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10-02-2005, 06:32 AM
Draxx

Sideeffect, is it possible for a rev2 1.B with the temps/voltages and fan speeds showing in the BIOS please?
10-02-2005, 06:54 AM
Special_K

Mehran - it sounds like your overclock is too high, that is why it freezes
10-02-2005, 06:59 AM
Nossie

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Originally Posted by Special_K

Nossie - K gets the exact same 218MHz barrier as you =[

do you know what revision your mobo is? is it A1 like this one?

i got the same revision as you :

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37795&stc=1

btw look at this links :

http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=73641.0
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=71487.0
10-02-2005, 07:21 AM
sideeffect

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Originally Posted by Draxx

Sideeffect, is it possible for a rev2 1.B with the temps/voltages and fan speeds showing in the BIOS please?

They already do show in the bios. In the hardware monitor page.

If your refering to the pictures they are taken using biosview in windows so its not actually what the bios looks like. It doesnt link to the sensors in biosview.
10-02-2005, 07:46 AM
Draxx

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

They already do show in the bios. In the hardware monitor page.

If your refering to the pictures they are taken using biosview in windows so its not actually what the bios looks like. It doesnt link to the sensors in biosview.

Ah, excellent :)
10-02-2005, 08:25 AM
Nossie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Special_K

Nossie - K gets the exact same 218MHz barrier as you =[

i found something, set your HT multi 4x, CPU multi 4x, HTT/FSB @ 230-260, memory divider = 200.

Now im stable in windows @ 240 2-2-2-5 3.3v. But my CPU is only @ 960mhz lol.

Only with these settings i can boot with my memory @ stable higher then 218mhz :

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100 divider= every cpu multiplier bootable
133 divider= only x5 cpu multil is bootable
166 divider= only x6 cpu multi is bootable
200 divider= only x4 cpu multi is bootable

so i think there is something wrong with the bioses, they are forcing different settings on the ram @ different dividers/CPU multi's or something ;s, or the motherboard just isnt very compatible with our bh-5 sticks
10-02-2005, 10:01 AM
Zeus...

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Originally Posted by Nossie

so i think there is something wrong with the bioses, they are forcing different settings on the ram @ different dividers/CPU multi's or something ;s, or the motherboard just isnt very compatible with our bh-5 sticks

Or it could be that your mem controller cant handle it. Mine use to run at overclock in sig - but now it will allow boot at STD - some 939 mem controllers r better than others and others dont seem to last then u r back at STD
10-02-2005, 10:07 AM
Nossie

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Originally Posted by Zeus...

Or it could be that your mem controller cant handle it. Mine use to run at overclock in sig - but now it will allow boot at STD - some 939 mem controllers r better than others and others dont seem to last then u r back at STD

yes, but the strange thing is, i can run memtest86 for ours without errors @ 240fsb, cpu multi 10x, divider 1:1. but no boot in windows :S.
10-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Zeus...

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Originally Posted by Nossie

yes, but the strange thing is, i can run memtest86 for ours without errors @ 240fsb, cpu multi 10x, divider 1:1. but no boot in windows :S.

mine cpu would do 2700MHZ prime stable and mem would hit 285Htt when finding the max for the CPU and mem seperatly but when I ran the mem and CPU (non underclocked) the bast stablity I could get was 2550MHz as sig and more volts through the CPU made it less stable. I am begining to think thats its the OCZ mem booster thats done the mem contrllor in - but its just a passing thought.

But back to your issue sounds like its not stable if it wont boot in windows reguards if it passes memtest. what Volts u got through the CPU?
10-02-2005, 10:25 AM
Nossie

atm im running 4 x HT, 10 x 245HTT, VID + 5.0% ( 1.47volt +- ) , 166memory divider (memory @ 204mhz).

(venice e6 3500+)
10-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Zeus...

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Originally Posted by Nossie

atm im running 4 x HT, 10 x 245HTT, VID + 5.0% ( 1.47volt +- ) , 166memory divider (memory @ 204mhz).

(venice e6 3500+)

Have u tried less volts!!! it worked for me and I also found the 1.8bios to overclock the best but never tried the 1.36. Now mine just isnt stable except at STD any bios (wish it would die alltogether)

Also want temps u getting under load - I found anything above 55 degrees celcius became unstable with air
10-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Draxx

Having trouble with 150 divider, I run system at 280 x 9 for 2.54GHz and the memory works fine at 180Mhz 2-2-2-10 1T 2.7v default (BH-6), now when I enable the 150 Mhz mem divider I get 210Mhz on the memory which is what I want.

However, running at 2.8v 2-3-2-10 1T its fine in Windows, but load up 3D Mark it crashes.

Any advice on BIOS setting doe the BH-6 at 210Mhz?

Thanks
10-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Nossie

Temps :

CPU @ stock 3500+
Idle : 27-29
Load : 37-39

CPU @ 3800+ 1.47volt ( i can try at lower volt i think )
idle : 29-31
load : 39-43

cooled with zalman CNPS9500LED + 3 intake & 2 outtake fans. so i think temps are not realy the problem
10-02-2005, 11:20 AM
Mehran

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Originally Posted by Special_K

Mehran - it sounds like your overclock is too high, that is why it freezes

No, I don't think so. is 2700 much?!?!?! :confused:
I don't know what the hell happened.
I mean I could overclock it to 2700 vary easily.
But now I can't.
Another strange problem I have is I can have my ram running @ DDR 497 very stable. And of course I can run my CPU at 2700 but not really stable.
So... I have to set the multiplier to x9 and my ram running at 166 with 3.0 3 3 8 at 2.80v. And I set my HTT at 300. the Vcore is about 1.65. But my computer is unable to POST :eek: :(
And the other problem was the USB problem as I mentioned above.
Any suggestion?
Thx in advance everyone. ;)
10-02-2005, 11:34 AM
Zeus...

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Originally Posted by Draxx

Having trouble with 150 divider, I run system at 280 x 9 for 2.54GHz and the memory works fine at 180Mhz 2-2-2-10 1T 2.7v default (BH-6), now when I enable the 150 Mhz mem divider I get 210Mhz on the memory which is what I want.

However, running at 2.8v 2-3-2-10 1T its fine in Windows, but load up 3D Mark it crashes.

Any advice on BIOS setting doe the BH-6 at 210Mhz?

Thanks

210Mhz @ 2.8v 2-3-2-10 1T sounds abit on the tight side to me- thats why it crashes in 3dmark

Nossie

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CPU @ 3800+ 1.47volt ( i can try at lower volt i think )
idle : 29-31
load : 39-43

well with those temps up or lower the volts 43 load is good
10-02-2005, 11:51 AM
Draxx

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Originally Posted by Zeus...

210Mhz @ 2.8v 2-3-2-10 1T sounds abit on the tight side to me- thats why it crashes in 3dmark

I though BH could to those tight timings stock is 200Mhz 2-2-2-5 at 2.7v.
10-02-2005, 12:05 PM
Millyons

just give them more volts, give them 2.85 thats no problem for them that makes it 2.9 real voltage. make sure u leave trcd @ 3 and then use A64 tweaker in windows to change it to 2 since the vdimm drops 0.1v if trcd is set to 2 in bios. if you are concerned put a fan over them but honestly 2.9 is NOTHING for BH based ram. I even had my CH5 at 3.4v for months without a fan
10-02-2005, 12:28 PM
Draxx

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Originally Posted by Millyons

just give them more volts, give them 2.85 thats no problem for them that makes it 2.9 real voltage. make sure u leave trcd @ 3 and then use A64 tweaker in windows to change it to 2 since the vdimm drops 0.1v if trcd is set to 2 in bios. if you are concerned put a fan over them but honestly 2.9 is NOTHING for BH based ram. I even had my CH5 at 3.4v for months without a fan

So currently having it set at 2-2-2-10 1T at 2.7v is actually 2.6v??

Why is this?
10-02-2005, 12:50 PM
Millyons

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Originally Posted by Draxx

So currently having it set at 2-2-2-10 1T at 2.7v is actually 2.6v??

Why is this?

Yap

don't know why that happens but it does, try what i said and let us know what u got
10-02-2005, 01:37 PM
Zeus...

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Originally Posted by Draxx

I though BH could to those tight timings stock is 200Mhz 2-2-2-5 at 2.7v.

200MHz np but you said 210MHz! so its up the volts or relax the timings
10-02-2005, 07:07 PM
el rolio

random update:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41332

basically was bored this evening for a bit, and hot too :O ? anyhoo decided to just go for the 2700 with the mem on a divider. so obviously first choice is 300 x 9 instead of 270 x 10. well without upping my over vid % to 10 (and its hot and i am awaitin my panaflo's for the rad) the temps would be like 55 deg on load so thats a waste of time. anyhoo so as you can see im runnin 295 in the meantime. will go for the full 2.7 ghz when i get the new fans + winter is cominnnnnnnnng! all for you mr westcoast

oh and cuz duh roli..... cpu mhz is king!
10-02-2005, 09:14 PM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nossie

atm im running 4 x HT, 10 x 245HTT, VID + 5.0% ( 1.47volt +- ) , 166memory divider (memory @ 204mhz).
(venice e6 3500+)

I hate to plug my own bios but ....

It has 183 divider and the 183 divider is exactly the same memory settings as the 200 divider. The 166 and 150 are both tighter. Might be worth you trying it to see if you can run memory higher with 183 divider.
10-02-2005, 09:18 PM
FlyingHamster

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

I hate to plug my own bios but ....

It has 183 divider and the 183 divider is exactly the same memory settings as the 200 divider. The 166 and 150 are both tighter. Might be worth you trying it to see if you can run memory higher with 183 divider.

which bios are u talking about?
10-02-2005, 09:29 PM
D3kMatrix

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Originally Posted by FlyingHamster

which bios are u talking about?

v1.A and v1.B MOD versions

Link for downloads are in his sig and mine.
10-03-2005, 02:40 AM
Mehran

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehran

No, I don't think so. is 2700 much?!?!?! :confused:
I don't know what the hell happened.
I mean I could overclock it to 2700 vary easily.
But now I can't.
Another strange problem I have is I can have my ram running @ DDR 497 very stable. And of course I can run my CPU at 2700 but not really stable.
So... I have to set the multiplier to x9 and my ram running at 166 with 3.0 3 3 8 at 2.80v. And I set my HTT at 300. the Vcore is about 1.65. But my computer is unable to POST :eek: :(
And the other problem was the USB problem as I mentioned above.
Any suggestion?
Thx in advance everyone. ;)

What kind of forum is this?! Do I have to quote my questions every time I visit?
I don't know why everyone ignores me :confused:
U all answer everyone but me. Thats not fair. :nono:

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