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I have stop for the moment try higher.. the time i fix this little prob of "decreasing score..", in wait i change my PSU ( certainly will go for a Enermax liberty 620W) and i buy some G-skill 3200 UTT BH5, or Team Xtreem PC4000 UTTBH5, TCCD not really the best with the Expert.. but who know.. if the DFI R580 is here before i switch for this mb, ( will do this quick before no more ULI chipset are selling to DFI for this board..) ...:D
Its probably VDDCI causing that..
Yeah, i have rised the speeds for 3D and now i have 765/900 artifact free in AtiTools and 3dmark.
I'll get my new opteron 165 later today. Then i'll go for 14kmarks in 05.
it miss me 500pntws for the 3D05.. you think increase the VDDCI can be the solution..?
Hey guys, got my X1900XT on monday and put it under watercooling, idle 32C, load 38C. So far my best clocks are 766mhz/845mhz with the voltages at 1.575/2.15/2.15/1.5. My best score so far is 13146 in 3dmark05.
Id just like to again bring up the issue of the disparity in mem clocks between the XT and XTX versions of these cards. We have determined that they both have the exact same 1.1ns chips rated at 900mhz. I still have yet to understand why I cannot get the mem to 870mhz+.
When setting the mem clocks with ATi tool strange things happen. Sometimes setting to 840mhz will cause artifacting on the desktop and crash the system, other times I can run 845mhz 100% clean and stable in 3dMark05. None of this adds up. I currently have active cooling on the mem so I dont think its a cooling issue, but im going to spend some time today mounting an extra fan just to be sure.
Ok I received my Sapphire X1900XT yesterday, checked for BJ11 and flashed to the X1900XTX ATI BIOS found at techpowerup. And the card artifacts and hangs in the "LOADING" screen in 3dk05 and ATITool Artifact Scanner. At XTX stock speeds :stick:
Before flashing, I tried to midly (640/750) overclock with ATI Tool, making 2D and 3D profiles, disabling both ATI services, setting voltages up to 1.475, and a bunch of memory voltages (from 1.996 to 2.201). I left VDCCI untouched as I've read it is ok at stock. But as soon as I try to open a 3D app (even the Artifact tester) the computer hangs and the screen is full of artifacts.
Also tried with Overclocker and CCC and the same happens. Seems like my card doesn't like ANY overclock. The same happens when I try to only overclock memory or core separately. I'm using Catalyst 6.3, will try later with 6.2 and OmegaDriver 6.3.
Any ideas? the card has BJ11 and I flashed to XTX without [flashing] problems. As always, the card is incredible 11.690 in 3dk05 at stock from 8400 with the 7800GT but seeing people getting to 720/850 with stock cooler I'm a bit dissapointed :(
//EDIT: Forgot to say Aquamark3 runs fine but hangs when it ends and has to show the score.
//EDIT2: I've done some tries at lunchtime. Raised VGPU up to 1.550 and the core gets to 660, more it artifacts -> crash if I don't cancel the Scan Artifact window really fast. Raised mem up to 2.2/2.136/1.5 the memory gets to 735, more -> hangs directly. Can it be my card is this little OCable? I've got the option to change it for a XTX + price difference in 7 days. So I think I'll play with it the weekend and see what happens.
sapphire 1900xt@xtx this is may score.with w c.volts 1.57-2.1
http://www.trload.com/up/1144472764.jpg
I am sure it is related to memory timings
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Originally Posted by sam3755
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Originally Posted by irev210
so the the next logical question how do you change the ram timings?
i would think a bios flash to XTX would do it, but that doesnt seem to be the case.
stock cooler: 700/860 1.500/2.151/2.119/1.510
I'm having a lot of problems OCing my Sapphire X1900XT. The best so far is 705 (which I can assume is not a bad OC) but the memory won't go over 740. I've tried with low and high volts, but it seems that's the wall. I've checked it's BJ11 so maybe temps are the problem?. Yesterday applied AS5 to the core, and I think I'll buy a VF900.
Anyone thinks that would help me to get the memory higher? I would be happy with 700/800 with ATI Tool.
Aquamark3 runs fine (really smooth :D) but it crashes when shows the score. IIRC I've got the patch long ago so I don't know what causes it to crash. Futuremarks, Oblivion, FEAR, etc runs 100% stable.
mine was like that too for the first day i had it, i dont know if i just hit a sweet spot with mine or what, but i started out only getting around 600/750ish and it would crash. i just let it find max till i hit 20-30mhz up stopped it and saved repeat. this thing is still confusing me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Save here. XTX bios did not help. Ordered a Real XTX now. I hope i kan doe 700+ and 850+ On air with the thing. My old XT had a sweetspot @ 650-775 @ 1.25-1.9v-1.48.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam3755
I needed like + 0.1 on the core to get it @ 675 And mem would not go over 775. If i raise the core speed to 675 there is a chance of artifacting. I must run it @ lower colt + Accellero set to 100%. If i run stock XTX bios. I will get artifacts within 30 min. It just gets to hot. 1.25 helped me to make it. 1.4 is overkill. Speedspot of the core them here was 1.3-1.35v.
I think I'll try with your voltages einCe, but I think I've tried all of them, it's been a testin weekend :D. Never got VDDCI to 1.510, maybe that's the key.
I need 1.550 to get 705 on the core tho, but with AS5 and fan control set properly (IIRC I settled it at >50c 27%, >60c 60%, >70c 70%, >80c 100% which rarely happens). I highly recommend to apply AS5. Before I got up to 93c, now it's strange to get >80c.
And in the mems I've tried from 1.996 up to 2.2XX with bad results. What gets me nuts is the fact that +5mhz on the ram makes the comp to crash, having to reset it. Makes the whole OC process a pita :(
Overall the card is absolutely stunning, and getting +4200 points in 3dk05 with a simple card change is unbelievable. My max with 7800GT 491/1250 was 8400, with X1900XT 705/739 is 12.640 :eek: But the OC way of working is really difficult :D
yeah trying to oc these things is like trying to get an old nintendo to work. you spend a half an hour messing with it only to see it start up the game and freeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Finally got a new block for my XTX so I can mine on water and replace the crumby stock cooler.
790/873 volts: 1.575/2.150/2.102/1.486
3dmark05: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1936690
If you want higher mem freqeuncy it would be best to use the Overclocker tool. It could get close to 900mhz when I used this instead of ATI Tool as it apparently slackens your memory timings.
I think I prefer tighter timings with ATI Tool, but 740 on the mem seems like a bit low. From what I can see everywhere people gets 800+ with stock cooler and ATI Tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesnel
Its probably a crappy ring bus in the chip, = real difference between some of the xts and the xtx's. My xt will only hit about 750 on mem with stock vddci, however with the vddci maxed it hit ~800. For normal use I have vddci ~1.51 and mem at 775. Has anyone definitively found out what the vddci does yet?
Ok I've talked with my reseller and they accept the change for the XTX paying shipping and price difference. So for 55€ more I'll take the Sapphire X1900XTX and see what happens. Once I've dig 500€, what's 55 more? :D:D
Mursaat perhaps you know it now.. but for don't have the AM3 crash at the end of bench.. you need patch it
- replace the dll in data of AM3 with this one..
But AM3 is not really the best bench for show performance of the X1900XTX..
dang... well ive got the clocks up to 766/845 on my X1900XT on wc, happy with that I guess. but i just cant understand why the RAM wont do the same clocks as the XTX. maybe ill never know, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
more info on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by kemist
I seem to be having troble completly removing the the 2d/3d ATI detection services, it comes back everytime i reboot and i really dont feel like messing with it every time i turn the pc on.
I'm Trying to use ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 12
Has anyone elese had this isue or know the fix??
thanks, Joe
Ring bus = mem controller. If the mem controller can't scale, the memory won't scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam3755
Thanks, now I think I'm not sure I have the patch. I never format my Bench partition so I have AM3 maybe since 2 years ago :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lane-k
And yes I know AM3 is not nice with X1900, the bench has a little freeze (0,1 secs) at the start, when the pod climbs and gets to open sea. With the 7800GT at 495/1250 I had no freeze, which is strange :confused:
I have that slight chug as well when you go over the first hill. I have had that on all my ATI cards to be honest.