ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

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02-12-2009, 02:53 PM
jason4207

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tergon

So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?

:eek:

Do you have a link? That would be awesome!
02-12-2009, 04:02 PM
529th

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason4207

You aren't going to get far at all w/ everything on auto. Go back a few pages and look for a guide by Simps. It should help you get started.

450 is easy. 470-480 stable will take a little bit of work, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. 480+ is going to take a lot more effort to get completely stable if its even possible w/ one's particular hardware.

Your new chip might be easier to OC or more difficult. Each is different.

Could you tell me what post numbers they are. I have my max post settings to 60 in my control panel. I've looked but don't know how many pages back; also tried doing a search. Thanks in advance!
02-12-2009, 04:04 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by 529th

Could you tell me what post numbers they are. I have my max post settings to 60 in my control panel. I've looked but don't know how many pages back; also tried doing a search. Thanks in advance!

What seems to be the problem??
02-12-2009, 04:07 PM
Tergon

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvi...-X58,7012.html
Last line of the main Paragraph.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason4207

:eek:

Do you have a link? That would be awesome!
02-12-2009, 07:21 PM
529th

To: Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by 529th

So, i've finally tried finding the max my components will go.
custom H20 btw

Q9650 - FPO/Batch# L820B033
MIIF
DDR2 1000 2* 2x2 kit
Enermax Revolution 950

tries:
1 I've ran memtest86+ 2.11 1 pass at 500fsb 7 multi and it passed but would not boot
2 Leaving everything on auto except the fsb to 450 boots fine passes both small and large FFT's in prime 95, IBT running ATI tool (Scanning for artifacts) - vcore read 1.344 ~ 1.352
I've heard small FFTs are for CPU stability and large are more for subsystem & RAM testing more than cpu testings - is that correct?

I'm not sure about how to set my bios for 4.5Ghz - I've actually ordered another Q9650 thinking it maybe the weak link

Can I get a few suggestions from the experienced people here? Thanks

Then this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason4207

You aren't going to get far at all w/ everything on auto. Go back a few pages and look for a guide by Simps. It should help you get started.

450 is easy. 470-480 stable will take a little bit of work, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. 480+ is going to take a lot more effort to get completely stable if its even possible w/ one's particular hardware.

Your new chip might be easier to OC or more difficult. Each is different.
02-12-2009, 09:41 PM
radaja

529th,here you go.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2718
02-13-2009, 03:07 AM
529th

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

529th,here you go.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2718

OMG, wow, thanks! :up:
02-13-2009, 12:27 PM
e.v.o

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tergon

So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?

You won't see SLI on any P45 Board. It's just as simple as it is.
02-13-2009, 12:39 PM
GeorgeVasil

Hello @All:p:

CPU Clock Skew 500ps.
NB Clock Skew 600ps.

Custom W/C @ CPU/VGA/NB

~40min Dual Prime Blend..:up:

Still Testing..:D:D:D

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3666/85533th5.th.jpg
02-13-2009, 03:42 PM
humeyboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

You won't see SLI on any P45 Board. It's just as simple as it is.

Say's who ?

The link seems to hint different and don't come out with this 2x8x (or 1x16x) nonsense as its PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth not PCI-E 1.0/1.1
02-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Grnfinger

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Originally Posted by humeyboy

Say's who ?

The link seems to hint different and don't come out with this 2x8x (or 1x16x) nonsense as its PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth not PCI-E 1.0/1.1

Oh come on now, this is Toms Hardware he is quoting.
You might as well quote the Inquirer:rofl:
02-13-2009, 04:49 PM
humeyboy

And ?

You think a users input here has more clout than a quote elsewhere ?

I ain't saying its happening but I will not be going by above users input anyhow.

If they can do Software SLI on other Chipsets I see no reason they cannot do it on P45.
02-13-2009, 05:07 PM
Grnfinger

can and will are two very different things.....

You put your faith in Toms, I'll look elsewhere
02-14-2009, 07:53 AM
bito

Something to get us back on topic Gents.....First try at 4.3Ghz :

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...504_3ghz-1.jpg
02-14-2009, 09:13 AM
radaja

"ugh oh"
02-14-2009, 09:14 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil

Hello @All:p:

CPU Clock Skew 500ps.
NB Clock Skew 600ps.

Custom W/C @ CPU/VGA/NB

~40min Dual Prime Blend..:up:

Still Testing..:D:D:D

http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=85533th5.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3666/85533th5.th.jpg

Impressive, really good work :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bito

Something to get us back on topic Gents.....First try at 4.3Ghz :

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...96504_3ghz.jpg

Very nice work, looks like you're on your way to stability there :up:
02-14-2009, 09:22 AM
dawdaw

Hello guys i've got an answer from the Asus french tech dept and i think i've found someone kind to deal with, my request was about pull-ins, vnb-vtt bug and some of the points listed in the thread of E.V.O, now that person is asking me to type my request in french and explain some stuff so briefly what do u wanna have in the "upcoming BIOS"?
02-14-2009, 09:53 AM
CryptiK
I also have spoken to Asus Taiwan, and the person I spoke with had no idea what pull-ins even were, so you are making good progress.

Ok, what we need is:
- Working phase pull-ins
- Correct vNB/Vtt problem (if possible this may be a hardware level problem)
- tREF setting - for better control over memory
- DRAM Clock & Data drive strength settings - for better control over memory
- CPU, NB and DRAM clock skew in 25ps increments (50ps if 25ps is too fine/difficult for them, but 100ps is way too coarse)
That's just to start with I could suggest a lot more options but I doubt they'd include them.
02-14-2009, 10:02 AM
radaja

cryptik,always start high(more things to fix)that way after they haggle it down,you get a little more than you were expecting.hopefully.so lets get everything(all problems)in there.
02-14-2009, 10:05 AM
dawdaw

Thank you CryptiK, I will try to do my best to convince that person, hope this works in the end, and if they don't care, i'm free to harass them with my requests till i become either the greatest shareholder of ASUS or the worst spammer :D
02-14-2009, 10:10 AM
CryptiK

@ radaja - Yeah I agree with that, just trying to find the line between them saying "ok well do a few of those" and "they're crazy they don't need all that we wont do anything". I'm also expecting other guys to make some suggestions so I don't want to take up the whole list with only my suggestions.

I'll see what ideas other people suggest and go from there.

@dawdaw - thanks for doing this any contact with them is a positive step forward. Give it a day or so and check back to give other guys a chance to make suggestions.

Before you send the list to your contact, please PM me the list you have at that time and I may add some more to it.
02-14-2009, 01:16 PM
e.v.o

Quote:

Originally Posted by humeyboy

If they can do Software SLI on other Chipsets I see no reason they cannot do it on P45.

I think you really don't know how this "Software SLI" works.
X58 != P45 and this also belongs on a hardware basis, because the cards "can talk over PCIe BUS" which the P45 doesn't support that way.
02-14-2009, 06:53 PM
529th

So I've managed to reach 480fsb with some minor stability testing like Small & Large FFT's each 20 min and here are my settings:

400 FSB strap
1.36875 vcore
1.60600 PLL
1.36500 FSB termination
1.51075 NB

the rest like GTL etc have not been fooled with. testing IBT now, will post results (only 5 passes)

Q9650
MIIF 1901

EDIT: Failed OCCT 46 min into it
02-15-2009, 03:39 AM
GeorgeVasil

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

I think you really don't know how this "Software SLI" works.
X58 != P45 and this also belongs on a hardware basis, because the cards "can talk over PCIe BUS" which the P45 doesn't support that way.

SLI Works on Intel Chipsets (with Nvidia 6-7 Series) with modded Drivers.

Who tells me that nvidia will not release some nice stuff, in order to make SLI work with the latest series..(8-9-GTX2XX)..on Intel Chipsets.
02-15-2009, 05:32 AM
Grnfinger
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK

I also have spoken to Asus Taiwan, and the person I spoke with had no idea what pull-ins even were, so you are making good progress.

Ok, what we need is:

Working phase pull-ins
Correct vNB/Vtt problem (if possible this may be a hardware level problem)

tREF setting - for better control over memory
DRAM Clock & Data drive strength settings - for better control over memory
CPU, NB and DRAM clock skew in 25ps increments (50ps if 25ps is too fine/difficult for them, but 100ps is way too coarse)

That's just to start with I could suggest a lot more options but I doubt they'd include them.
I salute your efforts, I gave up long ago with Asus, you might as well talk to a wall.
I doubt you'll get the tref adjustment, speaking to ket might be a better option
I'd just be happy with the pull ins working....

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