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11-25-2007, 07:03 AM
Budious

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonny_ftm

Try this beta
http://www.ocbase.com/download.php?fileext=beta
It corrected all memory allocation issues, the stress algorithm is the final also I think for now

That was link for 1.2.0.b06 with slider.
11-25-2007, 08:07 AM
MoogyMonster

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZilverPhish

It´s bios related as said check with coretemp. if your cores are in the 50s or below there is now chance in hell that your CPU is idling in 60 c. Bios Power "diagnostic" and PC probe are not accurate with some Bios versions.

Actually, I'm using SpeedFan, which AFAIK is pretty accurate.

Also, CoreTemp doesn't work on Vista x64... (at least it doesn't list the OS)
11-25-2007, 08:16 AM
MoogyMonster

Yah verified - Coretemp does not work in Vista x64. You'd think after all this time the author would have fixed it...

The issue is driver signing - I don't know why the author just doesn't get the driver signed. Sheesh.

Anyway, SpeedFan seems to be very reliable and accurate. Right now my 3060 is idling at 27C @ 2.4GHz (native) with an ambient temperature of 72.5F.
11-25-2007, 08:31 AM
WFO

Quote:

Originally Posted by aghory

The strange thing is that with a pair it works with memory in single-channel, in blue and white slots but when I stick it in dual-channel it is stuck and won't boot at "checking dram" or something similar. Does it mean the board is defective or it's a memory issue?(the other pair is stuck from the beginning, wouldn't ever boot)

Many of the original bios releases were to fix memory compatibility issues. Have you flashed to 802 or 901 with only one stick?
11-25-2007, 08:36 AM
ShawnTRD

Whats the Difference??

DRAM Freq.

and

FSB Strap to North Bridge

"The FSB Strap to North Bridge option allows you access to memory ratios tied to specific FSB settings,"

Also whats does PCIE Frequency do for performance and stability?
11-25-2007, 09:10 AM
iTravis

Still nobody answer my question. :( What's the most stable BIOS version by far and why there is a big jump in CPU temp when I moved from 602 to 802 or 901?
11-25-2007, 09:24 AM
DeViTTo

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTravis

Still nobody answer my question. :( What's the most stable BIOS version by far and why there is a big jump in CPU temp when I moved from 602 to 802 or 901?

The Jump reflects that the bios was changed to give a more accurate temp figure at the core of the cpu, changed in bios 701. I use 602 but all are not too bad, get lesser scores everest memory with later bios's so have stuck with 602. There someone has answered your post happy lol.:)
11-25-2007, 09:29 AM
S1mon-

Quote:

Originally Posted by pushook

thx, ok i testet with these settings:

Vcore=1.45 raised up to 1.52vcore step by step

raising vcore on my system ends in early reboots

whats with CPU PLL in the bios?

FSBT=1.50
NB=1.50
SB2=1.55
SB=1.10
DRAM=2.2

I would try setting the NB to 1,55V then 1,6V if it doesn't work...
11-25-2007, 09:46 AM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeViTTo

The Jump reflects that the bios was changed to give a more accurate temp figure at the core of the cpu, changed in bios 701. I use 602 but all are not too bad, get lesser scores everest memory with later bios's so have stuck with 602. There someone has answered your post happy lol.:)

Thank you, I appreciate that. :D I actually downgraded from 802 to 602 and the temp went back to normal. ) According to ur sig, you have urs running at 3.6 with 602 and that's what I'm aiming for right now. What yours idle and full load temp like? Do you think it's a good idea to stick with 602 and what BIOS version gives you more accurate temp?
11-25-2007, 09:57 AM
Renegade5399

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoogyMonster

Yah verified - Coretemp does not work in Vista x64. You'd think after all this time the author would have fixed it...

The issue is driver signing - I don't know why the author just doesn't get the driver signed. Sheesh.

Anyway, SpeedFan seems to be very reliable and accurate. Right now my 3060 is idling at 27C @ 2.4GHz (native) with an ambient temperature of 72.5F.

There's a workaround copy out there that does work. I'm in Vista 64 and run coretemp. Google it.
11-25-2007, 10:08 AM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeViTTo

The Jump reflects that the bios was changed to give a more accurate temp figure at the core of the cpu, changed in bios 701. I use 602 but all are not too bad, get lesser scores everest memory with later bios's so have stuck with 602. There someone has answered your post happy lol.:)

Oh I forgot to mention this, after changing to 602, my CPU temp looks normal but the NB, SB, DRAM voltages are ridiculously high for some reasons. Do you have the same problem?
11-25-2007, 10:10 AM
ElEctric_EyE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budious

That was link for 1.2.0.b06 with slider.

Thank You :toast:
11-25-2007, 10:10 AM
ZilverPhish

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoogyMonster

Yah verified - Coretemp does not work in Vista x64. You'd think after all this time the author would have fixed it...

The issue is driver signing - I don't know why the author just doesn't get the driver signed. Sheesh.

Anyway, SpeedFan seems to be very reliable and accurate. Right now my 3060 is idling at 27C @ 2.4GHz (native) with an ambient temperature of 72.5F.

http://www.overclock.net/attachments...4-vistax64.zip
11-25-2007, 11:01 AM
MoogyMonster

Well,I installed the CoreTemp "fix" for Vista, and it gave me the same #'s as Speedfan.

So my idle @ 2.4GHz on my 3060 is 28-30C. The idle @ 3.6GHz was 54-56C. What's happening here? Why is my idle temp for the 3.6GHz so high? It was ~42C with my 680i. If I were to run my 3060 at the 54-56C idle I'd be hitting 70C+ under load, which AFAIK is a very bad thing.

Here's my voltage settings:
CPU 1.5
FSB 1.5
PLL 1.6
NB 1.49
SB 1.10

Any ideas?

Loadline Enabled
11-25-2007, 11:12 AM
MoogyMonster

Wow. This makes NO sense. I just lowered my CPU voltage to 1.48, and the PLL to 1.5, and it didn't change the temp at all...

I'm running BIOS 901. Is it possible the BIOS temps are off by 10-15C?
11-25-2007, 11:28 AM
ninogui

cmon people.. no comments or help.?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninogui

Hi there people, hope you are all fine..

Im pretty much new to maximus formula SE and Q600G0 OC. So let me ask for your advices on a few things.
My specs are as in the signature. The zalman has the fan mate installed, presently working on the low fan setting (a really silent system!), higher speed saves me 3 / 4 ºC but I wish to keep it like this, low fan setting until I get a stable/top air oc before going a step up.
Bios 0901 cpu settings all disabled as well as legacy usb and spread spectrum.
Remaining main bios settings are as follows. I started from q6800 level up and then lowered the cpu volt until I had a stable system running prime blend.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w.../IMG_10821.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w.../IMG_10851.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w.../IMG_10841.jpg

The screenie:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...overclock3.jpg

I know I haven’t the best G0 batch around (vid 1,2875) neither the memos, theyre corsair twin2x2048 pc4dhx ver 2.1 (promo chips) are on factory recommended settings, 800 X 12,4,4,4, but on volt 2.0, although factory is stated 2.1v.
Here my questions:
- Where can I go from here to be able to reach 3,4 stable.?
(fsb, nb, straps, etc etc)

- What can I do do up these not so bright memories.?

- Have a gigabyte 8800 ultra which is pretty much a standard batch on stock clocks (core 612, shadercl 1512, mem 1080), whats your recommendations for OC´ing these stock values without a mod to the factory cooler.?

Thks a lot in advance.!

cmon people.. no comments or help.?

this should be pretty much newbie stuff for u .
11-25-2007, 12:18 PM
CERO

When u set xxx volts for the RAM, u will read like 0.1 higher @ Asus probe and Asus Suit even higher, but did any1 of u did some DIMMreadings? If so by how much does it actually overvolts according to what is set @ bios?
11-25-2007, 12:24 PM
T2k

Finally had time to put my WC on... and I'm pissed: board is bending but it's still overheating (~90C) in idle if I give it ~1.5V... obviously the Storm somehow doesn't work.... what should be the normal idle temperature at stock speed?
I got some ridiculous, 50+ Celsius with water... :(
11-25-2007, 12:43 PM
thelawns

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talonman

I thought I would try some out too. I just received (1) HR-09U L84 x W17 x H48mm, and (1) HR-09S L84 x W32.3 x H48mm from FrozenCPU. Does anybody know it these will have any mounting issues on the SE?

I will report back, on how they fit on the mobo.

I think you'll find they won't fit mate. They are the Type 1 versions and the same as the ones I had. Its definately the Type 2 versions you need but as I have already said I can't get them in the UK. I have since refitted the original Asus mosfet cooler and its running cooler than it was before anyway! I can only assume this is because the rest of the board is better cooled and the mosfets aren't linked up to the NB via the heatpipe...
11-25-2007, 12:54 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninogui

cmon people.. no comments or help.?

this should be pretty much newbie stuff for u .

This is my settings for 3.4GHz OCCT,Everest and Prime95 stable, maybe it will give you some insight

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
11-25-2007, 12:55 PM
T2k

Just updated BIOS from 701 to 901 hoping it will help if it's a temp reading error but no luck - it seems there's no workaround, CPU got too much compound, I have to remove the Storm and clean it... should've checked it before I have mounted... :brick: :brick: :brick:
11-25-2007, 01:41 PM
ninogui

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

This is my settings for 3.4GHz OCCT,Everest and Prime95 stable, maybe it will give you some insight

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

OK man... it will help so i can step up slowly.. but anyway you have all watercooled.. lolol and pc8500 mems.

maybe someone out there with a similar to mine spec.?

anyway thks for the reply!

greets
11-25-2007, 02:03 PM
icon57

i have an issue i need help with

i have this mobo with the shipping bios...401
silverstone 1000w psu, evga 8800gtx, 2x 2 gb g.skill, q6600 go, all this, and i am overclocked 400 x 9 .... 3.6

and i am getting 3200 on 3dmark 06....wtf????
this was both oc'ed and at stock settings....all the newest drivers....i dont understand it....
cod4 plays like crap, with alot of lag....what gives?
my monitor is a dell 3007
any ideas why my score is so low?
the rig in my sig blows this score away....12,000 or something up there

please help me figure this out, i am stumped!!~!
TIA
11-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Darkstormz

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2k

Finally had time to put my WC on... and I'm pissed: board is bending but it's still overheating (~90C) in idle if I give it ~1.5V... obviously the Storm somehow doesn't work.... what should be the normal idle temperature at stock speed?
I got some ridiculous, 50+ Celsius with water... :(

I had some trouble with my WC. The trouble was that the capacitators north of the CPU socket. I had to push them a little upwards to fit my cpublock. Maybe its worth a try ?

EDIT: -bend +push
11-25-2007, 02:15 PM
Nuckin_Futs

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonny_ftm

Yep, hence why it's better to test many programs for benching. I'll try to give you some situations showing that necessity, and limitations of every program

OCCT in RAM mode proved to be the more stressing and revealing errors on NB-RAM combo. Do remember, that even an error code 4 (CPU) can be due to a NB or RAM error (vNB, vDDR, RAM timings, STRAP...). If the NB and RAM return erronous values to the CPU, than OCCT and any other program will have a round off error check and read it as a CPU error, so be careful interpreting the results... (Sine I changed my RAM to Hyperx 9600 and used a 4:5 multiplier to get 974MHz on them, I need 1.55v on my NB instead of 1.45 for 1:1, otherwise OCCT in RAM mode will return me an error code 4). The more you OC your RAM, the more you need to volt your NB too, even if the FSB is unchanged

Also, OCCT in CPU mode should be as effective as Prime95 small FFT in testing CPU stability. On the other side, to check cooling limits of the CPU, small FFT is better as it generates more heat. Do remember, that no program will generate as much heat as small FFT (if we exclude the crazy intel TAT).

Finally, a F@H for some hours should be a necessary check, as it is a real program that can much stress the CPU-NB-RAM all together.

As a Prime95 Blend test uses more RAM than OCCT, it can reveal more hardware defects in RAM than OCCT, like Memtest would do. Also, Blend test will heat the CPU more than OCCT in RAM mode, thus unveiling an unsufficient CPU cooling. But definetely, OCCT in RAM mode, will stress your RAM an NB much much more than Prime Blend.

Hope my explanations show you why you need many programs to test your OC stability.

The final test, will be every day use to see if you have reboots, BSOD or random strange program or memory access violation errors

What is the latest of OCCT and best for use in dual CPU and core 2 as of today?

Links???

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