Official GIGA P35-S3/DS3/DS3R/DS3P/DS4/DQ6 bios/info thread

Hi guys,

short question. is it better to use the yellow or the red RAM-Slots ? Whats the difference ? i stuck currently at fsb 540 ;)

i´ve the Giga P35 DQ6 - Rev. 1.0

many thx
R.

Wy not test it..

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Originally Posted by BTK

I just ordered

GA-P35-DS3R
E6750
2GB (2x1GB) Crucial Ballastix (Micron D9GMH)
Scythe Infinity HSF for $38 (Normally $58 and I couldn't justify spending double the price for 120-extreme with a $38 scythe infinity.
8800GTS 320mb superclock
vista home premium 32 bit

i got corsairhx520w psu and the HD wd 7200rpm sata 250gb and cd/dvd and the case - heavily modded x-cruiser

what can i expect

i would like 3.2 GHz stable can I expect that?

what should i know?

any bios flashes to take care of for mobo/gpu?

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Hi BTK - not sure if anyone has responded to your post, so here goes -

I am using a GA P35-DS3 (F4 bios) with an E6750 at 3.2gig @ 1.37 volts - with stock intel cooler it idles at 28-32 deg and loaded (Orthos) 48-52 deg.

So in answer to your question, 3.2 stable, I say yes, in fact you could probably go to 3.4 - 3.6 or higher with the cooler you have ordered. I am very impressed with the stability and performance of my system.

BTW for 3.2gig - set the FSB to 400 and mem to 1:1 (2.0 in bios) which runs your PC6400 (800mhz) RAM at rated speed - with micron chips your RAM could probably run much higher.

I am using Corsair PC6400 5,5,5,18 - pretty cheap, but I can overclock to over 500mhz (DDR1000) with Vdimm @ 2.1 volts.

Not much else to add - its a straight forward setup - whci should give you good results.

Good luck with your new rig

ok My cpu was stable at 3930mhz on my 680i dfi board. I know my cpu is not the problem. My problem is that I do not know the voltage requirements for the NB or FSB for 434-440 x9 FSB.
Also once I run orthos the systems reboots itself and on the health status sub menu from top to bottom the DDR18V is showing Fail. My voltage is +35 for vdimm. what could be a good starting point for NB and FSB volts for my desire speeds. I'm running my pc8500 micron chips under their stocks speeds (860-880mhz).


thanks

hlo

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

ok My cpu was stable at 3930mhz on my 680i dfi board. I know my cpu is not the problem. My problem is that I do not know the voltage requirements for the NB or FSB for 434-440 x9 FSB.
Also once I run orthos the systems reboots itself and on the health status sub menu from top to bottom the DDR18V is showing Fail. My voltage is +35 for vdimm. what could be a good starting point for NB and FSB volts for my desire speeds. I'm running my pc8500 micron chips under their stocks speeds (860-880mhz).


thanks

hlo

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well i gotta say not all p35 chips the same
on 3 of the p35c-ds3r only 1 of then can do 576fsb
2 of them i can do 510 not even 511
addin volts to pcie helps
i got it +1pcie +2 nb +2 mch
try 500+ if you get there u gonna love it
525:D

Anyone tried these new F6 and F7 bioses for P35-DS4?

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

well i gotta say not all p35 chips the same
on 3 of the p35c-ds3r only 1 of then can do 576fsb
2 of them i can do 510 not even 511
addin volts to pcie helps
i got it +1pcie +2 nb +2 mch
try 500+ if you get there u gonna love it
525:D

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ok when you say +1, +2, +2 do you mean +1.00volts pcie +2.00volts FSB, +2.00volts MCH ?

this was easy

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=242827

stock vcore

and it must be cool in here 35c load

but my 8800gts is being weird

im getting like 25 fps in games no vsync stock drivers

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

ok when you say +1, +2, +2 do you mean +1.00volts pcie +2.00volts FSB, +2.00volts MCH ?

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yes
some need +2 on pcie
verry weird that the dq6 not overclocking higher than my board

Maybe its the turbo standard ram options? That stuff is pretty screwy IMO. You tried different ram slots?

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Originally Posted by LifeStealer

Maybe its the turbo standard ram options? That stuff is pretty screwy IMO. You tried different ram slots?

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i always run extreme no problems

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Originally Posted by Family man 72

Anyone tried these new F6 and F7 bioses for P35-DS4?

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F6= F5g as far as I can see from trying both.

F7 doesnt look anything special apart from the bug fix.

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

ok My cpu was stable at 3930mhz on my 680i dfi board. I know my cpu is not the problem. My problem is that I do not know the voltage requirements for the NB or FSB for 434-440 x9 FSB.
Also once I run orthos the systems reboots itself and on the health status sub menu from top to bottom the DDR18V is showing Fail. My voltage is +35 for vdimm. what could be a good starting point for NB and FSB volts for my desire speeds. I'm running my pc8500 micron chips under their stocks speeds (860-880mhz).


thanks

hlo

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I currently have E6850 on DQ6 at 3.9 (9x434). Using bios F4 I was orthos stable >12 hrs with normal settings on FSB and GMCH voltages. I just updated to F6 and currently testing orthos, but so far stable with no increase to FSB or GMCH, others had said did not need to touch those til over 450 FSB. But boards may differ.
After updating to F6, I did have to set pcie to 105 and pcie voltage to +0.05 to keep my pcie from going to 1x (instead of 16x), or crashing my oc.

The fail on vdimm voltage is typical, just ignore it. Mine said same on +.4 setting (corsair dominator 2.2) when I run my memory at stock 533. Reads OK now since I am "underclocking" to 434 and decreased volts to +.3.

I'm getting the PCI-E x1 instead of x16 problem too, but I'm using F4 BIOS. I changed all kinds of settings in BIOS, changed vFSB, vMCH, vPCI-E, and PCI-E mhz. Set FSB to 398mhz to see if it was 400FSB that triggered it, but that didn't help.

I just put my GTS in the second slot. That one still runs at x4.

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Originally Posted by BTK

this was easy

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=242827

stock vcore

and it must be cool in here 35c load

but my 8800gts is being weird

im getting like 25 fps in games no vsync stock drivers

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I guess you are getting the same problem as others, the PCI-E bus set a x1. Read the last pages of this thread, people with this problem have posted some solutions.

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Originally Posted by rge

I currently have E6850 on DQ6 at 3.9 (9x434). Using bios F4 I was orthos stable >12 hrs with normal settings on FSB and GMCH voltages. I just updated to F6 and currently testing orthos, but so far stable with no increase to FSB or GMCH, others had said did not need to touch those til over 450 FSB. But boards may differ.
After updating to F6, I did have to set pcie to 105 and pcie voltage to +0.05 to keep my pcie from going to 1x (instead of 16x), or crashing my oc.

The fail on vdimm voltage is typical, just ignore it. Mine said same on +.4 setting (corsair dominator 2.2) when I run my memory at stock 533. Reads OK now since I am "underclocking" to 434 and decreased volts to +.3.

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Thanks will try it this way and see.

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Originally Posted by r4st4m4n

I guess you are getting the same problem as others, the PCI-E bus set a x1. Read the last pages of this thread, people with this problem have posted some solutions.

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actually i reformatted and problem solved

but i got one question

im running this stable

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=243444

and the ddr2 voltage is @ "standard"

what is that?

1.8v or 2.v?

F6 BIOS

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Originally Posted by BTK

actually i reformatted and problem solved

but i got one question

im running this stable

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=243444

and the ddr2 voltage is @ "standard"

what is that?

1.8v or 2.v?

F6 BIOS

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1.8

Hi everyone....just wondering what the min and max vcore settings are for the ga-p35-ds3? I was also wondering what differances between the ga-p35-ds3 and ga-p35-s3?

strapping nightmare! I have a P35c-ds3r using crucial (pc8500) have flashed to f4g-f4i-f4 and now back to f4g. Always starts out with a 1066 strapping, as soon as system hangs due to lack of voltage or whatever im trying it goes to 800 strapping. Of course I have to make alot more changes then. after 5-7 reboots, hangs etc. reverts back to 1066, where it is suppose to be. I also when loading OS, sometimes get a small error window saying Not for this chipset! Can not get past 3800 ( E6850) Is this about the max on air?? Thats at 1.5 v on core, speedfan reporting about 44c temp same as coretemp.95(thats load temp running prime), though have heard you need to +15 to temps on speedfan.
Is this jumping back and forth with 800-1066 strapping just a gigabyte bug?? I also have to run +5-+6 on vdimm isnt that like 2.4v?
sorry bout the unorginized post, just venting! main question is locking down the 1066 strapping , most time im tweaking this board its 800 and I thought with the 1066 ram it should stay 1066. Im beggining to think that this pc8500 is the exact same as the pc6400, just higher SPD dump. I originally thought it was tighter binned.

Guys...spotted a new version of Easy Tune 5 over at the GB website.

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Originally Posted by theRedDwarf

strapping nightmare! I have a P35c-ds3r using crucial (pc8500) have flashed to f4g-f4i-f4 and now back to f4g. Always starts out with a 1066 strapping, as soon as system hangs due to lack of voltage or whatever im trying it goes to 800 strapping. Of course I have to make alot more changes then. after 5-7 reboots, hangs etc. reverts back to 1066, where it is suppose to be. I also when loading OS, sometimes get a small error window saying Not for this chipset! Can not get past 3800 ( E6850) Is this about the max on air?? Thats at 1.5 v on core, speedfan reporting about 44c temp same as coretemp.95(thats load temp running prime), though have heard you need to +15 to temps on speedfan.
Is this jumping back and forth with 800-1066 strapping just a gigabyte bug?? I also have to run +5-+6 on vdimm isnt that like 2.4v?
sorry bout the unorginized post, just venting! main question is locking down the 1066 strapping , most time im tweaking this board its 800 and I thought with the 1066 ram it should stay 1066. Im beggining to think that this pc8500 is the exact same as the pc6400, just higher SPD dump. I originally thought it was tighter binned.

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man relax on those vdim volts +4 gonna give you 2.34-2.4
check your droop on vcore
and yes alot of 8500s are 6400 use to be 5300s before that 4200s lol
1.5 is plenty to get to 3.8

i went back to f4 bios f4i suks

How could I see the temps of my NB, SB on the DQ6.
Also have anyone tryed the yellow memory slots ?
Please advice

Hello !

I completed my first new build last night and it went well, I do need pointers on a couple of things though, I hope you can help.

At first the CPU fan wouldn't spin, checked all the cables but nothing, I then moved the fan header from CPU to SysFan1 and it worked, I checked the temp in bios and it looks fine, anyone else had this problem, is it safe to use this long term ?

Anyone using a Zalman CNPS7500 (120mm superflower) on this board ?
I couldn't get one of the lugs to snap down over the bracket, a small square black power capasitor is in the way which ever way I try it. I gave up in the end and fitted the stock fan.


Thanks !




P35-DS3P
C2D E6750
2GB Geil 6400
HIS X1950pro
Anted True power 650W

I picked up a P35-DS3R and G0 Q6600. Nice combo, working pretty well so far. Got some tweaking in yesterday but lots more to go.

I wanted to mention that I think the people who have problems getting above certain FSBs are actually limited by the CPU. I have a P965-DS3 and E4300 combo as well and it can't go above 345 MHz FSB much at all. The chips are perhaps more determining in FSB limits than the mobos, IMO.

This G0 Q6600 is fairly happy all the way up to 425 MHz FSB or so, in my tests. Although I do think it's happier at a lower FSB with the 9x multi than up at 400+ with the 8x multi. I have to do more testing, but that would make sense.

One thing I would really like on an Intel board is a way to change Vcore and still have the voltage change in EIST. On my prior DFI NF4 Ultra-D board, there was a setting called "Special VID" or some such that increased the entire Vcore range Cool'n'Quiet would use by a percentage (i.e. 103%, 110%, 113%, etc). That was great. You could be ultra overclocked when you need it but also really cool when you don't. Can of course be tricky to get the intermediate clocks and voltages, that the power management uses, stable. But it worked great with my Opteron 165 back then.

Overall this P35 board seems a lot like the P965-DS3 (even looks very similar). The P35 may be a better overclocker. But my E4300, like I said, wasn't very friendly to high FSBs.

UncleMonty:
>At first the CPU fan wouldn't spin, checked all the cables but nothing, I then moved the fan header from CPU to SysFan1 and it worked, I checked the temp in bios and it looks fine, anyone else had this problem, is it safe to use this long term ?

Go to "PC Health Status" in BIOS. Change your settings for "Smart FAN Control Method" to, perhaps, "Disable".

I had the same problem with my 120mm fans for my Scythe Ninja cooler. Starts voltage too low. There are some settings in the GigaByte utils like EasyTune to set voltage amounts and thresholds.

I have a P5B-DX thats making me pull my hair. Will the P35-DS3R give me a solid oc on my E6300, possibly even better? Another thing is that I had a p965-Ds3 back in the day and it had a horrible problem with oc/coldbug. Has this been resolved? and also hows the droop, and mem voltages on the new DS3R?

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I have a P5B-DX thats making me pull my hair. Will the P35-DS3R give me a solid oc on my E6300, possibly even better? Another thing is that I had a p965-Ds3 back in the day and it had a horrible problem with oc/coldbug. Has this been resolved? and also hows the droop, and mem voltages on the new DS3R?

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my p5b was a good overclocker but no where close to my p35c
but overvolting memory
if i were you i'd wait for x38

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UncleMonty:
>At first the CPU fan wouldn't spin, checked all the cables but nothing, I then moved the fan header from CPU to SysFan1 and it worked, I checked the temp in bios and it looks fine, anyone else had this problem, is it safe to use this long term ?

Go to "PC Health Status" in BIOS. Change your settings for "Smart FAN Control Method" to, perhaps, "Disable".

I had the same problem with my 120mm fans for my Scythe Ninja cooler. Starts voltage too low. There are some settings in the GigaByte utils like EasyTune to set voltage amounts and thresholds.

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Trikoid put the CPU fan back on the CPU header. The fan is set to AUTO throttle in the BIOS. Until the heatsink heats up the fan will not spin on the p965 or the P35 Gigabyte based motherboards. It takes about 20-45 seconds for the fan to start spinning initially. And if you happen to have a very cool CPU it may even stop and start off and on depending on the temperature. And that is with the retail heatsink. With some crazier solutions you may have some issues with starting voltage.

Since I am running a quad core at 3.2Ghz I don't have that perticular problem. : ) Plenty of heat being generated here....

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Trikoid put the CPU fan back on the CPU header. The fan is set to AUTO throttle in the BIOS. Until the heatsink heats up the fan will not spin on the p965 or the P35 Gigabyte based motherboards. It takes about 20-45 seconds for the fan to start spinning initially. And if you happen to have a very cool CPU it may even stop and start off and on depending on the temperature. And that is with the retail heatsink. With some crazier solutions you may have some issues with starting voltage.

Since I am running a quad core at 3.2Ghz I don't have that perticular problem. : ) Plenty of heat being generated here....

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mackintire is right. If I run my E4300 at stock with my TTBT, it takes few seconds for the fan to spin at boot. And even in windows idle, if I turn on the air con in the room, the fan stop spinning sometimes. The first time it did that I was like WTF :eek: but when I checked the temp the proc was at 20-22 C then I guessed it was so cold that the fan could stop spinning.

Couple of new driver releases, Jmicron updated:

ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/W...1.17.25.02.zip


Realtek 889A codec, V 1.77:

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

my p5b was a good overclocker but no where close to my p35c
but overvolting memory
if i were you i'd wait for x38

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I dont think im going to go for X38. I really need the board now, and ill complete this rig. When X38 and Barelona come out ill probably build something new.

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Originally Posted by Inteleron

I have a P5B-DX thats making me pull my hair. Will the P35-DS3R give me a solid oc on my E6300, possibly even better? Another thing is that I had a p965-Ds3 back in the day and it had a horrible problem with oc/coldbug. Has this been resolved? and also hows the droop, and mem voltages on the new DS3R?

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Absolutely not. The DS3R has droop and no pencil mod plus stupid voltage options. 1.6 - 1.8 nothing in between...

Would be nice not to have the board running higher Vcore when idle than under load. I see 1.36v idle 1.30v load with BIOS set at 1.425v. Kinda annoying. But it's not really stopping me from achieving the max of the CPU (or of the Scythe Ninja cooler LOL).

The Vdroop must vary between boards or between CPUs because why would the BIOS guys even label the voltages that high if they aren't even close?

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Originally Posted by dnottis

Absolutely not. The DS3R has droop and no pencil mod plus stupid voltage options. 1.6 - 1.8 nothing in between...

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Wow dnottis, so what board would u guys recommend then? Im totally stumped on p35 boards :shakes:

Anyone having trouble with waking up from S3 sleep?
I have to do a hard power off/on for it to come back alive.
Tested with X1900XT and 8800GTS, no other add-in cards.

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Originally Posted by Inteleron

Wow dnottis, so what board would u guys recommend then? Im totally stumped on p35 boards :shakes:

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the ds3r is a great board as long as you can live with voltage options
my p35c-dsr3 can go to 576fsb my old one did only 510fsb
its just like micron chips n binning :rofl:

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

the ds3r is a great board as long as you can live with voltage options
my p35c-dsr3 can go to 576fsb my old one did only 510fsb
its just like micron chips n binning :rofl:

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yea but i need them voltage options for my teams.

Guys,

I accidentally posted this to the beta bios section first.

I am feeling a little stupid, but I am trying to OC my 965 DQ6 rev1 using the F11 BIOS and I can't seem to find a place in the F11 BIOS to adjust the memory timings. Am I just blind? There is an entry to us 2 different "modes" on the memory, but it's just like a mode1/mode2 thing, not a "auto by SPD vs. manual" thing.

Is there a place in the F11 to do this? If not, is there a general consensus on the board about the best BIOS for this board that I can tweak the memory timings on?

Harlech

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Originally Posted by zoob

Anyone having trouble with waking up from S3 sleep?
I have to do a hard power off/on for it to come back alive.
Tested with X1900XT and 8800GTS, no other add-in cards.

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Yep, I have the same problem.

It has either to do with the refresh voltage on some memory sticks or the voltage sag when the CPU tries to reinitialize.

Either way....it improved with F5 but it still does not work on my machine.

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Originally Posted by Harlech

Guys,

I accidentally posted this to the beta bios section first.

I am feeling a little stupid, but I am trying to OC my 965 DQ6 rev1 using the F11 BIOS and I can't seem to find a place in the F11 BIOS to adjust the memory timings. Am I just blind? There is an entry to us 2 different "modes" on the memory, but it's just like a mode1/mode2 thing, not a "auto by SPD vs. manual" thing.

Is there a place in the F11 to do this? If not, is there a general consensus on the board about the best BIOS for this board that I can tweak the memory timings on?

Harlech

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Hit Control F1 to enable them. They will be in the same place your CPU clock speeds are...

Got a P35C-DS3R and in general is a nice mobo. OCed my Q6600 G0 to 3400Mhz with 1.32v, and pushed mine A-Data Vitesta Extreme to 1063Mhz(5-4-4-8/Turbo)@2.1v.
In my opinion, the only real bad thing is the huge drop in the vcore, have to wait for the pencil mode!!!:D

Idle
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2023/idlelx2.th.jpg

Load
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4213/loadlr0.th.jpg

Ram

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7439/5448al8.th.jpg

Folding
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2...tulony7.th.jpg

OCCT
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8...cpu1yf3.th.png http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6...cpu2lt8.th.png http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5...cpu3po1.th.png http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...cpu4ba2.th.png

I've read that RMClock can re-enable EIST on an overvolted rig. The Gigabyte BIOS doesn't. Can anyone verify whether RMClock can change voltage if the BIOS is set for a vcore other than "normal"?

I'm waiting for a Vista x64 signed driver RMClock. Can't run it right now because of that. Sounds like they are going to make people pay for the signed driver. Not surprising I suppose considering it costs a big chunk of change for a signed driver (thank MS for the BS requirement).

Is BIOS F6 worth upgrading to? I am currently using Bios F4.

TIA

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I've read that RMClock can re-enable EIST on an overvolted rig. The Gigabyte BIOS doesn't. Can anyone verify whether RMClock can change voltage if the BIOS is set for a vcore other than "normal"?

I'm waiting for a Vista x64 signed driver RMClock. Can't run it right now because of that. Sounds like they are going to make people pay for the signed driver. Not surprising I suppose considering it costs a big chunk of change for a signed driver (thank MS for the BS requirement).

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I don't know why Gigabyte just doesn't do this themselves? Is there some kind of hardware limitation on their boards? This is the reason I don't change my VCore because of the lack of EIST support when playing the the CPU voltage.

I also want a 1T/2T option for the memory :)

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Originally Posted by Burner27

Is BIOS F6 worth upgrading to? I am currently using Bios F4.

TIA

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runs fine here.

Ok,
At first I wanted to pull my hair out (whats left of it anyhow). I could not get it to see both the cdrom and pata HD at the same time. I got around it by using my usb drive to load the SATA drivers and Chipset drivers. Just a really peculilar problem and the tech support for Gigabyte couldn't help other than saying "Probably a problem with the Benq DVD recorder and the IHC9 chipset." Anywho, I finally got it to work. Keep in mind I did not start with a clean install, so that was part of my headache. I had been trying a system with AMD and Biostar (easy setup by the way) and decided to go the Intel route and didn't want to have to reinstall XP since I have an original before SP1. Anyway, got it to work and am now OC'ing my 2160 to 3Ghz. However, I have ran into a curious problem. CPU-ID shows it still at 2Ghz, 333FSB with a multi of 6, but the software that came with the board shows the 3Ghz and so does properties under "My Computer" tab. I know it is overclocked because I did a baseline conversion of a MPEG2 file to DIVX when it wasn't OC'd and then while it was OC'd and got a 63% increase in conversion time. My question is, has anyone else ever had CPU-ID report false information before? I downloaded the latest version of the software. It's just without that report I have no bragging rights, :mad:

Anyway, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Utnorris

Nevermind, but iswear it was showing odd numbers. :D

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=245468

Utnorris

I sent an email requesting the following to be implemented on Gigabyte boards.

-1T/2T memory option.
-Functional EIST when changing CPU voltage.
-Actual voltage reading on PSU rails instead of "OK" and "FAIL"
-Actual voltage readings on RAM, NB, etc. instead of +.1, +.2, etc.
-Display of NB temperature if possible.

Everyone needs to start sending them emails about this. I don't care about BIOS updates unless is has something of the above done because F4 has been perfectly stable, but it just the things above that get to me.

what email address do you use?

lol i tried emailin them for more volt options to vdim got too many stupid responses
like hardware limited lol
wth is that like other cheaper p35 board have better options lol

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Originally Posted by NJDevilsFan21

I sent an email requesting the following to be implemented on Gigabyte boards.

-1T/2T memory option.
-Functional EIST when changing CPU voltage.
-Actual voltage reading on PSU rails instead of "OK" and "FAIL"
-Actual voltage readings on RAM, NB, etc. instead of +.1, +.2, etc.
-Display of NB temperature if possible.

Everyone needs to start sending them emails about this. I don't care about BIOS updates unless is has something of the above done because F4 has been perfectly stable, but it just the things above that get to me.

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You aren't gonna get 1T on an Intel chipset.

I'm looking at Everest here and I see 5 CPU temps. The 4 cores and a separate "CPU temp" which reports about 15-20 C lower than the die temps. It'll say 36 C while the cores are a bit over 50 C.

What exactly is that reading? It changes very quickly between idle and load temps, so it's not an external thermistor. It must be something on the CPU.

For those using the p35-dq6 which ram slot are you using ?

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

For those using the p35-dq6 which ram slot are you using ?

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I am using all slots, and the mem is running at 1000Mhz. :D

using yellow slots (1 and 3). But was using the reds several weeks ago. On both, at 3.9, I used turbo mode and manually set all secondary timings except "phase" to get stability, performance also was same.

thanks

richard just got the x38-dq6 i guess i'll be following ya lol
damn i got suked in lol
i should get it in 3 days

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runs fine here.

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Would you recommend it over the F4 Bios?

I like how the BIOS revision info only talks about "PS2 port compatibility fixes". LMAO. They needed to try a few times to get PS2 right? Great. Real state of the art stuff there.

F4 is working very well here. This board is much more fun to try to overclock than my 965P-DS3 3.3, with its ridiculous infinite-power-on/off-cycle if it's remotely unhappy with BIOS settings quirk.

When I run orthos I'm getting freezes after 2-3 minutes of it running. cpu temp are in the 50'sc, all other benchmark tools work perfectly. any ideas ?

Is it a good idea to build a new gaming system(8800 Ultra) with a Q6600 on a budget P35 board? I'm looking for a modest overclock of around or just over 3Ghz.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Peace Qwidgybo...

Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

On another note, i have been having problems with my PC powering on and off while posting and then resets my clocks back to default, the OC is perfectly stable, tested with orthos for over 24 hours, this was at 356*9 if i go to 360 *9 the problem goes away, (still need to test more, but it hasnt reset the clocks yet) very wierd.... anyone else having similar problems?

I haven't messed with anything other than F4 because it's doing exactly what I want. I did have POST problems at 3.0 Ghz / 333 FSB and stock volts tho, which I attributed to the CPU volts not being quite enough for a happy POST. My P35-DS3R runs at a very low voltage at stock settings, around 1.18 load, which is obviously pushing your luck at 3 Ghz lol. Was completely stable in Windows testing, oddly though.

I would suggest a touch more CPU voltage and see what happens.

As for Q6600 and P35-DS3R being a good combo, well it's working fine for me. It's definitely more fun to work with than the 965P-DS3 I also have. However, that could be because of my E4300's dislike for high FSBs. I had to reset the BIOS about a zillion times due to infinite reboot cycles when trying to get that setup where I wanted it.

The vDroop of these Intel boards, and these gigabyte boards in particular, is a very odd phenomenon. But it's not really an impediment unless you want to go super high volts, probably above 1.50v by sensor.

Using F5F with my DS4 and not F4 only since it's known to provide slower memory performance but I'm interested in hearing if latest F6/F7 bioses gives any advantage over the later F5 bioses though.

Delta9b> What you mean? That bios letting you choose FSB strap or what? :o Would be sweet so I could perhaps use 505x7 with good results as opposed to now when FSB strap changes at 500 so 8x multi is better choise.

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When I run orthos I'm getting freezes after 2-3 minutes of it running. cpu temp are in the 50'sc, all other benchmark tools work perfectly. any ideas ?

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System freezes or orthos fails?

Either way it is not stable on orthos, try going up a notch or two in vcore or temporarily loosening memory main timings or secondary timings. (or drop multiplier to 8x and if runs OK, then rules out memory).

I have same setup and overclock but watercooled, when I increased to 3.9, I recently had to increase my pcie to +0.1V and to 107 to keep stable (was using +.05 and 105 at 3.83). I have my mch and FSB to normal, but you could try upping those first notch or two, all boards can be little different.

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Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

On another note, i have been having problems with my PC powering on and off while posting and then resets my clocks back to default, the OC is perfectly stable, tested with orthos for over 24 hours, this was at 356*9 if i go to 360 *9 the problem goes away, (still need to test more, but it hasnt reset the clocks yet) very wierd.... anyone else having similar problems?

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Im using F6a, no problems. First boot it tried mem @ 1333 haha. Had to reset it again, came up at stock, re-oc'd and it's been fine since.


Does anyone have a working pencil vdroop mod for the DS3R? And by working I mean one other than that asshat Shimano's which doesn't even friggin' work....

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Im using F6a, no problems. First boot it tried mem @ 1333 haha. Had to reset it again, came up at stock, re-oc'd and it's been fine since.


Does anyone have a working pencil vdroop mod for the DS3R? And by working I mean one other than that asshat Shimano's which doesn't even friggin' work....

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Excepting the remark at Shammi, I would like to know a working vdroop mod also. Just got this board and it seems nice, but the droops is the poops, so to speak. Tried Shammi's pencil mod but all it did was lower vcore! aka I set vcore in bios to 1.45. Cpuz reads 1.392 which drops to 1.36 under load. With pencil mod it drops to 1.32 under load. Horrible...


Ply

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Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

On another note, i have been having problems with my PC powering on and off while posting and then resets my clocks back to default, the OC is perfectly stable, tested with orthos for over 24 hours, this was at 356*9 if i go to 360 *9 the problem goes away, (still need to test more, but it hasnt reset the clocks yet) very wierd.... anyone else having similar problems?

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I'm using F6a, didn't notice any difference from the F5. But I do have notice difference from F4 to F5. With the F5/F6a I can set the memset 3.3 performance setting (forgot what name they give in the BIOS) to 7 while before it wouldn't post and I had to stay at 8.

Nice thread, good info :D

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System freezes or orthos fails?

Either way it is not stable on orthos, try going up a notch or two in vcore or temporarily loosening memory main timings or secondary timings. (or drop multiplier to 8x and if runs OK, then rules out memory).

I have same setup and overclock but watercooled, when I increased to 3.9, I recently had to increase my pcie to +0.1V and to 107 to keep stable (was using +.05 and 105 at 3.83). I have my mch and FSB to normal, but you could try upping those first notch or two, all boards can be little different.

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Thanks, will try this and report back.

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Using F5F with my DS4 and not F4 only since it's known to provide slower memory performance but I'm interested in hearing if latest F6/F7 bioses gives any advantage over the later F5 bioses though.

Delta9b> What you mean? That bios letting you choose FSB strap or what? :o Would be sweet so I could perhaps use 505x7 with good results as opposed to now when FSB strap changes at 500 so 8x multi is better choise.

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I will try snap a shot of the BIOS screen just now and show you what i mean.
On the other hand, my board still did it reposting trick this morning :shrug:
in testing yesterday i could get it to do repeat the problem at 356FSB but at 360 it wasnt happening, it happened again this morning on 360, maybe this e2160 doesnt like such a high FSB, need to test it at stock settings today to see if it does the same, if it does then i am RMA'ing the board for another one as i havent heard of ppl having these problems, the techie i spoke to at the supplier yesterday was trying to tell me that the reason it does it in the morning is because my processor is to cold :rofl: :ROTF: atleast he made me laugh, they really should employ people who know what they doing

hi there could any1 help me with this mobo.
no matter what i do i cant find how to change my ram timings in bios.
there is no option there 2 do this.
i have f6 bios. thx in responce. ;)

Dazboots, hit ctrl + f1 at the MAIN BIOS screen, then go into M.I.T and all the timings will be there

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Im using F6a, no problems. First boot it tried mem @ 1333 haha. Had to reset it again, came up at stock, re-oc'd and it's been fine since.


Does anyone have a working pencil vdroop mod for the DS3R? And by working I mean one other than that asshat Shimano's which doesn't even friggin' work....

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Link for download of the F6a.:)

Here is what i was talking about with the new F6a BIOS

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3637/dscf1184ny7.jpg

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Link for download of the F6a.:)

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It is posted a few pages back, if you can't find it send me your e-mail and i will mail it to you.

But that bios is not for the P35-DQ6.

no its for the DS3R, sorry cant help you with the DQ6 BIOS

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But that bios is not for the P35-DQ6.

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F6a is for DS3R..

http://station-drivers.com/page/giga...a-p35t-dq6.htm

F4 is the latest for yours.

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Excepting the remark at Shammi, I would like to know a working vdroop mod also. Just got this board and it seems nice, but the droops is the poops, so to speak. Tried Shammi's pencil mod but all it did was lower vcore! aka I set vcore in bios to 1.45. Cpuz reads 1.392 which drops to 1.36 under load. With pencil mod it drops to 1.32 under load. Horrible...


Ply

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Samething here. I got less vcore and more vdroop with his mod.

The reason for the shot at Shimano is that he puts pencil mods in all his reviews - UNTESTED!? So this asshat is giving people information that could knowingly destroy your PC. Anyone that stupid deserves to be called an Asshat. LeStat and I have called him on this but he refuses to answer replies, PMs. Basically he's a coward... posts some BS then won't man up when he's wrong - which is basically...everytime....lesson learned - Shamino doesn't know what the hell he's doing when he gives pencil mods out. Just untested guesses.

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Dazboots, hit ctrl + f1 at the MAIN BIOS screen, then go into M.I.T and all the timings will be there

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thx again u have been a great help ;)

Guys, Realtek have some brand new drivers for the onboard 8111B Lan chip...too tired to provide link.

:-)

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Here is what i was talking about with the new F6a BIOS

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Looks pretty much same as with F5F, but yea u can't manually specify the straps and I'm talking about the FSB strap myself which changes from 1066 to 800MHz for me at 500MHz FSB, dunno if that's what you're talking about though. Would be nice being able to have it at 1066 while at 500MHz+

Would be awesome if we could choose the FSB straps

I wonder if the strap setting is what causes certain memory multipliers to just plain not work at various clocks while others do.... pretty likely.

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I wonder if the strap setting is what causes certain memory multipliers to just plain not work at various clocks while others do.... pretty likely.

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Yeh I wonder the same as I'd wanna get the mobo to even boot with x1.25 / 5:4 ram divider. :( This kit is rock stable at 8x469 with x1.2 / 5:6 divider ie 562.8MHz at 2.2v with very tight subtimings too but upping vdimm, fsb and vmch voltages doesn't do anything, doesn't boot with that divider and I'm sure the RAM should handle 586MHz too...

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Samething here. I got less vcore and more vdroop with his mod.

The reason for the shot at Shimano is that he puts pencil mods in all his reviews - UNTESTED!? So this asshat is giving people information that could knowingly destroy your PC. Anyone that stupid deserves to be called an Asshat. LeStat and I have called him on this but he refuses to answer replies, PMs. Basically he's a coward... posts some BS then won't man up when he's wrong - which is basically...everytime....lesson learned - Shamino doesn't know what the hell he's doing when he gives pencil mods out. Just untested guesses.

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Lol, ouch. I must say though that the pencil mod for this mobo most assuredly does not work.

I did finally manage to get it stable at 3.45ghz, vdroop is definitely holding back higher clocks. That and the stupid jump from 1.6-1.8-2.0vcore. What was Gigabyte thinking?

But the real killer was getting the timings for my 4gigs of G.skill PK dialed in. Took the longest to find stable timings. Finally tried the ones G.skill recommended for the p965 ds3 and they are working great staying around 800mhz. They did 1100 on my Amd board so should have some room to increase them...


Ply

Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F6 BIOS is listed here:

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Moth...ProductID=2532

Cheers :D

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System freezes or orthos fails?

Either way it is not stable on orthos, try going up a notch or two in vcore or temporarily loosening memory main timings or secondary timings. (or drop multiplier to 8x and if runs OK, then rules out memory).

I have same setup and overclock but watercooled, when I increased to 3.9, I recently had to increase my pcie to +0.1V and to 107 to keep stable (was using +.05 and 105 at 3.83). I have my mch and FSB to normal, but you could try upping those first notch or two, all boards can be little different.

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I bumped the ram volts, no freeze while orthos but hard reboot

settings +.40ram +.10vpcie +.20fsb +.050mch pcie 115mhz vcore 1.50v

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I bumped the ram volts, no freeze while orthos but hard reboot

settings +.40ram +.10vpcie +.20fsb +.050mch pcie 115mhz vcore 1.50v

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whats actual volts @+4

[QUOTE=Delta9b;2452929]Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

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Thats exactly what the p35c-ds3r needs. Have a e6850 /2x1g crucial pc8500. Keeps jumping back and forth from 1066-800 strapping. got sick of clearing cmos to get the 1066 as ram is rated. presently at 3.6 (8x450). Had fsb at 510 on 1066 strapping , orthos stable 8+hrs and same memtest, rebooted to try lower vcore and didnt like, rebooted and back to 800 strapping. :mad: Vcore set 1.45 in bios actual 1.41 idle, 1.39 load.

system is stable, yet when i coldboot, often system hangs at OS load. have to reset anywhere from 2-4x befor it opens up. Often get a small error window saying Not For This Chipset! but everytime i see that is good news, because I know system wont hang. Also, seems like (all air cooled,Zalman 9700 cpu cooler) I hear fan rev up I know system will open windows no probs.

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Has anyone tried the F6a BIOS?
I flashed to it the other day, in the memory divider section there is the option to choose which straps you want to use with the memory divider ie 800, 1066, 1333 not all have the option though, im still waiting on my crucial ram to test it (my current ram wont do the option they give for the strap change) anyone had a chance to play with this yet?

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Thats exactly what the p35c-ds3r needs. Have a e6850 /2x1g crucial pc8500. Keeps jumping back and forth from 1066-800 strapping. got sick of clearing cmos to get the 1066 as ram is rated. presently at 3.6 (8x450). Had fsb at 510 on 1066 strapping , orthos stable 8+hrs and same memtest, rebooted to try lower vcore and didnt like, rebooted and back to 800 strapping. :mad: Vcore set 1.45 in bios actual 1.41 idle, 1.39 load.

system is stable, yet when i coldboot, often system hangs at OS load. have to reset anywhere from 2-4x befor it opens up. Often get a small error window saying Not For This Chipset! but everytime i see that is good news, because I know system wont hang. Also, seems like (all air cooled,Zalman 9700 cpu cooler) I hear fan rev up I know system will open windows no probs.

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after much testing with mine
best results are 510-530fsb ramtimings 4-4-4-10 memory 1020-1060mhz

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I bumped the ram volts, no freeze while orthos but hard reboot

settings +.40ram +.10vpcie +.20fsb +.050mch pcie 115mhz vcore 1.50v

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I get hard reboots on orthos when I try for 4.0, no matter my settings. Highest I can do orthos stable is 9x442, but have to use 1.5 vcore, so staying at 3.9.

I would try multi at 8 first, if runs orthos, then you ruled out memory. Then FSB+0.1 and +0.1mch and maybe start at 3.87 get it stable and walk it up few mhz at time.

Also you could try setting performance on standard instead of turbo, or try downloading memset and decrease performance level to 11 from 7 just as test (F4 bios has performance level 11 and seemed to overclock easier, though with worse performance)

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I get hard reboots on orthos when I try for 4.0, no matter my settings. Highest I can do orthos stable is 9x442, but have to use 1.5 vcore, so staying at 3.9.

I would try multi at 8 first, if runs orthos, then you ruled out memory. Then FSB+0.1 and +0.1mch and maybe start at 3.87 get it stable and walk it up few mhz at time.

Also you could try setting performance on standard instead of turbo, or try downloading memset and decrease performance level to 11 from 7 just as test (F4 bios has performance level 11 and seemed to overclock easier, though with worse performance)

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ok will try that

Update: I lowered mhz to 3900mhz and increase MCH to +.100 and Orthos ran 4 hours and 30 minutes until core 0 failed. will go up on voltagea notch and see.

What are the starting volts before we apply more. it is said that ram is 1.80v but what about fsb and mch?
thanks

Hi guys! When I check a actual volts with DMM on my new Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, I was shcoked. When I set 1.45v on CPU in BIOS, on DMM i'd see 1.55 :eek: On memory +0.2 :confused: Maybe I used wrong measure point, but I dont know :shrug: Pls somebody check volts on your mobo... :up:

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Hi guys! When I check a actual volts with DMM on my new Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, I was shcoked. When I set 1.45v on CPU in BIOS, on DMM i'd see 1.55 :eek: On memory +0.2 :confused: Maybe I used wrong measure point, but I dont know :shrug: Pls somebody check volts on your mobo... :up:

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Wow that sounds scary if it also overvolts on CPU voltage but since my E6750 in a caseless setup seems hotter than I would have imagined at 1.55 bios setting which becomes 1.52v in windows (1.5v under load). It gets around 67~68C max in orthos but for a caseless setup and tuniq tower 120 it seems a bit more than I had thought especially since it's at like 48~50C at stock voltage. So I hope my mobo ain't actually using 1.65v or sth for the cpu, that would be kind of high for a 65nm cpu on air for 24/7 usage. :rolleyes:

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Hi guys! When I check a actual volts with DMM on my new Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, I was shcoked. When I set 1.45v on CPU in BIOS, on DMM i'd see 1.55 :eek: On memory +0.2 :confused: Maybe I used wrong measure point, but I dont know :shrug: Pls somebody check volts on your mobo... :up:

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chek again
there is a vdroop
and memory might be overvolting

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