Same thing that happened to me. Worked yesterday, didn't today... Not a clue what it is. I raised the NB-CPU voltage and its been working well, but I have no confidence that it fixed the problem (or that it is fixed). I shut it off, let it cool down, rebooted, then it BSOD again....Quote:
Originally Posted by aGeoM
This Phenom 9850 is a tricky unearthly being I tell you
@aGeoM...Drop your HT Link Speed down and see how you fair at that point please:)
finally reached 3,595ghz @ 1,6v but not 3dmark-stable and only small improvement on super pi compared to 3,56ghz...
reached 3,595ghz as well with 1.5 but not stable.
I may try 1.55
Hottest Ram on Earth:confused: Where the heck do you get that from Oli?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oese
These sticks are awesome and kick it on low voltage and are incredibly Fast!
I really hate parting with them I do but its only economical for me to upgrade for testing by selling existing hardware to offset cost of this insane habit I have.
IMO the FLEX Series have superior cooling and also what I know is that they have been the best 2GB Kit of Ram I have owned since DDR2 switch over out of 5 kits of Ram that I have owned even better then the $330.00 set of CELL SHOCK PC2-8000 that I owned:yepp: too bad I cannot even begin to get close to what I paid for them back in oct which was $240.00 .
Contact me through PM Oli I don't want Vapor on my ass and no doubt he looks for opportunity to kick me in the nuts and give me brownie points:D
don't get me wrong.. i did not mean temperature... ;)
Brother Esau,
Have you started to work through some of the BIOS settings for the Phenom yet? I looked through the early ones you posted, they seemed much more oriented toward the X2..... If there are some X4 ideas, I must have missed them (this thread is getting a bit LONG!!)
There are a zillion settings that may indeed affect stability for phenom OC'ing, but I have no idea what they do. :confused:
Here are some that I do not understand
From Advanced Chipset Features
Memory Hole
Memory Hole Remapping
Auto Optimize Bottom IO
From Genie (these are all somewhat mysterious for sure)
DCTs Mode - Ganged, Unganged ?
IH Flow Control Mode - Enabled Disabled
HT Link Tristate - Enabled Disabled
2x LCLK Mode - Enabled Disabled
UnitID Clumping - Enabled Disabled
CPI DID - 1,2,4,8,16
CPU FID - 09 or some other Hex number
CPU-NB FID - 1,2
CPU-NB FID - 06 or some other Hex number
AMD CPU Stepping - P0, P1
Any direction of help would be appreciated
Thanks
Dan
Greetings, my M2R got here yesterday, along with my 9850BE, my ram wont be here till Monday, in the mean time should I remove the chipset, and PWM heatsinks and check the grease, maybe put some AS5???
Not sure how much I can push it till I get a new PSU, gonna use my ANTEC 550watt TP2 till I get a new one....
It will also have TRUE on the CPU..
You mean 1.8 MHz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Tony recommended a 7x ht multi above 3GHz.
Why would you guys use a lower multi with an unlocked CPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Getting an higher cpu multi work more stable with an lower ht multi is the point here. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
OK, I'll give it a try, I'm burnig it ATM at CPU=3100;HTT=200;HT=2000;NB=2400;CPU-VID=DEFLT*109.15%;CPU-NBv=DFLT*103.7%Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
My POV is lower HT multi if higher HTT, but testing Tony's recommendation cost me nothing. :D
Maybe 331 it's better for B3's, and works that way...humm lot's of work to be done.:yepp:
Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
The answer on that one is no I have not done any extensive testing on Phenom as of yet and actually learning the ropes myself:p: Also I do not know if you are aware of this but allot has transpired in my life since a couple of months ago. Moved back East cats been really sick been sick with the flue myself and blah ,blah ,blah and so on:D
I really have a hectic time since move just so much to do and also set backs along the way do not help much either. I only got the Phenom like a week ago anyways:ROTF:
In the HT Setting menu just worry about the top two and for now just leave the other 3 as is please!
Also what you want to do is quite simple Read this Guide on Phenom Architecture and Overclocking written by OCZ Tony......Click Me>>> Here!
This should help:Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.hp?t=258
THANKS GUYS!!! Terrific article by Tony. He's always very knowledgeable on the OCZ forums for sure.
Now I understand most of the things that I was scratching my head about....
I'm still having flakiness with the M2R and the 9850, but I have to play around a bit more. Running my memory @ 800 for the moment. Might buy the Reaper kit Campbell bought, but no one has them....
I also have a brand new Asus M3A32 MVP that I might unpack to test with. My first one spontaneously combusted (for real) and I had to RMA. Bought the DFI as a replacement, been very satisfied so far, nice BIOS for sure compared to the Asus.
Sorry about your cat dude, its a bummer, as we get quite attached to those little creatures. A couple of years ago, our great female cat (the one with the personality, as opposed to the male who was a dope), was sleeping under the open garage door, under the photo eye for the opener (she was small). We hit the garage door button, the garage door closed, and she got, well you know. Still a bummer.... a wonderful animal. We all miss her.
BTW, I'd be more than happy to beta test firmware. Been an engineer in the biz for 2 decades, and am used to pulling my hair out (although I have none left :rofl: )
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slagathor
To be honest the TIM that D.F.I is using is Shinetsu and you really cannot get better temps then what on there I have tried with Arctic Silver Ceramique and I actually just not long ago removed the Heatpipe assembly and reapplied the Shinetsu that comes with the Transpiper Kit and the temps actually improved:yepp:
I would say carefully take it apart and Inspect it and see if the Shinetsu is applied properly as sometimes some say they there was not the right amount applied but thats really the odd ball case!
If it needs a little more just add some shinetsu if it does not just re-assemble:up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
OK...Cool please send me a PM saying you wish to do so as I keep records of who tests Beta Bios so I have it logged so I know who is testing and is eligible for Free re-programming:yepp:
The compound they use is actually not a patch on the OCZ freeze, i have never seen anything work so well and have next to no exposure on the net.
I know I cannot believe its not a staple amongst Overclockers in general:confused: I will be ordering a tube for myself and thanks for reminding me Tony I keep forgetting to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Two issues.
1. I decided to try the M2R on my bench with the following config:
(1) ATI HD 2600 card in PCIe Slot 1
(2) 1gb memory modules in DIMM1+2
(1) Phenom 9600
(1) USB Floppy
using a Thermaltake Toughpower 850W
Provided 24-pin, 8-pin power to mobo; 4-pin CPU fan; provided 4-pin floppy style power to the first PCIe slot.
Other than that nothing is plugged in.
The BIOS is 12/11/2007 I believe (from what I saw at startup after clearing CMOS)
I have cleared the CMOS.
It gets to "AMD Data Update... Updating DMI Data... Success"
and then nothing at all happens. I waited 30 minutes each time and tried 3 times.
Something is wrong but I have no clue what it could be.
I also tried optimized BIOS settings, no good.
I also tried manually setting a bunch of things not in use like the 3132, SB600 IDE, etc. No good.
I can't even boot from floppy to flash the BIOS.
Any clues as to what is going on?
Issue #2:
I want to use this board with 3x HD 3870 hardmodded to 1.7V and running around 1000MHz GPU each (some over, some under).
I also want to use a Promise PCIe x1 FTTX4650 card in the PCIE x4 slot with the 3 video cards. According to the manual this is not possible, which would seriously piss me off, why put it there if you cannot use it.... has anybody used 3 video cards (16x/8x/8x I believe) with something in the x4 slot too?
Sapphire Bios Guide says:Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
Quote:
HT Link Width: 16bit/8bit mode, CPU to NB bus hyper transfer bandwidth
HT Link Frequency: 200~2600MHz (2.6GHz), CPU to NB bus hyper transfer speed
IH Flow-Control Mode: Enable to support the use of the Isochronous Flow-Control Mode
function to provide reduced latency for certain classes of southbridge traffic
HT Link Tristate: Enable to tristate parts of the link in order to reduce power consumption.
By default, no lanes are tristated. The CAD and CTL lanes may be tristated together or CAD,
CTL, and CLK may be tristated.
2X LCLK Mode: nil (will be removed by next version)
UnitID Clumping: Enable to support UnitID clumping to increase the number of outstanding
requests supported by a single device. It maybe enabled for PCI-Express GFX links in certain
configurations. Clumping may be enabled when using only the lower number bridge within
each PCI-Express GFX core
Tony,
By the way, the B3 Article at TTR was quite good. Took a couple of reads, but it was very informative. Actually cleared up quite a few confusing bits from the DFI BIOS and AOD. AOD actually has some benefit now that I have a Phenom parked on the board. I found little use for it with the BE 5000.
I just ordered some DDR 1066 2X2GB Reaper kit from MWave.
Looks like I've got enough ideas to work on the best clock I can get out of the BE 9850. Hopefully we can get the 790FX-M2R and the 9850 to behave consistently at higher clocks. Then I can install the Reaper kit and see if I can get the whole shebang working at peak performance.
Nice info
remember AOD shows yellow default for B3's and is fast, Red is even faster though.Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
regards the reapers im beta testing a new spd, im thinking of letting you and Campbell have a play with it to see what you think.
9750 and 8650X3 arrived today, more testing soon
Thanks Tony,Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
BTW, I duplicated precisely what Nico did over at TTR. (only real diff is my memory is A-Data DDR800 2x2g, but I also have a set of Crucial Ballistix PC8500 2x1g I may play with before my Reapers show up)
Same exact behavior Nico cites, whereby I cannot boot reliably into windows at multi 15, but need to use AOD to get it to 3Ghz via a 15 multi whence I'm already booted successfuly.
It appears that lowering the HT freq to 1.4Gh actually does something for stability.
There is something awry in the system in general, something out of balance (a tremor in the force) that needs to be ironed out. Not sure if its BIOS based, or something simply based on behavior of Phenom. The thing just doesn't feel right to me. BE 5000 was rock solid at 3.3Ghz. This Phenom thingy is out of reach at the moment in terms of consistency
There is a consistent inconsistency around performance. I'm having trouble getting repeatability with setup. Sometimes, it will boot fine with a 15 multi and a voltage boost to CPU. Other times, exact same settings will BSOD. Sometimes, AOD works, other times, it hangs the system completely. Smart Guardian is neither smart, nor a guardian, but its better than nothing I guess. And AOD for me at least, with SG loaded seems to conflict with Everest. I'm gonna ask Fiery at Lavalys if there is anything they've detected at the kernel driver level that is clashing with AOD.
I have to believe that our DFI friends will have to do some more work with Firmware vis-a-vis Phenom in general in order to iron out these inconsistencies. I imagine some core of the firmware comes from AMD anyway, and hopefully those guys are in the game also now that B3 is out.
If we could just get some consistency around labeling and terminology between AOD, BIOS, memory, and DFI SG, that would go a long way toward diagnosing and optimizing (CPU, CPU VDDC, CPU VID anyone?, mean different things to each piece of software) :confused:
Hmmmmm..........Interesting I also notice something amiss with the X15 Multi myself! Glad you brought this up with the X15 Multi kinda not very friendly with that multi at all and noticed that the other day and this board most certainly Does Not do well on that Multiplier at all and serious boot issues do occur :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
DFI seriously need to pull the hooks out of their asses and get the proper AMD Overdrive support working with the Bios for it!!!!
Its puzzling actually. The main issue I see with the whole system is consistency at this point. My gut (which is substantial :D ) is telling me that there is something awry inside AOD, maybe its the low level filter driver that loads at runtime... Dunno.
What I've noticed is that if I use AOD stability test, when I come out of it, and try to then go do something else in windows, the system will hang, and the screen will become distorted. But if I boot, don't use AOD for anything, the system behaves much more consistently. I also asked Fiery at Lavalys about AOD, plus I installed the 4.5 version just now, and it hasn't crashed yet.
I saw this same behavior with NTune and early NForce 590 boards. Actually, very few Nforce board partners prepared their BIOS so that NTune would work properly, with the possible exception of EVGA/Foxconn, who don't really do software at all.
I would seriously avoid 2.0.17 ver of AMD Overdrive if I were you! Someone on dficlub said that AOD Version 2.0.14 works but have not tried that myself as of yet. Kinda AOD gun shy at this point!
Since a while I dont believe anymore in software OCíng. It's only usefull if you go with the very best, most unstable clocks and have to make 25 boot attempts to get one lucky shot and verify with CPU-Z.
Anyway, received my Phenom 9850BE. Stepping is this:
JAAFB AA 0810APBW
Im curious, although I got to solve some crap on my current hardware. Regarding this, Brother, please check your PM's:p:.
AOD 2.017 actually works pretty well now that I have a Phenom installed. It seems to do what it is supposed to do (whatever that is :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: ) But I have very low expectations for it :D
There is definitely some tightening up that needs to be done with AOD and Genie, that could make it quite nice. I am wondering if AOD was some kind of AMD test product, that someone said "Hey, the modder crazies would love that thing"
Anyway, you just can't make this stuff up. So after the crashfest, that was this morning, I set the multi to 15 in BIOS, just for grins, as well as Nico's exact settings from his TTR post. Wouldnt ya know it, the thing ran perfectly, as long as no AOD. Also ran Everest 4.5 full on, and zero problems. No smart guardian either. Just vista, a couple of drivers for all my tidbits (Razer sound, CCC, Steam, etc) and everest 4.5.
The thing ran like a champ, ran Hellgate for 2 hours, no crashing, nutin. Just ran perfectly.
Now I'm gonna try a test. I shut the machine off, gonna let it cool down for a while, then try and restart it and see if it comes back to life like I left it, or if it will lose its marbles again. If it blows up again after a cold start, then there is some state somewhere that is getting lost or corrupted. Could be my install of windows thats messy after weeks of jerking around, dunno. I might pull another raptor off the shelf, and do a clean install and see what happens.
Fingers crossed
What's the best (beta) BIOS atm for M2R and Phenom B3 btw?
Keep it to the basics if you want my help and install 1/30/08 Official please;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Well, remarkably, it decided to reboot, load windows and just run fine, after a 1 hour nap. Now I'm priming all 4 cores, and its doing dandy. And I though I was moody :rofl:
Been at Prime for nearly an hour now. Go figure.
Maybe there was a bigfoot sighting in sioux falls :shocked:
Truly the Flake-O-Matic this thing. Prime all 4 cores perfectly for nearly 2 hours. Also played an hour of Hellgate before that. Thing ran perfectly.
Now, I restart, and BANG ... BSOD.
I'm thinking that Windows might need a lobotomy. Something important might have become corrupted deep down inside during all my shenanigans.
Gonna do a fresh install, but keep my existing disk untouched and see what happens
OK. Here's the results of playing with this whole setup most of the day, aside from a flare up of reboot fatigue syndrome
The 9850BE seems to have no trouble running at 3Ghz all day. Its the DFI 790FX-M2R that seems to be having a schizophrenic time handling the 9850.
- The system will consistently RUN at 3Ghz.
- As Nico pointed out in his TTR post, it does NOT always like to BOOT to 3Ghz
- I can get it to boot to 3Ghz by having CPU voltage set to 112.82%, yielding 1.45V, which is somewhat high, but not ridiculous (I'm on water, although I'd be dubious about doing this on air)
- There is definite MISMATCH between AOD, Smart Guardian and Everest on many IMPORTANT readings to tweakers and modders. A variety of voltages are simply inconsistent
- One PECULIAR item of note, is that I boot using the BIOS voltage setting of 112.82%, which yields 1.45-1.47 volts in SG and Everest. the MINUTE I start up AOD, the voltage DROPS to 1.38-1.39 in SG and Everest.
- AOD definitely has value now with Phenom, but the BIOS and AOD do not agree. Voltages are clearly not the same in both.
All in all, my confidence with the Phenom is starting to grow. Its pretty obvious that more experience and testing is needed to further the development of Firmware for these motherboards, and to tighten up integration between AOD and BIOS.
Its clear to me that there is something that happens at boot time, that is different than run time as it relates to CPU state. My simple mind might drift towards there being some kind of voltage drop during boot up that causes the CPU to not be able to tolerate 3Ghz at bootstrap, causing BSODs. But after about a minute of steady state, the system runs just great and will Prime all night.
Sounds like allot of you guys come out like a six shooter with this Phenom and board:shakes: Not really the logical approach to doing this at all:rolleyes:
Not that I put myself on a pedastal by saying this but.....why is it that I am at 2800mhz @ 1.23v and have yet to have a BSOD in over a weeks time with the Phenom? I can tell you all why because I am using my common sense with the way I approach this and I also realize that before you can walk you must crawl and so forth with the progressive order of things;)
You fellas need to slow down and keep in mind there is allot of unchartered territory with whats being done on this forum as well as others so at the risk of getting shunned for being practical and patient with this whole Phenom process just keep in mind if you blow you're :banana::banana::banana::banana: up just remember I told you so.
Huh :shrug: All I was doing was posting a day's worth of testing observations. 2.8Ghz runs great for me too all day long, but I've been trying to figure out how to get 3Ghz to boot consistently, which it will not do, much as NicoOCZ has posted as well at TTR. Thats kinda all I wanted to show :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Heya Brother,glad to see you post about your 9850 :).Call me crazy(not really :) ) but i'm with you on this random BSOD thing people are experiencing with Phenoms.
Anyhow,report your findings Brother(and all of you Phenom ppl :D),i'm on the verge of buying one x50 chip for myself :D.
I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade with what I said and its not directed to anyone in particular its just some words of advice spoken generally from personal observation is all;) I am not the King of overclock by any means but I also have never fried a Motherboard , CPU , or Ram for that matter and I get what allot of people get on allot less voltage then people with the same overclock. Do I plan on having this stuff for 5 years hell no! I have changed systems like 10 times just this past year:p: But the fact is that I get what I want from what I have without sending it to the Electric Chair in the process and all of my stuff when sold and usually to members on the Forum here is all cherry and in Mint condition because I don't hit my stuff over the ass with high voltage.:yepp:
I see allot or most on the entire forum Reaching for the Voltage with this more is better mindset and guess what generally happens? The point I am making with this Psycho Babble is that the Voltage is the last thing you should reach for and only after all else and available options have failed:clap: :up:
I need some verification on some stuff from Members that have Hitachi Drives:)
Oddest thing my DFI Expert Board has gone bye bye:( and need to get it RMA'ed so I decided to Run Hitachi Drive Fitness Test on all of My Hitachi Drives today or at least 4 of them anyway and what I found after a 2 1/2hr session of attempting to Run the tests on the Drives on both the SB600 & Silicon Image v=controller is that Hitachi Drive Fitness Test as well as my $100.00 SPIN RITE6 Program thatss the standard in the IT Induastry and Pinacle of HDD Testing Software cannot and will not acknowledge either onboard controller and refuses to see any of the Hitachi Drives:mad: ....$^%^%#@#$^&^&* F@$R$$T$ ing SB600 ...POS:mad:
Can anyone with a Hitachi Drive please verify this Finding with Hitachi Drive Fitness Test in DOS? Now I don't expect any of you to own SpinRite6 as it costs $100.00 for the HDD testing Program vs the "FREE" H.D.F.T
are you just looking for another testing program that sees the drives....brother esau??
If so, I would recommend MHDD one of the most comprehensive free testing programs out there, it runs in DOS...its one of the many testing HDD tools on the ultimate boot CD...dos version I think its 4.1.1 right now.
Its awesome in my experience and it should be able to see your drives.
@nanohead: I had problems running at x15 multi too in order to get it to boot stable I needed almost .5v more for a total of 1.44v (still testing ~19h running BOINC) when at x14.5 multi I only needed 1.39 for it to be stable (~28h running BOINC).
Anything higher than x15 multi is a no go though tested until 1.525v in BIOS and it would boot until the windows orb and then BSOD.
I think that i'll try some HTT overclocking a little later just want to "break-in" my phenom right now.
Actually no that was not my intention as I have the Best HDD Diagnostic proram there is. What I am looking for is someone to verify on there end with a Hitachi drive that Hitachi Drive Fitness Test Does Not work on the controllers on this Motherboard, Raid Controllers such as mine are not supported by anything as far as I know for HDD Diagnostic Testing and you always have to use the one of the onboard ports for doing diagnostics with HDD's that reside on Dedicated Hardware Raid ControllersQuote:
Originally Posted by GenTarkin
Things are looking up today. got 4 hours Orthos stable on my 6400BE @ 3520 1.425v which would fail before.
see if i can out do Brother Esau 6400Be which was been passed on i see.
15 mins into Orthos @ 3550 1.425v ATM
you don't even have a chance! :frag: i got hands on a corsair dhx set yesterday and will be flying 3600mhz in a few hours... :D
LOL bring it on man :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Oese
OK perhaps a few days would have been more accurate... :rolleyes:
OK Orthos @ 3550 1.425v failed 25mins
Cant see my sig ?
Rrright v
you have 8gb of ram running??
Yup...they have to warm up, i found the same ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
There is new bios on the way from DFI I hear, we just need to wait and see what they managed to fix
Thanks Jaivan....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaivan
Yep, exactly the same thing I'm seeing. It'll run at 2.8Ghz (14x200) all day long at stock voltage. 14.5 needs around 1.37-1.39, and 15 won't boot consistently at any voltage. Funny thing is, that I can use AOD to turn up the multi to 15, and then Prime on all 4 cores forever. I'd be curious if you experienced the same thing. Booting is one thing, but running is another.
I also tried lots of different combinations of lowering HTT, and raising HT with a lower multi, etc. But the bottom line is an overall CPU clock limitation. No matter what recipe I used to get to 3ghz, the system was unstable and inconsistent. I read Tony's article, and tried lots of those tricks, but no matter what I did, higher clocks were unstable for day to day use on a gaming rig (after a while, I do get sick of playing with my system, and just want to play some games :D )
There's much more speed here with this 9850 for sure. Just gotta get past the booting issues and initial stability. Because it'll run so fast, I'm willing to bet that there is something that can be done in BIOS to make it more consistent
Yeah, its amusing actually. Never met a solid state device that needed to get cozy first before reporting to work :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Hey guys.....
Got all set up last night, I got the DFI 790fx-m2r with the 9850, and I got 2x2gb Mushkin Redlines DDR2-1000. Havent really messed much with it, but, I tried to slow the ram to 800, and when I do it wont get past the Verifying DMI Data Pool.
When I get home tonight I am gonna flash to the bios Brother Esaurecommends, I think the 1/30/08, not 100% sure right off.
But any ideas why this is happening?????
Yep 1:1Quote:
Originally Posted by Oese
Please tell me if that 2x2gb Redline PC2-8000 will boot at the 1066 divider please leave at all defaults and go into Dram Config Page and just change the Auto to Manual on the top of the page leave everything else as is at Auto!Quote:
Originally Posted by Slagathor
Main Genie Bios Page Change Ram Frequency to Manual and set 1066 divider Save/Exit:yepp:
Update:.... After Reinstalling Windows Vista 32 Bit without any Issues with it installing with 2x2gb OCZ Reaper HPC (PC2-8500) ;) what so ever I got all of my Updates and SP1 Installed it appears that the TLB Patch associated with Vista SPI update is not applicable in any fashion nor is it applied with the Phenom B3 rev in place:up:
"New" DFI UT 790FX-M2R ...4/15/2008 Beta Bios http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US
@ Brother
Linky is bad.
How are you guys getting these bios and are there beta available for the
M2RS?
Go to DFI's bios page and change the STATUS_FLAG=A attribute in the URL into STATUS_FLAG=B.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undersea
I tried it for the M2RS and there where no beta bioses. Site went down a minute later.
Yes, I am runing 1066 on the ram, everything else on auto.
this stuff http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146755
I think I got to reseat my TRUE, running the stability test in AOD and it's reporting 50c per core
DFI site keep getting a java sql error, was gonna go bios hunting..... :D
Green button = Bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slagathor
They always have issues with their server when Beta's are posted up on it and it takes a couple of hours or whatever for it to regulate:confused: why I do not know:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Undersea
I have not installed it as of yet have allot to do today and don't have time to get involved in all of that right at this moment:) By all means please some one install this Beta and give us some feed back on it:up:
No M2RS Bios M8 sorry, I checked though for you guys.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undersea
So, how do I go about making the button red????? heh
If you already grabbed the bios host it up m8 as it looks like the whole of DFI LP site is offlineQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
put the mouse over the button and left click ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Slagathor
There is also a new version for the sapphire clone available.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/ge/support/drivers.php
Sorry Tony did not download it figured I better wait because I would be to tempted to get involved with the Lunacy :nuts:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
BTW...have you suggested to Oskar that he get some better support for AMD Over Drive rolling with these Bios Releases that will be up and coming?
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/R7LD415.exe
This link should work. Has anyone flashed yet?
Not as of yet and if I may make a suggestion to all of us with this board that wishes to load this 4/15/08 Beta and test? I would say wait until the FTP Site is regulated and functioning normally so there is less chance of the actual file being corrupted from the download process:yepp:
I second that. Its nothing new though because lots of MB didn't run ntune right either in that era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Oh I got this :)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/814...new0113ha3.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1...new0115bw3.jpg
Announcement:.........Please any of you that wish to Participate in Beta Bios Testing you Must send me a PM requesting that you are on the Beta Testing crew:) I cannot and will not offer Free Re-Programming to those that have not and are not on my Beta Testing List!
Could you reprogram a M2RS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
[QUOTE=Undersea;2921201]Could you reprogram a M2RS?[/QUOTE]
Yes I can thats a non issue!
Another quick question about Motherboard temps.
I do believe I am running 12/11/07 bios, but, when running stress test
Everest reports motherboard at 75 and climbing, I installed the transpiper outside the case, and the heatpipe is very much warm.
How hot is to hot for the mobo????
Here is just 3 minutes of AOD stabilitytest:
That Bios was not a good release and should never have ended up on the Official List I would suggest you update to 1/30/2008 using the Zip Package
I hate to be a pain, but you wouldnt by chance have the 1/30/08 you could send me??? (there site still down)
And how do you recommend flashing????
I dont have a floppy drive, but I do have a 2gb USB stick.....
Or use Winflash???
I can send it to you via email:) send me a pm with your email please;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
YHPM.......
I turned up the multiplier, this is just freaky how it's done...heh
Leaving everything else alone for now.....
Also, I got a fan blowing on the heatsink over the PWM area, load temps decreased dramaticly[sp]
Got the bios, what a pain without a floppy.
But, it complained about partnumbers not matching......
Gonna Flash to 4/15/2008 Beta.........Be back soon.....I hope!:D
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Originally Posted by Slagathor
Do you have the 790FX-M2R or M2RS?
Attention: Updated Process For...... The :usa: :surf: Olympic Sport:surf: :usa: Of Bios Flashing:D
So Far the 4/15/08 Beta seems positive and keeping fingers crossed that it does well and is stable.
What I did was this.........
(#1) Download the 4/15/2008 Beta "Zip Package"
(#2) Format Blank Floppy Disk
(#3) Download DR Dos and send to Floppy Disk
(#4) Extract 4/15/2008 Zip Package to Floppy Disk ....NOTE: when 4/15/2008 Zip Package is Extracting to Floppy disk it will ask you if you wish to replace the AUTOEXEC.BAT File ......Click NO!
(#5) Make sure you do a proper clear cmos with the system Unplugged of course!
(#6) Only leave your USB Mouse plugged in and USB Keyboard /// ...Preferably its Best to Use a PS2 KEYBOARD over the USB Keyboard!
(#7) Boot up and Press "F1" to continue with Defaults Loaded
(#8) Boot into Pure DOS and when you get to A:\ Prompt ..Type this from A:\AWDFLASH.EXE R7LD415.BIN /CKS /SN /PY /CC /CD /CP /LD /QI /WB /CH /E ...(Hit Enter!)
(#9) Let the Flash Complete and the /E Switch that we included into the Switching Parameters will Return you to A:\ Prompt
(#10) at that Point when on A:\ Prompt Re-Type...A:\AWDFLASH.EXE R7LD415.BIN /CKS /SN /PY /CC /CD /CP /LD /QI /WB /CH /E
(#11) After the Second Flash is Complete and you return to A:\ and the Floppy light goes out please power down manually and do Proper 10-15 Minute Clear cmos
"EDIT" Proper Spacing of Flash Command Parameters is "CRITICAL"! This means the Dude from DFICLUB!
NOTE: The Reason to Flash two times using this method is because it will make sure that the old code that was stored on the Flash Chip is properly Over written without doubt or question and in return it yields a Much Cleaner Bios Flash for the Extra Effort!
BTW.....ROCK ON!!!:rocker:
M2R, if it's the S Newegg is gonna get a fone call...heh
Heres the one I ordered LINKY.
I was thinking it was from the USB stick I used, but I was able to dig up a floppy drive, just got to get some disks, that will be tomorrow....
EDIT:
How can I get .5 multpliers?????
I would like to start trying that.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=346206
Well it appears that my DFI 790FX-M2R board wasn't the problem.
Newegg RMA'ed it... but since they had none in stock they just refunded the money and sent me an e-mail. I found a local store that had the Gigabyte MA790FX-DS5 in stock for a reasonable price so I picked it up. It has the same boot problem... with 2 different sets of ram. (And the ram works in another machine so we know it's not ram.)
SO it looks like using Sandra blew the CPU up. But it was probably just a coincidence that it blew up while I happened to be running a test in Sandra.
The 9850 will go off for RMA. Luckily I ordered an AM2 CPU to have on hand "just in case". I should get it tomorrow. I'll wait on sending the Phenom off until I see this MB and memory working with the temporary CPU. (I guess it could still be the memory... even though it works in another machine.)
DANG IT. I liked the DFI 790FX-M2R better than this Gigabyte. (I like the LED POST display, and it has a better sound card.)
Oh well.
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Originally Posted by Slagathor
If thats the one you have then thats what I have so:shrug: try the Floppy Drive probably be a different story:yepp: I don't know man I have ZERO interest in getting rid of my floppy drive and disks to be honest:clap: :clap:
Its not too late Keith:) Besides GIGABYTE does not have Removable Bios Chips and with that said if anything goes amiss you will have to send the whole Board in and wait 2-3 weeks vs getting a chip from me or what ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by keithlm
Besides we like you and would like you to stay and have some fun with us!;)
Update:...Well all my previous settings work and with no adverse side affect so the 4/15/08 Beta so far indicates positive signs;) :up:
Ok Esau, I own a few Hitachi drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Guys first post here. I have never oced a board but i have built many . Im looking to oc my new build here.But need major starting point on how to.
Heres what I have.
DFI LP UT 790FX-M2R AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Black Edition Processor
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
OCZ ReaperX HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB
OCZ ModXStream OCZ780MXS ATX12V / EPS12V 780W Power Supply
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
2 seagates 320 7400.10 raided 0
1 Floopy drive
1 sata phillips dvd burner and a plextor ide dvd burner
Back-up hard drive sata seagate 160 7200.7
I flashed the bios last week with floopy R7LD307 Seems to be running stable right now. Been running the game crisis on it and play without flaws.
Can you please direct me into ocing my box ?
Ok, I ran the program on SB600 controller.
Using my 80gb Deskstar it would not see the drive if the controller was in Raid mode.I seemed to remember that when I tried to use the Hitachi F tool to change drive settings,I had to change the controller to legacy instead of Raid mode.So I did that same thing using the Fitness program and it worked.
Lemme know if u want me to test on SIL controller.
Also I just bought those OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB PC8500 and they wont boot at 1066, just like the patriot memory I bought.
Is it the IMC on these X2 cores, the reason it wont boot at that speed?
Or can it be motherboard?
Well I fon't use onboard Raid so neither the SB600 or Silicon Image controller were set on Raid When testing! Funny thing is that WD Raptors are able to test on the SB600 Controller so I don't get it:confused: Yes please also test on Silicon Image controller as well
What you need to do is have 1/30/08 Bios or later and also Leave everything at auto and on Dram Config Page /Set to manual and leave the other settings all at AUTO then on Main Genie Bios Page set dram frequency to manual and set 1066 Divider:)Quote:
Originally Posted by SAB
Also thw 1066 Divider will not work unless you have a Phenom CPU:up:
I kinda figured that, but needed some 1 to reassure me b4 I rma one of these sets. oh well guess I will have to run them slower untill I get a k10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Copying a cd at the moment, will test when done.
Shoot Brother the 9850 BE is a nice CPU and for that matter so wa the 9600 BE that I have that I need to sell:hrhr:
lol... one thing I do well is read.
And after seeing how much FUN u guys had with those b2's I will hold out for a b3 or later model. Off to test ...brb
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Originally Posted by SAB
Aww come on:slapass: :slap: :D
Well read up. Google is your friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyberrich
Some Linky's
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=453151
and read this twice:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=258
Just the first few pages apply.
Hitachi doesnt play well with SIL controller. Wouldnt see drives in Raid mode or Mass storage.Tried with 80gb Deskstar and my 500gb Ultrastar.
Just so we are on same page ..I used the cd image,not the floppy.
And when program started I hit 1 and 1.
My version of HDFT Is no doubt OLLLLLLD and could explain whats up with that on SB600 (Sigh) will try again tomorrow with new DFT thatnk you very much for helping me out:up:
Well finally my account got validated, thanks undesea for the referral.:)
Just in time as my Phenom 9850BE is due to be delivered today, so I can join in and hopefully be constructive, if not then I'll just be a pain asking noob questions.
Mind after waiting all weekend until today to be able to post, I've read this and other threads on here from end to end, so obviously I have learnt plenty, already forgotten plenty too :rolleyes:
Later people.:cool:
:welcome: ..to XS ForumQuote:
Originally Posted by illogical