Tonyb - can you get us a copy of that 2002 of yours? Any word on the changelog?
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Tonyb - can you get us a copy of that 2002 of yours? Any word on the changelog?
What about 790FX boards? What about the promised voltage stability improvements? :shrug:Quote:
Beta BIOS Releases in Validation Testing as of 4/10/2011-
All 8xx Series Chipsets
im on bios 1102 and it wont let me update to any bios other than 1102, any ideas how to fix i ether get an error "this bios is older than the board" or "update module missing"
If you really cant flash ANY bios but 1102, you could try to corrupt the BIOS :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
im about to try flashing in dos but i hate doing that and when there is a tool in the bios to update the bios it should work.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
i just tried doing asus update and it said that the 2 bios had different subscripts so i should use dos.
i wish that i could just use winflash.
edit so bupdate in dos dose not work and gives me the same crap, is there a /option to force updates
Congrats - try thisQuote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
http://www.ami.com/support/downloada...ip&InpDrvID=90
afudos /insertbiosnamehere.rom /P /B /N /C
with the command u listed i get invalid mac address, with only /s to view my roms info i get that auf is not compatible. :(
i guess i get to play see how long until i get kicked from asus phone support tomorrow
and i dont see if im having this much trouble any "normal user" is supposed to do this.
Forget about 790FX,they did ,so way don't you ? You should look forward on am3+(am3b) ( 800 series ) motherboards or wait for 900 series.Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
It was a long shot to have a full working features bios for 790FX/GX with x6 CPU's.
so asus support said that i could rma the board, buy a new block ($5+15 shipped, WTF u just need 1 stamp and a padded envelope) or to swap the block. i have an identical board to it so i swapped the rom but it would not even flash with a hot swap so asus is incompetent when it comes it bios flashing.
dose any1 have a beta bios past 1102
Hey, my USB3 board flashes fine... :shrug: when I was on 1102 I had some problems but I tried a new ROM and it worked fine...must have been corrupt or something. chew* has a non-USB3 model, maybe PM him?Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
if i had money, yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by skill123
but not everyone is rich...
And there are still more than enough issues with certain 790FX ASUS boards + X6.Quote:
Originally Posted by skill123
But yes, maybe you are right and I should get a 800 or 900 series board, but it won't be from ASUS for sure, if they handle customer care like that.
(Thanks for nothing bingo13 :rolleyes:)
In what way is it Bingo13's fault?:shrug:
maybe he is too busy....
Cause he's the one who made false promises again and again for almost a year already? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyb
Asus did post a new bios :) for the M3A79-T Deluxe yesterday (1801). It states that it supports new CPUs. If you have a X6, try it and report back for the rest of us :up:
You still don't seem to grasp that attention has been completely derailed to Intel based boards... be already glad there is some sort of support and follow up. Maybe Bingo13 couldn't deliver to all of you, most issues have been sorted now. Be already glad the X6 runs on the 790 series, it for sure doesn't run properly on several 890GX boards I have laying around here, when being Oced...
But you will get it some day somehow when priorities/choices have to be made... Secondly it is not his job to be here, he just did it coz he likes the community... Maybe Raja can save your day...
If so, they should stop to sell AMD boards completely, if they don't even care about supporting them ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Very intelligent input darling.... Are you continously gonna fill the thread with these kindda posts ?... In any way , I hope it makes you feel good...
Why don't you tell us what your issues are exactly. FYI, all my motherboards have issues : some have crap USB3 speeds, some older firmware then the owner, some don't resume from sleep... if oyu keep on ... bout it it iwll not help , nor go away. If you don't like Asus Support go with MSI, Gigabyte,... and move on...
And again Bingo did this in his free time... it's not in his job description to be here anway...
Lets play nice guys..
Life is what it is and no use complaining about it.
Just ups your blood pressure and aggrivates others..;)
PS: I've been looking for a certain Asus BIOS for a year+ but no sense biatching..
If it comes it does. If not then it doesn't but either way life goes on..
Also would like to say something about Bingo13:
He had family issues, big ones.
A kid with Cancer.
People in those situations you just plain don't bother at all if you have any sort of class.
Dave, how is his kid doing? It's been half a year since he mentioned her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Of course it isn't his job to spread lies about upcoming bios releases that never happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
And about "my" issues, just check bingo's posts he made about 8-9 month ago about things that will come "very soon" regarding voltage issues etc.
At least he could have said that very soon is never going to happen ;)
What you need to do is learn a bit of respect and watch your mouth. Most all your posts are whining in this thread. If you are so unhappy the solution is easy. Move on to a different board.Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
If you want to point fingers feel free to point fingers at me.Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
I give Asus feedback and do quite a bit of testing, sometimes however there are other priorities.
Unfortunately those priorities have shifted to intel. Whether I like it or not in order to be able to help out with AMD i must also help out with intel since they are the majority market.
I have neglected ( I do this on my own freetime ) to work on boards that are 1 node back and to be quite honest soon they will be 2 node's back making them even less of a priority.
Regardless of any of that many times I will report back and say you know what considering it was never meant to support said product it's good enough.
Now as far as your voltage issue what are they? can they be fixed with a hard mod? If provided with a mod would you do it?
It's quite possible that may need be the case ( If you want to play overclocker your going to have to mod like an overclocker ) considering thuban power requirements differed from deneb as well as TDP which 790 boards were tuned for.
There is only so much you can do with bios when it pertains to voltages, especially when the power requirements of boards then differed from the power requirements of newer cpu's.
Again awesomely constructive, I think you will soon get help now :down: If all could be solved in a bios update, wouldn't that be fab... think you got much to learn dude...Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
Gentlemen:
2nd request for some civility.
I don't ask a third time.
Is there maybe a little bit of overreaction going on? Asus support in my experience is dire. Any time I've tried to use it I normally wait a week before I get a poorly worded email back which is just my question reworded or something similar to turn it off and back on again. If you look at their support forums they're pretty much useless for information etc. It's possibly the only way Asus can compete though, since providing support is expensive, and there's a big appetite for it. But surely Bingo can handle a bit of criticism without everybody leaping in front of him... I'm not agreeing with diddi, I haven't actually bothered to find out what he's moaning on about. I'm just saying it might be best for everybody to calm down a bit and not read everything as personal attacks.
Fairly well said but my anger for lack of a better word was the comments based to Bingo13 knowing he'd been dealing with having a child with Cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halk
To me at least when your dealing with someone in that position you immediately take a mental step back and cut them some slack as we say here.
You just say to yourself that in the big picture your own little issues over things like bios pale in comparision to what he's dealing with.
Then you say a quiet prayer that the child manages to make it through this.
I had no intention of sparking off an argument I just asked the guy what was bingo13's fault, I doubt very much that he's the head man at ASUS or that he decides the policy for the support, I think we are lucky we have him at all. I've been in computers since the early 70's and I've found support from most manufacturers is not good at times, MSI and Gigabyte weren't the best at one time. I have a 790FX board (M4A79T Deluxe) with a 1090T in it and it runs quite well, maybe not as well as it could but it is pretty good considering. As to ASUS support a friend and I have had a graphics problem and ASUS support did a custom BIOS that fixed it which they didn't have to as it was basically a Windows problem that Microsoft were not interested in so in my book they are the good guys. I apologize for the post it was not meant the way it was taken.:shrug:
Halk, calling someone a lier is not a personal attack? As I already wrote if feelings about the support of the product reaches that level then it's time to move on to something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halk
Posting in this thread is not part of Gary's job. He does it as an extra to try to help out the user. He is also not the one writing the BIOS code. Something we should all keep in mind.
Praz, of course that is. I did say "not read everything as personal attacks", I wasn't meaning that specifically, I was meaning in general. You're quite right though that it shouldn't go to that level, regardless.
Long-term workaround: next time choose a different brand instead of ASUS. I think that MSI has a better support for example.
C'mon guys, real life comes first. If someone's loved one has health issues, it's top priority for him. Nothing else matters. Period.
I'm wishing a speeding recovery, wholeheartedly, and I don't even know the guy :)
But I should say that; the whole "Get a different brand, next time" thing it's a bit silly. Well Mr. Obvious, of course I'll get a different brand next time, but since I'm stack with that one now, I demand to get the support I bought, along with the product.
I know that bitc4ing to an xs member isn't of any use, but if a member is directly connected to company's support, it seem rather fair to get a good piece of "feedback"... PLUR :)
I'm going to tell you guys a little story and you can be a judge of character.
Quakecon this past year. Some girl from like 4 states away needed someone to diagnose her machine, I ran over with a port 80 and quickly determined her ASUS striker II was dead, most likely something bad happened in transit. So here is this poor girl 4 states away at quakecon with no gaming rig now and not enough money to buy one.
I felt bad she was an ASUS user and was going to have the worst quakecon experience ever. I asked Gary if we could help out thinking maybe he had an old socket 775 board laying around.
Gary went home and came back with a complete AMD rig from the ground up for her and built it right there on the spot and gave it to her. He spent the day assembling it installing OS and just about everything she could possibly need and then just gave it to her.
That is the type of person Gary is regardless of whether he works for this company or that company that tells me alot. Gary would give someone the shirt off his own back.
Think about that next time you verbally assault someone on a forum.
^moral of the story is that cute women get everything :mad:
seriously though, most people in the world are really awesome, but society likes to remember the negative things and they let it easily convince them of the wrong perspective of a person.
Tbh she was a preety decent sized girl and certainly not a model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
And yes I agree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccaution
you cannot hold asus for not giving u the best ever bios on a new product that came out while your part was legacy, they added x6 support that they did not have to and then they have to customize the AGESA code for a platform that is unsupported by the current gen parts AGESA rev. so its not like they gave nothing it works with the x6, but they cannot overcome the hardware problems with the old HT support on the 790 and they cannot go through and do a full optimization on the core bios code like they can with the new platforms. sure keeping voltage steady should happen but look at msi or gigabyte they are not doing any better. and when the BD comes out im expecting the same grade of support as u got with the the 790 to thulban, sure im sure it will work but ocing may not be up to par with the BD native platform.
( I'm on a CIVF so, nothing of the (correct) above you wrote, applies :) )
Gary is one of the most nice, generous, charitable people I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I for one wouldnt be half as well off if it werent for guys like Brian here and Gary Key @ ASUS. ...you guys have both done a lot for me and I know Gary cares very much about this community.
If your kid had cancer would you be focusing on minor bios updates for people on a forum that you dont even need to be at or taking care of your family?
Seriously, Gary donated to me half a system just because I took some risks with what I had and truely pushed my hardware way back when. Somehow I strayed away from trying hard for a while...Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Gary offered me an M4A89GTD Pro non USB3 board to pair up with my Gigabyte board because I was having problems with the IGP and ram clocking, sometimes the board wouldnt even post and appeared dead for hours...(and we know GTD clocks ram well)
I asked if there were any frills or suprises, he said no, just take the offer and enjoy the board...I was literally blown out of my mind so I gave him my addy.
Two weeks later, large 4 ft by 2 ft box ends up at front door... I find an M4A89TD Pro/US3 890FX board (significant upgrade), 40GB Intel SSD and a brand new ASUS 4870X2 TOP 2GB inside.
everyone knows that Bingo13 made this thread out of generosity .
BUT , when you say on 29/9 after a long period of absence and promises for new updates (very soon) :
After that you simply can't leave people alone again for more than 6 months without giving any kind of update . Doesn't matter if it is in his jobdescription or not . That's just common sense .Quote:
4. I am back on a consistent basis.
This hasn't anything to do with anyone having cancer at that time . Everyone on this forum felt for him and told him so .
Normal behaviour would be to at least say that we don't have to keep our hopes up and that any promises from his side are not being kept by Asus . At least not in the timeframe promised . And maybe a reason why Asus thinks that way .
Has anyone experienced any problems with X6 CPU's or bricked one with BIOS 3012?
Wasn't the last update 11/4/2011? that's earlier this month.
This has nothing to do with it.Quote:
If your kid had cancer would you be focusing on minor bios updates for people on a forum that you dont even need to be at or taking care of your family?
Up until ~a half year ago bingo said there will be something very soon for various 700 series boards (the M4A79 for example), but that never happened, he never even said anything about the reasons.
In the last few month his start post of this thread stated regarding bioses that are in validation "Just about all of them", but on April 11th he changed that text to 800 series only, once again without giving a statement about what happened with the other bios releases that where in validation a long time ago.
All I want from him is to give a clear statement regarding the bios updates that were meant to come.
Just checked my PMs. The last PM I got from him was from December 7th 2010, stateing once again that they got a beta bios for testing right now and that it will be, if nothing goes wrong, online in the next week.
But that, once again, never happened
3012 was already said not to be used with Phenom CPU's. It's an Orochi test bios, agesa updates are not even there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyb
I really hope you will take them very sad comments back asap... I really wish you will never ever be in sortlike situations... I feel very ashamed/dissapointed of some of the above posts, even by a fellow country man. You sound more like selfish spoiled brats. As long as you get yours, what happens to the others seems not important...
IF there was a functional beta bios available, I think he would have shared it... if not : wait or move on...
AGAIN : FYI not all issues can be reproduced by the testers... so where do you look for solution ? ... Can the solution be achieved via BIOS coding ? Hardware modding required ?
If you read similar posts, would you even care to come back ? I wouldn't ... nuff said... love me or hate me I couldn't care less... you two are in the ignore list... as common sense, is what you refer too, is impossible to achieve with the displayed attitude...
Ban me or not Dave, at least I won't be spending any more valuable time in this derailed thread...
I'm not using it I'm just curious, some guys seem to be using it with X6's. If it is not meant to be used why make it available on the downloads, if some people have pre-release bulldozer chips to test then it should only be available to them I would have thought but then I'm thick.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
If there never was any functional beta, he never should have said that he will post it very soon ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
what does Orochi mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Bulldozer, Orochi, Zacate, Llano, Ontario... are some of the codenames for the upcoming AMD chips mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erek
so Orochi (native 8-core) should work with the 3012 BIOS ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccaution
Orochi is the 8 core to be exact...which doesnt make sense because its also called Zambezi...so that matter is confusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccaution
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by erek
Thats what had me stumped. Brings back a memory in the 9th grade, a girl named Jessica and a serious case of Blue Balls. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
So, any word for the changelog on this puppy?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-3017.zip
:)
same,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccaution
M4A89GTD-PRO-USB3-ASUS-3017.zip
( The extreme iv - got it too... ;) )
A lot of the boards seem to update at once now...and at the same numbers ie a lot of boards were at 1902Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccaution
By number only looks like another Orochi test bios, considering 3012 was an orochi only test bios.
There's a new one for the ch4 formula as well, but no notes about it yet.
There are notes on the 1902 now and it's available for dl too.
You can get the 3017 at the ftp:Quote:
Crosshair IV Formula 1902 BIOS
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...Language=en-us
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ir_IV_Formula/
Orochi..., that's my kitties name.
Mean little guy...
3017 is an Orochi bios, 3012 was removed and the size difference makes sense...also 3017 is avail. for all the boards (CHIVF/E, GTD/TD)
Just curious, has anyone tried 3017 on the C4F with Thuban?
It's OrochiPI 0.0.7.4-1, playing with it at the moment seems quite good and it's stable, they've removed the CPB mode so it can't be disabled.
Thanks Tonyb!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyb
I'll be up for another hour or so, so I'll give it a try.
I'll probably run BD on this board at first anyway, so it couldn't hurt to get a feel for the newer bios... :up:
M3A79-T Deluxe 1801 BIOS
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...Language=en-us
http://support.asus.com/Download.asp...eluxe&p=1&s=24
What would you say the most stable bios for the CF IV is with a 6 core CPU. I am at 1102 now? From time to time it will not see the SSD at boot.
I think 1902 has been for me. Running a 1100t
Is it possible to flash to the beta BIOS with a Phenom II chip?
@bingo..........Hey brother whats up?:D Hey, man is that your car in your avatar? If so that's a sweet ride and I wouldn't mind taking that puppy for a spin!
Yes it is :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I have the 3017 on mine now with Phenom II x6, just seeing how it is. It isn't a recommended bios though, for Phenom that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by freeloader
Bingo13,
I have updated my C4F BIOS to 1902...
and after my OC Station becomes kind of funny...
like not shut down properly and keep showing error when boot into Win7-64bits
any idea why this happened? Thanks you~
I've been on the 1902 for some time now.
I like it.
I haven't tried the latest beta yet though.
Next time you guys release a board though, for the love of god, make sure those stand offs are correct...
The box should have a sticker on it saying grinder needed.
After swapping them around, my sb is now hotter then my cpu :\, and hardlocks are still there yay lol.
I'll take them off to a grinder eventually and shave off a few mm's on each one.
Does anyone know, since the new crosshair has the new ROG UEFI if there are any plans to bring it to CHIV also.
no, eufi needs a u to change the chip that controls the base boot from one that dose bios to one that dose uefi on the chipset needs to directly support it. also why do u want eufi it dose nothing for you other than boot to a 3TB drive and u should not have an os partition that large so a raid partition will allow u to boot to the drive, and they seam less stable when recovering a bad oc (but that could have changed)Quote:
Originally Posted by repman
and with windows8 next year MS is supposed to make it so u can boot to a GPT partition and not only an MBR with a bios so there is no loss in sticking with the bios.
Yep, Overclocked like crap..Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
...any beta BIOSes for AM3+ 9xx series (Crossfire V / Sabertooth 990FX) mainboards?
Check the first post in this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...rboard-SupportQuote:
Originally Posted by fastleo63
Ooops... Yes, I just subscribed to that thread. Thank you!
I had no issues OCing on that bios with 1100t
Wil FM1 boards bios'es will be posted here?
Well?
I think this forum has died since the Formula V came out.
@Tonyb : Can you post a link to your bios: 2002 please?
@Asus: How about some 890fx love? - specially a new bios with updated Raid option rom :)
Hi !! what's the changelog in 2002's bios ?Quote:
Originally Posted by nex_73
The 2002 BIOS is a custom BIOS that ASUS did to fix a graphics error in Win 7, it is based on the 1902 BIOS. If you want to try it email me at tonyb56@o2.co.uk and I'll send it to you.
email sent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyb
wondering about why there is two different version of 2201 for the m4a89gtd pro/usb3 ???
anyone have new bios (203) for K43TA notebook ?
new bios to fix background color same 24 bit.
mail sent ! Thanks a lot !Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyb
I hope it is as good as the 1304 bios
Hi Nex_73, i saw your X6 overclock can you say me your vcore and settings please ????Quote:
Originally Posted by nex_73
Great thanks man !
I guess that means, that bingo won't post anything for any board here anymore, not just for those with 790fx chipset (and the never kept promise about voltage stability fixes)
Seth and Skull I've emailed the BIOS let me know if you get it OK or not.
First of all, he has (had) a daughter with cancer...Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
Secondly, he travels a bit and it is not his job to post here...
I wasn't able to get a hold of him on the forum here, but he is still active.
First of all, I only said that I guess that there won't be more support for the 890FX boards then there is for the 790FX boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Secondly, at least he could have said something like "Sorry, but we couldn't manage to get the things to work that we promised to fix" or at least make a short post like "Sorry there won't be any updates for a while".
I know about his daughter, but if he was and is here on the forum, and has enough time to post in several other threads, why he can't just give a short statement in this thread?
Yes, it isn't his job to post here, but he started this thread and he made some promises.
The 890FX boards will still get support, the 790FX probably won't. ASUS is still actively working on the 890FX boards to give them support with Bulldozer, however the 790FX boards are a full two gens behind now, and anyone using one probably should have upgraded by now, stuck it with a quad for their wife or child, or shouldn't be trying to overclock a thuban to hell on one; anything crazy like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
I emailed him yesterday, and got an answer. To be honest, I think he'd be on the forum if he had the time to be on the forum.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
exactly what i'm saying here for months . While people keep saying that updates will come and bios' will be posted , they were wrong .
This might be true now, but it wasn't back then when bingo first talked about upcoming changes that will be there "very soon".Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
At least he could have said then "Sorry, we just keep waiting until the current generation is outdated to get a reason why we don't support it anymore" instead of "there will be something very soon"
I guess the real problem is, that he isn't and was never really involved in the ASUS "bios" R&D, so he has no real influence on which platforms they will support and which not. They might told him at some point that there will be a fix for the voltage stability issues on the 790FX boards, but changed their plans in order to focus their support on the 890FX platform back then.
I don't care about that promised fix anymore (or about any ASUS product to be honest).
I just don't get why he didn't simply state that there won't be anything and why it won't be there instead of making a promise and ignoring any requests regarding that promise for over a year after it.
He did not even say something like "No there won't be any further 790FX support".
edit: another reason could be that they always knew that it was more or less impossible to fix that voltage instability issue bios wise. Before bingo said that they are working on that issue, I already had the feeling that there isn't much they could do about that "design issue" that caused that problems. Maybe the reason why he said that they are working on it was, cause they stil wanted to sell boards with that issue back then and knew that it won't be a good idea to state, that the issue can't be solved or that they won't work on it. How could they say "sorry, but our expensive high end board you just bought has some design issues that we won't be able to solve"? So all they could do was to wait, play some kind of "time game" until that faulty mainboard generation was old enough to stop any support for it.
It's a pointless slagging off a guy who probably has no influence over ASUS policy on BIOS support, in the past he has helped a lot of people in spite of serious personal problems when most guys would probably have said sod it and left us to it. It stands to reason that ASUS (along with the other companies) will be concentrating on the 990FX boards especially the Formula V (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1616542&page=5, http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1612748&page=4) which seems to have a few teething problems but that doesn't necessarily mean they have abandoned the 890FX and 790FX boards time will tell. I personally have a 1090T running fault free in an M4A79T Deluxe board and my Formula IV systems are working great as well.
ok it's good ! Thanks a lot ! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyb
Well, it's possible to toy around with switching frequencies and LLC to achieve a desired effect...Quote:
Originally Posted by diddi35
And this is what I was waiting for, options in the bios to do so (on the M4A79 Deluxe for example). Back then bingo said that there will be such options very soon for that board (even it won't be as good as they are for the 890FX boards). But this was over a year ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
its not beta any more. but 2301 is now listed. just loaded it anyone else? all it says is improved system compatibility.
2301? where from Skull and which board?