runs @3,5GHz (but @1.525V unfortunatelly so I might go lower because the CPU is getting quite hot - 70C in Orthos, this seems a lot to me).
So anyone on a DS3, do yourself a favor and sell it ASAP and get the P5B DELUXE ;) The DS3 is a good board but not good enough for hardcore overclocking IMHO - already 450MHz FSB the board was making screeching sounds when Orthos was running. The P5B Deluxe, on the other hand, is really rock solid thus far and also doesen't make those dreaded screeching sounds. Btw, it took me around 30mins to setup a stable 500MHz FSB system on the Asus :clap: But your mileage may vary of course :bounce:
If you intend to use NCQ, hit F6 when install Windows XP....Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySK
we all knew about this , or atleast anyone who read 1/10th of this thread. or the other 10 threads about this.
we keep it cuz the P5B is only going to get you the higher ram which doesnt give you much performance at all, and maybe a slight higher fsb. which again is only a slight increase.
or.. people cant afford to buy another board.
Same crap with F5 :( Goes from 8x390 to 8x400 without a problem then when i shut the computer of for a while its restart restart restart and CMOS all over again... What to do. Can it be something with the settings?? Still does 8x430+ if I clock with EasyTune....Quote:
Originally Posted by laziepig
Im so sick of this.... now help me....
Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
The main reason I enable AHCI is to 'hot swap' drives. In my case, I have 5.25" removable drives that I use for backups and the like. AHCI/SATAII functions allow me to switch on/off, mount/dismount and 'swap' these drives without having to reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jugeen
The price difference between both boards is the main thing here, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Proof of a new revision of the DQ6:
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1159544630.jpg
So what's different? I can only notice that the top heatsink/radiator fins are cut differently, tapering off to a smaller profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Exactly, design has changed.
So Rich, have you found out what else has changed or might be different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
The board still says revision 1.0, i *think* it comes preloaded with F4 bios. Most likely the ITE and JMicron have a different build date.
Hard to tell without close ups of the mobo.
I freakin' hate that!!! The one thing that really pisses me off about this board is that damn restart crap happening after 12hrs+ prime stable... I haven't found a solution to this and it seems to be random, I also get the same thing if I press the reset button. So I just unplug at wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
Xtreme shutdown tweak ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceededgoku
you can pretty much guarentee the Rev 2.0's will also have the C2 revision 965 chipset also.
with the C2 almost ready to go retail they arent going to release a new revision and not include the new improved NB chipset.
i for one cant wait to get a C2 DS3..
I hate to go to the hassle of changing my motherboard for nearly exactly the same model with a few improvements...
Oh REALLY?RAM gives serious performance boost when encoding with Cinema Craft Encoder,it gives damn good speed blast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Damn it,I think the opposite,I get almost no OC with F5,tried F6,it gave me oc from 3600 to 3700 per core with the...BOX-SUPPLIED INTEL FAN :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixt00l
not on a conroe it doesnt.
ram speed is a very minor thing with a conroe. its all about pure CPU speed.
They only reason I snagged good ram's to OC the chip. If it wasn't for that, I'd be running some fat lat 533's!!
Lestat,no offence, I just wanted to share my thoughts (being an ex-DS3 user) and tell people to reconsider buying a Gigabyte board until they sort out the issues mentioned.. or encourage people that already have a DS3 to switch to a different board.
A few things I'd like to point out:
1. P5B is only 30 USD more than DS3 - it's not that much really,is it?
2. I needed higher RAM to get higher overclock on my E6300
3. P5B's chipset seem to run cooler than DS3's
4. DS3 was screeching at higher overclocks, P5B doesent, thank god as I use watercooling and got used to silence!
5. DS3 has problems setting certain VRAM, P5B doesent
6. New ASUS BIOS versions improve/fix things, with Gigabyte I noticed no significant change from F3-F6
...
The only thing I miss on the P5B is 1.0V VCORE ;) (minimum on the Asus is 1.25V, I used 1.0V on the DS3 when the CPU was running at default speed and was Orthos /SuperPi/MemTest stable)
Anyway, good luck to everyone that has problems with their Gigabyte board, I hope they finally release some miracle BIOS to fix them all.. I just sold my DS3 yesterday
HeresS3 with C2 ser#0636...Came with F3 bios and I flashed to F5....
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8...shot047pz0.jpg
With E6300 on air...
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7...shot045qy4.jpg
hey dumo is that orthos stable? that pi value ist a little too high to be prime stable tbh..
How's that to high?
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/forums...f05203d94c.jpg
Seems ok to me :toast:
er...
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7289/lol2fo2.jpg
at your speed I was getting around 13-14seconds...
EDIT: sorry I just realised that you have a 6300 not a 6600... my mistake
Can someone update 1st post with the latest bios?
Latest bios is available at www.giga-byte.com.tw
No new beta bios as yet, interesting to see C2 stepping chipsets show up.
I'll wait and see if these new revision 2.0 boards are that different.
Dumo...any chance of some shots of the mobo?...as in the chips such as ITE/ICS/JMicron etc.
New DQ6 review:
http://www.maxitmag.com/maxit-review...rboard-review/
no offense taken guyQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySK
you make valid points although i would agrue the P5B is a lesser board than the DS3. maybe more expensive but its a lesser board in my eyes.
there arent any issues with the DS3 and Vram.. never once have i seen anyone have issues with controlling or setting the vdimm on a DS3. ony issue is using certain ram as it cant boot since the vdimm defualts to 1.8v or it used to.
but to each their own, its our right to pick a board that we think suites our needs and works best for us.
i cant complain about my DS3 its worked great, and yes the gigabyte bios's havent improved anything, atleast the F5 and F6 didnt.
the screaching is from the coil packs on the board and not every board does it,, even the P5B will do it for some people.
i would say if your going to spend any more money get the P5B Dlx or wait,, just a little longer til more of the C2 boards come out and wait to see if DFI is able to pulla rabbit out of their arse with the aTI board.
Did anyone try the DS4 F6a yet?
Where can one download this beta bios then?
where I can download it?Quote:
Originally Posted by littlewings
hereQuote:
where I can download it?
does anyone know the cause of this? mobo or ram?Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceededgoku
i havnt been able to clock mine yet as no matter if i use 1 stick of geil or 2 i keep getting ramdom reboots were it goes into the loop of just restarting and i cant be doing with it anymore, even tried a stick of pny 512mb ram and bumped volts 2.3v but still i get them, is weird though as sometimes its when its under full load and other times i leave it idle and it still happens :(
if its the ram then im going to g.skill but if its the board then dreading going back to asus
My own results:
PCMark05: 7,537
PCMark ORB:http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=491155
Super Pi 1M : 15.047 seconds
Screenshot : http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?i...b093006if5.jpg
CPU-Z Validation Number : 126460 : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=126460
Damn I HATE MY DQ6!!
I had a DS4 before en I could overclock to 420 FSB, that one goes RMA en I buyed a DQ6, and really it sucks for €220 , even a DS3 can do it better wich is a bit cheaper, and this is the topmodel of Gigabyte? Shame you!!
Bios F3 I can give +3v to mem, can overclock to 380 FSB
Bios F4 I can give +2,75 to mem en goes to 390 FSB
Bios F5 I can give +2.75 to mem en I managed 1 time to get 405 stable, ONLY 1 TIME!! en then i couldnt get over 390.
And the F5 bios is the baddest bios, it constant restarts , fans go 100% etc etc, This must be better then earlier biosses? NOT:s , I hope my board will die soon so it can go to RMA, then I buy a P5B..
Whats the problem of this thing man? Higer then 3v on mem is noo boot, it says bios rome image failed or something.
I want a P5B Wiifi but nobody buys my DQ6 :( .
Gigabyte this was my first Gigabyte mainboard, I choose becose the bad support of Asus, and now im gonna buy always a Asus board again, because Gigabyte... Nevermind
Thats for the ds3.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
They got the 600 Mhz FSB with a DQ6 C2
http://xtreview.com/translate/es/?/a...epping-C2.html
Weird? Gigabyte switch my motherboard plz :) .
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=114600
Didnt see it before srry 4 double post.
Have you played with this board? I'm a bit dissappointed to find the DS3 didn't have the R designation for the chipset...no RAID for Jod. I guess I shoulda paid a teeny bit more attention there, lol! So now I'm left in a dilemma of boards. The new Abit looks nice...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
You can run Raid 1 0r 0 through the Gigabyte controller.
Only 2 drives supported, but its there.
TBH intel should include raid support in all of their chipsets, thats a fairly basic function these days, and has been supported by nvidia & other chipsets for years. (on ALL sata ports)
Is there a big different between bios F3 and F6 ? I'am running now at F3 and i don't have any problems. Keep F3 ?
If it ain't broke... :D
I have a tendency to upgrade whether it works or not, but it's your choice.
no i havent, and i dont need to if it is made by or carries the Asus name it is instantly stuck in the trash in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
i have no want or need to buy or play with one.
i am tempted to buy a P5B Dlx but i know for a fact from others results its not going to get me any further ona 9x multi than where i am right now.
and i am not that concerned with dropping the multi and cranking the FSB. gaining 1 sec. in 1m pi is a very small thing that i am not concerned with. know what i mean.
Regarding the DS4 F6a got it sent to me a week ago from gb after complaining bout the SYS_FAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Thought u already got it? Someone w a server I can send it to?
Please upload it to Rapidshare.
Sure has been a while since they released a BIOS for the DS3!!!!!!!!
Hope they keep em comming!
:stick:
i'm also looking for the F6a. the F5 really sucks big time!Quote:
Originally Posted by littlewings
I need DS4 F6a BIOS! please upload it!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeEyes
oh im sure they will the only problem is that with the C2 chipset coming out now or in the next week or whatever... you andme and the other DS3 owners are really gunna feel shafted.
i for one, if the results show alot of good results will sell this one,, and get a C2 but only if alot of people show its worth it.
Do you know what the improvement with the new chipset is supposed to be?
It's not Intel RAID tho. Anyone ever work with the JMicron JMB363? Can I add a drive, create a mirror, and rebuild? No data lost?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin_Gunner
Lestat:
Actually the only reason I'm looking at that board's cause of the ICH8R. I suppose the new Abit board would fit the bill too.
Havnt had time to try it yet, so please dont kill the messenger if yourQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
computer xplodes :slash: :fact:
http://rapidshare.de/files/35443801/965pds4.f6a.html
its offical from gigabyte or moded BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by littlewings
I search around the web but anyone dont know about DS4 F6 Bios
any result with DS4 F6?
Sent to me from gb-tech support a week ago, so i guess that makes it unofficially official.Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
Surprised its not out yet, makes me feel like a guinea-pig.
has anyone try this bios? any changes?
Still no bios updates?...see this is what happens with Gigabyte, they end up releasing bios every like 4 months after the initial board release period...so we all have to suffer for months!
Richard,
LAst Bios Update was two weeks ago! You can hardly call that a month let alone 4 months, please keep your flaming and be reasonable...
and besides the board isnt even 4 months old you silly goose.
i have a sneaky feeling the guys who were sharing the beta bios's were NOT supposed to be sharing them and gigabyte said to stop it or else.
I'm got a big problem here. I think others have had the same problem, but I couldn't find a solution. DS3 won't recognize my ide hdd (which has been verified to work) or any additional ide hdd for that matter. I've got 1 sataII drive and 1 ide drive. However, when I try to add the ide drive, windows displays the drive as "unreadable". Anyone come across this?:(
Lestat, do you know if Team and Gigabyte have made any progress with the D9 issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
n I get a little sneaky feeling ur :stick: me here??Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Sorry but Gigabyte?? Are you sleeping or what? Were are the bios updates for youre perfect motherboards??
My memory does 5-5-5-15 at stock voltage 800Mhz with a memory mp of 3 (stock processor clock)
when I go to 380 FSB with the same timings I need +2v (780Mhz 5-5-5-15) how is that possible? Can somebody explain that??
A MB for €220 wich cant pass the 390 FSB?? I really dont understand that... still waiting......
did you see any major difference with F6?Quote:
Originally Posted by littlewings
and its beta?
LOL@ the DQ6 and its quirks, I wouldn't call them bugs btu quirks seems about right :P
What the fudge? :eek: i've been flamed! :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheForce81
well you believe what you want its ok.. but i dont b.s. about statements like that, 90% of the time beta bios's unless freely downloadable from the mfg websites are an unauthorized release.Quote:
n I get a little sneaky feeling ur me here??
No one from gigabyte ever visits here or openly admits they work for GB. so when all of the sudden all the beta bios's disappear and so does the guy who was sharing them.. you better believe that guy was probably never supposed to be sharing them anyways
no i havent heard anything on the TG or the gskill ram. to me thats not a good sign, if they had fixed it we probably would have heard something by now. i take it as a bad sign.Quote:
Lestat, do you know if Team and Gigabyte have made any progress with the D9 issues?
personally i figure the true fix will come in the C2 chipsets.
I find it rather disturbing the DS4 and DQ6 run that ram just fine but the DS3 cant.. yet they cant sit down and say..ok what did we make different in the DS3,, and then fix it,, if possible.
i dont think the DS3 has the backbone in the NB chipset to handle the ram at any higher than 950. but thats just my opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
haha yeah you naughty monkey rich.. wth are you thinking making rubbish comments like that lol.
:slapass:
I was actually under the impression that Gigabyte was almost deliberately posting new bios's for us to sort of test... obviously not openly, but it sounded like a good idea to me :D
i think its a good idea too and the only known bad flashes,, atleast around here was the F3 betas where they mislabelled the DS3 bios,, it was really a DQ6 bios. and that was 100% their fault.. not ours.
but either way.. i have a feeling they are working on things.. its just that with the C2 boards coming in stock... i dont even want to mess with mine anymore.. atleast not until i find out if they fixed the f'ing D9 issues... cuz if they didnt fix the D9 issues in the C2 then fook gigabyte right in the arse whole im going to buy the Abit baord.
If Gigabyte won't fix all those problems this will my FIRST and LAST Gigabyte mainboard, they will lose many customers.. believe me :mad: :slapass: :nono: .Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
FIRST and LAST Gigabyte for me , for sure :clap:
no need for empty threats... I'm sure they are working on something big. Funny how we all expect our new mobos to clock so well...
Wow, every review of the DQ6 I've found has been extremely positive.
This review is pretty good though - they even tell you how they got an E6400 running at 3.5 GHz and how long they stress tested it for:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...65p_dq6/9.html
I completely agree that the eSATA brackets that come with the board are pretty much useless. I'd rather have a Firewire/USB2 PCI bracket instead.
i'd stake my paycheck that they are using the C2 rev board.
the review date is just yesterday, Oct 4th
Yeaah I bought this motherboard because in every review they got excellent results, and i've got it home... and it sucks....
Maybe hand-picked boards or what?
My DQ6 is as good as the one in the review. Using the F5 bios (and previous F3 as well) I can reach the FSB of 450 w/o any problems. I can do it with ease. Didn't try more than that, as my chip - E6400 - requires 1.5V to run 3.6 GHz, and that's really hot. Overclocking with this mobo is extremely easy.
Emperium - I advise you to run your with different sticks - that may help. It's not really smart to use el cheapo RAM with a low multiplier CPU. RAM might be the culprit here.
My dq6 is performing great too... got it spi 32m stable an 3dmark stable at 495 FSB. Can take memory at 500 mhz 4-4-3-4 with divisor
The ram does 5-5-5-15 @ stock voltage 800 Mhz, even 830 is no problem with 1.8, ig i give +2v it can handle 870 100% stable, why cant I touch the 400 Mhz FSB?? Not matter wich settings I use..:slap: .Quote:
Originally Posted by mach82
I'm at 410FSB atm... you just need to either get rid of your RAM or wait for a bios update that might or might not solve your problem..
it may help you :Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperium
Quote:
2. i'm able to OC using single channel of ram and not dual channel ie. using only 1 stick. i've ran dual channel to OC and it worked before, but somehow or rather, now only 1 stick will work with OC. both rams passed memtest. my opinion would be might be the value select ram is a bit too crappy to the board's liking.
3. try not to plug in USB mouse. my board is able to OC without USB mouse. Ps2 mouse will do just fine. this also applies to keyboard.
4. when i OC with all the above conditions, the enabling of usb legacy support doesn't really come into play. i guess it's not affecting mine.
that's all that i've found out for today. i'm still not OC-ing my board cos no PS2 mouse. btw, i'm getting another replacement gfx and hope to post more findings.
Originally Posted by delas52
Again my tips for those hitting FSB walls are
ONE: Try putting PCIE Freq. at AUTO. It has given me nearly 100FSB more than with it locked at any number.
TWO: Try lowering the vdimm if you have it at +0.2 or higher. I get my best results at 0.1V
All the other things I could say have been said many times already, but not these two.
why should you have to remove your USB mouse and keyboard? That's pathetic...
you dont have to touch the usb mouse and kb,, for the sake of arguement i switched to a ps2 setup and it made no difference. none at all. usb devices havent caused issues for a long time. and thats not the issue now.
Emperium just set your FSB to 400 and reboot, make sure you give the cpu plenty of juice. regardelss of what your using now once you hit a certain spot these chips usually require a hefty jump in voltage to get higher.
try 1.45v and see what it does. or even 1.5
the early conroes sucked for overclocking. and cold be the cause,
you could also just have a bumb board
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I've tried everything, really everything what I can do, i gived 1.55v to cpu, mem timings 5-6-6-18 nothing helped.. I had a DS4 before this mobo and with that thing I got 409FSB with the same hardware.. I think I got a f*cked up motherboard.. Thanks guys!!
yeah it sounds like a bad board...
have you tried raisin the mch or ram volts by anychance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperium
and has it not crossed your mind since youve had 2 different boards with similar results its other hardware or user error holding you back?
well the DQ6 has always been... wierd, to say the least.
i find it disturbing that the DS3 has usually always beat both the other boards in terms of overclocking.
wierd indeed.