DFI RDX200 CF-DR First look

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Originally Posted by ViperJohn

Simple. The ULI is not a drop in replacement for the 450SB. Pin count and layout are different. DFI was to far along in the design process when the ULI chip popped up to shift design gears, change the layout to use the ULI chip and still get the MB onto the street in anything approaching a timely manner.

My understanding is ATI has a second generation, pin compatible SB to replace the 450 that addresses the 450's short comings. The question is when lol.

Viper

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There is an SB460 coming very soon, but it is just a die-shrink of SB450 as I understand it, with no other changes.

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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

what settings where used for the 4x512 tccd tony?
:( ive tried 4x512 mushkin redlines last night at 2.6-2.8v 2-3-2-5-1t wont boot.
also 2x gskill tccd 512meg sticks and 2x ocz pc3200 PT tccd and can't get it to work either.
max async was at 8ns
preamble 6ns
cas 2 and 2.5
ras to cas 2 and 3
trp 2 and 3
tras 5-8 and 10
drive strength I tried from 1-max.
TCCD would make it to windows but would reboot when I went to say run sandras ddr benchmark and the UTT wouldn't post.

If there is a beta bios I can try PM me it ppleasee :0
Thanks M8.
Got an 148 opteron coming next week will retry with that chip ddr controller. :)

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I posted UTT did not work, TCCD needs to be 4 matched modules, you need drive strength at 15 and 200fsb.

Aparantly micron also works 4xDS so you may want to try that also. Now you can see the work we are putting into getting settings for you guys that work.

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Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Thanks for the effort Tony. Are you trying to do this all on ONE board? I mean if you had five you might stand a reasonable chance of getting things done more quickly. Should we start a petition? :p:

UnG

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3 boards, Rgone has 2 and i have 1. I am actually trying to get a tweak guide up for OCZ with this board but it is taking a lot longer than expected.

Can you elaborate on how these timings don't act like they do with NF4.....I'm intrigued (as I need a new board ASAP and it's between this and another SLI-DR--Expert's too far off in the future to wait for)

TRC
TRFC
TRRD
Read to write and write to read
Read pre amble
Async latency
drive strength
DQS or data drive (looks close but it does seem to act different)

Thanks.

Jason...before you get in too deep with the settings and playing around learning its peculiarities, what are your initial impressions?

Sweet--I await further results before I order (I'm doing it anyway, just wanna know what I'm getting myself into) :D

Thanks. :up:

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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

Awsome stock running board. Anything over that I will not comment on.
It has a nice feature set, bundle, and board layout.

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Thats a good first impression. Wonder where i can get hold of one.

:woot:

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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

yeah I knew about the UTT/BH-5, but wanted to give it a go, as for TCCD both sets where exactly the same PCB/CHIP's even the week on the chips, hehe. both would also match the settings perfect at 200mhz in 2x512 config's :(

No biggy don't want to fuss anymore on this topic back to getting the board over 225mhz :)

thanks
Jason

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The TCCD you have are from 2 companys. Even if its the same chips and PCB the rom chip will have a different flash on it from one company to another.

So to sum up the current issue(s):

1)Memory compatibility
2)Uhhh pretty much it?

Conclusion: The cpu will clock like a bull as long as we use mem dividers to keep the mem close to 200mhz right?

If that's the conclusion....I'll take one! :D

I'd rather have my CPU at its max with my mem a little lower than what it's capable of (although I do that anyway).

Just gotta wait for the Egg to get them back in stock now :stick:

I could care less if the memory doesnt go over 225. There's more than enough bandwidth to spare. What I care about is that I can totally max out my cpu. I prefer to run tight latencies anyways.

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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

yeah but I can run all 4 sticks mixed together fine in nf4 at 280mhz at 2.5-3-3-7-at 2t command. I can't see a bigg diff why they would have to match perfectly for ddr400@1t, but lets not get into that please. Get the board and try it out for yourself. Very fast board and so far not one crash very stable just needs some bios revisions like the 500 rev. the nf4 dfi got :).

thanks
Jason

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The bios needs to be "friendly" to allow different spd's to work ok, this bios at the mo is not that friendly

Does it look like it will be friendly any time soon?

And is there a chance of it working when TCCD and 5B -D are used together?

....not that your answer is changing my decision, LOL

I need to get a few points straight.

TCCD...we are struggling to get 300+
old EB micron runs just fine
BH5 runs just fine
4000EB runs just fine
etc etc

225fsb is not the limit of the board, i hit 270 first, then 300 later although the 300 is proving hard. I have run VX at 260+ and old BH5 at 260+

Its just this is a different animal, start a fresh and don't use what you know from the Nf4.

Good to know....thanks :up:

Does it not work well with TCCD or not work well above 300? Or is it too early to tell?

Gahh!!!!! Why can't Newegg be in stock!? GRRRRRRR!

Sorry, just venting. I want to order it really badly.

Good thing i hit the checkout button on my newegg cart before i went to sleep last night (to buy my DFI RDX200 CF-DR), i think i got the last one :p: i was hesitent on buying a pci-e card last night, so i removed that from the cart, but wound up ordering an saphire x1800xl-oem this morning. i can't wait for my stuff to get here to start playing (with my newly ordered DFI RDX200 CF-DR and x1800xl) :)

Edit: to clarify my post, since it wasn't just about videocards :p:

please share your thoughts on the X1800XL in the 3D section of the forum. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

please share your thoughts on the X1800XL in the 3D section of the forum. Thanks.

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:ROTF:

I have a question that is a little off topic but i bought this mobo and this is my first computer i've ever built and i am slightly confused on all the connections. Does anybody have a link to a good website on how to set up a mobo for newbs? Thanks, i appreciate it. :)

Ummm...wow....interesting board to decide to make your first build from, even Tony is having teething issues with getting used to it (from the looks of it).

Anyway, there should be a manual (well, more like a poster) included with all the nitty-gritty details about the connectors ;)

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Originally Posted by Vapor

Ummm...wow....interesting board to decide to make your first build from, even Tony is having teething issues with getting used to it (from the looks of it).

Anyway, there should be a manual (well, more like a poster) included with all the nitty-gritty details about the connectors ;)

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Haha, yeah i know. The stupid thing is like over a quarter inch thick! I was really hoping of an easy way out.... oh well... i guess i'll go crack open the Mobo Bible. :(

Ok, i know i'm a freaking moron but i have most of my system together now and i'm hooking up my X1800xl and my ram and i have a question about the ram. I bought some Mushkin Redline Dual Channel DDR400 and i don't know which two slots to put it in. I assume 1-3 or 2-4 but in the manual it says this:

"A DIMM SPD is original fixed at 1T. When modules are inserted in DIMM 1 and DIMM 3, the SPD must be 2T for better system stability. We reccomend inserting DIMMs into DIMM 2 and DIMM 4."

Ok so basically i'm asking what 1t and 2t is? And which slot configuration would give me the best performance. Thanks to all you who are geniuses. :toast:

Setting up board now

Man having issues already at 215