ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

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03-23-2009, 03:32 PM
humeyboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by dctokyo

Eh, the E8600 will not be the highest clocking Wolfdale ever binned? :eek:

heard the E8600 was the last

That's old news m8.

The I7 is not selling as well as they would like and I5 is belated and the World Wide Recession does not help.

Even before this they said I7 would not be mainstream even for high end segment till late 2009/early 2010.

There is a E8700 due and their is a few new socket 775 Mobos with DDR2 1333mhz support out/due out soon.

I also say there will be a new 45nm Quad out faster than the Q6950 but that's IMO.

I did foresee the new "S Model" 65watt 45nm Quads.
03-24-2009, 02:23 AM
529th

Thanks Grnfinger.

Core #0 failed, i've heard that's a sign of needing more vcore - did 3hrs of OCCT @ 1.38v~1.39v
03-24-2009, 03:19 PM
Grnfinger

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.
03-24-2009, 09:41 PM
WaterFlex

Guys, who knows, where motherboard sensor is placed on ASUS mobos?
03-25-2009, 02:01 AM
Eeky NoX

Check wit an hair dryer over the mobo WaterFlex ;)

Bout yur tests on the ram Cryptik : I gat a Spi8M @666 but nothing else with 2,6v :( ...@600 the Crucials are rockstable with 2,3v)

@Leeghoofd : Still waiting for my mobo, that's why you can see "???" in the signature ^^
If you're Belgian : do you speek french m8 ? ( I can't subscribe on I4) so we could meet here on XS but maybe on Syndrome-O/C in a review which is commin soon ???
03-25-2009, 07:08 AM
529th

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

Good for you man!
03-25-2009, 01:27 PM
SiGfever

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

I am anxious to see the results. I wish that when I was choosing between the two I had gone with the Rampage.
04-20-2009, 04:23 AM
GFORCE100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

I've noted you stating the same a few times about how the MIIF and your RAM don't want to play ball and I'm baffled since as you know from my sig (which has been present for a year now or so), the MIIF is just fine with Micron RAM at 1200MHz effective. Also bare in mind I'm running 4 sticks of it.

I've done 50x of Linx (IBT) on it with all the RAM options checked and it's fine. It's passed MS memory check for ages (over 50 passes) and that also proved it was OK. All this at 2.15V and the timings in my sig - all other RAM options are on auto or disabled except for performance level, transaction booster etc.

The MIIF is definitely sensitive to the RAM BIOS settings, it's very easy to break stability. In fact the BIOS is buggy since if it wasn't for the cold boot problem (black screen), I could run my RAM at 5-4-5-18-30 at 1200MHz which gets the latency down to about 50.5ns in Everest.
04-20-2009, 04:32 AM
GFORCE100

Hmmm

Is it just me or has the recent XS Forums downtime caused a loss of some of this thread? Before it got taken down "for testing apparently" two days ago I remember evo posting about how he modded the MIIF 1901 BIOS and inserted the SLI string into it - these posts now seem gone entirely and the latest posts (other than my last one) date back to March 25th.

Either my eyes are playing up or something is going wrong here. Anyone else notice the step back in time?
04-20-2009, 05:50 AM
humeyboy

Yip the forum has been down more than a hookers pants in recent weeks and posts are gone due to this (not sure if perm).

I have same Mobo and Ram as you 2 and I cannot even save and exit bios at 1200mhz or about above 1175mhz.

No amount of voltage or settings change it.

Hope the newer Rev A3 is better but the lesser models now have Turbo models with DDR21333 support. :mad:
04-20-2009, 06:32 AM
KURTZ

how about the SLI modded bios?
04-20-2009, 09:07 AM
e.v.o

just wait guys.. i will bring you a new bios with all those goodies included in the newer boards. things i'm planning to change:
update all roms to their newest version
patch the memory table (ddr2-1300 support)
get sli working
maybe qfan plus (very nice.. it controls the opt_fan through opt_temp! great improvement! )

also i'm planning to patch the audio drivers to a newer version and get the turboV software from the rampage II/p5q turbo running on our MIIF
04-20-2009, 09:37 AM
KURTZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

just wait guys.. i will bring you a new bios with all those goodies included in the newer boards. things i'm planning to change:
update all roms to their newest version
patch the memory table (ddr2-1300 support)
get sli working
maybe qfan plus (very nice.. it controls the opt_fan through opt_temp! great improvement! )

also i'm planning to patch the audio drivers to a newer version and get the turboV software from the rampage II/p5q turbo running on our MIIF

wow EVO you rock mate ... keep in touch! :up:
04-20-2009, 11:59 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

I've noted you stating the same a few times about how the MIIF and your RAM don't want to play ball and I'm baffled since as you know from my sig (which has been present for a year now or so), the MIIF is just fine with Micron RAM at 1200MHz effective. Also bare in mind I'm running 4 sticks of it.

I've done 50x of Linx (IBT) on it with all the RAM options checked and it's fine. It's passed MS memory check for ages (over 50 passes) and that also proved it was OK. All this at 2.15V and the timings in my sig - all other RAM options are on auto or disabled except for performance level, transaction booster etc.

The MIIF is definitely sensitive to the RAM BIOS settings, it's very easy to break stability. In fact the BIOS is buggy since if it wasn't for the cold boot problem (black screen), I could run my RAM at 5-4-5-18-30 at 1200MHz which gets the latency down to about 50.5ns in Everest.

I have 2 MIIF boards, highest I can clock my Micron D9GMH sticks is around 1175MHz or so, regardless of timing or strap I cannot post above that.
Hoped this board would be a great performer, but sadly its not.

Just waiting on my mosfet block for the Rampage board, when they arrive I will do a head to head, clock for clock, quad and dualie comparison.
But I already know who the winner will be:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

just wait guys.. i will bring you a new bios with all those goodies included in the newer boards. things i'm planning to change:
update all roms to their newest version
patch the memory table (ddr2-1300 support)
get sli working
maybe qfan plus (very nice.. it controls the opt_fan through opt_temp! great improvement! )

also i'm planning to patch the audio drivers to a newer version and get the turboV software from the rampage II/p5q turbo running on our MIIF

It's like polishing a turd, no matter what you do to it, its still a pos
04-20-2009, 05:03 PM
humeyboy

At least the guy is trying. :rolleyes:

This is the MFII thread not any other Mobo and I'm kind of glad all the posts are lost that were totally of topic and pic's of Rampage Mobos. :cool:
04-21-2009, 03:05 AM
GFORCE100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I have 2 MIIF boards, highest I can clock my Micron D9GMH sticks is around 1175MHz or so, regardless of timing or strap I cannot post above that.
Hoped this board would be a great performer, but sadly its not.

Even if you try the below settings?

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - -50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175
CPU Clock Skew - 200ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns
04-21-2009, 07:05 AM
humeyboy

I will print out your settings above and try them later but ideally I want 1200mhz Ram for 600FSB 1:1.
04-21-2009, 12:36 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

Even if you try the below settings?

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - -50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175
CPU Clock Skew - 200ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns

I will try them and report back shortly
04-21-2009, 12:42 PM
529th

I'd like to post for sale my MIIF board here. Asking 180$ where is the FS section!?!?!

Thanks,

529th
04-21-2009, 12:50 PM
screwtech02

Quote:

Originally Posted by 529th

I'd like to post for sale my MIIF board here. Asking 180$ where is the FS section!?!?!

Thanks,

529th

You dont have enough posts to view/post sale.....:rolleyes:
04-21-2009, 12:57 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by 529th

I'd like to post for sale my MIIF board here. Asking 180$ where is the FS section!?!?!

Thanks,

529th

pm fordf250, he was looking for 1 last week.
04-21-2009, 01:11 PM
529th

Quote:

Originally Posted by screwtech02

You dont have enough posts to view/post sale.....:rolleyes:

I have over some 3000 posts on Anandtech
04-21-2009, 04:08 PM
screwtech02

Yeah, but that doesnt matter to "managment" here man....
04-22-2009, 12:08 AM
Kayso

Here some shots with my new Q9650 :)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2093/9475.th.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2925/linkpak.th.jpg

He is a good overclocker :) I will go for 9*500 these days, but don't have time to play right now.

Again all settings on Auto, I changed only vcore and everything goes just fine.

I'm working now to make 9*490 stable. This FSB want's a little tweaking :)
04-22-2009, 03:13 AM
e.v.o

It's a hell of a shame what ASUS is doing with the MIIF BIOS:
- no backport of those nice functions found in MIIG BIOS like QFan Plus, new BIOS Options, 8 OC Profiles, aso.
- eSATA at the Marvell Chip is not working but ASUS does advertise this option in their manual
- Pull-Ins are not working and many other things
- crappy old PCI ROMs

I really hate them now! They :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing sell the most expensive P45 board on the market and don't give a damn about it!
You simply just have to look at their FTP and how messy it is their: 10 same software packs with the version in it and 10 different names. WTF? Don't you have standards at your crappy offices?

If anyone from ASUS reads this: Go, get yourself some process management steps and someone who watches the development! And :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing get us a new and working BIOS with all those nice things.. it is a big :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing shame that ASUS isn't able to do such simply things that companys like ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte, aso. can do! Your the biggest :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing producer for retail boards and simply just don't give a god damn :banana::banana::banana::banana: about your customers!

The working methods and handling of the customers has to be a topic on all big hardware pages all around the internet to pressure ASUS .. but i think that no big page will do such a thing, cause ASUS needs them and they need ASUS.

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