No sry Nedo I tried before to force 2 for all dividers and instead it forced 1. Somethings wrong with the register pehaps.
Only way to change it is with athlon 64 tweaker in windows. Unless MSI add the timing to bios.
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No sry Nedo I tried before to force 2 for all dividers and instead it forced 1. Somethings wrong with the register pehaps.
Only way to change it is with athlon 64 tweaker in windows. Unless MSI add the timing to bios.
Ah Ok, thx.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
But how can it be explained that it is 2 when 183 divider is set?
:)
Thats the MSI defaults. I can overide most of the MSI defaults but like i said when i try to force 2 with Write-to-Read Delay it defaults to 1.
If you start up a64tweaker 0.31 then change the Write-to-Read Delay value to 2 then save it then open the save file with wordpad/notepad and delete all the other changes except the Write-to-Read Delay option. Then set A64 tweaker to run on startup, iit will just change that one value for you and not mess anything else up.
But then I must overclock in Windows because sometimes my Computer won't boot :D
Is there any way to know tell the temperature of the northbridge on this board? I can only see the CPU temp (29c idle, 36 load) and system temp (27c) in corecell. Also, what are reasonable running temps for a venice core?
A64 Venice 3200+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
512mb Geil PC4400 Platinum (2*256)
Q-Tec 550w Gold PSU
Akasa evo33 heatsink
Thermaltake Xaser III case
160gb SATA Maxtor
160gb IDE Maxtor
Lite-On 16x DVD-RW
Samsung 52x CD-RW
Windows XP Pro SP2
Galaxy 6800GT
You can use speedfan or systool to monitor all the temps available.
I recommend systool as it shows all the correct voltage rails.
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Right chap, a slight update on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
I upped the HT to 313Mhz (x3) set the multiplier to 8x (using clockgen) which gives me around 209Mhz on the RAM and 2.5Ghz CPU (1.53v ish). Used A64 tweaker to set the write to read delay to 2, timings to 2.5-3-3-10 1T at 2.7v and it ran 3D Mark01 fine, also passed OCCT and S&M1.73. But failed Prime95 after about 20 mins
Now would this be down to the high HT speed or should I try upping the voltage to 2.8v on the RAM.
While your answering question, how come I can't set the HT to 313Mhz in the BIOS, if I do it won't POST, but I can happily set it in Windows? Is there a way I can set in BIOS, as it would be far easier for me?
Thanks all :)
ok wow. so still tryin to OC this opteron. seems like ive run into a werid wall. with stock vcore i can go all the way up to 277x10. i have the memory on a divider (since no active cooling) at either 183 or 166 with timings of 2.5-4-4-9 and then 14 and 17 for the next two timings... anyhoo... no amount of voltage seems to get me stable at 280x10. it would then seem to me that there is some other issue happening. cuz even with the 183 divider puttin the mem at about 254 which i know its pretty stable at with 2.5-4-4-9 / 2.6v. and of course the 166 divider puts it at about 233. anyhoo. basiclally i can super pi 1M but none of hte larger ones and prime will fail anywhere from half hour to 5 hours. i pretty much stepped up the voce in bits:
ive tried startup +10%
1.375 + 10
1.4 + 10%
1.425 + 10%
1.45 + 10%
1.4 + 5%
1.45 + 3.3%
and note well that with "startup" voltage set and no over % set i went up to 277x10.
one thing i guess i can try is move from the 1.c standard and tccd bioses to a lower bios?
anyone here using a san diego, fx-57, or 4000+ with the neo2? which bios been best for you? since i have a CABNE chip right here.
any ideas SE?
Long time I haven't checked here.
Say SE I have a problem.
With yor bios (1.c) I can't use 183 MemDivider! It works like a 200 divider for me.
What's the problem?
Ok at 2.5-3-3-10 1T @ 2.8v its priming ok so far (1hr). This is at 312MHz HTT (x8 for 2.5Ghz) with the 133 Divider giving me 208Mhz on the RAM.
May beable to get better timings, I'll have to experiment. Also set Trc to 11, Trfc to 15, write to read to 2 and idle cycle limit to 256. What else do you recommend?
Have yet to try setting 312 in the BIOS, but how do I get A64 tweaker to set the timings I need on boot?
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5169/untitled0ax.jpg
Are you sure? Check with cpu-z to see what your memory is at. In bios it wont tell you the correct frequency when you set 183.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehran
Your probably hitting the memory controller limit. Mostly the cpus clock to a certain level 1;1 then you need to reduce the memory speed in order to get more cpu speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by el rolio
Like for me 250 x 11 is stable as highest 1:1
The cpu will go up to 3ghz but only if i have ram set to 200 mhz .
The ram will go to 260 mhz but only if I run the cpu at lower speed.
Its all about finding the best balance you can betwen the cpu and ram then reduce your voltages so its stable but runs cool.
wow SE, thats some good stuff to consider there. one thing someone pointed out to me... i had left the agp voltage low after the 1.c bios upgrade and cmos clear... so its at 1.55 now. im gonna go back to 1.65 as i had it pre-opterown.... and see if that does anything.
but this concept of the mem controller not liking it is crazy + it would be possible that i would then find out if droppin mem speed again (i tried it with 183 div and 166 div) to the lower one as you say lets me pass this barrier, then
• it would be awesome to still see how far stock vcore takes me and able to keep these very hot opterowns cool
• will be able to use tighter timings... and maybe if its within my bh-5 range... use the ocz golds again.
again SE, would you reccomend (after i try the other stuff) using another bios maybe? or should i stick with the 1.c tccd as im at now? im liking what you did with the bios alot and am very comfortable in it. just askin
I think the problem is just at POST where it displays your memory 'speed'. It says 'DDR 200' instead of whatever... DDR 366? or so. Also when you look at your clock speed in the bios, I think it messes up and displays something crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehran
But it should be working with a 183 divider effectively.
If you decide to use the Bh-5 go to the Standard Edition bios but otherwise I would stay with TCCD version. As for which version well 1.B is the best official so far in my opinion. 1.C is a good beta but the vcore seems less stable than 1.B have to see what happens with 1.C final.Quote:
Originally Posted by el rolio
Im using the 1.C beta ballistix E. Ive stoped overclocking for the time being im quite happy with my current clock so as long as a bios remains stable for me at this clock im happy. I just want more features now esspecially ram timings in bios.
YES! the voltages! thats what i was thinkin about. ok im gonna stick with the tccd sticks tonite, fix up the 2 agp things... look about tthe effects on the mem controller like you said... and try 1.btccd, maybe i revisit the 1.c when its final.
also: is there ways to set the idle cycle limitt to less than 256 i the bios? or have you shown all available options?
also: am i correct in remembering that you or someone else here discovered the lil quirks with diff core + % values?
this is what i came up with so far and im thinin some of hte choices even beloww 1.45 suck a nut
startup + 0% = 1.36
startup + 10% = 1.57 and up
1.375 + 10% = 1.53
1.4 + 10% = 1.56
1.425 + 10% = 1.58 ~ 1.6
1.45 + 10% = 1.61 ~ 1.63
and
1.4 + 5% = 1.52
or is there already knowledge out there as to what are good solid values to use?
Cheers sideeffect, systool definitely done the trick. Seems like a useful wee bastard as well. One other question, what are the normal operating temps for the northbridge?
I ran the prime95 torture test for 15 minutes (which I know isnt very long), just to get an idea of how hot it might get. Systool is reporting
Northbridge (max) = 15c
CPU (max) = 35c
System (max) = 30c
Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
:help: :help: :help: i cant get into safe mode with winxppro it just bsod and reboots this happens only with my x2 can some one try to duplicate this. only x2 users :help: :help: :help:
mb is neo2plat
side note, i broke the 280x10 barrier. i gotta post some screenies.... but with mem runnin at 200mhz and less. more volts aint really helpin right now.....
1.b original.... im not sure i like it. gonna get the rev2 version... for hte new layout i love so much from 1.c and will use tccd ver.
thanks SE
ok fellows, this is where im at. sorry i dont have photoshop installed. i will try and come back to it. maybe i can up the voltage a bit, tho it was superpi that threw the error, leading me to believe it was the memory givng me issues
and here is the cpuz validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44676
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1...reen2zt.th.jpg
the ambient temp as read by speedfan on the 6800 is 29 degrees.
thanks to SE and ozzimark so far. still thinkin my memory is givin me issues but maybe its bad secondary timings geting me. maybe i just go with standard bios and not tccd?
Nice opty el r :) . Im making my chrismas list, anyone know the best 2gb sticks for our neo2 's right now :) Im going to upgrade my old AIW 9600xt to a 800xt AIW also, OR i could just go crossfire but why IM at 2.7 AND I already have an X2 4400. Ive bee thinking about this for a while now.
SO whats the scoop on the 2gb goodness, Anyone tried the OCERS EB on this board yet? http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ
OR should i go for the crucial? :toast:
heh, well you know me, i say OCZ! (i love to simple-rhyme)Quote:
Originally Posted by sinister1st
aiit folks, got the 32m prime stable. upped ram voltage to 2.75v and also tried a diff combi of VID and % to get where im at of about 1.55 avg.... gosh i hate neo2 fluctuating vcore.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/7...reen5pv.th.jpg
as it stands now im done for tonight. gonna start a prime blend test? i guues thats the best to do and let it run till morn. should be a good 7 hours and hopefully it runs thru the night. *wish me luck!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Thx both of u. I'm sure! Even MemTest shows me 200!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by zenzog
I have to run @ 183 divider. My RAM is running tooooooooo slow.
It can hit 250 but currently at 220!
Any suggestions?
I have a question regarding the SATA lock on the Neo2.
Currently, I have 2 SATA drives, which are on SATA3 and SATA4. I wish to add another SATA drive, which means I have to put it on either SATA1 or SATA2.
I also OC my system. I'm running a 3200+ at 240 x 10 = 2.4Ghz. I'm also using BIOS 1.36mod, and I haven't upgraded because I've had no reason to, since everything is working.
I was under the impression that when OCing, you should not use SATA1 and SATA2 because they are not locked. With the new BIOS is this still the case? Can I OC and use SATA1 and SATA2 without data corruption?
Any help appreciated.
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My system:
Neo2
AMD64 3200+: 240HTT x 10, at 1.550v
OCZ Plat R2, 2x512MB at 2-2-2-5 2.6v
ATI X800 AGP
WD Raptor 36GB and WD 250GB