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10-21-2009, 02:18 PM
douirc

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTravis

First run @4.0Ghz @1.25V ain't bad don't you think?

not bad but not great. i'm running 4.2ghz @ 1.288 and I don't have as good as a chip as a lot of others in this thread. i'm sure you'll hit 4.2-4.4, just with a lot of extra voltage.

and as for the qx vs q, i would def agree the Q's are a much better choice, even if you did only pay $200 for the Qx. the Q's have a much better track record for awesome oc's.
10-21-2009, 03:27 PM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by douirc

not bad but not great. i'm running 4.2ghz @ 1.288 and I don't have as good as a chip as a lot of others in this thread. i'm sure you'll hit 4.2-4.4, just with a lot of extra voltage.

and as for the qx vs q, i would def agree the Q's are a much better choice, even if you did only pay $200 for the Qx. the Q's have a much better track record for awesome oc's.

Just curious what's the max you guys can do with the Q9650? Regardless I still consider it's a good investment since I upgraded from a E8400 and paid only $100 for it after I sold my E8400.
10-21-2009, 05:38 PM
Hoss331

Are you asking for max stable or max speed?
10-22-2009, 12:49 AM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

Are you asking for max stable or max speed?

For both. :D By the way I think I have trouble with temp for the QX9650, I'm using a TRUE with a CM R4 for push and Ultra Kaze 2kRPM for pull and my idle temp is around 42 for all cores. Considering I'm using a CM Centurion 5 so I might not have good air flow but I expect a lower temp than that, especially I switch from the Zalman CNPS9700 and the TRUE only gives me 1-2C better. :confused:
10-22-2009, 02:08 AM
MrDucky

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTravis

Since when the Q9550 is better than the QX9650? I still need to swap the CPU cooler tomorrow and see how far I can go with this chip this weekend. First run @4.0Ghz @1.25V ain't bad don't you think?

Wel since my Q9550 does 4.0GHz @ 1.216V ?? its just my mobo DFI Lanparty DK P45-T2RS+ that i cant run higher it doesnt like the half multi on high fsb.... but thats at 500FSB x 8 if i do 470 x 8.5 its like 1.18V so i liked a Q9650 now with its 9 Multi :P
10-22-2009, 03:23 PM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDucky

Wel since my Q9550 does 4.0GHz @ 1.216V ?? its just my mobo DFI Lanparty DK P45-T2RS+ that i cant run higher it doesnt like the half multi on high fsb.... but thats at 500FSB x 8 if i do 470 x 8.5 its like 1.18V so i liked a Q9650 now with its 9 Multi :P

And is that LinX or Prime95 stable? If so then it's a pretty darn great chip you got there. Just did a quick run and found out I need more than 1.3 to get it stable so yeh, it ain't that great but well, I'm still happy regardless. Just one thing concern is the temp, idle at 42 for all cores is that normal?
LinX stress it to 100% load and my temps rocket to 85-90 while with OCCT, same 100% load but my temps never reach above 70C. :confused:
10-22-2009, 05:32 PM
Hoss331

42 does seem a little high for idle but what is your ambient temp? Is yours a C0 or C1?
10-22-2009, 06:23 PM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

42 does seem a little high for idle but what is your ambient temp? Is yours a C0 or C1?

It's a C0, ambient temp is around 25C.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7255/img0446s.jpg

I reseat the heatsink and still same result, I guess it's just the way it is.
10-23-2009, 01:24 AM
CryptiK

1.3v+ sounds about right for a C0 @ 4GHz. There are examples that need even more than that. Linx will create higher load temps than any other program will in my experience.
10-23-2009, 06:13 PM
Triton

I've been "anti F10 beta" bioses for UD3P, coz they make 2.40B mem mutli go nuts.. wth I thought last night, I really want more CPU MHz, not mem mhz...so, flashed to F10f, to test cpu oc with mem, fsb x 2

4230MHz / 1128MHz mem was with F9 BIOS, this is abs max with 1.381vcore BIOS, 1.344v cpuz

currently testing (2 hr L4D online play) 4302MHz/956Mhz, 1.393v BIOS, 1.36v cpuz

Ive lapped the TRUE Black.....they probably made it concave in factory?...

I've also lapped the Q9650, this didnt do more than 1C maybe...HSF did most...still dont regret lapping both.
10-23-2009, 07:03 PM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

1.3v+ sounds about right for a C0 @ 4GHz. There are examples that need even more than that. Linx will create higher load temps than any other program will in my experience.

Well turns out it needs more than 1.4V to be stable @4.0Ghz, it appears to be normal as I compare to others. Definitely not a good chip but as long as I can hit 4.0Ghz stable then I'll be happy. Btw you guys have any suggestion for doing higher multi lower FSB or the other way around would be better?
So far I tried both 12x334 and 10x400 and I don't see any differences.
10-24-2009, 05:01 AM
MrDucky

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTravis

Well turns out it needs more than 1.4V to be stable @4.0Ghz, it appears to be normal as I compare to others. Definitely not a good chip but as long as I can hit 4.0Ghz stable then I'll be happy. Btw you guys have any suggestion for doing higher multi lower FSB or the other way around would be better?
So far I tried both 12x334 and 10x400 and I don't see any differences.

What fsb u use try like 9x450. with a lower multi and higher FSB your ram Can reach higher speed at a 1:1 Divider so your ram could be at 1GHz 1:1 Divider its a lot faster on the same timings then like 800MHz. Second if the FSB is higher your northbridge can handle more data. Try highering the PLL till 1.6 your safe i guess whats your northbridge voltage make it like 1.35 thats what i need for 500FSB stable. third your VTT Whats your VTT Voltage you can try highering that to i never gone above 1.35 thats my safe limit for 24/7.

O and about my Q9550 its Prime 95 Stable and LINX :+ i realy got a damm good chip idle with Vdrop in windows on stock it gets to 0.988 Volts!
10-25-2009, 12:56 AM
rurik

Now 4Ghz at 24/7 rock stable!

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/87vc3DfUSS.png

and some benchis

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/TTKj3V1pky.png
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/zUP3wZlpwI.png
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/N3pTp2A1jP.png
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/FEYSZ8i3YW.png

temps at Linx not more,than 80C,at Prime95 not more,than 65C.
Rampage Extreme is great mobo!
10-25-2009, 01:06 AM
CryptiK

rurik - Good work. On my Rampage Extreme I could get Linx max mem stable at 467 - 480 FSB rather easily too, however Prime Large FFT's was very hard by comparison.

Can you post a Large FFT screen (at least 2 hours)? I'd be interested to see if you can get it stable at those settings.
10-25-2009, 03:24 AM
rurik

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

rurik - Good work. On my Rampage Extreme I could get Linx max mem stable at 467 - 480 FSB rather easily too, however Prime Large FFT's was very hard by comparison.

Can you post a Large FFT screen (at least 2 hours)? I'd be interested to see if you can get it stable at those settings.

damn,I again in wrong thread:D
but CryptiK,The test is spent 1.5 hours, I will a little more wait and I will make screen :up:
10-25-2009, 03:56 AM
CryptiK

Nice, cheers. Also whats your settings for PL, vNB, CPU/NB skews?
10-25-2009, 04:21 AM
rurik

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091025/WUUSJaXSh9.png

Still running...
about settings: Pl 8,lighter,vNB - 1.521V(monitoring),CPU/NB skews -all Auto
10-26-2009, 11:21 AM
radaja

mines here.:D and its a good one.
fired it up using my old settings for
my other Q9650,adjusted the vcore
and got this.:D
9x500@4500 w1.37v ddr1200MHz
http://i34.tinypic.com/33aa3k5.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2wg669h.jpg

voltage settings

Code:

>>> CPU Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled] CPU Vcore..............1.23750V........: [1.406v] CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.36v] CPU PLL................1.500V............: [1.57v] CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.886] >>> MCH/ICH MCH Core...............1.100V............: [1.40v] MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.901] MCH/DRAM Reference...0.900V.....: [norm] ICH I/O................1.500V...............: [norm] ICH Core...............1.100V.............: [norm] >>> DRAM DRAM Voltage...........1.800V...........: [2.20v] DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [norm] Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [norm] Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [norm]
10-27-2009, 01:57 PM
nilo123

Q9650@4.05GHz

Unfortunately, I can only do OC to my CPU from middle of October till middle of May due to higher ambient temps on Summer time.

I live in Portugal.

Nowadays, ambient temp is roundly 20ºC, which allows me to do some OC.

So, here are my OC settings that I set in BIOS (version F8):

MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
Robust Graphics Booster : Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio : 9
CPU Host Clock Control : Enabled
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz) : 450
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) : 105
C.I.A.2 : Disabled
Performance Enhance : Standard
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) : 2.40B
Memory Frequency(Mhz) : 1080
DRAM Timing Selectable : Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time : 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# : 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge : 5
Precharge Delay(tRAS) : 15

Advanced Timing Control
ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) : Auto
Rank Write to READ Delay : Auto
Write To Precharge Delay : Auto
Refresh to ACT Delay : 65
Read To Precharge Delay : Auto
tRD : Auto
tRD Phase Adjustment : Auto
Command to #CS Timing: 2T

Clock Driving and Skew Control
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control : 700 mV
CPU Clock Skew Control : Normal
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control : Normal

System Voltage Control : Manual
DDR2 OverVoltage Control : +0.40V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control : Normal
FSB OverVoltage Control : +0.2V
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control : +0.175V
MCH Reference Voltage Control : Normal
DDR Reference Voltage Control : Normal
DDR Termination Voltage Control : Normal
CPU GTLREF1 Voltage* : -3,0%
CPU GTLREF2 Voltage* : -3,0%
Loadline Calibration: Enable
CPU Voltage Control : 1.41875V
Normal CPU Vcore : 1.225V

Advanced Bios Features
CPU Multi-Threading : n/a
Limit CPUID Max to 3: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE): Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2: Enabled
CPU EIST Function: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled

***

My idle temps on CPU cores are as follows:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/983...0idletemps.jpg

I can run Prime95 25.11 stably with the above BIOS settings with the following temps:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6389/q9650load.jpg

The problem is that I cannot lower my CPU vcore below 1.41875V, because my rig becomes unstable in P95, and with this CPU vcore, my CPU core temps are too much higher.

I know it's a dilemma!!!

So I need your suggestions to help me to fine my BIOS settings.

I'd like to keep my OC @ 4.05GHz with lower temps on cores and also lowering my CPU vcore!!!

Cheers!!!
10-28-2009, 11:07 PM
nilo123

anyone helps, plz???

:shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug:
10-29-2009, 03:09 AM
CryptiK

That is a lot of vcore for 4GHz, no wonder your temps are so high. Perhaps raise CPU Clock Driving Control to 800 - 900mV, it may help. Wait for someone who owns a UD3P to help you though, as I can only make general suggestions. I'd also suggest going back to say 3.6GHz, finding the minimums required for all voltages, and working your way up from there.
10-29-2009, 04:07 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

That is a lot of vcore for 4GHz, no wonder your temps are so high. Perhaps raise CPU Clock Driving Control to 800 - 900mV, it may help. Wait for someone who owns a UD3P to help you though, as I can only make general suggestions. I'd also suggest going back to say 3.6GHz, finding the minimums required for all voltages, and working your way up from there.

Cryptik he got a DQ6 with no LLC not an UD3P maybe the one that can help him is OC nub that has one but P45.

Cheers mate :up:
Sergio
10-29-2009, 11:46 AM
nilo123

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

That is a lot of vcore for 4GHz, no wonder your temps are so high. Perhaps raise CPU Clock Driving Control to 800 - 900mV, it may help. Wait for someone who owns a UD3P to help you though, as I can only make general suggestions. I'd also suggest going back to say 3.6GHz, finding the minimums required for all voltages, and working your way up from there.

Thanks, m8

I'll try 3.6Ghz as u suggest!!!

Other question: To test my OC's, I use P95, running Blend test for 8 hours, which I think is too much time to try the different settings in BIOS!!!

What other progs could I use to test my OC's???

Or what methods in P95 can I use to test???
10-29-2009, 01:03 PM
Zeus

Wow, these CPU's seem to overclock almost as good as an E8600 but with 2 extra cores! Shame they won't do any ground shattering FSB in a X48 chipset based board.

Very nice overclocks guys! :up:
10-29-2009, 05:11 PM
OC Nub

On the P45 DQ6 I needed to set the advanced clock control to 1000/1000/0/0 to get stable above 4ghz on good vcore. Different chipset so may not work for the x38.

Have been taking a break from overclocking and PC stuff for a couple weeks. Will get back into it soon I hope, a lot going on at home.

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