ASUS Maximus Formula SE

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Are you sure your CPU only need 1.36 Vcore for 3.6ghz ?, have you tried with an 8X to rule out the CPU Vcore...

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Hi, silly me, you are correct of course, boots into vista @ 8x. I guess I've gotta increase the vcore with 9x until vista's stable.
Thanks...
ChrisC

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Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, silly me, you are correct of course, boots into vista @ 8x. I guess I've gotta increase the vcore with 9x until vista's stable.
Thanks...
ChrisC

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Good luck with it mate, I need 1.42 to get there

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Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

I can't find that bios anywhere on their website. How did you find that? I'd like to read the bios notes first before flashing it.

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Prolly a beta (till now), if it goes official it will take a few days to pop up on the webbie with a changelog

Hi, is my dram too high do you think?

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7592/1styx1.th.jpg

Thanks...
ChrisC

well I wouldn't run those dimms at 2.4, what did you set in the bios ? 2.3 or something, this board overvolts so plz be carefull and set a few notches lower in the bios then what is required... and if you want to run them this high plz give them some active cooling

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Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, is my dram too high do you think?

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7592/1styx1.th.jpg

Thanks...
ChrisC

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Looks high to me.

Try slowly lowering it.

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

well I wouldn't run those dimms at 2.4, what did you set in the bios ? 2.3 or something, this board overvolts so plz be carefull and set a few notches lower in the bios then what is required... and if you want to run them this high plz give them some active cooling

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Hi, only following the instructions given by Langley which was to set them at 2.35. I'll reduce them a tad...
Thanks
Chris

My Q6600 G0 runs nicely on this board @ 400*9, with 1.41875 Vcore IIRC, which is 1.384 according to CPU-Z, idle, and temp in idle is 29C (temp w/o OC was 22C). Using thermalright U 120 Xt with a silverstone FM121 in an antec P182 with the default fans installed.

Just lower it some and do a memtest, then repeat until memtest gives you an error.

Hi guys,

I just got the SE, pretty impressed, although I'm overwhelmed learning a new bios and finding all the tricks.

I've been reading through this forum, is the consensus that you can leave most settings on auto except for CPU vcore and DRAM voltage? Are there any others that have to be tweaked to get into the low 3 GHz range? (I have a e6420 that I usually run at 3.2 ~ 3.3 GHz)

Thanks in advance for any guidance! :-)


PS I used to be a regular in the P5B forum before I went to the 680i (never again nVidia, stick to GPU’s, it’s what you do best) It's nice to be back with an Intel chipset.

My board arrived 2 days ago :up:.

Definitely happy w/ the layout. There are plenty of fan headers and the forward facing SATA connectors are a plus when using crossfire. I am also glad they moved the PATA connector out from under the bottom PCI-e connector which was where they had it on the P5K-D, tisk tisk.

I haven't OC'd yet but will give it a go tomorrow when I get back from work. So far I haven't had any issues running 4 gigs of Patriot 8500 @ 1003 5-5-5-9 @ 2.15V which was the same as I had it on my P5K-D. As far as over volting the RAM, I only see the voltage .01V over in the BIOS and in PC Probe. Also using Loadline calibration there is only a .02V difference between what is set in the BIOS and what I get in windows.

The board is solid as far as I am concerned:up:.

Also, I haven't had any issues using my X-Fi card in the top PCI slot. I can't try the bottom slot since my 2nd GPU blocks that slot.

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Originally Posted by Scope666

Hi guys,

I just got the SE, pretty impressed, although I'm overwhelmed learning a new bios and finding all the tricks.

I've been reading through this forum, is the consensus that you can leave most settings on auto except for CPU vcore and DRAM voltage? Are there any others that have to be tweaked to get into the low 3 GHz range? (I have a e6420 that I usually run at 3.2 ~ 3.3 GHz)

Thanks in advance for any guidance! :-)


PS I used to be a regular in the P5B forum before I went to the 680i (never again nVidia, stick to GPU’s, it’s what you do best) It's nice to be back with an Intel chipset.

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you should be fine with the voltages at auto, and set your cpu and dram manually, also the only other thing you might need to mess around with is the ram settings, the transaction booster etc...... just mess with it keep on running memtest intill you are error free.

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Originally Posted by GAR

you should be fine with the voltages at auto, and set your cpu and dram manually, also the only other thing you might need to mess around with is the ram settings, the transaction booster etc...... just mess with it keep on running memtest intill you are error free.

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from what I gather, I should keep transaction booster, link boost, etc, etc turned off initially right?


Thanks again

is this board performance better then the P5W DH Deluxe (using the 975 chipset)

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Originally Posted by Scope666

from what I gather, I should keep transaction booster, link boost, etc, etc turned off initially right?


Thanks again

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I would leave them off completely, no noticeable difference, if anything they cause stability problems.

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Originally Posted by GAR

I would leave them off completely, no noticeable difference, if anything they cause stability problems.

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awesome, thanks for the tip!

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

is this board performance better then the P5W DH Deluxe (using the 975 chipset)

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at high resolutions, gaming performance differences are not noticeable between chipsets, at lower resolutions newer and mainly intel chipsets are a little bit faster.........but overall the new feature should pull you twords this board......pci-e 2.0 and 2x 16x pci-e mainly....ich9 thats pretty much all you would be gaining.....also 45nm cpu support, thats a pretty big list if u ask me.

OK guys seems like i am going back to SLi, 780i Striker Extreme II, i will be selling my board if anyone is interested..........thanks.

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Originally Posted by GAR

at high resolutions, gaming performance differences are not noticeable between chipsets, at lower resolutions newer and mainly intel chipsets are a little bit faster.........but overall the new feature should pull you twords this board......pci-e 2.0 and 2x 16x pci-e mainly....ich9 thats pretty much all you would be gaining.....also 45nm cpu support, thats a pretty big list if u ask me.

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great that's what I needed to know :up:

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Originally Posted by GAR

OK guys seems like i am going back to SLi, 780i Striker Extreme II, i will be selling my board if anyone is interested..........thanks.

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just say "NO" My 680i rig with 2 x 8800GTS cards drove me nuts, and many times didn't give me ANY improvement over a single fast card. LOTS of heat issues with these boards too, NB + SB run HOT!

The Maximus is already running WAY cooler than my 680i did.

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Originally Posted by GAR

OK guys seems like i am going back to SLi, 780i Striker Extreme II, i will be selling my board if anyone is interested..........thanks.

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"Off topic" Any updates on that 780i board GAR ?

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Originally Posted by GAR

OK guys seems like i am going back to SLi, 780i Striker Extreme II, i will be selling my board if anyone is interested..........thanks.

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Shocked

Why your selling? I thought you were loving it?

No luck with any X38 boards eh GAR? :|

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Originally Posted by kimandsally

Shocked

Why your selling? I thought you were loving it?

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Dont get me wrong, this is one of the best boards i have ever used.........but when it comes to gaming, a video card, especially 2 of them is alot more beneficial than having a higher FSB, so SLi would come in handy for me, especially with my 24" monitor......i still havnt made a 100% final decision, but most likely i will head in that direction. :confused:

I will make a decision after ATi releases the 3870, if it is close to the 8800GT i will keep this board and get 2 of those for X fire.....if not i will sell and get 2 8800GT's.....so dont let me down ATi........wich they prolly will :[

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

"Off topic" Any updates on that 780i board GAR ?

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The New Striker Extreme II should be out late Nov. early Dec........they already have a beta bios on the asus ftp site. :up:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ker_II_Formula

Well I tried the same settings that I used w/ my P5K-D to OC my x6800 to 3.6 GHz and it failed. I used:

CMOS: 9
FSB: 400
Strap: 266
DDR2: 1003MHz
Timmings: 5-5-5-9 (the rest auto)
Trans booster: Auto

Vcore: 1.475V (also tried 1.485V & 1.5V)
CPU PLL: Auto
NB: 1.51V
DRAM: 2.1V (2.2V in BIOS)
FSB Term: AUTO
SB: AUTO
Everything else on auto as well. Used both 0505 & 0602 BIOS's.

I guess very little love for the dual cores this time around. I don't have any more time to tinker as I have to get ready for work.

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Originally Posted by GAR

Dont get me wrong, this is one of the best boards i have ever used.........but when it comes to gaming, a video card, especially 2 of them is alot more beneficial than having a higher FSB, so SLi would come in handy for me, especially with my 24" monitor......i still havnt made a 100% final decision, but most likely i will head in that direction. :confused:

I will make a decision after ATi releases the 3870, if it is close to the 8800GT i will keep this board and get 2 of those for X fire.....if not i will sell and get 2 8800GT's.....so dont let me down ATi........wich they prolly will :[

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Now I see, after buying a 24" monitor it must be painful to not be able to use it properly, lets hope ATI comes up trumps then you'll have a Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious system.:D

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Originally Posted by kimandsally

Now I see, after buying a 24" monitor it must be painful to not be able to use it properly, lets hope ATI comes up trumps then you'll have a Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious system.:D

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I hope ATi has something up their sleeves, but from the looks of it, if this fails, i wont be looking forward to their upcoming rv700 or 680.........the thing is the 8800GT is such an amazing card for $250 usd that if ATi fails, there wont be any reason to go with ATi, thats why i think in their new graph they concentrate on DX 10.1............i dont care for DX 10.1 when D10 isnt fully utilized, raw performance is what customers care about, not special effects.......

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Originally Posted by GAR

Dont get me wrong, this is one of the best boards i have ever used.........but when it comes to gaming, a video card, especially 2 of them is alot more beneficial than having a higher FSB, so SLi would come in handy for me, especially with my 24" monitor......i still havnt made a 100% final decision, but most likely i will head in that direction. :confused:

I will make a decision after ATi releases the 3870, if it is close to the 8800GT i will keep this board and get 2 of those for X fire.....if not i will sell and get 2 8800GT's.....so dont let me down ATi........wich they prolly will :[

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dang i understand what you are saying but man my 680i was the crappiest board i have ever freakin had...and i mean the worst!! it was probably the most unstable and worst overclocking board ever...of course i had a evga but dang that thing sucked!!! lol but i dont blame you for wanting sli although i will never go back to having two graphics cards...way to pricey and power hungry...i wouldnt really wait for the atis graphics cards i like ati but they are just junk right now and have nothing good coming up...which sux for us!!! anyway good luck on your decision!

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Originally Posted by GAR

I hope ATi has something up their sleeves, but from the looks of it, if this fails, i wont be looking forward to their upcoming rv700 or 680.........the thing is the 8800GT is such an amazing card for $250 usd that if ATi fails, there wont be any reason to go with ATi, thats why i think in their new graph they concentrate on DX 10.1............i dont care for DX 10.1 when D10 isnt fully utilized, raw performance is what customers care about, not special effects.......

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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3940&Itemid=1
ATI has announced that their price for the 38xx @ 199 dollars, considerable lower then the 8800GT they think that ATI did it because they already know that the the GT is better then their new line.... I still wana see some results first , before taking any conclusions, but I think ATI failed "again"

0602 Bios lost me my overclock! I can run max FSB 470x8 atm with this Quad on 0505, ram is good for about 1100MHz 4-4-4-12, CPU good for ~3.9GHz but can't push to 475x8 for 3.8GHz with 0505 and couldn't even get close to 470x8 with 0602...!!!

What settings can I use for 475MHz stable? I increased NB volts to 1.65v for 470, but just can't get 475 stable regardless of voltage used. Are there any settings I should disable to get the stabilty there? What are you guys who are hitting 475MHz+ running settings wise?

Are the SLI drivers all that's missing to take advantage of 2x 8800GT on a Maximus? Is it a software issue only? Maybe Intel will favor nividia in the near future and provide drivers.

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Originally Posted by GAR

OK, 0602 Bios installed now, seems to be the same as 0505......i still have the P95 load issue with volts over 1.5...........ummmmm i didnt check to see if divider 4:5 was fixed, if someone could check that would be cool............other then than cant see any difference.

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gar, u still getting the restart issue with 0602?

Hey GAR...PRime95/system process issue has been fixed with new bios...wanna check and see how far you can go now?

So,is anyone working with the chipset fuzion in his loop?

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Hey GAR...PRime95/system process issue has been fixed with new bios...wanna check and see how far you can go now?

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are you sure?, i checked earlier and it was still present......let me check and report back.

EDIT: I still have the issue :/

Yeah, me too...i hadn't upped the clocks yet...I wsa able to get 1.5v @ 3.2ghz, but once I upped the clocks, it came back. I guess it further bolsters the idea that it's current draw that triggers it, and I can get about 0.02v higher, which has allowed me a few more mhz...I suppose...tried fresh winblows, no luck either, so it's something on the board itself causing the issue, IHMO...but what, I dunno.

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Originally Posted by giorgos th.

So,is anyone working with the chipset fuzion in his loop?

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I used it a bit, then removed it. I'm also running one less videorcard ATM, and it doesn't seem to be needed right now(42c loaded now), but that may change when I get my card back from RMA.

i flashed 0602 bios with ez flash from usb drive and now mobo doesn't post
lcd poster "det ram".
i tried with 1 module,clr cmos,but no luck.

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Originally Posted by giorgos th.

So,is anyone working with the chipset fuzion in his loop?

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I am. (10 char)

How are people liking the 0602 bios for overclocking? I lost quite a significant MHz off the FSB with it, and actually gained more when I flashed back to 0505, loaded defaults, saved, rebooted, and rebuilt my overclocked Profile again!

Anyone else experience worse clocks on 0602?

just bought this board after a rough RMA process with my P5K Premium. Is this still the X38 board to get or should i look elsewhere?

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Originally Posted by doom_st

i flashed 0602 bios with ez flash from usb drive and now mobo doesn't post
lcd poster "det ram".
i tried with 1 module,clr cmos,but no luck.

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did you try with a value stick?

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Originally Posted by Budwise

just bought this board after a rough RMA process with my P5K Premium. Is this still the X38 board to get or should i look elsewhere?

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for now this is the best IMO

0602 seems to have loosened NB timings, anyone else confirm this?

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

0602 seems to have loosened NB timings, anyone else confirm this?

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It might just have been an individual case, but I experienced the opposite of loose timings in that I lost a fair few MHz from my FSB with 0602?

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

0602 seems to have loosened NB timings, anyone else confirm this?

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What program did you use to test????

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

is this board performance better then the P5W DH Deluxe (using the 975 chipset)

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You can overclock quad cores much better with this board than the p5w dh deluxe. When the p5w dh deluxe came out last year there weren't any quad cores out yet so the maximus is better optimized towards the current processors. (also the price of the maximus is cheaper than the p5w dh when it first came out ^^)
When I had the p5w dh deluxe I could only overclock the q6600 to around 9x360 with watercooling but with the maximus I could do 9x400 on air (tuniq) easy (didn't test for stability yet though). Thats actually the speed I set it at on the first boot without tweaking voltages lol.

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Originally Posted by tkdforce

You can overclock quad cores much better with this board than the p5w dh deluxe. When the p5w dh deluxe came out last year there weren't any quad cores out yet so the maximus is better optimized towards the current processors. (also the price of the maximus is cheaper than the p5w dh when it first came out ^^)
When I had the p5w dh deluxe I could only overclock the q6600 to around 9x360 with watercooling but with the maximus I could do 9x400 on air (tuniq) easy (didn't test for stability yet though). Thats actually the speed I set it at on the first boot without tweaking voltages lol.

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Great, thanks for the info. So as long as I stick to dual cores I should be fine then...

no difference
for me

still running E6850 L720A478@ 500x8@1.456v 4ghz P95 stable
sandra bench is the same
so is everest

Bios 0505 :D :D
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...01090630_5.jpg

you watercooled the NB and SB Langley ? As those temps are the ones I dream off, till now I got 45°C lowest on the SB, 50°C on the NB (passive cooling), though I ripped off the heatsink combo now , awaiting my Arctic cleaning kit to get the putty off as it even resists to brake cleaner...

I did some tests with the Q6600 at 3200Mhz ( 8 x 400 ) ram at 1003mhz with 5-5-5-15 rest of ram timings auto, first results with Transaction booster enabled level 1 + static read control disabled -- Second scores : transaction booster disabled but static read control enabled

Everest Ultimate 4 gives me the following scores :

Read 8355 -- 8604
Write 7288 -- 7288
Copy 7638 -- 7732
Latency 61.2 -- 58.2

3Dmark2005

18888 -- 18900

Like stated before I can run the same FSB with way less chipset voltages if I disable transaction Booster... can anyone contradict these findings ? as I have similar results on my P5K DLX... but to me static read control gives faster ram performance than the transaction booster...

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

you watercooled the NB and SB Langley s those temsp are th eones Idream off till now, I got 45°C lowest on the SB, 50°C on the NB, though I ripped off the heatsink combo, awaiting my Arctic cleaning kit to get the putty off as it even resists to brake cleaner...

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I couldn't understand most of your post.

But Anyways,

Can anyone do a P5K vs maxiums SE Hard drive performance?

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Originally Posted by Warboy

I couldn't understand most of your post.

But Anyways,

Can anyone do a P5K vs maxiums SE Hard drive performance?

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edited my post , is it clear now ?

What benches do you want ?

Is it worth it, selling my ASUS Commando and buy Maximus Formula?
I have a Xeon 3230 (ES) + 4GB Crucial PC8500.

Im running 4 x Seagate 320gb in Matrix-RAID. 40gb raid0 and rest = raid5. I´ve read about some raid issues with maximus formula, but cant find it now?

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

you watercooled the NB and SB Langley ? As those temps are the ones I dream off, till now I got 45°C lowest on the SB, 50°C on the NB (passive cooling), though I ripped off the heatsink combo now , awaiting my Arctic cleaning kit to get the putty off as it even resists to brake cleaner...

I did some tests with the Q6600 at 3200Mhz ( 8 x 400 ) ram at 1003mhz with 5-5-5-15 rest of ram timings auto, first results with Transaction booster enabled level 1 + static read control disabled -- Second scores : transaction booster disabled but static read control enabled

Everest Ultimate 4 gives me the following scores :

Read 8355 -- 8604
Write 7288 -- 7288
Copy 7638 -- 7732
Latency 61.2 -- 58.2

3Dmark2005

18888 -- 18900

Like stated before I can run the same FSB with way less chipset voltages if I disable transaction Booster... can anyone contradict these findings ? as I have similar results on my P5K DLX... but to me static read control gives faster ram performance than the transaction booster...

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I have the maximus SE with fuzion... and i did'nt see a crappy wb like this... but i want to do my test with all mobo at default, so u see the nb voltage that is set to AUTO on bios (1,6V) i can try to put down some voltage ;)
and the static read control is disable... because imho if u want the fast performance u can try to put up the freq of ddr2 :)
I have the NB and the CPU with liquid, nothing of special! :)
I like the crucial pc8500 2 pair of 2gb and are all ok with high freq and tight timings :D

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Originally Posted by Darkstormz

Is it worth it, selling my ASUS Commando and buy Maximus Formula?
I have a Xeon 3230 (ES) + 4GB Crucial PC8500.

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I don't think the Maximus will bring more to you then your commando does already mate...maybe 3.8ghz and slightly faster timings,...but nothing earthshattering : if all runs fine keep the Commando :up:


@Langley so if I read correctly you use the Fuzion waterblock ? or did you replace with an aftermarket one ?

What is the best BIOS for this board? I'm receiving mine today and was wondering what I should flash to.

0505... i'm going to test out 0602 if i can find it lol.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ula/MF0602.zip

I'm using 602. It supports the half multi's so I can run my Yorkfield properly. yaay. 505 wouldn't post.

Any updates on the change log for 602 ? 601 runs fine here too , zero issues ( till now lol )

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Any updates on the change log for 602 ? 601 runs fine here too , zero issues ( till now lol )

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601？Where can I find it?

602 here. same 3.8 mhz settings work as in 505. still can't get any higher then 425 fsb for some reason. i've tried 450 x 8, 450 x 6... nothing. nothing at all. i even cleared cmos and just changed those two things. nothing. i'm getting annoyed.i don't understand how the hell all the others are running 500 fsb. maybe it's my ram??? does it suck that bad that it can't handle 1000mhz?

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Originally Posted by TheSamurai

602 here. same 3.8 mhz settings work as in 505. still can't get any higher then 425 fsb for some reason. i've tried 450 x 8, 450 x 6... nothing. nothing at all. i even cleared cmos and just changed those two things. nothing. i'm getting annoyed.i don't understand how the hell all the others are running 500 fsb. maybe it's my ram??? does it suck that bad that it can't handle 1000mhz?

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I haven't received the board yet so I can't talk about specifics but did you try with only 2 sticks of RAM?

yup.
not this second time around but i have before. i'll give it a shot again later.

When ever I try pushing my 6750 to 3.0 or above the FSBT voltage, NB, and SB voltage all go up to there "high" level (all set at AUTO). Is this normal and ok? Or should I push them back manualy?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

When ever I try pushing my 6750 to 3.0 or above the FSBT voltage, NB, and SB voltage all go up to there "high" level (all set at AUTO). Is this normal and ok? Or should I push them back manualy?

Thanks

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as far as I can tell you have to try lowering them one at a time and check for stability. My board seems to want fairly high NB / FSB for the RAM to be stable at / above 3 gigs.

Anyone else have any findings in this area?

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Originally Posted by tylerw13

these are my settings under bios

fsb frequ: 425
fsb strap: auto
pcie frequ: 110
ddram frequ: 1021
dram command: auto
dram timing: manual
4-5-5-14
rest auto
dram static: auto
ai clock twister: auto
transaction boost: auto
cpu volts: 1.55
cpu pll: 1.76
nb: 1.75
dram: 2.2
fsb termination: 1.4
sb: 1.175
loadline: enabled
cpu gtl: .63x
nb gtl: .67
ddr2 channel a: auto
b: auto
ddr2 controller: auto
sb 1.5: auto
cpu spread: disabled
pcie spread: disabled

hope this helps you guys out...honestly this freakin board is rock solid @ these settings i honestly have never had such ease of overclocking a cpu than with this mobo and as bios updates come out it will only get better!!! i seriously love my desicion to buy this thing!!! with my 680 i i couldnt even get over 3.45 with this same cpu...honestly amazing!!

:up: :up: :up:

:) edit my memory divider is 5:6 according to cpuz

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Thanks for this info now at 3.8GHz stable and at new cas 4 timings Memory at 1021. Still on 504 tried 505 and have recently tried 602 but found couldnt get same OC on them so back to 504 and happy.

Only worry is the NB voltage at 1.79 but my previous voltage was 1.65 so doesnt seem much over will just have to watch temps also.

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Originally Posted by DeViTTo

Thanks for this info now at 3.8GHz stable and at new cas 4 timings Memory at 1021. Still on 504 tried 505 and have recently tried 602 but found couldnt get same OC on them so back to 504 and happy.

Only worry is the NB voltage at 1.79 but my previous voltage was 1.65 so doesnt seem much over will just have to watch temps also.

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I'd be worried about your cpu pll voltage. That is pretty high. I was told that 1.8 or so could kill your cpu. I know that board overvolts alot. Mine overvolts the cpu pll by about .12 so i'd watch that carefully if the "1.8 kill your processor" saying is true.

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Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

I'd be worried about your cpu pll voltage. That is pretty high. I was told that 1.8 or so could kill your cpu. I know that board overvolts alot. Mine overvolts the cpu pll by about .12 so i'd watch that carefully if the "1.8 kill your processor" saying is true.

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Yea im worried about some of the Volts but it works fine. I think i might revert to 466 x 8 settings still get 3.74Ghz with that stable but might try new cas 4 timings.

Thanks for your concern though.

What is your ram's default speed? 1066?

those volts do seem really high. i have the same settings except 4-4-4-12 on 4 gb of ram and my voltages are much lower!!!

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Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

What is your ram's default speed? 1066?

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Ok I have just dropped the volts down to

CPU Vcore 1.50
CPU PLL 1.70
NB 1.69

Tried 3dmark01 just 4 initial tests usually stops on Nature if will cause probs later. Need to run Prime now but seems stable at these settings.

The Ballistics are rated 1066Mhz but running at 1021 510Mhz 4,5,5,14 timmings at 2.00V,

Just a question is it faster to have 466Bus x 8 Mutliplier = 3.74Ghz with 1864+ FSB and Memory around 559Mhz @ 5,5,5,15 on 5:6 Divider?

Than 425 x 9 @ 3.825 with 1700 FSB and Memory @510 4,5,5,14 on 5:6 Divider?

They both post about the same results on 3Dmark01 and 06. Have I answered my own question lol?

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I don't think the Maximus will bring more to you then your commando does already mate...maybe 3.8ghz and slightly faster timings,...but nothing earthshattering : if all runs fine keep the Commando :up:


@Langley so if I read correctly you use the Fuzion waterblock ? or did you replace with an aftermarket one ?

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Fuzion... default wb of a default mobo.. no mod :)

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Originally Posted by cstkl1

no difference
for me

still running E6850 L720A478@ 500x8@1.456v 4ghz P95 stable
sandra bench is the same
so is everest

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is that in reference to my P5W vs Maximus Formula comparison or another post :shrug:

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Originally Posted by DeViTTo

Ok I have just dropped the volts down to

CPU Vcore 1.50
CPU PLL 1.70
NB 1.69

Tried 3dmark01 just 4 initial tests usually stops on Nature if will cause probs later. Need to run Prime now but seems stable at these settings.

The Ballistics are rated 1066Mhz but running at 1021 510Mhz 4,5,5,14 timmings at 2.00V,

Just a question is it faster to have 466Bus x 8 Mutliplier = 3.74Ghz with 1864+ FSB and Memory around 559Mhz @ 5,5,5,15 on 5:6 Divider?

Than 425 x 9 @ 3.825 with 1700 FSB and Memory @510 4,5,5,14 on 5:6 Divider?

They both post about the same results on 3Dmark01 and 06. Have I answered my own question lol?

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I have found in my testing that for me 450x8 gives better performance and higher scores in benchmarks compared to 400x9. This runs my cpu at the same speed but my ram is running 1081 when using the 8 divider and it is 1066 when using 9 divider. CPU benchies are higher with the 8 divider, which leads me to believe that these q6600's like higher fsb's.

The reason I ask about your ram speeds is because when you are running a divider of 8, what voltages do you have set for the ram because I can't get stable with that divider for some reason. I would like 450 or 445x8 but it is not happening.

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Originally Posted by GAR

What program did you use to test????

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Used everest, compared all settings from 0505 to 0602 and the ram had less performance.

EDIT: Vista restart still results in a failed Overclock.

anyone know why my ps/2 keyboard doesn't respond with this motherboard? they keyboard lights up and is functional but when i try to type in an application, the program freezes and causes it not to respond

Guys i just picked one of these up to play with on phase but dont want to use water and phase because it will be too loud for my prime rig.

I currently run my Q6600 G0 at 480x9 with my blackpearl (p5k premium) on phase with my NB air cooled.

Will I be able to hit 480 FSB on the maximus with water cooling the chipset?

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Originally Posted by sdumper

Guys i just picked one of these up to play with on phase but dont want to use water and phase because it will be too loud for my prime rig.

I currently run my Q6600 G0 at 480x9 with my blackpearl (p5k premium) on phase with my NB air cooled.

Will I be able to hit 480 FSB on the maximus with water cooling the chipset?

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it is very posible. good luck!!!

Okay, I couldn't get a multi of 9 to work at all on this board, no matter what voltage and FSB I tried.

I tried the following for 400x9, RAM @ 1003MHz 5-5-5-9 (subtimmings auto):
Vcore: 1.47V up to 1.5V
CPU PLL: 1.64V
NB: 1.51V up to 1.55V
DRAM: 2.1V (2.2V in BIOS)
FSB: 1.4V
SB: 1.15V
CPU/NB GTL: Auto

I then lowered my FSB down to 350MHz and I still could not boot into windows.

Then I tried to see how far I could go with a multi of 11x and I was able to reach 11x335MHz w/ similar voltages listed above w/ RAM @ ~1000MHz same timmings.

Could some one explain why I can't reach 3.6GHz (9x400) but I can reach 3.685GHz (11x335)?

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Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

I have found in my testing that for me 450x8 gives better performance and higher scores in benchmarks compared to 400x9. This runs my cpu at the same speed but my ram is running 1081 when using the 8 divider and it is 1066 when using 9 divider. CPU benchies are higher with the 8 divider, which leads me to believe that these q6600's like higher fsb's.

The reason I ask about your ram speeds is because when you are running a divider of 8, what voltages do you have set for the ram because I can't get stable with that divider for some reason. I would like 450 or 445x8 but it is not happening.

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I use 2.0V for ram on that divider everthing else on AUTO voltage wise. I'm going to go back to 466 x 8 and try different voltage and maybe raise the bus a bit.

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Originally Posted by mXpS

anyone know why my ps/2 keyboard doesn't respond with this motherboard? they keyboard lights up and is functional but when i try to type in an application, the program freezes and causes it not to respond

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Did you install Asus AI suite from dvd? That version has bug. Update it from Asus web site.

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Originally Posted by TouGe

Okay, I couldn't get a multi of 9 to work at all on this board, no matter what voltage and FSB I tried.

I tried the following for 400x9, RAM @ 1003MHz 5-5-5-9 (subtimmings auto):
Vcore: 1.47V up to 1.5V
CPU PLL: 1.64V
NB: 1.51V up to 1.55V
DRAM: 2.1V (2.2V in BIOS)
FSB: 1.4V
SB: 1.15V
CPU/NB GTL: Auto

I then lowered my FSB down to 350MHz and I still could not boot into windows.

Then I tried to see how far I could go with a multi of 11x and I was able to reach 11x335MHz w/ similar voltages listed above w/ RAM @ ~1000MHz same timmings.

Could some one explain why I can't reach 3.6GHz (9x400) but I can reach 3.685GHz (11x335)?

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It seems depending on your settings for tranaction booster and static read control the voltages for the NB vary enormously... Most users here are at 1.6 NB voltage... I'm at 1.32 for 400FSB with my Q6600@3200 but I disabled the transaction booster and set level 1 ( static read control is enabled and jields for me slightly higher bandwith at 400FSB/1003 ram speeds )... can you try that if it helps to improve ya stability... those are pretty tight timings you are running there... by the way running 2 x 2 Gskills PC8000 ram ( so not 4 dimms )

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Originally Posted by Xiph

Did you install Asus AI suite from dvd? That version has bug. Update it from Asus web site.

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Alright, that worked. Thanks man.

Another question for you, how do I disable the BIOS from looking for a master IDE hdd? I only have SATA drives in this system, so obviously it wont be able to find one. Every time I reboot it, it halts the startup, it gives me the warning that it cant find one and then I have to press f1 to continue. Its not too big of a deal but it gets annoying after a while. Thanks for your help.

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Originally Posted by mXpS

Alright, that worked. Thanks man.

Another question for you, how do I disable the BIOS from looking for a master IDE hdd? I only have SATA drives in this system, so obviously it wont be able to find one. Every time I reboot it, it halts the startup, it gives me the warning that it cant find one and then I have to press f1 to continue. Its not too big of a deal but it gets annoying after a while. Thanks for your help.

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Hi, turn off jmicron in the bios...
Chris

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Originally Posted by TouGe

Okay, I couldn't get a multi of 9 to work at all on this board, no matter what voltage and FSB I tried.

I tried the following for 400x9, RAM @ 1003MHz 5-5-5-9 (subtimmings auto):
Vcore: 1.47V up to 1.5V
CPU PLL: 1.64V
NB: 1.51V up to 1.55V
DRAM: 2.1V (2.2V in BIOS)
FSB: 1.4V
SB: 1.15V
CPU/NB GTL: Auto

I then lowered my FSB down to 350MHz and I still could not boot into windows.

Then I tried to see how far I could go with a multi of 11x and I was able to reach 11x335MHz w/ similar voltages listed above w/ RAM @ ~1000MHz same timmings.

Could some one explain why I can't reach 3.6GHz (9x400) but I can reach 3.685GHz (11x335)?

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you're running a multiplier of 11 with the maximus formula se??? how?

What Bios is everyone using?

I'm at 3.8ghz with this mobo.

1.6v in bios read 1.54 in everest.

Whats correct?

BIOS 0602 and USB devices? I upgraded my BIOS to 0620, and found if I did any overclocking (even 1 MHZ) it would not detect my USB devices, it would hang on detection, or else take 5 minutes then find maybe 4 of the 10 devices that are attached. For instance it might entirely miss the card reader and all 4 drives, or the card reader and 2 of the 4 drives or 1 of the 2 keyboards ...

Basically I have switched back to 0505, wanted to know if anyone else had similar issues?

ERIC

i'm running 602 right now and it seems to be exactly the same as 505 for me.

I had to revert back to 0505 since 0602 gave me video issues.

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Originally Posted by easyrider

What Bios is everyone using?

I'm at 3.8ghz with this mobo.

1.6v in bios read 1.54 in everest.

Whats correct?

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Hey could you do me a favor and run prime 95 while task manager is open, click on the process tab and see how much cpu is p95 using, with 1.5v and up quads have a problem in this board........thanks.

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Originally Posted by GAR

Hey could you do me a favor and run prime 95 while task manager is open, click on the process tab and see how much cpu is p95 using, with 1.5v and up quads have a problem in this board........thanks.

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At 3.82 GHz and 1.51 actual volts in Windows I can run blend or small FFT's and it loads my CPU 100% in task manager. Q6600 G0 here. I checked last night.

I’m in RAM Hell. When I first got this board, both of my Ballistix were randomly testing bad in Memtest86+ One stick all the time, the other only after the machine had been on for a few hours. So I put an RMA request in for them, and picked up a pair of Corsair XMS2 sticks to hold me over until the Ballistix get back. First set of Corsairs, BOTH sticks test bad (different bit locations for each stick, swapped slots and verified it wasn’t the motherboard or the slot itself)

So I returned those 2, got ANOTHER 2 Corsairs, 1 of the 2 is bad. Keeping the good one and hoping CompUSA won’t bust my chops about swapping out just the one bad one today. Anyone else running these sticks? Have you had problems? What volts do you guys run these at. They’re rated at 1.9 which sounds low compared to the 2.2 the Ballistix are rated at. At the moment just trying to run them at their rated timings and speed. (DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 timings)

Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

is that in reference to my P5W vs Maximus Formula comparison or another post :shrug:

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no bro
in respective 0505 bios and 0602 no diff
sorry if caused some confusion

Grrr.. Ok, so I can set 450 x 8 (3.6 cpu) and Prime95 with the ram set to 900 (underclocked from 1066). I can set the ram to 1082 and the cpu to around 3.25 and prime stable. But as soon as I set the ram and cpu to 450x8 (3.6cpu / 1081memory) things become unstable. I've tried upping the voltages to basically everything, nb, dram, fsbtermination, vcore, etc... Not stable. If I set to 400x9 (3.6cpu / 1066mem) everything is solid. Any ideas?

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Originally Posted by froste

At 3.82 GHz and 1.51 actual volts in Windows I can run blend or small FFT's and it loads my CPU 100% in task manager. Q6600 G0 here. I checked last night.

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Yes task manager will show 100% but check prime95.exe see how much cpu it is using........... task manager will show you 100% check the prime95.exe in the process tab. thanks.

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Originally Posted by GAR

Yes task manager will show 100% but check prime95.exe see how much cpu it is using........... task manager will show you 100% check the prime95.exe in the process tab. thanks.

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Ahh, I see. I will check that later tonight, gotta take the girly out first.

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Originally Posted by GAR

Yes task manager will show 100% but check prime95.exe see how much cpu it is using........... task manager will show you 100% check the prime95.exe in the process tab. thanks.

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this has got to be something with the different batches... when did you get your G0??

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Originally Posted by Scope666

I’m in RAM Hell. When I first got this board, both of my Ballistix were randomly testing bad in Memtest86+ One stick all the time, the other only after the machine had been on for a few hours. So I put an RMA request in for them, and picked up a pair of Corsair XMS2 sticks to hold me over until the Ballistix get back. First set of Corsairs, BOTH sticks test bad (different bit locations for each stick, swapped slots and verified it wasn’t the motherboard or the slot itself)

So I returned those 2, got ANOTHER 2 Corsairs, 1 of the 2 is bad. Keeping the good one and hoping CompUSA won’t bust my chops about swapping out just the one bad one today. Anyone else running these sticks? Have you had problems? What volts do you guys run these at. They’re rated at 1.9 which sounds low compared to the 2.2 the Ballistix are rated at. At the moment just trying to run them at their rated timings and speed. (DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 timings)

Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

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That sounds very much like the problem I have.
I sent in both the RAM and the motherboard for RMA.
I'm using the same Ballistix and got errors for all of them (Memtest86+).

Strange thing is when I tried some OCZ PC2-8500, it worked just fine with no errors at all.

I'm getting them back today and I will see how it goes.
The Ballistix I have are PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 and I have 4x1GB but I tried just two at a time and still got errors.

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Used everest, compared all settings from 0505 to 0602 and the ram had less performance.

EDIT: Vista restart still results in a failed Overclock.

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This is my Everest Bandwith test with 0602 and 0505
BIOS settings are all the same
480x8 1:1 DDR2-960 2T-4-4-4-5-3-30-3-1-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-Auto-Auto-Auto
0505
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/662/505xj4.png

0602
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8345/602oq4.png

To me, the difference looks minimal. The release note does say the new BIOS improves memory compatibility, although I still cannot run my Ballistix 8500 @ 600Mhz stable, which is very easy on the other borads.