Was thinking same re SSD's. Wonder how the onboard raid will handle it, thinking maybe adding a fast raid controller.
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I would love to see some benchies with SSDs on the striker II.
Since ill be keeping this motherboard for a long time, I want to know how fast can the south bridge get.
Not sure how much this will impact the performance of the SSD, but the 570 MCP on this chipset does not support AHCI. I've read mixed comments about this issue where some say it runs slower using the nvidia SATA and some saying the exact opposite; that it runs faster...
There's a JMicron controller bios option that will enable AHCI, but I'm pretty certain it's just running in emulation mode.
AFAIK, that Jmicron is for the eSata port in the back and the ATA port. Nothing to do with the SATA ports.
I didnt know AHCI was not supported? WTF?
I would still like to know how an Intel drive performs in this motherboard.
Good Q I hope someone responds I'd be interested to know as well if you do get one yourself I hope you report back here what you find. Lord knows nvidia sata/raid can use all the help it can get. I'm going to assume, based on you sig, the bios you had before you updated was the 1203. Are you saying you had to make no adjustments what so ever to maintain stable at 4.05 with the 1402?
Ah. Did not know that. Good bit of info there.
Yeah, kinda stinky about nvidia's decision not to include support for AHCI. I think Win 7's native SATA driver can run emulated AHCI, though. I'm still running Vista 64/XP so I'm not positive on this, but I'll find out soon enough since I'm going to install win 7 on the SSD.
Either way, I'm sure an SSD will smoke my velociraptor even without AHCI. Like you, I'm not planning on upgrading my board anytime soon. Once I get it, I'll let ya know the outcome.
Cool sangrak, let us know when you get that SSD up and running!
I discovered that bios 1402 fails to load performance counters for the WmiApRpl service. This is logged in the Event Viewer as 'LoadPerf' if it properly starts. While this hasn't caused any noticeable problem running Vista or XP, the fact that 1402 breaks the service makes the bios suspect. Reverting back to 1301 solves the issue, at any rate.
Thanks for sharing that Sangrak!
Isnt Rampage the name Asus give their top end board? Ie: Rampage II Extreme X58. I thought the P45 was a midrange chipset and they named the ROG P45 the Maximus II Formula. That was in contrast to the top end X48 with DDR3 Rampage Extreme and top end x48 with DDR2 Rampage Formula.
In my opinion Maximus = mid range and Rampage = top end but maybe thats just me.
I do hope this M3F is not another M2F, ie: good looks, high price, average performance.
This thread is still active - nice! I bought my S2E about two years ago, and tried overclocking my QX9650 then, but was bitterly disappointed. Unable to get it stable, even unlinked my PC1600 memory wouldn't run at that speed, and I had file corruption on my hard drives and network. Finally, just when bios 0901 arrived, I decided to give it a rest, and leave things at just over stock speed (9.5x333, nothing fancy). I needed stability, my wife was pregnant again.
Anyway, I thought I might still give it a go again, being restless and my little girl now over a year old. I figure this rig still has some future in it, being totally watercooled. Just two questions before I embark again, I hope someone can answer:
1. I still have the OCZ PC1600 memory (2x2GB). Should I invest in something faster/better first, that will do 1800-2000Mhz FSB maybe? Or should I try it with these modules first?
2. I remember the board having a hole at 1600Mhz FSB, lot's of folks just not getting things stable at that speed. Does that still apply for the latest bioses? (I just loaded 1402, seems fine ftm).
For the record, I have a C0 stepping of the QX9650.
Well, thanx, and I'll post my results.
To be honest, it will all depend on your north bridge. Some seem to act better than others, but as long as you keep it cool you should be fine.
OCZ, i wouldnt say they are the best in this motherboard, but u can still try and see how far they get.
This board is all about trying and trying
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and more trying
I had 4x1 gb sticks of OCZ gold that worked very well on this board, but could never get them over FSB1530. My current Patriot kit has been solid.
im running whats in stats.. what would be highest voltages for this board 24/7??
i just got this and want to overclock more.. not understanding what most of the values mean.. :shrug:
Depends, I suppose. Your cooling will dictate how much voltage you can pump through the board. Ideally, you'll want to keep your NB under 55c, but it's rated for much higher. I've experienced stability issues when my NB temps are much higher than that.
Thanx. I started trying, and the system today reminded me of why I stopped trying in the first place: I regularly had lockups and BSODs, after which some or all of my harddrives were no longer recognized by the system.
Well, it just happened again: after a BSOD my primary drive was no longer recognized, two reboots and a minute later the second drive also magically disappeared from bios POST - as if boith drives were not attached. I've got three drives attached, one with Win 7 x64 (primary), one with Vista x64 and one with XP x32. Both the Win 7 and XP drive are now gone, rebooting or turning the power off doesn't help. I've had this happen with this board before, and most of the time all it took was time: wait. Sometimes an entire day. Then boot up, and they'd be back. Only once did a drive really die on me. RMA'd that with success, but the data on it was lost of course.
I'm hoping these drives didn't die now, but already I'm beginning to think this wasn't such a good idea. Bah. :shakes:
edit: Well, the XP drive is back online, but the primary drive with Win7 (and plenty of important data) is still MIA. Crap. Will see again tomorrow.
I've found that the mild overclock in FSB resulted yet again in a fried circuitboard on the harddrive. I've replaced that board and was able to recover all the data on it, that seems to be fine. Thankfully, because I've had some serious datacorruption with earlier bios versions.
I do wonder though what is causing the circuitboard on the drives to fail when I only up the FSB and mem voltage - and nothing else really. Everything else on AUTO. Any thoughts on that would be welcome.
Safe to say that if I know will again embark on an overclocking experiment with this board, I'll use a redundant drive only to get it stable before plugging in the rest.
Now thats weird.
If your drives dont come up, unplug them and reset the CMOS from the back with the button then plug them back in.
Also what power supply are you using?
Weird it is indeed. I've done that a ton of times, doesn't help. Somehow the circuit on the drive gets damaged, I have no clue why though.
A Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W. Should suffice I think, for a QX9650 with 2x2GB DDR3, three sata HDD's, one DVD drive, one floppy drive, two 8800GTX at stock speeds, some very quiet fans and a water pump.Quote:
Also what power supply are you using?
Well, I'm freaking out here. No overclocking, restored the system - inserted two new drives - and it was running nicely for a day or two. But then... this evening I was installing XP mode in Win7 when it BSODed on me again, just as it was shutting down to restart after a successfull install. After restarting, Win7 wouldn't load so I booted up XP from a different drive and made sure every drive was still there and the data accessible. Just to be safe made a few extra backups. Rebooted again, two drives no longer listed in bios, rebooted again, all drives gone. Disconnected power for a minute, cleared CMOS and rebooted, one drive recognized again, but not the others. Took all the drives out, connected them to a different PC altogether, they all show. Weird, this is really weird.
Now here's my predicament: I don't really want to spend too much money on getting everything working again, but I cannot have the system crashing on me like this. So I see two options:
- replace the mobo with a new S2E and replace the mem (just to be safe) and pray my problems are gone. This way I can keep the QX9650 and my watercooling stuff, all my installs will work and it's not as expensive as buying an entire system. Downside is I can't be sure the problem will be solved (it could return if it's the chipset somehow freaking out with Spinpoints, though others should then have had the same problem, and I haven't found any reference to that);
- buy a new SLI Core i7 mobo and Core i7. Chances of not having the same 'disappearing drives' problem almost 100%, and creates room for upgrades. Downsides here a plenty: more expensive, and the reasonably priced cpu's are hardly worth the performance upgrade (920 doesn't do much better than the 9650), plus I then need new WC blocks for the CPU and mobo as well and will have to reinstall all my OSes.
Well, I appreciate any thoughts anyone has on this, be it cause or sollution.
Ok so I broke down and grabbed some SSD's for my rig, tired of reading how fast windows boots, oh my system is so snappy now, best upgrade ever blah blah.
Decided on 2 of the new Intel X25-M 80GB 34NM Postville drives. I know Intel just released TRIM support for RAID with Intel based chipsets, unfortunately for us Nvidia has no such support in our drivers. I have benchmarked the performance new with no files on them to see how much they degrade before I commit to RAID 0 with no TRIM for the operating system install. Here's the performance compare.
Regular Seagate SATA 3GB 7200 ES 500GB's in RAID 0
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X25 V2 SSD 80GB single drive brand new
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X25 V2 RAID 0 SSD 160GB 64K stripe brand new
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128K stripe
http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/t...SD-128kNew.png
Looks like the Nvidia 790i chipset has weak performance compared to Intel boards....have a look here at post #55