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woo hoo! new bios, cant wait! thanks cstkl1
Looks good, lets hope this sets us free in regard to the issue we have been having, its no fun being in bondage to a motherboard.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
That function would lead me to the Button "Order"
Do wonders still exist? :D
Bios 1104
Fix can't enter OS if use over 4GB RAM and Vista 64bit together with 2 pcs of GTX295 VGA card.
Anybody tried with disabled CPU Turbo Power Limit and a I-920, if Turbo-Multi 21 works when Vcore higher than 1,35V?
is beta or final?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
i tried different configs... even if it was in the wrong slots, it would beep tell you that the ram was not correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by funk32
if u ran in a2/b2/c2 no post..
anyways hmm testing the bios the whole day already
the temp limit is not there anymore
but the vcore testing soon
suppose to be final releaseQuote:
Originally Posted by If6was9
guys need more feedback from u guys on the new tdp /tdc limit
somehow i still think theres now a tdc limit
testing more
1104 Final
What exactly is this for an effect?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
tested just now with 4.2ghz HT on on two different procsQuote:
Originally Posted by peebee
one proc can do it at 1.375v set
the other uses 4.2ghz HT OFF at 1.3625v set..
whatever voltage i use doesnt work with HT ON tested up to 1.52v
will test with one more proc tommorow
to see whether is this a one off case.
frust mode
a stupid dumbass in www.lowyat.net doesnt even know crap that the qpi/dram voltage card needs to be cooled for uncore 4000 to be stabled
tested so many times with passive/active cooling and even one point totally dead zone on that spot.
worst still that noobie idiot thinks uncore 4000 means core speed 4000.
btw way u also need to disable C1/TM
this is the rule according to the asus engineer.
Made no difference for me so far, Im needing a lot of vcore just to hit 4.2ghz with ht on.
I no longer have the 920 so cant compare with that unfortunately.
I will test further later when I have more time.
From the various posts I've read it's starting to sound like a PSU or maybe bad motherboard issue. If it's the PSU it's very typical to be inconsistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by PalmeAsus
The only boot prob I had was a failure to startup after a warm boot from Vista64. I could reproduce this problem 100% consistently. More accurately, the system wasn't shutting down properly to begin with (indicated by continuously burning ROG light and BIOS LED after shutdown). My mobo never had a prob from initial power-on.
The above has been resolved in the latest 1104 BIOS.
Word to the wise. Make sure you have written down all of your OC Profiles as bios 1104 wipes them all out. Wish I knew that before hand as I had several set up. :(
yepp, the TDP Limit is gone - for me. :-)
Now i can do 21x210 (4,4GHz) Vcore 1,55 with my i7 920 and Load on all
8 cores. With Bios 1001 and lower the Multi decreases to 20x if i start
Prime95.
Helli
Shamino should give some lessons to Asus, what a "real extreme overclocking and tweaking-fun" bios should be able to ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
:shakes:
Ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
I'll wait for now I think. :)
Thanks for the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
that guy is like hopping companiesQuote:
Originally Posted by peebee
asus
then foxconn
now evga??
kekeke
but one thing is very evident
theres no asus engineer that is into overclocking
if not he would have realized all this issue.
I have exactly the same issue. If I have that option enabled or disabled Im hitting the same wall.
It could be the chip I have but I doubt it.:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
1. You do not need to disable C1/TM to use this feature. I just tested it with a simple 4140MHz OC on the i7 940 (23x180MHz, Turbo on obviously), 1804MHz DRAM 8-9-7-19-1T timing, 3608MHz Uncore, 3960MHz QPI. I left everything on Auto (including LLC on Auto) except for CPU voltage at 1.36250V in BIOS, QPI/DRAM at 1.35000V, DRAM at 1.65681V and the new Turbo Power Limit (or whatever is the exact name) on Enabled. You only need to disable C1/TM if you do not want any low power state transitions (C1) or if you want to run the chip past its built in safety thermal limits of 97C (TM).Quote:
Originally Posted by bustamove44
2. The fact that you cannot run certain chips at say 4.2GHz no matter the voltage is a chip limitation. It has nothing to do with TDP/TDC limits. Some chips just do not clock that high, period. Also, a lot of it depends on your temps. If you can keep the temps below 80C or even just in the low 70Cs you will be able to clock higher without issues in most cases.
On a different note, thanks cstkl1 for pushing this matter, and I guess since nobody else will (:() I will thank myself for actually providing Asus with a detailed test procedure to recreate this problem so that we can actually get a fix for it.
Thanks cstkl1 and thanks me :p: :D
Thanks both of you, I did thank you both for your efforts on more than one occasion up to now.:clap:
Though I have no way of testing your theory right now dejaneh.
The reason Im so convinced the board is my issue is that both the 940 and 920 fall over at exactly the same point on this board, as I said I cant test the 920 with this bios cos Its gone to less demanding user. :D
It could I suppose be a fluke I have two chips falling at the same hurdle...But.. my friend had a 920 from the same tray/batch as mine and clocked it up to 4.6 on an msi eclipse, now if that isnt rubbing salt into the wound I dont know what is.:D
Any way, im gonna try and get hold of another 920, if I can get a proven one then ill know for sure if this board is the problem or not.
I can run a couple of bench apps at 200x21 ht on but even that is flaky, 22 multi on this 940 is a no go period, at least at any speed worth wanting.
auto- forget it, unless i want to run low clocks which completely defeats the object.:shakes:
Therefore, it is appropriate update to the new bios?
:confused:
This didnt fix my cold boot issue when qpi set higher than around 1.48 v =( Im starting to think that my psu is the problem or cpu but i dont know =( im gonna test with some other mems next week .
The wierd thing is that it boots below 1.45-1.47 but it's unstable from coldboot even with standard qpi settning and this problem is pissing me off =/
for qpi voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by PalmeAsus
the stability depends on the ioh/ich pair
for me atleast
What qpi volt and ioh are you using ? but since it's unstable from coldboot with standard settnings i dont think it's the problem =/
The first 940 I had could not clock past 3.8GHz and it would run extremely hot, like 90C+ hot at just 3.8GHz. The second 940 I had would clock to 4.0GHz with relatively low temps but very high voltages. The third 940 I have now clocks past 4.2GHz with relatively low voltages but high temperatures again.Quote:
Originally Posted by bustamove44
So all in all, three chips, three different stories completly.
And I would say that all 920 are rubbing salt into our wounds because they clock as good or better than 940/965 :down: There are even 965s that cannot clock past 3.8GHz (yes, believe me I know of some).
So basically it renders the x22 and auto multi on 940 pretty much useless in terms of overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
I should be getting another 920 tommorow or saturday to try, not sure if I should keep this 940 till intel release the 950 and send it back to them, as technically it doesnt function as its designed to.
Its a bit like buying a 100 watt lightbulb that only gives 70w power worth of light.
but then they would be covered because its runs at rated speed.:(
Oh the joys of chasing rainbows!:shrug:
This is goofy...Quote:
Originally Posted by lysyn123
I'm on bios 0903.
I have 3x2gb ram and 2 x GTX 295's and Vista 64 and never had a problem....
Go figure.
Yeah, basically. I am keeping my 940, though there is a good chance that I may jump to the 950 once it is released for one reason....Quote:
Originally Posted by bustamove44
The fact that they would EOL 940s so soon after release reeks of issues that they are aware of but do not want to state.
I am covered for three years after all.
First off all many thx to dejanh and cstkl1 for calling and mailing with ASUS for the TDP/TDC problem. I'm currently running on the 1104 bios and it kicks ass :rocker:Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee
http://i42.tinypic.com/2v96ide.jpg
In what way? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OcAddict
Oh.....and a big thx to dejanh and cstkl1!!!, nice one guys, for getting ASUS to move their ass! ;)
In the way that the multi doesn't clock back to 20 if you run Prime95 with HT on!!! :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
Thanks guys! I like this new BIOS. Recently my OC with this board has become obviously unstable so I've had to back off from my 200x20. But so far I'm able to do 191x21 for about the same CPU speed.
Finally Asus listed to us and heard our complaints and fixed something. Now I just hope they work on that stupid "cold boot" issue!!!
Jason
HT is a permanent OFF for me now. :) It shows practically no gain having it enabled (lets be honest, nothing really uses it) and generates way too much heat for what little it does :)Quote:
In the way that the multi doesn't clock back to 20 if you run Prime95 with HT on!!!
Even higher clocks can also be achieved with it off ;) My 4 cores will do, I'll skip the virtual. :p:
Anybody got linkage to the 1104? It's not up on the official site. I just went there.
I think you just don't have the programs to take advantage of it. Almost every intensive application I use (where you NEED the power) takes advantage of it, and it's no small gain either...it cuts times in half and on some apps 1/3 the time. It is a *substantial* gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
I have never understood why people buy a system like this and then cripple it. You are not gaining anything by turning it off. Yeah, you're increasing clocks, but still loosing performance. A 1 step forward two steps back kind of thing. If you didn;t need the threads to begin with why buy an i7? :shrug: It's like buying a ferrari but saying I'm only gonna use 1 and second gear...the gains from the other gears are marginal.
Here ya goQuote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
1104 Bios
Name them?Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Utter rubbish! Tell me of any application/game that uses 4 cores + 4 virtual?
The intensive Photoshop 4 has implemented GPU usage, but I don't see it even using the best of 2 cores, never mind anything else, apart from RAM.
Cripple?........lol, what nonsense :rolleyes: :)
Since you only asked for one, Everest Benchmarks....LOL
Other than that, not much it seems......
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/ci7-turbo-ht-p1.html
Apart from benchmarking utils.......lmao :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
Why not? You can use the 1st and 2nd gear to be the fastest off the line :p: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
I could not resist :D
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
Yeah. I seem to remember (giving away my age now lol) we used to have 'turbo' buttons on front of our PC's (I may be going back too far now lol) but, if you needed it, you hit the button ;)
When I need it, I'll hit the button (the un-cripple one) :ROTF:
OK, lets be fair then, divx, h.264, winrar, rendering progs, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...m,2057-12.html
The 'minuses' outway the 'pluses' on that list, for me anyway :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
me too. just saying though.....
Don't worry, I remember those button well too :p: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
And trust me, I was not that young when they were around hahaha
Thanks a bunch, getting ready to try it as soon as I finish this reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by chayos00
Ahhhh, contempt prior to investigation!Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
1. Folding (Shown Vividly By Our Own Movieman who did the tests and showed the results)
2. Rendering
3. Encoding
4. All of my Flow Analysis programs.
5. CADD, especially the Engineering Suite of Solid Edge
6. FSX
There are others, but that's a good start on the list. They didn't spend Millions to incorporate SMT on these CPU's because it was useless. These are not consoles. They are work machines. Play time is just and added benefit.
If you're having issues with heat then control it. I'm currently running HT on at 4.2GHz and don;t get out of the 60's...ever.
All the above can benefit, yes, but are not optimized for 4 + 4, FSX, lol, I run that lovely on a dual core system, folding?, well that's another story lol, and I won't say my comments about that in here ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Basically what you are saying, is that all who have bought into the i7 system, and are not running HT, we've wasted time and money because we now run our systems 'crippled'?
Has anybody added any small fans to their NB/SB setup? I was wondering about maybe a 40-60mm fan over top of it, since my IR temp gun says it's running @ 150*F and my ram is @ 125*F then the heatsinks around the CPU are almost 160*F. I know I could watercool it all, but that's more that I don't want to do right now. Small 40mm fans would be much easier.
When I put my 8" Lakewood fan blowing on the MB directly all those temps drop to like 85-95*F
Thanks a lot to cstlk an dejanh for pushing the lazy bunch of Asus engineers ;)
Asus should thank you too in that way. Lots of people might change their mind on their
decision not to buy this board according to the new bios. :cool:
dejanh does your cold boot prob go away if you remove the mem in the last blue slot ? furthest to the right ? my cold boot disappears with over 1.45 qpi and it's not unstable with oced or standard settings at first bot i have swapped between my 3 mems and it works just fine when i dont use the last slot.
Im thinking of broken mem controller in the cpu but dunno since it works fine after shutdown then on again .
i got batch 3836A689
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/850...b131003rj3.gif
4.2 WITH HT on ! :rofl: Bios 1104 is a hit for me !
Now I need to back down the cpu volts a little because I hit 80c @1.496. :down:
But atleast I made it this far. Prime95 stable and Vantage passed. 25780 3DMark06
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/339...b131008ea2.gif
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/scr...if/1/w1024.png
:clap:
Guys, that 1104 is much more than a modded BIOS for the TDP Override. It seems more stable. I was able to lower my voltage down 2 ticks from 1.45 to 1.43125 vCore. I'm not 100% certain it's 100% stable, but have noticed my system doesn;t like Cinebench when it's not stable. It wouldn't run Cinebench before at anything lower than 1.45. Now it will run it at 1.43125.
You might wanna try and see if you can lower vCore for the same clocks. Lower voltage is always better when you don;t need it. Lower temps too! :yepp:
Can others please confirm if they notice the same thing?
i'm not sure what was changed in 1104. I'm i'm stable at 4.4ghz @ 1.536 vcore (as reported by cpu-z). Everything else auto (other than c state crap). HT and turbo on. ram 1600 w/ 1.65.
it is a 965 cold by a vapochill (unmod'd).
The Cpu under full load is seemingly putting out alot less heat (Prime 95). I could get this before, but after a few min the system would just get to hot (it would normally crash around 30-40c). It is steady sub-zero (mostly :) ) My Apt is hot today too.. about 80F
I think i needed a higher vcore to be stable @ this speed before too...
4.4 was just a random pick.. i'll see if i can go higher when i get back from the gym ^_^
*edit: yeah.. this thing rox! i just keep dropping the vcore and it is still stable. 1.496 now.. sweet.
Yes, 1104 has more changes than just TDP override. It does seem more stable than earlier versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Here is a 4140MHz 20-pass LinX run with 1804MHz DRAM, 3600MHz Uncore, 3960MHz QPI. DRAM is 100% stable and has been extensively tested in both Memtest86+ 2.11 and Memtest HCI. The settings are as follows...
TDP Override - Enabled
BCLK - 180MHz
Multiplier - Auto (22x, 23x with Turbo)
DRAM - 1804MHz, 8-9-7-19-1T
CPU Voltage - 1.36250V
QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35000V
DRAM Voltage - 1.65681V
Load Line Calibration - Auto
All else is on defaults...here is the screenshot...
Nice score, can you run again with physics disabled? would be interesting to see what you get under 'no physics' condition at those clocks. I ask because im trying to decide if I will buy a gtx 295 or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by lysyn123
thanks.:up:
What RAM? I'd like to get mine higher than 1604 if I could. I haven;t gone above 1.65v and have 1.35 QPI/DRAM (Vtt) also.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
So you guys think 1.526 v core at 4.2ghz with HT on is safe? My temps were 79-83c ... Just wondering if that clock would shorten my cpu's lifespan greatly.
For some reason, I have to have the CPU Turbo Power Limit set to DISABLED for the override to work as well as all C1 otherwise my multi drops to 20x when priming. TDP can be Enabled or Disabled makes no difference to me so I leave it on Enabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
My settings are:
CPU Turbo Power Limit = Disabled
C1 = Disabled
TDP = Enabled
You are not going to like this...I think you got rid of this one way back... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Triple Channel Kit
I can actually get mine completly stable up to 1904MHz, but there is no decent CPU OC to go with it.
I personally would not run the Vcore so high. I stop at about 1.45V. Some degradation is probably guaranteed when running Vcore so high for 24/7, but you may not notice it if you do not keep your chips for years on end. I pass on all of my old chips to other people so I do not want to ruin them.Quote:
Originally Posted by glenn37216
Temps? TM causes the processor to downclock when the temperatures get too high. It is not good to turn this feature off. CPU Turbo Power Limit is set to Disabled for me...I just said TDP Override enabled - i.e., limit is disabled :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
My TM is Enabled too (default).
yeah.. 1104 is seemlying almost magic (for my system atleast). I just keep dropping the vcore and it is still stable 4.4ghz and 1.440 vcore.. (i needed over 1.5-something before for it to be stable)
Thanks. I'm on air and the multi under load is changing once I hit 80C...way too early. Real Temp and Core Temp temps. If I disable those options, I keep my multi at 21 and cpu stays at 4200 mhz which is the opposite as you???Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
I think I know why. The new bios seems to overvolt underload like crazy. Dont just trust the cpu-z value. Use a DMM to verify it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zurv
Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
Thankx dejanh , Testing 1.45v atm . Whats decent Ich/Ioh voltages to start out with for a shot at 4.2 ? I left them on auto with 1.52cpu v. in bios to get 4.2 stable. I think I could get rocksolid at 4.2 with lower temps by adjusting the nb and sb voltages .
I've still got it. I've been to busy to mess with it yet, but it will be going. I can't get that RAM to OC worth a :banana::banana::banana::banana:. Anything over 1604 and it just won;t run. If I take the ram out it'll OC up to 4.3GHz. Put the RAM back in even at 1704 or even 1654 and it is not stable. I've tried just about every combination of multi's and BCLCK I can and even loosed the timings down to 9-9-9-24-1T and it won't run worth a damn. It Dominates allright...it dominates at sucking really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
Well, thanks for the help. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by DR3
Found that the problem was the PSU.
I replaced the Ultra X3 1000w with a Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w and have had no problems with 12v drop or booting problems. :)
Hey guys I was wondering if somebody could help me get my oc stable with HT on.
So far I cant runt HT on at the settings below and I dont know how much more I can raise vcore without the temps getting too high.
I can run 3800MHz HT on@1.352v but that seems a bit too high. Any help would be appreciated. Im on latest BIOS. Settings below are Prime, Linx and pcmark/3Dmark vantage stable.
AI overclock - manual
OC from CPU level up - auto
OC from Memory level up - auto
CPU Ratio setting - auto
CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - auto
C1E Support - disable
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - disabled
CPU TM Function - disabled
Execute Disabled bit - disabled
Intel HT Technology - disabled
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - enable
Intel Speedstep tech - enabled
Intel Turbo Mode tech - enabled
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled
BCLK frequency - 191
PCIE frequency - 110
DRAM frequency - DDR3 1528MHz
UCLK frequency - 3056MHz
QPI frequency - auto
Dram timing control
1st iformation - Insert Timings Here in 9-9-9-24 -X-X-Xformat
2nd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX -X-X-Xformat
3rd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX-X-X-X format
EPU II phase control - full phase
Load-line calibration - enable
CPU differential amplitude - 800mV
Extreme OV - disabled
Current voltage
Cpu voltage - 1.328V in windows 1.35000v BIOS
CPU PLL voltage - auto
QPI-Dram voltage - 1.37500v BIOS 1.356v win
Current voltage 1.131v - 1.508v - 1.111v - 1.508v
IOH voltage - 1.39v
IOH PCIE voltage - auto
ICH voltage- 1.15316 BIOS 1.15v win
ICH PCIE voltage - auto
Current voltage X.xxx v, X.xxx v, X.xxx v ,X.xxx v
DRAM Bus voltage - 1.64356 v BIOS 1.640 Win
DRAM REF voltage - auto
Debug mode - string
Keyboard TeakIt comtrol - disabled or enable
CPU spread spectrum - disabled or enable
PCIE spectrum - disabled or enable
CPU clock skew - auto or XXXX ps
IOH clock skew - auto or XXXX ps
did it not do this pre-1104?Quote:
Originally Posted by auchkoenig
I cant say for sure since I didnt have access to a DMM before the 1104 bios but I also noticed that I can get higher OC with the same vcore with 1104.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zurv
I wasnt able to get it to run LinX at all regardless of the vcore but now I can run for 30 mins just like the pic that I showed. I can even run LinX for a few minutes at 4.2 with even higher vcore.
With the fact that I can oc at speed that wasnt possible at all before 1104 and the evidence that now 1104 overvolting like crazy, I guess it safe to say that the previous bios was not overvolting, and if it was, it surely wasnt as bad as this.
The board always used to overvolt. Generally, the actual voltage is equal to whatever you set in the BIOS plus another 0.02V to 0.03V. CPUZ is not accurate in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by auchkoenig
Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
the only change i see is the CPU turbo Power Limit on the new BIOS... under extreme tweaker... where is the TDP option you guys are talking about?
Side note: Doing 4.22Ghz with turbo on on 920.
Also how do u go about increasing the ULK speed? i cant seem to be able to get it higher than 3.45..... IOH/ICH voltages? any indication as to what voltages to use?
Yeah thats why I said if it was overvolting, it was surely not as bad as this. I set it in bios for 1.5v iirc and it went as high as 1.556v. Thats some serious overvolting and cpuz was only showing 1.488. To someone that doesnt have an access to a DMM, it is a vcore delta of 0.068v, quite dangerous discrepancy imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
Just checked with my DMM...Quote:
Originally Posted by auchkoenig
Idle 1.358V (rougly the same as CPUZ), Load 1.387V - 1.393V so roughly 0.03V higher. This is with LLC on Auto.
Seems the same to me...
Ok, the CPU Turbo Power Limit for me is Disabled, TM is Enabled. Is this what you have as well or?Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
OK, I'll be checking this when I get back home. If that thing is OV'ing like that an e-mail is gonna be sent immediately about it. I'll also do some testing with Loadline enabled and disabled. It might be that they are trying to get the loadline working and failed. heh I'll definitely do some testing. I have a DMM that is really accurate.
I'm glad you caught that. I got careless and should've checked that myself and didn't. I tell you, you can't trust anything anymore. :shakes: I do NOT want anything over 1.45 going through my CPU and really that is too dang high.
If you read my post above, I measured it using my DMM under load. The amount of overvolting is the same as before for me...0.02V to 0.03V.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
I guess you can test if things are coming up different for you, but on my board everything still seems to be fine. If you explicitly set LLC to Disabled then there is no overvolting but the droop is stupidly high.
I set the LLC to enabled. I have also tested with a few other vcore value and it seems to always overvolt under load 0.5V to 0.6V which double yours. Dont know if it is a problem with my board, my settings or my cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
And i do have a question, the high speed RAM recently introduced by Corsair requires absurdly high vtt, around 1.5v iirc, thats way higher than the Intel limit of 1.35v. So is it okay for manufacturer to sell an item that operates way above Intel spec? Wont it damage the cpu and what is safe max vtt that wont burn out your cpu in a week?
Auchkoenig, is it possible your mm is not calibrated correctly? Just a thought.
I will also test this tommorow with my mm and see how we all compare.
I have both disabled and then the limit is removed. When I get home, I'll just enable TM and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
has anyone else had a problem loading oc profiles? I know it erased them when I flashed, but I have a few for different stages of oc, and sometimes when I select profile 3, for ex, it loads 2 or 4, or even 1 instead.....very irritating as it did not do this with 1001.
Well that's probably true.Quote:
Originally Posted by bustamove44
the only options that matter for the extra multi is that your multi is set on auto, speedstep/turbo is enabled, and the new cpu turbo power limit setting is disabled. all else doesnt matter in this regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
Strange? I'm still on BIOS 0805, and my Domms happily run at 1700+ with 8-8-8-20-1T timings (1.64v), not had time to try new BIOS as yet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Yeah, on top of that to add insult to injury, they pulled a nasty stunt with me on their forums over there. Even if this stuff OC'd to 2000 I'd still get rid of it. After it's gone I will never run another Corsair product again. That's why it's been removed from my sig. They had a longtime customer that would've been a lifelong one, and blew it.
Not once, not twice, but 3 times they pulled some BS with me, and the third time one of their Admins tried to post under my username like it was me. I got that rectified real quick, and their Server Admin told them never to do that again. I had my user account removed from that place along with my posts pronto. Two of them there better be damned glad that Server Admin had more sense than they did...I'll put it that way.
Straight up though. This RAM will not clock worth a damn. That has nothing to do with what I wrote about above. It's the worst clocking RAM I've ever had. I could've got value RAM that would've clocked better than these sticks...for about 200 dollars less too. It's going on Ebay soon though.
Pride is a killer.:yepp:.... just kidding.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
I have the 1866 corsair dominator triple channel stuff, its fine but not clocking great I have to say.
I also have 4x1gb dual channel stuff, kingston hyperx 1866mhz. I run 3 of those, they will go much tighter with low voltage too! and get this, I got them for £41 gbp on ebay auction!
The doms are good imo, they cost me £165 :eek: proper low voltage triple channel ram but the hyperx are better and dual channel [I use three] work that one out! :ROTF:
Thank you very much. Off topic, I hope the Canucks kick some Dallas @ss tonight. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
OK, my board is overvolting too. I did the testing and these are the numbers I got.
Set In Bios - 1.44375 volts
Actual Voltage at Idle - 1.442 volts measured with DMM
CPU-Z Voltage in Vista64 - 1.432 volts
Voltage Under Load - 1.479-1.481 volts fluctuates slightly. Chess Benchmark was used to load all 8 threads.
CPU-Z showed no change during load at all, but the DMM don't lie. I used ProbeIt straight through the CPU ProbeIt point to measure.
This is a little higher than I'd like to see. I'm kinda disapointed not just with the BIOS, but with myself. I made a promise to myself I was not gonna make mistakes like this. I Screwed Up is what I did. I did not test my voltages, and because of that I exceeded my hard limit I placed on myself for vCore. I was not gonna go over 1.45 volts under any circumstances. 1.4 was really my max, but I made a mental note to allow 0.05 if I needed that extra bit to maintain stability. Now I broke my own rule I placed upon myself, and if it degrades over time it's because I screwed up. :(
I feel like a damned idiot for not watching my voltages. I know better. The thing could've OV'd to 2.0 friggen volts and I would've never known it. That's got to be the dumbest mistake I've made in a long time. :shakes:
T_Flight loads a beta BIOS and doesn;t check his voltages. Arrrrghhh! With a Rampage II Extreme with ProbeIt points and everything.
OK, I'm done venting...
guys
overvolting on load its what loadline is all about
loadline started working correctly starting from m2f/re/r2e
previous loadlines on other mobo's was set bios say at 1.4v droop 1.375... loadline 1.4v
on the 16 phase setup set bios at 1.4v dropp 1.396v loadline around 1.453v
so its just different but still way better than gigabyte on their implementation of loadline
the latest dfi also seems to be similar to asus loadline.
btw it was like this since bios 080x
also loadline is to have a higher load voltage than idle.. so it is correctly implemented
no such luck.......Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
well hmm not sure but found a issue
with the tdc limit disabled
theres this one proc at multi 21x200
if it hits 80C on all the cores.. it will bsod
no throttling however.
anyone with a similar issue??
cause it looks like the tdc/tdp limit one of them is not implemented prop for mycase
it stops the throttling but theres the issue of the 80C limit.
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Originally Posted by cstkl1
That wouldn;t be loadline calibration though. It would be negative loadline. I have a VDroop and Loadline mod on my old IC7-G vmodded onto the board via a pot. The first pot calibrates the voltage droop so it matches the BIOS. The second pot calibrates the hysterisis so that it doesn't create negative or postive loadine which is droop or negative droop under load. You can actually set negative loadl into it, but I never did. I was never sure what it would do long term, and the guy that designed the mod wasn;t either, and recomended not trying it.
I'm gonna go back and turn off loadline and see what happens. If it's overshooting that isn't calibrating. Now I have to figure out what the worst of two evils is. I'm still disgusted, becasue I di not want that thing going over 1.45 ever. It was going to be a longevity test. Now all that just went out the window. If it degrades I'll never know if it was caused by the overshoot or not. If it does degrade I'll always blame myself for that one. :(
Links for proof of this?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Loadline is supposed to ELIMINATE droop, not cause negative droop (or as you are describing it a voltage BULGE). Loadline is supposed to keep idle and load voltages very close to the same. Just like the pre-P4 cpu boards worked (e.g. Pentium 3/coppermine/etc, P2...)
Why do you think vdroop resistor and pencil mods were out for so long?
The exact same thing is happening to me. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
I know this. I do NOT wanna have to hard mod a 400 dollar motherboard. They need to caliobrate the calibration on their loadline trick in that BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Let's see a show of hands for who's on board with this. We got them to fix the TDP override. Let's see if we can get this one fixed too. I can start hunting for specs on every chip on that dang board and find the pins but it would take forever, and I really don't wanna go "old scool" on a board that costs this much. I don;t want that kind of negative loadline either though.
I'm getting rwady to do some testing now. If I can fix it, I'm gonna ahve to turn it off or downclock and neither of those are good choices, but I can't have that. My rig has some serious bucks tied up in it. It's not just the money, but the time spent testing and tweaking. I don't want it dead.
Just to clarify that. I don;t want a BIOS putting high juice to my 1000 dollar CPU! heh :yepp:
Be back after awhile after I try to see what I can do about this as a workaround for the time being.