Amd Officially Benches Bulldozer

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09-24-2011, 06:40 AM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by Movieman

And someday I'm going to find a AMD thread where your not there dumping on them..
Oh wait, thats a pipe dream!:rofl:

Where was i dumping on them movie? I like amd and have owned amd but as i said before i'm a price/performance whore and i just don't see the 8150 providing better results then my current 2500K for the money. If i was into folding or encoding the 8150 would be a sweet setup but all i do is bench, game and watch :banana::banana::banana::banana: and the 2500K owns that segment. :)

Now if the 8150 was 199 or lower then it would slide into view as a great alternative to my current rig but... You knew one was coming... If i was looking to build on October 12th and had to choose between a 2500K and a 8150 i'd have to weigh the options...

Price - Pretty even
Upgradability - AM3+ is pretty much a dead socket where 1155 has IB coming

Even if you were a die hard Amd fan. Would you really go the Amd route when you know 22nm Goodness is coming in 5 months?
09-24-2011, 06:43 AM
muziqaz

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Come on Muz. You think someone took the hours to fake them ALL? I think they're accurate.

For the past 6 months i expected the 8150 to beat the 2600K in Multithreaded apps and get killed in Gaming which is what i see here. I also have to point out the 980X runs at 3.3Ghz with a 3.6Ghz turbo and the 8150 runs at 3.6Ghz with a 4.2Ghz turbo.

I don't know about the accuracy. I haven't got all the details, as none of us do. We will just have to wait and see, don't we. But as i said, what we seen before this, was nowhere near the perf we see in these slides(or so called slides :D).
If those slides are true, I do believe that when we get our retail chips from shops, we will be able to tweak our systems further, you know, higher clocked ram, NB all that stuff :) And then there is clocking them to sky high :) remember chew's remarks about clock potential :)
One thing I know they will not be dull, and they will not be barcelona
09-24-2011, 06:50 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Where was i dumping on them movie? I like amd and have owned amd but as i said before i'm a price/performance whore and i just don't see the 8150 providing better results then my current 2500K for the money. If i was into folding or encoding the 8150 would be a sweet setup but all i do is bench, game and watch :banana::banana::banana::banana: and the 2500K owns that segment. :)

Now if the 8150 was 199 or lower then it would slide into view as a great alternative to my current rig but... You knew one was coming... If i was looking to build on October 12th and had to choose between a 2500K and a 8150 i'd have to weigh the options...

Price - Pretty even
Upgradability - AM3+ is pretty much a dead socket where 1155 has IB coming

Even if you were a die hard Amd fan. Would you really go the Amd route when you know 22nm Goodness is coming in 5 months?

Then I will apologise but lets say I noticed a tone from you in more than one AMD thread and that is what brought my comment
Now as to you from your sig:
2500K @ 5Ghz 1.40v - Hyper 212+
Asus MIVE
EVGA GTX 470's in TRI
AX1200
Why the hell do you want to upgrade?
Your current, good gear, no need.
Save your money for the next round.
09-24-2011, 06:53 AM
jimbo75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Come on Muz. You think someone took the hours to fake them ALL? I think they're accurate.

For the past 6 months i expected the 8150 to beat the 2600K in Multithreaded apps and get killed in Gaming which is what i see here. I also have to point out the 980X runs at 3.3Ghz with a 3.6Ghz turbo and the 8150 runs at 3.6Ghz with a 4.2Ghz turbo.

Where is this "killed in gaming" you are seeing here?
09-24-2011, 07:02 AM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Then I will apologise but lets say I noticed a tone from you in more than one AMD thread and that is what brought my comment
Now as to you from your sig:
2500K @ 5Ghz 1.40v - Hyper 212+
Asus MIVE
EVGA GTX 470's in TRI
AX1200
Why the hell do you want to upgrade?
Your current, good gear, no need.
Save your money for the next round.

No need to apologize at all bro. Why would i want to upgrade? I love to waste money :ROTF: and if i don't spend it my fiance will. ;)

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Originally Posted by jimbo75

Where is this "killed in gaming" you are seeing here?

Gaming results were with a pair of 6790's. Can you say gpu bottleneck?
09-24-2011, 07:07 AM
undone

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Originally Posted by muziqaz

We haven't heard it is shipping because we don't have desktop JF among us ;)
I guess it would be safe to say that with those boxes of Interlagos to Cray, there were some smaller boxes going to some of the Desktop builders ;) Or at least to some regional warehouses(if AMD has such things).

And I also heard from some NDA-signer(they indeed have ES chips)one month ago, that release is on September, now it becoming pipe dream.

When you go over these cases that happened in the past few months you can find a lot of bullshxt, maybe they were not lying, even when their statements are conflicting each other, even the slides themselves are 'ever true'. But now, I regard these all as obsolete one just like those rediculous roadmap, changing frequently.

I don't know what amd is doing, seems they are trying hard to broadcasting the launch is 'coming soon', but what they really prepared is not, instead they're keeping silent with some slides and roadmap spreading out.

Now just wait, if we cannot receive the Zambezi shipping news in upcoming weeks, there will be a serious case, that AMD is intentionally lying to the whole world including some insiders.
09-24-2011, 07:11 AM
muziqaz

undone, I didn't say they are launching in September, and I am one of those who don't believe in September launch. But I do believe(and that's my opinion) that FX chips shipped or are going to be in very short time.
And stop with all the moaning about how AMD does not tell everything to you :)
09-24-2011, 07:20 AM
Dimitriman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Then I will apologise but lets say I noticed a tone from you in more than one AMD thread and that is what brought my comment
Now as to you from your sig:
2500K @ 5Ghz 1.40v - Hyper 212+
Asus MIVE
EVGA GTX 470's in TRI
AX1200
Why the hell do you want to upgrade?
Your current, good gear, no need.
Save your money for the next round.

Because he was never going to upgrade? His "upgrade" and "I have owned an AMD processor in the past" are his excuses to beat down on every AMD benchmark that shows up. He is only here to amuse himself at every benchmark that shows his Intel system being faster than AMD's new processors. Or am I the only one noticing this?
09-24-2011, 07:22 AM
jimbo75

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Gaming results were with a pair of 6790's. Can you say gpu bottleneck?

And your explanation for this slide is?

http://img.donanimhaber.com/images/h...1a_dh_fx57.jpg
09-24-2011, 07:27 AM
Final8ty

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Originally Posted by Dimitriman

Because he was never going to upgrade? His "upgrade" and "I have owned an AMD processor in the past" are his excuses to beat down on every AMD benchmark that shows up. He is only here to amuse himself at every benchmark that shows his Intel system being faster than AMD's new processors. Or am I the only one noticing this?

He does come across like that and some people who have just bought a 2500K system wouldn't want the AMD to be faster after just forking out.
Its very common across forums and i have found that when there is a big moaner its seems too be 2500K user.
09-24-2011, 07:29 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Gaming results were with a pair of 6790's. Can you say gpu bottleneck?

Where did you see the system configuration? And GPU bottleneck at 19x10?? Really?
09-24-2011, 08:11 AM
Hornet331

Greate.. the most interesting slides 30-32 are not up....
09-24-2011, 08:15 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

Greate.. the most interesting slides 30-32 are not up....

My thoughts exactly ... And why didn't they list which model number from FX lineup was used for compute intensive apps?? All other slides (ie. gaming) have model numbers on them,for both intel and AMD. For compute ones they put juts "FX",no model number at all... Can be FX8150 of course,but we don't know since system configuration slide from "back up" deck is missing.
09-24-2011, 08:16 AM
undone

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Originally Posted by muziqaz

undone, I didn't say they are launching in September, and I am one of those who don't believe in September launch.

September fade away, now do you believe October launch? ;)

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And stop with all the moaning about how AMD does not tell everything to you :)

Not everything, but anything.:mad:
09-24-2011, 09:41 AM
Pestilence

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitriman

Because he was never going to upgrade? His "upgrade" and "I have owned an AMD processor in the past" are his excuses to beat down on every AMD benchmark that shows up. He is only here to amuse himself at every benchmark that shows his Intel system being faster than AMD's new processors. Or am I the only one noticing this?

So you know this for a fact how? I didn't know we had mind readers on his forum and ill gladly provide pics of former systems if you need absolute proof. Let me pose a question to you since you seem like the typical whiny Amd fan. Why are you so butthurt over intel and its owners? I can't remember intel fans being like this when Amd was on top during the crapburst days.
09-24-2011, 09:57 AM
Lanek

why do you want he's an AMD fanboy ?
09-24-2011, 10:08 AM
~CS~

I think AMD will launch just before the new year shopping season,would make most sense,things are moving slow atm.
09-24-2011, 10:15 AM
muziqaz

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Originally Posted by undone

September fade away, now do you believe October launch? ;)

Not everything, but anything.:mad:

I myself would be glad to get this CPU before xmas. Nothing else. I would love to replace my thuban with something new and more exciting, but I have other things to do in life, thus I can wait ;)
09-24-2011, 10:16 AM
cold2010

Bla Bla

http://www.nordichardware.se/images/...ulldozer_4.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2933/scaling.png

this my test

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6...11564bitoc.png
09-24-2011, 10:23 AM
informal

cold2010 and the point of that picture is what exactly? We do know how 2600K performs ,there are million of reviews. Note the thread title,it's about FX Bulldozer,not Sandy Bridge. Thanks.
09-24-2011, 10:30 AM
Tha Last Meal

COLD :D:D

Ryūjin Jakka
09-24-2011, 10:31 AM
Hornet331

Wonder if intel will throw out a 4core HT SB at a 200€ price point, would be right between 2500 and 2600. Considering that it seems (for now) the new top AMD cpu aims for that spot.
09-24-2011, 10:35 AM
uOpt

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Originally Posted by informal

cold2010 and the point of that picture is what exactly? We do know how 2600K performs ,there are million of reviews. Note the thread title,it's about FX Bulldozer,not Sandy Bridge. Thanks.

The pic holds the Intel numbers to compare to the Bulldozer numbers right on top.

Looks kosher to me.

Putting them all into one neat table might be nicer.
09-24-2011, 10:53 AM
demonkevy666

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Originally Posted by uOpt

The pic holds the Intel numbers to compare to the Bulldozer numbers right on top.

Looks kosher to me.

Putting them all into one neat table might be nicer.

just needs a power used comparisons. imo
09-24-2011, 11:18 AM
flesheatinvirus

I hope those numbers get better, time will tell.

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