AMD Radeon HD 6870 and HD 6850 confirmed to be launched on 22.10.2010

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10-16-2010, 08:53 AM
Bobsama

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Originally Posted by -Boris-

Looks promising. I think AMD is doing 6000-series right. They are making the most efficient architecture even more efficient. Throwing out shaders they don't use and adding performance at the weak spots.

If those speculations are true then I think 6870 won't be to far from 5870 performance wise. And somehow I think 6870 will overclock better. ;)

I'm curious how these new HD6800's will do in HPC applications, when compared to their older HD5800 brethren.
10-16-2010, 11:55 AM
cold2010

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10-16-2010, 12:06 PM
Tha Last Meal

Tonight Performance:D

lol this is not good HD 6850 Temperature 77c...... and with FurMark :shocked:(85-90) :eek:
10-16-2010, 12:10 PM
RPGWiZaRD

hopefully the HD6870 cooling works better... looks more like HD58xx cooling and that worked great (+ I love the design of it :D).

I lol'd at the bracket comparision though, 2C improvement YEA RIGHT!
10-16-2010, 12:19 PM
Pantsu

What, you don't think changing the exhaust bracket to letters XFX has at least 2C Difference!? :ROTF:

Looks like nice cooling solutions, but I'll wait for the reviews.
10-16-2010, 12:55 PM
Baron_Davis

I'm glad XFX is looking for ways to improve upon the crappy old design that's been used far too long. Also looking forward to the single slot design...I've always dreamed of 4 way crossfire with medium to high end cards. Usually the single slot ones are really weak value cards.
10-16-2010, 02:04 PM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by Baron_Davis

I'm glad XFX is looking for ways to improve upon the crappy old design that's been used far too long. Also looking forward to the single slot design...I've always dreamed of 4 way crossfire with medium to high end cards. Usually the single slot ones are really weak value cards.

58xx reference coolers were cool, quiet and had huge reserves for some overclocking sessions

and i don't see the point in single slot cards unless you want to CF a µATX system
10-16-2010, 02:18 PM
Metroid

lol, glad I don't use aircooling. I can't stand noise like I used to, 31db 4400RPM :rofl: must be joking :ROTF:, more like 55db. :eek:
10-16-2010, 02:21 PM
Andi64

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Originally Posted by generics_user

and i don't see the point in single slot cards unless you want to CF a µATX system

It's allways nice to have the option. Some of us use the PCI or PCIe slots that are lost when you Crossfire.
10-16-2010, 03:00 PM
kadozer

Finally the Vapor chambers we've all heard about for so long is implemented. Can't wait to see performance reviews on stock cooling.
10-16-2010, 03:48 PM
Kai Robinson

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Originally Posted by paulhamm

Your eyes be damned! You sir should not be allowed to play with crayons.

But i like orange! :D
10-16-2010, 05:54 PM
Baron_Davis

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Originally Posted by generics_user

58xx reference coolers were cool, quiet and had huge reserves for some overclocking sessions

and i don't see the point in single slot cards unless you want to CF a µATX system

They were cool if u jack the fan up which makes them loud like any stock cooler. The 5850/5870 reference coolers are nothing to write home about. Infact I'd say they're pretty crappy. Almost all stock coolers are pretty crap. They're quiet at idle and loud on loud and they OC pretty bad unless u got lucky and got a sweet card. I'm def not surprised XFX is tryin to figure out better ways to cool the new ATI cards. If the reference design was so awesome, they wouldn't waste money on stuff like this.

Single slot is good cause u can run 4-way CF with a sound card, which u cannot do on any board with 2 slot coolers.
10-16-2010, 06:11 PM
ZL1Killa

i hate to say it but its going to come down to the *** **** driver.
10-16-2010, 08:57 PM
tbone8ty

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Originally Posted by kadozer

Finally the Vapor chambers we've all heard about for so long is implemented. Can't wait to see performance reviews on stock cooling.

The 5770 had one
10-17-2010, 12:24 AM
N19h7m4r3

SO far they look good. I'm looking to go air again for my next build, which will by no means be high end again.

So come on 6870, outperform my old 4870x2 and be nice cheap and quiet and I'll get you my little pretty thing.

:D :p: ;)
10-17-2010, 12:49 AM
STEvil

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

and that would improve crossfire scaling right ???

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Originally Posted by Vardant

Not really, it would be a suicide to put it there now.

It still needs profiles and they are far behind what NV or ATI has to offer now in their drivers. They also lag behind badly, when a new game gets released. And it doesn't support Win XP or DX11.

About the scaling.. maybe, maybe not.

Profiles would be dependent on ATi.. er AMD as they always have been. The chip would only be functioning as a PCI-E switch so only basic lucid drivers (at the most, if at all) would be required.
10-17-2010, 03:15 AM
mAJORD

wow.. 2C

Hooray for XFX logos!

we'll see aircraft shaped like them soon
10-17-2010, 04:19 AM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by kadozer

Finally the Vapor chambers we've all heard about for so long is implemented. Can't wait to see performance reviews on stock cooling.

sapphire vapor-x had them; 5770 had one (although the VC cooler completely sucked); 5870 and 5970 had vapor chambers

@Baron_Davis: all dual slot aircoolers suck under load (that's why i use watercooling) in terms of noise OR temperature; all i say is that the amd stock coolers on 5850 and 5870 were better than almost every dual slot aftermarket cooler and custom design (only one better than the stock coolers is the sapphire vapor-x); additionally most custom PCBs sucked compared to the reference cards (voltage control)

and if a ref. cooler is inaudible @ idle (which was the case with 5850, 5870and 5970) and has reserves that allow overclocking to over 950mhz it's great (this was the case with 5850, 5870 and 5970), if you want it to be quiet @load you have to look at triple-slot designs or watercooling...
10-17-2010, 07:26 AM
Vardant

So, what did I tell you?

HD6850:
960 SP
775 MHz
4000 MHz GDDR5
$200

HD6870:
1120 SP
900 MHz
4200 MHz GDDR5
$275
10-17-2010, 07:32 AM
Mech0z

Its rather expensive, I hoped 6870 would replace 5770 in price :)
10-17-2010, 07:41 AM
Mechanical Man

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Originally Posted by Mech0z

Its rather expensive, I hoped 6870 would replace 5770 in price :)

Why would it be called 6870 then? x770 has its own price spot. Its basically getting x870 back to price range where it belongs to.
10-17-2010, 07:46 AM
eXa

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Originally Posted by Vardant

So, what did I tell you?

HD6850:
960 SP
775 MHz
4000 MHz GDDR5
$200

HD6870:
1120 SP
900 MHz
4200 MHz GDDR5
$275

Where do you get the price from?
10-17-2010, 07:46 AM
Manabu

It is a bigger silicon area than HD5770, and has more expensive cooling. It is the same process, not an shrink. So there is no way they would cost the same, especially with Nvidia uncompetitiviness. And HD5770 had an initial MRSP of US$ 170.
10-17-2010, 07:47 AM
BeepBeep2

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Originally Posted by Mechanical Man

Why would it be called 6870 then? x770 has its own price spot. Its basically getting x870 back to price range where it belongs to.

Because it's not a high end card.

Remember, Juniper will be renamed to 67xx.
10-17-2010, 07:57 AM
Vardant

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Originally Posted by eXa

Where do you get the price from?

Newegg

I was a little off before, because I had our prices and I didn't think they will overcharge us so much...

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