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so basically, i'll try the 3-3 again tonght and see how it goes, but somewhere along the line, something wasnt workin and i guess i wont be sure what it was ever again, but i dont want it to happen again. whether it was 3-3 timing, the 2.6v (the only setting to not produce test #5 errors at 250 htt), the 81 mhz agp, or a faulty mem controller. that we wont know for a while.

anyhoo all i know for sure is, 2.65, 2.7, etc all the way up to baord max of 2.85 is an error producer at 250 htt. i wont say more. i guess like i said ima tighten to 2.5-3-3-10 tonight and see how it goes. :S

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Originally Posted by el rolio

so basically, i'll try the 3-3 again tonght and see how it goes, but somewhere along the line, something wasnt workin and i guess i wont be sure what it was ever again, but i dont want it to happen again. whether it was 3-3 timing, the 2.6v (the only setting to not produce test #5 errors at 250 htt), the 81 mhz agp, or a faulty mem controller. that we wont know for a while.

anyhoo all i know for sure is, 2.65, 2.7, etc all the way up to baord max of 2.85 is an error producer at 250 htt. i wont say more. i guess like i said ima tighten to 2.5-3-3-10 tonight and see how it goes. :S

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You can try lock at 67 2.5-3-3-8 heres an old pic prime stable at 2.5. I lost my pic of 289x9. This is with gsillTCCD/winnie and dont give it more than 2.65 volts. :) I eventually got it to 289x9 all 1.1. Using the 180 divider i gained little and 166 was a no go.

Well its not that the memory controller is faulty. They are only rated at 200 HTT anything above that is just a bonus for us. When the memory controller reaches its limits ussually the cpu speed will die off. So you have to run at a slower cpu speed to keep a higher HTT.

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and my firewire just stopped working had to buy a addon maybe i need to rma this sucker


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Originally Posted by sinister1st

You can try lock at 67 2.5-3-3-8 heres an old pic prime stable at 2.5. I lost my pic of 289x9. This is with gsillTCCD/winnie and dont give it more than 2.65 volts. :) I eventually got it to 289x9 all 1.1. Using the 180 divider i gained little and 166 was a no go.

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ha, see this seems similar. ok since i cant take SS :( the best i could do is a validation. as it is now
cpu-z validation

and seeing the the "headroom" i got on voltages, that makes me feel better. liek i said: 1.55 (.45) + 8.3% == the same 1.552 - 1.568 you showed in your ss.

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

is this 260 HTT with 260 mhz ram speed or 260 HTT with the ram on a divider?

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all in sync no divider =)

This ballistix isnt the best though, with these 2x1gbi can only get 3-3-10 @ cas 3 with 2t timings and no 'agressive timing' in bios... if only there was a way i could take them back and get some tracer stuff. :/

Also, does 4500/4500 in sandra sound off to you? Probably not but it's depressing. :rolleyes:

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Ok i need some diagnosis here.. according to clockgen the AGP/PCI is locked.. but whenever i get up above 260 fsb 1:1 i still seem to get artifacts in 3D apps ONLY. Some objects seem to flicker and i get all sorts of artifacts. im gonna try now with a divider to see if it makes any difference ?? I'm highly surprised that noone else has had this problem before as far as i know. :/

guys..I'm pulling out my hair here..I just replaced my No-name memory with a Kingmax DDR400 512mb ram and bought another one to put them in dual channel..The No-name bank have over 13000 errors in Goldmemory and nothing found in Memtest.The new kingmax brought after replacing have errors in Memtest no 8 (modulo 20, zerp/ones) and of course in goldmemory 1000+.I bought them from a non-oficial (the guy don't pay taxes to the govournament and state so basically they are 20% cheaper than the market price) and now i have all my luck..The other bank brought from a shop from my city (new in case) is perfect..I think they take the banks that came back to the service because they are broken and he sell them like this..Not many ppl (at least in my country) test the memory..This are the first times when i use goldmemory/memtest.All this tests was done without oc..just with default speeds.I recommend using Goldmemory is more extensive and will report you even compatibility..If goldmemory tests will pass i am 200% sure that memtests will pass also..My :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing experience...and my hair is all over the keyboard and monitor now ...I'm :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing sick about my country..


anyway i got 5240mb/s in Sisoft Memory benchmark now but only 3 fps in q3..I know is normal but is just me.. :(

Holy crap, looks like you have lots of trouble shooting to do, good luck. :/

I managed to find the cause of my problem.. i only got the artifacts when using the 10x multi.. someone should look into this as i have a feeling that it could be a BIOS issue.. anyway, i'm currently running along @ 9 x 290 1:1 (2600) with no problems.. im gonna try and go higher hehe.

[edit] thanks for the help along the way sideeffect ;)

wow ok, so im runnin tests now at 2.55v on the memory, 250mhz with 2.5-3-3-10.... will see how it gets when i get home.

this tccd is a crzy topsy turvy world!!!!!1

Ridczak, were you able to boot @ 5x250? I ask because with a 4x multi, the memory isn't running 1:1 if set to it, it's running on a 5x multi instead of the 4x multi the HTT is running at, so the memory is @ 200mhz. This is just something that happens. so check to see if you can run 5x250, and that will tell you if the memory is stable at the speed.

What would be the best bios for OCing my FX53? I have Corsair XMS TCCD and a 6200.

Peach... very equilibrate system :P fx53 with 6200 ...nice one.

Could someone answers the following question : What is the best bios for both X2 support and good overclocking ?

Thx, it is appreciated :)

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Peach... very equilibrate system :P fx53 with 6200 ...nice one.

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I know, waiting for R520 :)

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Originally Posted by wussupnext

Could someone answers the following question : What is the best bios for both X2 support and good overclocking ?

Thx, it is appreciated :)

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From what i have heard the 1.9 is best for x2 4400+ and the 1.B is best for the other x2 processors. Or it could be that certain cpus are better on each. I would try the 1.B first and if you have problems with it try the 1.9.

sideeffect, are your forums messed up? I went there and there isnt any posts.

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Originally Posted by Peach

sideeffect, are your forums messed up? I went there and there isnt any posts.

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Ditto, seems to be fixed now though.

I think i'll give the 1.b sideeffect a try, anything is better than the 1.b MSI bios im running now, I can't even prime stable 210HTT 1:1 with my Corsair TCCD :(

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Originally Posted by Peach

I think i'll give the 1.b sideeffect a try, anything is better than the 1.b MSI bios im running now, I can't even prime stable 210HTT 1:1 with my Corsair TCCD :(

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Your not trying to OC the TCCD past 210 1:1 at 2-2-2-5 are you?
Cuz that won't happen :P They only scale to high HTT at something like 2.5-3-3-7.

That or you didn't lower your HT multi from 5x.

I had my TCCD at 2.5-3-3-6 and my HT Multi at 2x, i'm gonna experiment some more because I just flashed to sideeffects 1.b bios

EDIT: My goal is to hit 2.7ghz, I dropped my HT Multi to 2x and set my RAM to 2.5-3-3-6 2.80v. Loaded up clockgen and dropped multiplier to x9 and set VID to 1.550v. I managed to hit 280HTT 1:1! But this only yields 2520mhz. I set my FID to x10 and I could barely break stock! :slap: What am I doing wrong?!?

HTT Multi of 3 is better than 2 imo. Certain cpu multis wont work very well. I think 10 x multi isnt very good in 1.B. Use Clockgen and set a 9.5 multi see what happens.

I have a minor problem. I changed my winchester +3500
to x2 +3800 cpu. I am using bios 1.b mod and its working ok.
But clockgen is not working anymore. I can only change fsb/htt frequency.
The cpu vid and multiplier control is greyed out. What is the problem?

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Originally Posted by DragonOrta

Ridczak, were you able to boot @ 5x250? I ask because with a 4x multi, the memory isn't running 1:1 if set to it, it's running on a 5x multi instead of the 4x multi the HTT is running at, so the memory is @ 200mhz. This is just something that happens. so check to see if you can run 5x250, and that will tell you if the memory is stable at the speed.

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Thanx, I did't know that. Memtest & cpu-z always showed 250MHz on RAM even with 4x multi. 6x didn't work as I remember, going to try 5x today.

Yesterday I swapped OCZ with 2x512 MDT PC3200 cl2,5 and similar situation as witch OCZ (Vdimm mod removed). However, I will have to try this 5x multi.

ps. I'm blind :) Didn't notice that 4x multi & /5 div on RAM in the multipliers/mem dividers table.

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Originally Posted by ElAguila

Anyone tried the tccd bios yet? I think I will give that a try this evening. I got my scythe ninja installed and my temps are lower under load than with the xp90c so when I get home this evening I am looking to oc a little differently using the tccd bios. I am going to see how the memory does in slots 3 and 4 versus 1 and 2.

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Hi everyone. This is my first post on this nice forum.
I've been looking everywhere for someone running a ninja heatsink on MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. I'm very interested to hear if it fits without problems since the XP-120 doesn't fit without some bending. Anyone who uses a ninja with a 120mm fan? Any probs with RAM or AGP slot?

I'm a bit worried about the weight, so maybe I'll wait for the SI-120 to arrive to Swedish stores. Any advice on this - is weight a real issue? (The computer will probably not be moved very often, but still I'm a bit worried.)
Seems like the best quiet cooling alternatives are Ninja, XP-120, SI-120 or big typhoon. Any recommendation for cooling dual cores on this mobo?

My XP120 fit into my Neo2 without any bending, the heatpipes are next to the top of the video card. http://i2.cashmoneyuploads.com/img/newpc01585.jpg