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Hmm it does say in specifications
K8N Neo2 Platinum Not Compatible (caps mechanically obstruct pipe.)
So How did you get it to fit? Im going to buy a heatsink and will get the zp-120 if it really does fit. you sure you didnt bend any caps to get it in there?
I'm new, but I like to say reading/searching through this post has been more then helpful
I'm now running my Venice DH-E3 3000+ at 250 FSB so far so good :)
Welcome to the thread that refuses to die TenzoR :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
MSI K8N Neo2 will rule at least 2 years for me :P...ATI R5xx AGP i'm coming :PP
aiit folks. since my machine will refuse to give me stability (quickly first tested by tryin to do a super pi run) at 250 x 2.5-3-3-10 with any voltage (2.6v was the the top candidate) i decided to see what i could do since im forced to be running 2.5-4-4
so why not bump up? did a few small bumps not changin any voltages or any setting for that matter besides the htt (and the htt multi to 3x of course).
so its at home priming on 260x10 [1.45 + 8.3%] / 2.5-4-4-10 [2.6v]. i started the prime after makin sure superpi would run and memtest would pass test 5 and 7 a couple times each. so :banana::banana::banana::banana:, since everything is the same as it was at 250, i might as well get some more speed outa my "lax" timings eh? lets see how it goes.
though i still would love to know why i cant 2.5-3-3 at 250 tho. that sucks... and why it would fail memtest (1 or 2 errors) on anything above 2.6v with te number of errors increasing as the voltage rose.
peach,
the only issue with that is the immense heat coming off the video card isn't going to help you cool your cpu at all.... its gunna keep those heat pipes heated up and not allow them to cool properly.
im loving my Ultra-D fellas.. PCI-E flavor not AGP.
ram and cpu really act differently on that board compared to the NEO2.
so sideeffect you were wrong im not here screaming about how crappy it is lol.
im just screaming about the total crap E6 venice i got after my E3 died.
im basically working on another chip
the major problem i have is using my promise ata-100 card with these mobo but then i've notice that's has been a major problem for a while, so I'm just going to get some nice SATA drives instead :) way to make me upgrade MSI
other than that the only nit pick I have with this board is the crappy location of the cmos jumper location which I'm going to take someone's sugegstion and make a switch for it
I hope i can hit 300fsb without much problem but i'm fairly happy with 250FSB
same thing here... I couldnt get the makers of Clockgen to email me back either, so i now use a program called gcpuid. Google it and try it out. Works good here, has FID/VID options etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by krjalone
i pretty love this board :P ..is just unique..I wanted the finest one K8n diamond but already i spent 2 normal salaries in my country for board,proc and another Kingmax module....
When overclocking you lower the memory clock to 333mhz or you leave 400mhz..Because here my Kingmax is only Pc3200.Only if i lower the clock to 333mhz i get 260mhz fsb..In fact the memory is working at 218mhz or something like this..Anyway they are much cheaper than Corsairs..
Hellll!
the problem is drivibg me mad! What kinda mobo is this?! First of all I can't go more than 2600 (260x10) even 261!
I get a BSOD.
Second of all I can't get my USB joypad working on this mobo!
What should I do? Guys here say that my CPU can go 2.6 or 2.8 on air!
I think I have a serious problem with this.
PLZ help me.
thx in advance.
And I know that there is no problem with my memories.
I think I'm making a mistake in somewhere. Coz everyone like this mobo.
Does the compatibility issue still exist in the newer bios'es saying not to run memory in slots 3 & 4?? If they don't exist anymore, I will flip the xp120 around so that the pipes are facing upwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Mehran - Your cpu will overclock as much it overclocks. The guys that are saying it will do more dont have your cpu they have another one. Even the same stepping cpus wont perform the same.
Its all about luck at the end of the day.
how can i get a 1.9v on vcore?
a question, is the 1.b better bios than 1.a4b for UTT oc?
With the 1.36b BIOS (it has a working 18% over volt) and CoreCenter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Losphoron
See the first post in the thread.
ya but 1.36b is pretty old :S..Anybody thinking to add the missing options in 1.b firmware (like the Vcore voltage 18%)
i can boot at 2420mhz from 1810mhz and the windows loads fine but the games are pretty unstable..What can i do?
They have been trying to add the 18% I believe but with no success yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Losphoron
We need to know your settings before we can give any real suggestions, list them or take pictures of the corecenter and ram pages in your BIOS.
Need to know voltages and timings and what not.
My first guess though is, lower ur HT multi? put ur ram on a divider?
And have you tried prime at all? Is windows stable and just games crash? Or is everything unstable?
D3kMatrix
man could you post a screen of your a64tweaker settings 0.6 for that ram, im having really hard time getting them stable
Bios 1.B oficial,NV/ati oc disabled, C'n'Q disabled, fw enabled (i read that are problems with 9600 chipsets with it disabled),the rest disabled...
DDR setted at 166 instead 200..When it boot up it shows DDR 333 Dual Channel and another thing the slots for dual channel are 3 and 4..I tried 1 and 2 in the past and it seems there is no difference bettween them..Anyway in the MSI Memory compatibility list they give them the ok in the 3 and 4 slots..I don't know why but now i have them in 3 and 4..
Vcore: +10%
fsb: 260
Htt: 3x (with 4x is not working at 260mhz)
Memory voltage: default
vga: 1.60v (with 1.5v the games freeze with 260mhz setted fsb)
Multiplier: 9x
timings: 2.5,3,3,7 2T (with 1t i am not sure is stable and the performance increase is very very low)..
Temperature is not a problem because my cooler is pretty good (Arctic Cooling 64 ultra TCL)..In idle 34 degree celsius and in full load 42 degrees..This is without the second big on the back of the case that bring out the air from inside..That is pretty noisy but very eficient..With that i get in idle about 27 degrees and in full load about 36 degree..
Thanks..
I don't think it’s possible to run a Neo2 with G.Skill TCCD and a Venice at the same time in spec 1:1 for most people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millyons
I have been trying for months, I tried 2 different sets of G.Skill LE's and neither set will run in spec 1:1. My first set was 431 TCCD and maxed at about 269HTT 1:1 2.5-3-3-7. And now my 2nd set maxs at about 274HTT 1:1 2.5-3-3-7. 1 HTT under spec :P
I have tried almost every single BIOS and every setting/voltage possible.
Currently running 1.B Standard by SE
I have been running them on the 166MHz divider 280x10 for now. But just last night I started testing the 183MHz divider a little more and so far so good.
These are my settings, the Trc and Trfc are a little loser then normal just to test the 183MHz divider. I normally run them at 11/14.
(Also primed for 10 Hours over night at the same settings, but didn’t take a screen shot before I went to work)
http://shared.sploitz.com/system/ven...424v-2.85v.jpg
At first I couldn't get the 183MHz divider to run stable so I tried to raise my HTT and lower my CPU mutli while running the 166MHz divider to give the ram CPU and ram clock as the 183MHz divider. It ran 100% stable but would not cold post at the 312HTT. So that was out of the question so I went back to trying to get the 183MHz divider stable.
It seems on the 166MHz and 1:1 my ram runs better at 2.65v. But when running the 183MHz divider it needs 2.85v.
Heres a shot of running 312x9 w/ 166MHz divider. (260MHz ram clock) -- Stable but no Cold Post =(
http://shared.sploitz.com/system/ven...424v-2.85v.jpg
Dual Channel will work in both slots 1&2 and 3&4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Losphoron
Most people actually have better results in slots 1&2, including me.
Most of your settings look ok, actually a lot loser then they should have to be to run the speeds you are.
And instead of running you vcore 1.40v with 10% overvolt try 1.45v and 8.3% overvolt. It will give you the same vcore in the end but some people report more stability while using the normal vcore setting to boost the vcore instead of the overvolt settings.
The only other thing I could see causing a problem is you RAM voltage. Disable auto and test all vcores from 2.65 to 2.85 in memtest to see which is most stable. Start in memtest with a setting you know is unstable so you can see if the voltage makes any difference. Example, 270x9.
Or even try running the 133MHz divider to totally take your ram out of the question. I'm not sure exactly what ram you have so I don't know what it could be capable of.
Also when you say games are unstable, when they crash, do you just get booted back to windows? Random reboot? Artifacts? BSOD? Any Errors?
Your CPU could also just be at its limit, when did you buy the chip? Do you know the stepping? The newer Venice's don't seem to be overclocking that great anymore.
Cd1986 is also stuck at around 270 ish with his TCCD. I think people are very lucky if they get a board that goes over 260 1:1 with any ram.
At the moment im trying to get my board more stable. I can run memtest all day with 255 mhz ram speed at 2.5-2-3-8 but it crashes in windows. Im pretty certain Its not the ram causing crashes. Seems my cpu hits a point at around 2770mhz where it wont go any higher 1:1 and i have to drop the ram frequency to get any more cpu clocks.
Im not sure if its motherboard related or memory controller/cpu related. The CPU will do 3ghz with 228 mhz memory speed on vapochill game stable but not prime stable. I have decided to not use the vapochill though as it seems kind of not worth the hassle for such a small increase. Getting some better air cooling and will try my best to hit 2.8 ghz 255 x 11. I'll be happy with that.
Still love my motherboard though. :slap:
First up, one thing i noticed about ram slots that it also depends on the ram not just the mobo. I got 2x512 G.Skill 4400LE (TCCD) best in slots 1 and 2, 2x512 Kingston KHX3200 (OLD BH-5) also in slots 1 n 2, but i got 2 sets of 2x512 OCZ Gold (New BH-5) that are better in slots 3 and 4, so its just trail and error, noone can say what slots work better on other ppls setups.
About my G.Skill............ya i had hard time playing with them till my mobo and/or CPU died......no way that they do win stable at stock 275 2.5-3-3-6 (or 7) or 2.5-4-4-7 but memtest passes even at 285 at stock timmings. Most stable win seems somwhere in 260 ish. Same sticks had problems running on the DFI nf4 at 2.5-3-3-6 or 2.5-4-4-7 in the 260mhz to 280mhz range, but with same settings work 24/7 gaming stable at 300mhz ??? fun :)
Well I've seen that they could at least achieve 2700. I can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
And what about my USB problem with this board?
I don't know what to do? few weeks ago I could get it working at 2700 but now I can't. what happened?
@sideeffect
is there anyway you can mod the bios with different data and drive strenghts like they are on the DFIs.....i know there is drive strength in the bios but only weak/normal can it be modded to have different levels