The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

The 216 233 and 250 dividers dont work. Maybe thats what is confusing you. The dividers that work are 100 133 166 200. If you have a modded bios 150 and 183 will also work.

Use cpu-z to tell you the HTT speed and the memory speed it does it a lot better than a synthetic benchmark will.

so to run 1:1 you set memory divider to 200 then raise the HTT the ram and cpu will scale together. Then if you reach your memory maximum speed before the cpu has hit its limit then you use a divider on the ram.

What I mean about the bios not showing correct readings is. If you set 250HTT 1:1 the bios will show 400 instead of 500.

If you set 183 or 166 divider bios will show 333 if you choose 133 or 150 bios will show 266.

If you set 166 divider but raise the HTT so the memory is really at 200mhz it will still show 333.

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Originally Posted by Rbreb13

Which BIOS mod?

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The 1.C by SE.

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

Yes 205 1:1 shouldnt be a problem at all. What bios are you using ?

Perhaps its a problem with the 9x multiplier in the bios that your running. If your using 1.B try 1.8 and if your using 1.8 try 1.b :)

Also the memory might be running to loose. Post a picture in here of athlon 64 tweaker showing your timings.

If someone else has Bh-6 in here also post your memory timings :slap:

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Ok the working timings at 180Mhz

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/9009/a641804nf.jpg

and the timings at 210Mhz

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/6859/a642100qs.jpg

Write to real delay of 1 is very tight set that to 2.

Trc (12) and Trfc (18) is probably to loose for Bh6 try 11 and 15. Try Tras of 7 instead of 10. Set read to write delay to 2. See how that works might give you a few more mhz.

Then if you want to go any higher than that you going to need to drop down to cas 2.5 i think.

See how high you can go at 2.5-2-2-7 or 2.5-2-2-8. With trc 11 and trfc 15.

Then try again at 2.5-2-3-7

Set voltage to 2.85 volts. Put a fan over the memory if you can.

wonder if i should flirt with this :)

http://www.patriotmem.com/products/g...PC5600&catid=1
http://www.patriotmem.com/products/s...65125600el.pdf

can someone tell me what bios I have to use to get 240fsb 1:1 with 2-2-2-x timings and a DDR Booster? Pick from BH-die, BH-5, CH-die (Redlines). I want to use low latency since my TCCD won't give me high HTT using my Venice. I finally got my RMA board back so it's time to master this board. Tell me how to get this thing stable and what timings/voltage is best. If 240 isn't feasible tell me so I don't waste my time. Right now I'm using the 1A bios. Thanks for any help with this frustrating board.

what the hell.............I can't believe this, 3 processor, all sooo easily goes to 2500 but nothing can make them goes 2600 and beyond, different BIOS, different voltages, different divider, all different :D

makes me wondering : is my motherboard dislike 2600Mhz and beyond or it just playing a trick with me?
hahahahaha LOL

http://www.geil.com.tw/portal/overclocking.php for ppl that are intersting step by OC guide and more..

Anyone have the lowdown on the best Bios to use for a Neo2 / Manchester X2 combo? I just bought the CPU and should be receiving it in a couple of days. I have a winnie and I am looking to do a drop in place upgrade with the X2, I need lots of voltage 1.5-1.6 since I am phase change cooled :D

Because its a x2 you cant use the 1.36 bios which is the only bios with +18 percent voltage.

So you will be limited to about 1.65 volts in bios. A further 0.1 volts can be got in windows though. I would flash the 1.B bios for the x2 your getting its a good all round bios.

From testing with my san diego and vapochill above 1.65 didnt really help anyway.

Hey Sideeffect, I just tried ur 1B rev2 TCCD optimiced bios, but it was very bad in overall fsb gain compared to the 1.41b or 1.6 official. I easily get 270fsb 2.5-3-3-7 with those two, but I cant even boot at 265Fsb 2.5-3-3-7 with ur TCCD optimised one.. Have I missed something? I thought that I would gain better results with ur bios mod?

S!1v3rb: Sideefect didn't modify how the bios work or something like this..he released the bios to just simplify the end user bios configuration nothing more...The core of the bios wasn't modified so the bios is like the oficial one...He don't have the rights to made k8n neo2 bioses like he want.

Yep as Losphoron said.

My bios might/will help people compared to a default 1.B bios. cant really compare it to a 1.41 or 1.8 bios because they are different. The older bios files did seem to go to higher HTT over all. However a lot of peoples boards will still go to high HTT with the new bios.

Mne will still go up and over 300 HTT. Depends on what multiplier you use.

Thing is that the 1.B has more options and better support for cpus. So its worth using it over the earlier bios files as long as you dont have to lose to much overclock.

If you have a winchester cpu or newcastle then stick to the earlier bios's imo.

hey sideeffect, I am currently using the v1.B Rev2 with my 3500 winchester and GSkill TCCD. its a great bios, one of the very few that likes my TCCD and winnie. but my ethernet tends to drop a lot with this bios. wut other bios do u recommend??

Maybe you should just try different ethernet drivers. The nforce 4 packs work for ethernet with the neo 2. It just doesnt update the vga.

Has anybody tried a pair of GSkill PC4000 HZ 2 x 1GB on the Neo2?
Getting instability all the way, even at stock.
Which is the best BIOS for theses babes?

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Final results are:
CPU 2650 @ 1.6v.
RAM : 220 @ 2.70v
How bad I couldn't use 0.5 multies to get my RAM run at DDR500! :(
I HATE THIS MOBO. SIMPLY (BANANASSS!!!)!
I wish I had a DFI... .

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Originally Posted by Zeppelin

Has anybody tried a pair of GSkill PC4000 HZ 2 x 1GB on the Neo2?
Getting instability all the way, even at stock.
Which is the best BIOS for theses babes?

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I've managed to get this rig going with the 2nd rev of the modded 1B BIOS.
Have to check two more versions... ;)

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I want to buy some Geil Value (no money for the expensive ones)..
http://www.geil.com.tw/portal/product_400_t_b.php

please tell me your opinion about them and if it's worth to switch my Kingmax 512mb DDR400 to those..I read a review and it says that it reach 250fsb on many systems in 1:1 configuration...

Hey sideeffect, I finally found some ram that works in this sorry board. Would you suggest the 1B Billistix bios for UTT ram? My system liked the 1A bios but the cycle limit didn't like 16. Switched it in windows to 256 and all was good.

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Originally Posted by Losphoron

I want to buy some Geil Value (no money for the expensive ones)..
http://www.geil.com.tw/portal/product_400_t_b.php

please tell me your opinion about them and if it's worth to switch my Kingmax 512mb DDR400 to those..I read a review and it says that it reach 250fsb on many systems in 1:1 configuration...

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I had the GEIL Value PC3200 for just one day and brought them back.

They were only able to run at 215Mhz instead of stock 200...divider has been 166...

My MDT were cheaper and make 230 without problems...

Thanks for the input sideeffect. :toast:

I will report the results back here once I have the CPU in place. I am hoping the memory controller on the new CPU is better since my memory overclock has been somewhat dismal with the current 3000+ winnie despite having OCZ rev 2 TCCDs.

I have some coolboot problems with a.B4. I can't boot my pc with oc (240x10 DDR480, etc), this oc is stable and only have problems with 1.A4b bios. Have 1.B final rev2 the same problem?


regards.

I did not see any recent posts about this, so here goes.

I am about to buy 2 gigs (2x1024) of OCZ. For those of you who have used this, which kind would be best for OC in your opinion? :)

dont get the platinum if you want to overclock. it only does 230 MAYBE 240. i have't tried heavy voltage yet, my DDR booster should come on Friday, we may see. But you'd be best off getting the gold if you want ocz.