these cards look very promising, crossfire mode is insane!!
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these cards look very promising, crossfire mode is insane!!
Disappointed at the preliminary performance numbers, but can't complain about the price tag.
We certainly don't need more $500-600 video cards in the market.
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Originally Posted by MAS
All tests with benchmarks you see on 2900XT are pretty much useless since you do not know what driver they are using. There are various problems with the leaked one that I see some are using to post benchmarks.
Not only that but no info on the 8800GTS used & that site is about as reliable as a bucket with holes in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinc
That's the sort of thing you'll find on that blog. Can we not ban the posting of these piece of crap fanboy blogs?Quote:
Congratulation! AMD ATI and all perseverance ATI fans in CHIPHELL and around the globe.
http://www.chiphell.com/attachments/...U82mucxbN6.jpg
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3293
R600XT 745/828, C2D E6600 @ 3.6GHz
http://www.chiphell.com/attachments/...cq13fv8Zhx.jpg
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3451
Look at the post by Kab @ 04/29/2007 03:56 AM
http://forums.amd.com/forum/messagev...VIEWTMP=Linear
I guess there is hope yet, good, cause if the floped now, i don't see Nvidia getting of their a$$es and releasing something new in the fall.
First of all, those are official benchmarks released by ATI. Not that they are worth anything to me or you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathReborn
Second of all, they used 8xAA/16xAF and adaptive AA. ATI's 8x AA implementation is different from nvidias, so Nvidia cards take a larger hit from that alone. ATI always had more efficient AA algorithms, so its no surprise its wins in most benchmarks.
Third point is, its compared to the 8800GTS. 8800GTS is not the 8800GTX so no great achievement there from ATI.
But like Kinc said, too many variables for us to take anyone's word for anything...
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=728&Itemid=1
So fuad gives us hope that this still maybe a g80 killer.....Quote:
R600 has 16 TMU's while G80 has 32
R600 has 16 TMU's while G80 has 32
Written by Fuad Abazovic
Saturday, 28 April 2007 10:08
That is why it stays behind
Here is the one of the key reasons why R600 marchitecture falls behind the G80 GTX version. While Geforce 8800 GTX or G80GTX has 32 Texture Memory Units (TMUs) Radeon HD 2900 XT has 16 only.
TMUs are responsible for getting the textures in your games and more you have the faster you can handle the texture work.
Still, the Radeon HD 2900 XT at 750 MHz core is about 30 percent faster in raw clock speed from Geforce 8800 GTX at 575 MHz and finishes the texture cycle some 30 percent faster then Nvidia.
In spite of that this is not really a fortunate solution as Nvidia has twice as much texture memory units. The only hope is that ATI has more effective TMUs, but this is one big marchitectural disadvantage over the G80 marchitecture.
One more thing, according to beyond3d, the latest release-candidate driver from ATI causes the r600 to do weird and wonderful things like destroy an 8800gtx in performance...
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...39173&page=144
And some linkies:
http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.p...post1334917155
Time to get some sleep now.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1177841274
this is the best hype i've ever seen, so many benchmark scores and ll completely different (one showing a slow card not keeping up with the gts, the other one a tie between GTX and XT and the third a huge lead for ati)
everyone seems to talk about their product, some bashing and some praying but no one rlly nows, this is better than cinema :D
BTW: pcgameshardware (germany) got no info about a launch on may 2nd, maybe they're releasing final drivers for testing on this date, NDA still seems to be lifted on 14th:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?article_id=600354
More details about R600:
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1470/flopsiw6.jpg
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulle...&postcount=351
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9275/21422560ju9.jpg
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulle...&postcount=364
R600 Pipeline Utilisation
http://www.cupidity.f9.co.uk/b3d95.gif
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3679
Nice info!! Bit weird that the R600 only has 16 more physical unified pipelines....Quote:
Originally Posted by end3rkid
the 8800gtx scores were done in 3dmark05, x2900xt scores in 3dmark06.Quote:
Originally Posted by end3rkid
of course it's higher!
Yeah and 3dmark 05 was probably at a lower resolution too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluep3ace
Only 60-80% faster in mosts games than the old 1950XTX.
http://www.directupload.net/images/070429/lhG7bb7V.jpg
http://www.directupload.net/images/070429/4Mv6EmTP.jpg
Maybe this will make for some killer price drops after all :) . I am all for killer price drops despite whoever has the crown.
On a Side note: I HATE BENCHMARK GRAPHS THAT DO NOT START AT 0 !!
Edited note: Those last graphs are for special circumstances only ! Notice they are with HDR and the second one is for stencil shadow, whatever that may be.
Sooo what, you play games at 640x480x16bit color? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula7
I can't wait to see some real benchmarks!!
I don't understand you.......Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Inside joke or something about what I said? I meant how they started the graph with 80% making it seems further stretched out of a difference and also how it is using % and not actual FPS.
My 8800GTS maxes out my westinghouse 27" actually at 1365x768 in all games so far.
Is that the lowest res? I think I play my games at a res lower than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
my point is that Those last graphs are not for special circumstances only, simply because HDR and high detail resolution is going to become massively more popularQuote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula7
What part of "60-80%" warranted an "Only" in the beginning of the sentence ?Quote:
Only 60-80% faster in mosts games than the old 1950XTX.
If ppl keep that attitude up, there will be a lot of jaws dropping on launch day...
Perkam
There are so many examples, recent ones too to dispute that, but that's an entirely different discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Lets hope so:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
keep in mind the 1950xtx is the current flagship, and the 2900xt is only the next-gen 2nd card, and thats why its just barely faster. 1950xtx should be crushed by the 2900xtx.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorgul