The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

Touchdown!! Good I bet that stopped you from pulling your hair out :) So that is another with this problem so We know that it does happen thats a few so far on this forum i seen a few at msi. :toast:

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Originally Posted by SillySider03

Sinister, I had no idea...I am using BIOS v1.A0 and only have that problem, like I said, when my cooling goes below 0º. It's a handy trick to know for the future though, thanks...

Borre, I am glad you got it working.

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yea man, sideeffect made a revised version of the bios for folsk like you with sub zer ocooling so you dont get affected by that bug

sinister, i did have that same blinking cursor thing a while back with one of these 1.X bioses, but at the time it was confirmed here to be about the usb support.... and well.... at the time i was pissed it was disabled by default, since i use a usb keyboard, which is why it seems all the bioses SE modded since then comes with all them thing enabled by default. awesome.

no more funny msg, no more blinking cursor.

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Originally Posted by sinister1st

@Ssider This is a problem with the new bios (on my board anyway). If he does a full shut down he will be able to go into bios, but on a RESTART :nono: upon entering bios you will get a blank cursor UNLESS usb k/b storrage support is enabled. I drove myself crazy when this happened to me :slap: :) but it worked. And i flashed the bios about 3 times and cleared the HELL out of cmos and its still there. Just a aggrivating bug i guess. I want to know if this happens to EVERYONE or just a few? I never got to see all the other errors that people were encountering like ENVOKE ROM or the other little goodies either.

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Thats a good bit of info. :toast:

so now, everything works perfect with the new bios except one thing. I have problems to boot with 9x multi :/ any idea why?

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

You should have sent it back then.

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U think it's Mobo's fault? I think so... .

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Originally Posted by Zeus...

maybe its the mem controler starting to fade! mine has on two 939cpus :mad:

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WHAT!? Memory controller fading?
What do u mean? I mean what happenes? What causes the problem?
What should I do?

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Originally Posted by Lestat

yup ive had the memcontroller/cpu fade on 2 amd64 chips also.

its like if you overclock them and beat them real hard they are weak and they fade out. until you cant overclock very far at all.
both of mine faded down to about 250mhz max stable.

what happens if you lower the ram to 166 or 133 and run the same HTT or higher ?

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Wait. I don't get it! FADE!? R we running a circus?! :D
Why is that?
and What do u mean by saying what happenes.
I run my mems at 100 divider and can reach the highest HTT at 285! (PUKE)

Finally my account is activated!! :)
Could someone of you folks please help me with my neo2?
Two Problems:
1) After POST and just before the Windows Bootscreen shows up, the whole system hangs for about 20 seconds (at least). I tried different Bios Versions (1.B, 1.A mod, 1.8 and 1.5 which was installed first) and all do the same sort of s...
2) When I try to get my CPU Speed up to 2400 (2200 no problem), the systems freezes a few seconds after reaching the WinXP-Logon Screen. Never earlier, never later, just at that Logon Screen.
The Voltages can be between 1.35 and 1.5 Volts, the RAM Divider at 166 or 133 and at slow timings, it always freezes at the same position.

My system:
Neo2 Platinum,
3200 Venice E6
4x512MB Corsair VS CL2.5
R9800Pro
Samsung HD160JJ

Oh, and temps seem to be OK, as long as I can trust the Hardware Monitor in the BIOS.

PLZ :help:

hhm.. seems maybe i have this cpu fading thing as well, earlier in the day i could hit 2706, and 2 days ago i could hit 2740, before that i was able to go 2777. Each one crashed after a couple hrs with votlage ranging from 1.36 to 1.52, and right now i'm losing prime after a few minutes at 1.42 and 9x281 = 2534. this is getting really annoying.

also my temps are reading 48*, and that just has to be bull :banana::banana::banana::banana: because just built a very bad ass water block and i know my water temps are in the mod to high 20's, so there is NO WAY that my cpu is at 48*. I even touched the water block and it BARLEY feels warm. Idle is 43C and and now 50 full load. I know DFI boards are a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to set, but i dont know if it can be more than this board has been to me. Also, it seems like maybe one stick of my ram is going bad too. I get blue screens and dumps with one stick and a bunch of memtest errors. With the other stick i got 3 erros in 3 minutes, but atleast it doesnt BSOD as often.

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Originally Posted by Schwede

Finally my account is activated!! :)
Could someone of you folks please help me with my neo2?
Two Problems:
1) After POST and just before the Windows Bootscreen shows up, the whole system hangs for about 20 seconds (at least). I tried different Bios Versions (1.B, 1.A mod, 1.8 and 1.5 which was installed first) and all do the same sort of s...
2) When I try to get my CPU Speed up to 2400 (2200 no problem), the systems freezes a few seconds after reaching the WinXP-Logon Screen. Never earlier, never later, just at that Logon Screen.
The Voltages can be between 1.35 and 1.5 Volts, the RAM Divider at 166 or 133 and at slow timings, it always freezes at the same position.

My system:
Neo2 Platinum,
3200 Venice E6
4x512MB Corsair VS CL2.5
R9800Pro
Samsung HD160JJ

Oh, and temps seem to be OK, as long as I can trust the Hardware Monitor in the BIOS.

PLZ :help:

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The E6 revision from what I have seen isn't a very good clocker. My house mates 3000+ E6 just will not go above 2.3GHz so he runs at 2.25GHz at 1.45v.

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Originally Posted by Schwede

Finally my account is activated!! :)
Could someone of you folks please help me with my neo2?
Two Problems:
1) After POST and just before the Windows Bootscreen shows up, the whole system hangs for about 20 seconds (at least). I tried different Bios Versions (1.B, 1.A mod, 1.8 and 1.5 which was installed first) and all do the same sort of s...
2) When I try to get my CPU Speed up to 2400 (2200 no problem), the systems freezes a few seconds after reaching the WinXP-Logon Screen. Never earlier, never later, just at that Logon Screen.
The Voltages can be between 1.35 and 1.5 Volts, the RAM Divider at 166 or 133 and at slow timings, it always freezes at the same position.

My system:
Neo2 Platinum,
3200 Venice E6
4x512MB Corsair VS CL2.5
R9800Pro
Samsung HD160JJ

Oh, and temps seem to be OK, as long as I can trust the Hardware Monitor in the BIOS.

PLZ :help:

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Hey. About yor first problem. I know something. Mine had the same also. it freezes for about half a minute and then the logo shows up. apperantly HDD problems. Like DMA or PIO. Set all your drives running in PIO mode and then test. Mine is 80GB IDE interface I changed my primary and secondary divices and that fixed my prob.

No body answered me. What's the problem?!
FADING?!

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Originally Posted by Mehran

No body answered me. What's the problem?!
FADING?!

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if you overclock your processor, then after some weeks your overclock is "FADING" away. so you cant get the results anymore you got in the past.

(this is only happening with some people that are stressing there cpu to much i think)

^^do you think 1.5v and 2.7ghz too much for an x2 3800?

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Originally Posted by Mehran

Hey. About yor first problem. I know something. Mine had the same also. it freezes for about half a minute and then the logo shows up. apperantly HDD problems. Like DMA or PIO. Set all your drives running in PIO mode and then test. Mine is 80GB IDE interface I changed my primary and secondary divices and that fixed my prob.

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Sounds like a good hint, I'll try that later.
Thx

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Originally Posted by sinister1st

@Ssider This is a problem with the new bios (on my board anyway). If he does a full shut down he will be able to go into bios, but on a RESTART :nono: upon entering bios you will get a blank cursor UNLESS usb k/b storrage support is enabled. I drove myself crazy when this happened to me :slap: :) but it worked. And i flashed the bios about 3 times and cleared the HELL out of cmos and its still there. Just a aggrivating bug i guess. I want to know if this happens to EVERYONE or just a few? I never got to see all the other errors that people were encountering like ENVOKE ROM or the other little goodies either.

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Thanks for the tip. I thought I had a bad bios flash. Now I know its just bad bios programming.

Well you would be relieved to know that it also affects the official MSI release bios as well... Try SYAR's bios on msicomputer.com forums as an alternative.

Oh man something went wrong for me. I was ocing and screwing around with 3dmark with the 32OO+ venice at 2.75ghz on 1.6v. It froze and I didnt turn it off till like 5 seconds later, and now I can't get it to boot at all. It just does nothing, so did I kill the athlon (question mark keys broken on this notebook. It would be a shame since I got just got the athlon about 12 hours ago.

Try resetting the cmos.

Hey all, ive been getting some good stuff from this thread, now i have an issue. I flashed my Bios from the 1.8 to the 1.B, now if i change the CPU Vid in anyway, or the CPU Ratio my system posts with a multy of x5 and runs at half speed. also right now i have my system set running at 260x10 mem running 260mhz. But the Bios says my CPU is at 40 and mem at 400...Any ideas? thx
my cpu is a 3200 Venice.

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Originally Posted by TiTaNiUm

Hey all, ive been getting some good stuff from this thread, now i have an issue. I flashed my Bios from the 1.8 to the 1.B, now if i change the CPU Vid in anyway, or the CPU Ratio my system posts with a multy of x5 and runs at half speed. also right now i have my system set running at 260x10 mem running 260mhz. But the Bios says my CPU is at 40 and mem at 400...Any ideas? thx
my cpu is a 3200 Venice.

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I had the same problem. I have just stayed with 1.8, it seems to work the best with the Venice core.

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Originally Posted by Nossie

if you overclock your processor, then after some weeks your overclock is "FADING" away. so you cant get the results anymore you got in the past.

(this is only happening with some people that are stressing there cpu to much i think)

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Thx.
But why is that? u mean any one stressing the CPU will end up like that?

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Originally Posted by Mehran

Thx.
But why is that? u mean any one stressing the CPU will end up like that?

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May or may not and when it happens varies form CPU to CPU- your only guarantee is STD.

But these AMD64 dont last like the Bartons do.

Think I will be spending more on the Raw CPU power in future and not hoping for a good overclock (which may fade - both off mine have and I am left at 3200PR+ which buy chance just happens to be what I was running my Bartons at over a year ago - which r still running at 3200PR+ in the kids PCs)

Strange most of the people who talk about overclocks fading seem to have 3000 or 3200 + cpus.

I havnt noticed any fading yet on my 3700+. Fingers crossed. I'm about to buy a opteron 146 for my mums pc im building :p:

If its really really good cpu she might end up with a san diego 3700 but it would have to be a 3ghz on air chip :cool:

Sucks that my mum is going to get a Nforce 4 with opteron 939 2gb of memory and a 19 inch tft :mad: And i have to build it then give it away :slobber:

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

Strange most of the people who talk about overclocks fading seem to have 3000 or 3200 + cpus.

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I've suffered the dreaded fade on a Winchester 3000+. The chip was never a great overclocker, but it went from 24hr prime stable at 1.5V, 250x9, 2.5-3-3-10 to not passing prime even at stock. In the end, running prime with 2-2-2-7 timings at stock speeds would fail in moments - something that I know the chip was capable of when new. The fade took about a month to set in.

Replaced the CPU with a Clawhammer 3500+ in the same system and everything was solved.