Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

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04-07-2008, 09:17 AM
Amey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

If you want the LP790FX M2R buy it now, they appear to have gone EOL replaced by the dark version.

I like the Gigabyte although not as many tweaks

im testing the Asus soon...Missed delivery today :( LOL

EOL so early ?
Damn,anyways i wont be buying such an expensive board right now.Looking at the Dark,Asus and MSI.
04-07-2008, 09:21 AM
Undersea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

If you want the LP790FX M2R buy it now, they appear to have gone EOL replaced by the dark version.

I like the Gigabyte although not as many tweaks

im testing the Asus soon...Missed delivery today :( LOL

The differences between the LP and DK modes of the board.

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_...0790FX-M2R.jpg

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_...790FX-M2RS.jpg

1)6 v 4 SATA
2)Fancy cooling
3)Better Power regulation on UT.
4)HT freqency higher on UT?? Thought I read that.???
5)UT has better sound option. The sound on the DK is fair.
6)UT with two lan ports.
7)UT with 1394 port & Sil3142
8)Cost Newegg UT $242 vs $169.99. The DK model at motherboardpro is $149.99.

For me money was the decision. I wish my 9850 was here now but I screwed up cancelling an order and now I have to wait :(

Funny the 790 cooler runs hot as hell on the DK model, touch it and see. I have heard no thermal paste by someone. I tried to replace with another cooler(4 to be exact) but its way too small an area. I finally removed and reapplied paste(Rice Grain) and added (Foam Tape) a fan from one of the failed coolers and now the temp is 20c less and passes the touch test.
04-07-2008, 09:41 AM
keithlm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undersea

1)6 v 4 SATA
2)Fancy cooling
3)Better Power regulation on UT.
4)HT freqency higher on UT?? Thought I read that.???
5)UT has better sound option. The sound on the DK is fair.
6)UT with two lan ports.
7)UT with 1394 port & Sil3142
8)Cost Newegg UT $242 vs $169.99. The DK model at motherboardpro is $149.99.

For me money was the decision. I wish my 9850 was here now but I screwed up cancelling an order and now I have to wait :(

Ah you guys scared me for a second. Sounded like there was a major change.

I saw the M2RS on newegg... but decided to spend the extra money for the better sound AND better cooling. Better power regulation? Hadn't realized that... but I'll take it. Don't need the added SATA ports. (I use a RocketRaid 3120 to put 2 raptorx into a hardware Raid-0.)

If I can get away with using the ALC885 instead of the X-Fi I'll be happier because it works in FreeBSD and Linux. (But if it sux... then I'll end up using the X-Fi for gaming.)

Now I just want to find the VoIP daughercard for that soundcard. It would be fun to play with Skype using a regular telephone for awhile.
04-07-2008, 09:44 AM
Brother Esau

Its not a surprise that its a EOL product so soon:( its a awesome board but.....You cannot get the board to truly shine without a dedicated Raid Controller Card and AMD should never have implemented the SB600 controller on their new Platform Release! Outside of the SB600 the board ROCKS and I really love it but I also have a Areca Card too where most do not.:up:
04-07-2008, 10:02 AM
Tony

well i asked Oskar today to consider a new LP board as phenom gets better. Can stay analogue power but more phases and SB700.

I think there is a place now for a new monster board
04-07-2008, 10:19 AM
generics_user

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

well i asked Oskar today to consider a new LP board as phenom gets better. Can stay analogue power but more phases and SB700.

I think there is a place now for a new monster board

i actually think of a second daily use rig (current one in sig) as i do alot of video encoding + gaming so i consider of going back to AMD for this one (personally i don't like overclocking on intel platforms and phenom seems to be a huge stepup for video encoding), so i have a question about this board:

Sapphie pure crossfirex

does it have the same BIOS as the dfi lanparty and if it doesnt have it, can i flash it with the dfi bios?

EDIT: i know that it'S abit offtopic, but does anybody know where to get a pc case with 2 atx trays? that would be really nice
04-07-2008, 10:46 AM
SkullCracka

Quote:

Originally Posted by generics_user

i actually think of a second daily use rig (current one in sig) as i do alot of video encoding + gaming so i consider of going back to AMD for this one (personally i don't like overclocking on intel platforms and phenom seems to be a huge stepup for video encoding), so i have a question about this board:

Sapphie pure crossfirex

does it have the same BIOS as the dfi lanparty and if it doesnt have it, can i flash it with the dfi bios?

EDIT: i know that it'S abit offtopic, but does anybody know where to get a pc case with 2 atx trays? that would be really nice

yes there the same and yes i have seen a few post around the net were they have used the dfi bios on the sapphy and vise versa.

waiting to hear tonys thoughts of the Asus Deluxe. :D
04-07-2008, 11:01 AM
jonspd

tony any chance in running the F@H smp client to see what frame rate you get around 3.0ghz+ ?
04-07-2008, 12:30 PM
@rne

Tony, i really appreciate your work. Thank you for sharing your impressions.:clap:
04-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Tony

Anyone got the hardware tool to reflash a dead Gigabyte DQ6 :( and in the UK?

back up bios...what a waste...no boot, no play...back to DFI ;)

Anyone got the hardware to help me, i can ship the board tomorrow?
04-07-2008, 01:08 PM
Brother Esau

I have one but a little far away to be of assistance Tony:(
04-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Tony

You have the new attachment for the 8 pin bios IC's?

I have the flasher for standard socketed bios but these new IC's are totally different.
04-07-2008, 01:38 PM
Brother Esau

I have to see a pic tony is that possible? They are DIP socket correct?
04-07-2008, 01:39 PM
BrokenWall

Tony might want to see if you can get your hands on a preview board from Foxconn, their 790FX board will be paired with the SB700 southbridge.

Or if you don't mind one of the Abit, DFI 780G boards comes with the SB700 southbridge.
04-07-2008, 01:49 PM
Tony

Im promised the foxconn by their UK rep, So we wait and see
04-07-2008, 01:51 PM
Brother Esau

You have PM Tony;)
04-07-2008, 01:54 PM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Esau

I have to see a pic tony is that possible? They are DIP socket correct?

It is soldered on the board.
04-07-2008, 01:59 PM
Brother Esau

Thats fixed easy enough:slapass: :D I saw a pic on the net just now of the Boards Bios chip I am waiting to here back from Tony though if I can help I will most certainly:)
04-07-2008, 02:30 PM
GenTarkin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

a few of my reviewer buddies have been telling me Phenom gives games a smoothness that is not there on Intel rigs...Yes the frame rates may be a little lower but when on full load the Phenom's just pure along allowing the game to flow.

That has done it for me, a phenom will for sure be my next upgrade. I was debating the easily overclocked Q6600 vs waiting for the B3 for a long time...with these clocks and the above statement....that does it for me =)
I could care less about FPS if the game is all choppy for no reason I can tell....smoothness is what ranks highest on my "best platform for gaming" charts =)

Although, I do fold and was hoping for some decent folding numbers SMP from phenom @ 3ghz....I can only hope =)
Thanks again Tony =)

PS....just wanted to note...guys take a look at the 7 reviews left on newegg's site for 9850's ... seems those with these chips are hitting 3ghz on air EASILY at stock volts and higher with a bit of a challange. One guy apparnetly ran 3.5ghz in 3dmark06!!! .... if this trend keeps going and those posts are legit....DAMN GO AMD!!!!!
04-07-2008, 02:50 PM
BrokenWall

I would like to get a hold of a Foxconn 790FX or 780a board for team ATL.
04-07-2008, 03:03 PM
aGeoM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Anyone got the hardware tool to reflash a dead Gigabyte DQ6 :( and in the UK?

back up bios...what a waste...no boot, no play...back to DFI ;)

Anyone got the hardware to help me, i can ship the board tomorrow?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

It is soldered on the board.

Hipro did an hot-flash on a soldered board. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...22&postcount=1

Maybe it could help in your problem, you will need an similar board.
04-07-2008, 03:07 PM
prostoman

Brother Esau, when are you getting your piece of AMD 9850? I wanna see more of these overclocked to figure out what an avarege chip will do.
04-07-2008, 03:31 PM
BrokeDown

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenWall

I would like to get a hold of a Foxconn 790FX or 780a board for team ATL.

Same here. I'm still not a fan of ATI. They make nice cards I just think Nv is better overall.

a 780a board with SLI or Tri-SLI and a 9850 would be a nice setup.
04-07-2008, 03:39 PM
Brother Esau

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenTarkin

That has done it for me, a phenom will for sure be my next upgrade. I was debating the easily overclocked Q6600 vs waiting for the B3 for a long time...with these clocks and the above statement....that does it for me =)
I could care less about FPS if the game is all choppy for no reason I can tell....smoothness is what ranks highest on my "best platform for gaming" charts =)

Although, I do fold and was hoping for some decent folding numbers SMP from phenom @ 3ghz....I can only hope =)
Thanks again Tony =)

PS....just wanted to note...guys take a look at the 7 reviews left on newegg's site for 9850's ... seems those with these chips are hitting 3ghz on air EASILY at stock volts and higher with a bit of a challange. One guy apparnetly ran 3.5ghz in 3dmark06!!! .... if this trend keeps going and those posts are legit....DAMN GO AMD!!!!!

Yay:p: I ordered mine from EGGY and its on the way as we speak:clap: :clap: :clap: :hump:
04-07-2008, 03:58 PM
Charles Wirth

I picked up a 9850 for cold testing and to better educate myself on the bus and operational limitations. $400 with GA-MA790FX-DS5

The win at low Mhz is the onboard memory controller and very low latency achieved, a definite advantage for AMD.

My Kryotech has mounting for AM2 as well as adjustable in 1 degree ticks. Should be interesting if I can avoid the cold bug and hit max temp.

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