duno, but i will count it. I have to reaseat the heatsink anyways, because 50°C at full load with IFX-14 at stock (3ghz) is unaccaptable. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
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duno, but i will count it. I have to reaseat the heatsink anyways, because 50°C at full load with IFX-14 at stock (3ghz) is unaccaptable. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
AND I never had the cold boot problem again (Bios is F4b)Quote:
Originally Posted by 2DIFF
First time I quote myself ;)
BTW I just realized none of my posted pics were displayed, seems like my webserver needs improvement too...
That's pretty strange, I'm using the Jmicron controller for my IDE DVD-ROM and DVDW/R -/+ drives, and I haven't encountered any issues with my system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
Just recently, I wanted to test Media Center on Vista and used a DVD movie, I didn't notice any hang ups at all. Even installing everything from Gigabyte's pack-in driver disk was smooth sailing. I also installed ET: Quake Wars. And not to mention Vista itself.
But I'm just using the IDE connector, not the SATA ports. All my HDDs are connected to the ICH9R controller.
P.S.: I'm still running the F6 BIOS that came with my board on the second week of December.
Hmm, do you guys think that perhaps an X-Fi in my only free PCI slot might be causing some problems? It's the one component that, strangely, I simply have not touched during all my testing.
What are the odds a sound card could be to blame for all my problems? (BTW, I have no issues with sound, and it functions perfectly).
Sobek: Do you have the latest drivers for X-Fi ? for ATI (I know that HD 2900xt had a lot of issues till the latest drivers)?
I'm pretty sure I do, I'll have to do some checking. They release new drivers so infrequently for X-Fi's that even if I didn't update it in a year, I'd probably still be using the 'latest' drivers.
The drivers I have on file are 'SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_09_0007.exe'. Would that be the latest? (XP, remember). Might go trawling through Creative's site and see what I can find.
50C?...is that the X48 chipset temp?, or your quad core CPU?, 50C at stock with that IFX is pretty damn hot :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Hi. I just built my machine in time for the holidays and after a couple of issues, I got her up and running fine using Windows Vista 64. No OC'ing yet, but that will be for next weekend ;)
So far, all the programs I have installed are compatible. I did have a problem with the windows bios flash program. It went into that continous start post shutdown loop. But after clearing CMOS 3 times, that issue went away, sheew. Think I will use Q-flash next time and for now i will stick with F6B.
I do still have one or two problems. I installed XP first before vista to setup what I hoped was a dual boot system. Never could get the audio to work in XP, not sure if I did the audio drivers right and maybe I let windows driver dialog take over when I shouldn't (saw the warning on pg. 98 of the MB manual a little to late). It does work in vista though.
So after installing vista using the correct options for keeping my XP OS, I updated it, installed a few programs, but when I went back and picked the XP OS harddrive to boot 1st vs the Vista OS HDD (have the OSs on separate HDDs) i got a bootmgr error. So it want boot to XP now. Haven't tried booting from the XP startup disk yet, which might fix the error. Just not sure why this didn't go as smooth as it should have. I did change volume names of the HDDs in vista, so not sure if that matters. Also, if i do get XP running again, is there away to setup a dual boot without having to go into Bios and changing the HDD boot order? :down:
Thanks!
GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 MB
Q6600 Processor - GO
8GB of G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB
2x WD Caviar RE2 500GB 7200 RPM SATA in Raid 0
2x WD Raptor 36GB (non-raid) OS harddrives
1 external WD USB 300GB & old 160GB IDE HDD
CORSAIR ATX12V V2.2 550W PSU
ZALMAN 9700 CPU Cooler
Vista x64 and XP 32bit OS
yes its the cpu, and the heatsink gets barely warm, so im sure the heatsink needs to be reseated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Removed and uninstalled my soundcard, no change at all...
One thing I've noticed is that my crossfire bridges are EXTREMELY (and I must stress extremely) touchy. The mere weight of my finger coming into contact with either one (not actually pushing, just basically resting against it) is enough to cause massive flickering and / or strange colour patterns everywhere. This is the same both with my brand new (expensive) bridges I ordered, or the ones that shipped with the cards. Out of sheer annoyance, I popped one the bottom-inner side of one of the bridges off ingame... Framerates stayed nice and high and all the corruption vanished, but even with 200+ fps in TF2, it FELT like 30 or 40 fps. This still makes me think that for some reason, something is going wrong with the blending of the frames. What would be responsible for that? Two brand new cards with identical problems (magically), drivers, or the motherboard? I tried doing crossfire on this board without any bridges installed, and I got the message that "No dongles / bridges are connected, cards are not supported, or your motherboard does not have any communication lanes between PCI-e slots". Since my cards are supported (and I've seen some people do software crossfire on these cards before), could that point to something fishy going on with the motherboard?
I just don't know what to think. What else could there be? :( :confused:
First of all Mary Christmas ! to everyone here :)
Second put the cpu at least on 400Mhz fsb, third crossfire or sli doesn't work without the bridge between the video cards.
Check how is mounted the mainboard, maybe you missed a mounting screw on the case.
Try with only one card and see what is the performance without, and with overclock at 400MHz. That mainboard supports 400Mhz without any problems (QX9770 works on 1600 FSB (400Mhz)).
I am considering the X-38-DQ6 for a new build.
Case: Antec 900
Power: Corsair 650
Probably go for Q6600 CPU.
I'd like 4GB RAM (2x2GB). What RAM setups have worked well?
I'm considering the Scythe Mine Rev.B. What do you think?
Enjoying the thread!
Mine's working great with 2x2Gb of G.Skill's PC8000 PQ. They're @ 1080 with stock timings and stock voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celerator
Happy Xmas from Realtek, December 25th and a new driver release. 889A codec drivers version 1.84:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
Stock voltage?...2.0V or 2.1V?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
You can go and view the .pdf file from the Gb website which gives a list of verfied and tested memory, but for 4GB and price/performance ratio....you can't beat this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Celerator
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
The Scythe Mine should work fine.
hi ive a problem maybe someone can help me..ive the T motherboard with ddr3 support..ive flash bios with f4a; after the reboot my motherboard is restarting every 5 second...bios corrupted? rma ?
thanks
Take out the CMOS battery, leave for a few mins...then reseat it and see what hapens.
Run fine at 2.0 volts here at 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 on the P5K Dlx, very nice ram for it's price...Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
2.10vQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I am completely having a brain fart or something because I cannot figure outhte audio drivers. I am hooking up the spdiff optical and analog connectiosn both up to my reciever(just to test each of there functionality and capabilities) and I can't figure out how to set speaker configurations, etc to 7.1 or at leats 5.1 to my stereo system and reciever. Please help. I downloaded the azalia drivers from gigabyte website. Do I need something else or is this the wrong thing? I can only seem to get stereo.
@Guns81: Take out one stick of ram,boot, and get into bios and change the memory settings more to your ram...I have Corsair 1600 and the default on F4a and above sets the memory @ 1333mhz, which for some reason will NOT boot on my ram. In fact wont boot if the memory speed is anywhere from about 1230 or so to 1380, not sure why, but definitely funky. But yeah, it is what gave me the endless reboot cycle, thought I had fried the board via bios flash ;)
I RMA'd my first X38T board b/c of that same issue, didnt figure out the problem until I got my second one and had it happen again.
Good Luck
Crossfire does indeed work without the bridges connected, I tried that once on my previous board (DFI CFX3200-DR) with these very cards and it seemed to work fine, though things ran much much worse... I can only assume bridge-less crossfire isn't supported on this X38 board. Motherboard is mounted perfectly, every single mounting hole has a washer + screw in it, not too tight either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
I'm not sure what you want me to do exactly... Try only one card (which has always worked perfectly) with and without my overclock? Single cards work just fine for me, either by themselves or with both in and just crossfire disabled. I've tested both cards individually both with my overclock applied, and without. I've tried Crossfire with my overclock and without, too... All still the same.
Though out of curiosity, why should I stick to a 400mhz overclock? Are there known problems when using a lower FSB? :confused:
but i cant enter on bios..ive try to remove battery and one stick of ram but ive seen the boot image only one time :(
ive supertalent ram 1333 and enermax galaxy 1kw..thanks for help
edit: now with 1 stick of ram is stopped on bios image
Yes there are some problems with nonstandard FSB's. The mainboards work better at a standard FSB like 800, 1066, 1333, or 1600, since they were optimized to work at that FSB.
There are multipliers also for PCI, PCI-E, if you let the mb on PCI-E on auto I thought your ATI's doesn't get along well on the frequencies set by the MB.
i did some LN2 testing a couple of days ago
have a look at the amount of water on the board and the mofo worked perfect pushing an E6850 to 5350MHz 2D/3D stable
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170796
Well, I've finally got my water cooled rig up and running and so this board is now my main PC.
Currently busy installing everything I need before trying to push the OC further. However, I have noticed a couple of small problems.
I'm currently running F5h bios with Q6600 @ 3.6GHz (400*9) with 4x1GB Ballistix PC2-8500 @ 1066 24hr Prime stable.
I've just installed WinXP on 2 * 74GB raptors in RAID0 and here comes the first annoyance. In order to set up the RAID, I had to switch the SATA RAID/AHCI Mode to 'Raid' (obviously) and since doing so I do not get the logo screen during POST. The system goes straight to the RAID drive detection routine and ends with the option to press <CTRL> + I to configure. No option to get into BIOS. I've tried pressing <DEL> constantly, but no luck. I can occasionally get into BIOS using a combination of <DEL> and <CTRL> + I, although I cannot determine the pattern required to get in consistently. If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know. Oh - and yes, I do have the option in BIOS set to show the logo screen :D.
The other annoyance is a cold boot bug (I think). As I'm not exactly sure what the 'cold boot bug' is, I'll describe the symptoms. If the PSU is disconnected, then the 1st boot after reconnecting fails. Lights come on briefly and then go off. The system then automatically reboots and this time it is successful. Now, seeing as I don't normally disconnect my PSU, and also considering that this problem requires no intervention on my part and only adds a fews seconds to the boot process, I'm not all that bothered about it. However, if someone knows of a fix to this, then I'm willing to give it a try.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
~aoe~: The bios does this... on first boot it checks everything (PSU Voltages, sets Memory timings (If is on Auto), CPU, and the other devices). If something is wrong the Bios automaticaly tryes to set it, and if it can't than it resets to it's defaults.
What You have there is not a cold boot problem. A cold boot problem is if your system doesn't start at all, or something fails to detect or start at boot (like it doesn't detect the hard drives for example), after a night (with the PSU conected), when all computer component are "cold". :)
The problem with entering the bios, I didn't had it when I tried raid or ahci. Try the latest Bios F7H (look in predvious posts there is a link).
Thx for the response ChrissTi.
I wasn't sure about the boot thing. It's new behaviour since I enabled the RAID function so I wasn't sure what was happening.
I'm sure to try other BIOS revisions once I've got everything installed and try to push the system a bit more. Maybe a newer revision will solve the problem of no logo screen. It is very frustrating not being able to get into the BIOS :ROTF:
uhn just press del while starting?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~aoe~
if the 3 keyboard leds flash up just hit del -> tata your in the bios.
I rearly see the boot screen cause of my crt, but i dont care. :p:
Hmm, I see. I tried removing the overclock (again) so it was just at the stock 266 x 9, but that made no difference. So I gradually clocked it up to 400 x 9 (which is perfectly stable with my system, I just prefer to hold back a little), and that made no difference. During my attempts at solving this, I've also tried setting the PCI-e frequency (mhz) manually to both 100 and 105 (as was suggested by another user having similar problems to me) but neither helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Should that just be at 100, or something else? By PCI / PCI-e multipliers, do you actually mean the PCI-e frequency? I can't see anything else to change.
*edit* I also notice this odd form of display corruption in some games (TF2, Lost Planet, for instance). It's a little like extremely brief flashes of model corruption that starts at the dead center of my screen and arcs out in a small triangle. Extremely hard to describe, and actually quite easy to miss if I'm not watching out for it in particular. Remember, I have tested both of these cards individually in both my system and others, and this kind of corruption NEVER occurs outside of Crossfire mode... Whatever is happening is going awry when these cards try and merge their rendering together. Whether this is some bizarre one-in-a-million fault in both of my cards, or something this motherboard is causing (which I suspect because crossfire worked fine a mere day before in my CFX3200-DR, and my friends older P35-DS4). Man this is so lame.
sry for the delay, if reseated my cpu cooler now but temps are still the same... bad luck with cpu... 51° @ 3ghz stock. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
anyways, i have the 30 (32) fin NB cooler.
Thanks CC and RD for the memory suggestions.
Looks like 2x2Gb of G.Skill's PC8000 PQ is the consistent suggestion.
Anyone else having success on the X38-DQ6 with 2x2GB?
yeah - I tried mashing the DEL from startup through to the <CTRL> + I message, but no luck. It doesn't go into BIOS and after the <CTRL> + I option, goes straight into windows. I've occasionally managed to get into BIOS after mashing the DEL and then hitting the <CTRL> + I at the prompt, but it's random and sometimes goes into the RAID configuration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
I'll try and clear CMOS and see if that fixes the problem. If not, I'll have to try a different BIOS revision.
Strange problem indeed :confused:
Clear CMOS did the trick. I've got my logo screen back and can now access BIOS :up:
I get the same thing - and I have to cut the PSU current, because it consumes 34 Watts doing NOTHING :mad:, PSU is on but PC is off (I contacted Thermaltake about this, asking them if they ever heard about things like energy efficiency or global warming or stuff like that). Never in my life I'd let something consume 34 Watts doing nothing, so I pull the plug. When rebooting, I get the same symptoms. Bios is F4bQuote:
Originally Posted by ~aoe~
Thanks for that. It's good to know it's not a problem.
I know what you mean about the PSU consuming power when the PC is off. However, I wouldn't blame the PSU manufacturer. It's the motherboard that is consuming the power, and keeping things like:
- USB ports active for charging stuff
- sensors to allow power on by keyboard/mouse/etc..
These are gimmicks that some people like to have. Until we change peoples mindset, this isn't going to change sadly :shakes:
Guns81: I know it may not make sense, but try 1 stick of ram in each memory slot, then try the other stick in each memory slot and see if one any of those work, if they do not, you may have to RMA it.
Apparently any bios after F3i has the memory speed and timings set up for 1333, which is supposed to work on your memory, just like it is supposed to work on my 1600 memory, but something is set wrong. F3i and below have the speed and timings set for 1066, which works fine for me to boot into.
Hope this helps,
Isepick
i'd try..there is only one configuration with a stick on first slot in this case i can see the boot image and then if i press canc del ins canc f9 f12 or something else this is blocked..only tab sometime work...
thanks for help!
Can't the power supply throttle itself down until something requests power consumption? Why does it have to use 34 watts constantly, where does all that power go to?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~aoe~
I agree that the board consumes power when the PC's off, but I had a 500W Seasonic PSU before and I measured 11 watts (PSU ON, PC OFF) and 6 watts (PSU OFF). So I do blame Thermaltake for the 34 Watts (it's 16 watts when PSU OFF). It's just that I've got a fileserver running 24/7 that consumes 45 watts @ 10% CPU load, so the Thermaltake ToughPower 700 uses 75% of that amount for nothing - seems pretty insane to me. BTW: never got an answer from Thermaltake customer care :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by victor_c26
~aoe~
cool, you got it working i just read your post and thought maybe a ps2 keyboard would be better than usb ,if thats what you were using ? anyway,glad you sorted it..hey this makes me drool a bit for raid 0 on mine too....whats it like? did you get 2 x 10000 rpms? are they loud? did it literally speed your system up by x2 in certain areas.
im thinking 2 x raptor 36gig for xp ....strange how all these raptors are sata150? i thought they would be sata2(300)
anyone else using raid on a x38 dq6 too?
:)
on
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
found
26.12.07
GA-X38-DQ6 - TestBetaBIOS Version F7j
More Loadline Calibration fixes
And for those with cold start problems when overclock a cold start fix
But the bios still is not available. It will be available any moment :)
Guess that would be doable with 2 HDs aswell (be innovative), did this once because of noise, used bike-tube, never heard that HD whirling again..;) Hang em' high.Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
Attachment 69552
sounds sweet!! that would be the answer to my problems!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
haha good one 2diff . :) never seen that before. cool, stops the whole case vibrating like a speaker box
Just wanted to ask a question to be sure I mounted the Heatpipe system right when removing Crazy Cool.
Since I had to use a regular screw and nut for one pinhole on the X38 heatsink, and the spring loaded nut screw and screw combination for the other, I'm afraid I'm putting too much pressure on the chipset.
How much presssure can it take? For the screw I had to use from my own collection, I tightened it just enough for it to be noticeable. When I felt the change in grip as the heatsink contacted the IHS plate of the chipset, I went at most a quarter turn further, maybe less. But with the Spring loaded screw, I can't tell when the spring is doing it's job and when the screw itself is applying pressure. So now I'm left wondering as to how tight the heatsink is grappled with the chipset, and the possibility of damage cause by long term use like that.
Right now it's running fine, but I'm afraid something might "Pop" unexpectedly in the future.
All WD Raptors are 10k rpm. They are louder than other drives but how much louder largely depends on how you install them into the case. I like 2DIFF's solution :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
Mine were previously installed in a TJ07 using the standard hdd modules supplied. In this configuration, they were rather noisy as there was no vibration dampening at all (and flimsy aluminium modules). However, in the Lian-Li modules, they are much quieter as they rest on rubber washers so the disks are not in contact with the case.
The advantage of Raptors is a greatly reduced seek time (4.6ms read seek compared to around 8.9ms for most latest generation 7200rpm disks). The advantage of RAID0 is faster transfer rates (both read and write). Put the 2 together and they really fly. I wouldn't say you get twice the performance, but it's definitely noticeable. Remember that the slowest component in any PC is the hdd so any improvement tends to be noticeable.
It's not necessary to go with Raptors though. Any RAID0 with recent generation hdds will provide a noticeable performance improvement.
If you do decide to go RAID0, then you will need to decide what data to store on it. Personally, I give priority to my OS and programs (excluding game installations). I like to keep my games on a separate disk as most games will also require OS files (drivers) so this helps improve load times.
I've just moved all but 1 of my Raptors into the new build, so I now have 2 x RAID0 arrays, 1 for my OS and programs and the other for game installations.
There will be some people who will tell you that RAID0 creates more risk of data loss. It is true that the risk is doubled as if either disk fails, any data stored on the disks cannot be retrieved. However, disks tend to be very reliable, so the risk of one failing is minimal. 2 x minimal is still very low risk (still minimal in my opinion). However, again personally, I don't store any data on a RAID0 array that I am not prepared to lose. All my data (docs, videos, pics, program installation files, music, etc..) is on a single disk and also backed up onto an external disk. If 1 of my RAID0 disks were to fail, I would need to replace the disk and do a complete reinstall. For the performance gain, it's a risk I'm prepared to take.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celerator
That's what I have, except I have four of them installed for a total of 8GB. Vista 64 recognizes all 8 and using about 15 to 20% of the ram during mild computing.
Can someone stick the new F7j beta up on Rapidshare when it's available for download?
Also...can anyone translate from German to English?...i'd say GB are close to an official F7 bios now, i'm guessing boards with F7 will ship soon.
26.12.07 - GA-X38-DQ6 BIOS F7j ... Test läuft...
Loadline Calibration jetzt Auto-Disabled-Enabled
OC bei Strap266 CPUen [2.50A]... Test fehlerhaft ...[2.00A] und [3.00A] OK
OC bei Strap333 CPUen... Test OK
Standby Bug bei Loadline Calibration [Enabled]... Test fehlerhaft ... [Disabled] OK
Info: Empfehle z.Z. noch weiterhin die F7f Version
We'll all move to SSD's when the price comes down more....two of those in RAID 0 is astonishing!
I've had my eye on them, but they're gonna need to improve the write times before I commit to them (and the price obviously :D).
Mtron baby..Mtron!
CPU-Z, version 1.42.3
http://bakkap.free.fr/Softs/cpu-z-142-3.zip
It says:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
26.12.07 - GA-X38-DQ6 BIOS F7j ... In testing...
Loadline Calibration now Auto-Disabled-Enabled
OC with Strap266 CPU's [2.50A]... Test failed ...[2.00A] und [3.00A] OK
OC with Strap333 CPU's... Test OK
Standby Bug with Loadline Calibration [Enabled]... Test failed ... [Disabled] OK
Info: Recommend for the time being use F7f Version
Wow. Any occasions when you come close to using 8GB?Quote:
Originally Posted by panzer948
Thanks!
Looks like I'm not alone!
http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...&enterthread=y
It's the 5th post down, the one with all the videos. Take a gander at the TF2 video he posted, that is EXACTLY what happens with me too... Coincidence that we're both using HD's on an x38 chipset? I know of one other person who has this exact same issue who is also using 2900's on a gigabyte x38-dq6. In some ways, this is both good, and bad news. Good that I'm not alone, bad that it seems unfixable.
Where to from here? Anyone think this is something Gigabyte could fix? It would seem to be limited to X38 chipsets, so there's bound to be something they can do... One can dream, right?
After playing around with some of the beta BIOS's, I seriously think that time is being wasted on them. With the F5x, F6b, and F7's, I was never able to get above 435 FSB. With F3, I was able to break 500 FSB without a sweat. RAM is running perfectly at 1000 MHz - 5-5-5-15 timings.
If you are running a dual-core, why use anything else?
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/158/ocvk1.th.jpg
Speaking for myself, I have some big image files and compressed files that are like over 6-8GB, and let me tell you unzipping an 8GB file goes real quick on my system until I run out of ram and then it takes like 30 minutes to finish it off at a slow crawl, so yeah 8GB of system memory would do it in about 2 minutes or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celerator
I have 2x1Gb by the way.
Also good for image, sound and video editing.
thanks ~aoe~
yeah the latencies are so small..wow. ....and hey because your disks only need to be so big for your programs/OS you can just back up to a standard sata drive :)
raid 0 seems even more like a great idea i may save up my pennies. :)
i would like to store important audio /video and program files for editing (so it runs quicker) ..so if i did this i would need to back up after each session so any changes are stored to another backup drive. I'll have to find a quick way to do that ..some type of program that knows what ive done and only saves the changes to a drive rather than the whole drive. i think a mirror or something like that?
peace:)
I can't go more than 460 with Q9300 Yorkfield !
I hope the new bios fix that !
Wait and see
PS : Great clocking @ 8 x 500
Sobek do you have ATI Catalyst™ 7.12 drivers ?
RIPS_FR Do you have Q9300 ???
ble, i dont like it how X38T owner get shafted biosupdate wise. :down:
i've take another x38t dq36 because the first after bios flash doesnt work..so now ive the same problem..if i try to install windows xp on a raid0 the installation miss a lot of files...if i try to install in only one raptor its the same..i dont understand and i dont know what to do...
Yeah, this occurs on pretty much any driver release (going back too far clears it up, naturally, because earlier drivers sometimes don't contain game profiles and it just runs single card mode anyway).Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
It's so random. Some people with this board have this problem, some don't. Some are revision 1.0, some 1.1... There's no common link that I can find.
SOBEK: Have U tried without X-FI ? or without overclock ? I got some problems if the voltages of cpu or memory are too low, when I oveclock. Whay frequecy is your memory at ?
Try 400FSB with memory at 800.
Tried it without the X-Fi just the other night (posted that a page ago I think). Tried running with no X-Fi and no overclock (stock fsb / multi, stock voltages, stock everything) and it made no difference, tried raising my overclock to 400x9 (800 memory), that made no difference either. Also tried forcing my PCI-e frequency to 100mhz, 105, 110, and 112, none had any effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Running out of things to change :p:
*edit* It occurs to me that I'm not really discussing the BIOS of my board in particular any more... Would everyone prefer I branch off to a seperate thread to get support with this?
X48 ??? :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Now why dont I have that lol
looks like you got a x48 to me ,badged as a x38 well done.:up:
Nope - I suspect it's a bug in the program. I get the same :rofl:
jup bug in cpuz.
I get X48 in that CPU-Z version too, but not in the previous build.
hello
is anyone on here using an x38-dq6 , XP pro 32bit with.... 4 x 1gigs of ram?
im using 2x 1 gig at present and i need a little more(just under 3gig). i read xp cant see the full 4gigs but some systems can use up too 3 gig of the 4 installed ,but , on some systems it ruins performance.
i notice many people list in their sig's that they use 4 gigs but, not which OS they be on?
so im trying to find out if it slows down an x38-dq6 to use 4 x 1 gig on xp 32bit?
thanks :)
most mobos should give no problem with 4gb and 32bit os. just try it.
anyway right now im going throught testing every strap/multi for its max fsb on my board.
on the 2.66D i can achive 470Mhz testing the others some time later. I think tomorrow ill test the 2.0x (A/B/C/D) multi/straps and see how far i can go on each.
I'm on dual boot, xp 32-bit/vista ultimate 64-bit. I'm showing 3.50GB available in xp. Not really using vista much atm cos of problems with sound card. I'm happy with system response, although I've done no real measurements.Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
What the hell?? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Chriss, try CPU-Z 1.42....just to see what is reported. Maybe it's a bug issue with this 1.42.3 build?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
New? X38-DQ6 review:
http://www.hardwareoc.at/Gigabyte_GA-X38-DQ6.htm
^
test is quite old, it was tested in november. ;)
It seems X48 has the same id as X38, so whats the difference betwen them :)
And something I thought I will not see that soon ...
http://www.thehardwarelabs.com/forum...read.php?t=756
X48 is a higher binned chip, Intel guarantees it to run 400FSB...sure Gigabyte claims the X38 does the same, but Intel guarantee it.
Interesting. I upped my PCI-e frequency from my previous max of 112mhz, to 115mhz... Suddenly, the tearing and blended frames have become MUCH more tolerable, pretty much bearable, really.
What would be the safe limits for pushing my PCI-e frequency? 115 is as far as I've ever gone, and I wouldn't mind going a tad higher to see if it further clears this up.
You're not the first person I see overclocking the PCI-E frequency in BIOS... what's the real gain in doing that? I do OC for some years now but I've been always afraid to up that thing... won't it risk damaging the PCI-E port?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sobek
More bandwidth to your videocards I suppose. Me? I'm just doing it because Crossfire is so utterly broken on this motherboard that I'm running out of things to change. Quite frankly, I'm reaching a point where a screwdriver through the NB is looking mighty pleasing. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
On another forum, I saw somebody who everytime he changed the mobo overclocked PCI-E to 118MHz no matter what mobo chipset was (but it was on nvidia VGA). :)
118?!! yikes!! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
I have everything on stock voltages except vcore and vdimm. So far I don't need to give this more juice at least until an official BIOS revision comes out from Gigabyte. Next week I'm installing a new HD3870 and will check if the same settings will work with the new card, since it's PCI-E 2.0.
I'm also upgrading to a PCP&C 750 from an ENERMAX 500 after some user inputs read here. Seems that DQ6 likes stronger PSUs better.
If I'm not completely mistaken, I have already seen some 130+ MHz on the PCIe-bus. Of course not for 24/7 use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
This is a limitation in the x86 32bit architecture. No process running in 32bit mode can ever allocate more than 2048mb ram. There are ways of making winxp "see" more than 2048mb, but it wont matter much since whatever process you have that requires more, simple wont be able to use it. The memory-limitations of x86-32 is one of the big reasons to move to a 64bit OS. Really there is no reason not to use windows xp pro 64bit on these systems, since driveravailability and maturity is very good these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
ok maybe are ddr3...id take another one x38t dq6 and i've try to flash f3h and f5j...and then ive a lot of problem..its possible that the problem are ddr3 supertalent?? ive these:
Supertalent 2x1GB DDR3 1333 9-9-9-27
maybe the motherboard after flash set it to 1066 and these dont support it..is it possible?
thanks for your reply regarding ram.
i need more than 2gig for multiple individual progs that i use at the same time .
virtual musical instruments sequencers and mixers ..all of which are stand alone programs. they divore memory. i would love to go xp64 but many of these can only be run in xp32
at the mome i get about 1500mb (windows eats the 500mb) i heard of this boot configuration that alows xp to see 3gigs..might give it a try on a test partition.
also i have a couple sticks of 667mhz ram, i might mix them with my dominator 1066 pc-8500 (clock them all down to 667 and see if 4 modules helps)
i sooo envy you guys on 64bits with water cooling :( haha :) peace
In the X35-DQ6 forum, there is talk about vdrop, (not vdroop), where the voltage set in the bios is not what the MB actually gets.
Is this an issue of the bios, the board, or what?
Does someone have a link that explains this?
Is it present on the X-38-DQ6 too?
Something to worry about?
Or am I showing excessive n00biness? :confused:
I don't think there is a vdropless mainboard. It happens because the stabilizers from the mobo doesn't give enough amperage to the CPU, or the PSU doesn't have enough amperage to pump to the CPU, when overclocked. There are not perfect Power stabilisers for such lower voltages for the CPU...
its possibel to get "stable" voltages, the vdroop is a safty feature intel specifices for all its motherboards since the P4. It has nothing to do with a bad PSU or bad VRMs.
anandtech has a good explanation why vdroop is important (page 5,6):
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=5
Yes Hornet331, Asus have had an answer about it for a long time on their site.
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx...Language=en-us
I remember reading it when i had a P5B-Deluxe.
Lets refraze :). A Voltage regulator gives a constant current. But the resistance of the CPU goes UP when is in full load, and because of it, the voltage must go UP too (U=I*R), but ... it's not rising fast enough when oveclocking. Why ? thats a lot to write of :)
Because of that, the voltage of the CPU must be set higher when overclocking, and then under full load of the cpu Voltage drops to compensate the current needed (thats why is called Vdrop :) ). Very simple explained but is more complex involving also the PSU, but not getting in details about that.
One solution is to rise the current when oveclocking, or to make a voltage-current regulator (a little bit harder to produce, and more expensive than a simple Voltage one).
So untill then, we are stuck with voltage regulators and that what is happening.
uhn who cares about Vdrop?
if you set eg. 1,325 and get 1,30 who cares?
what really is important is the drop while the cpu is under load and thats vdroop. Asus provides working LLC solution and idel voltage is nearly the same as load voltage (most boards with working LLC have a fluctiation of 0,01).
Gigabytes LLC = broken or at least what im hearing is, that it only works with voltages above 1,5V...
Thanks for the information and the links.
This forum is very useful. Many thanks to the contributors, and happy new year. :up:
Hornet331 You are wrong. It works on Gigabyte only till a certain frequecy, and now they implemented some tweaks in bios. Have to test them a little. :)
Asus upseted me big time with a stupid mobo, and still has vdrops also. On that mobo could not oveclock at all, and the memoryes I have now gave me lots of errors :(.
I'll wait to buy a quad, and test more the old mb and maybe RMA.