The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

yep.
Let me tell my latest news.If i reduce from 400mhz to 333mhz i booted up at 280mhz and the windows works.If i put the same fsb with a memory at 400mhz no bootup.Now from 1810 i get 2520mhz.is a pretty good deal.
Bios settings
V core: 1.57-1.60 (10% max value setted) ..If anyone know how to increase it more and to work will be apreciated
Memory Voltage: 3.25-3.3
280x9.0
memory setted at 166x2.
the rest of settings like cool n quite, spread spectrum, dynamic oc, agressive timming, Nv/Ati speedup etc are disable.
Any more suggestion will be apreciated.now i get from the same friend a Kingmax 512mb stick that can support 400/433 to try more..

for all this i put cap and say that games are freezing...so it's pretty uselless.The proc do not go over 40 celsius so the temp is not a problemm...damn

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Originally Posted by el rolio

sinister, im sorry, but i gotta go OT to let you kno that your avatar is frikken awesome and i want the rest of it for my wall paper.

reminds me of girls back home. sigh, cant find much of that here in the midwest (boo)

uhm back on topic.... NEO2 ROCKS!?

ps: is runnin 1.52-55v for my 250x10 OC good(on a winnie)? i always believe that high oc's with little voltage is where the pride's at...

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Here you can use it for Wpaper buy you might want to fix it up with photoshop a little. http://img279.imageshack.us/my.php?i...stcoast7uq.jpg

Hows your audigy zs running on this board? Any problems? Im thinking of getting a sound card other that onboard for this neo2.

I have a Teratec Aureon 7.1 space..No problems..My friend have a Sblive 5.1 if you wanna i will ask if he had any problems.But after kt133 and their onboard audio there are no more problems with sound cards after that chipset..They learned from their mistakes
maybe some ppl have money for this...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/memory/254/4/ :stick: :stick: :stick: shooot me coz i can't aford them

just got this mobo(AGP) have a dual core 4400+ that needs 1.6 to reach 2.6GHz

1.6V is the max i can get from this board i notice with bios modded bioses you can trick MSI core center and push it to 1.75v

right now is doing prime one on each core temp 52C Ram running @ dividers 183 /522MHZ 9*289 HT 3 voltage 1.6 :D wish it had clock higher maybe ill send her back get me 3700+ sandi and run it @ 4000+ speeds

hey the card runs great on it man, no probs at all. like the other dude said it jsut works and how.

thanks for hte linkin the pic. i was hopin for more of the girl, maybe some long slightly wavy brunette hair.... the lil wife beater top, oh well. hahah

Audigy 2 ZS works a treat :D

I hate msi software..When you choose voltages the valued displayed is 0.10 higher than the efective value after you changed it..i had two msi boards.Same problem.If i choose 1.75V the actual stuff is 1.65V..

I,ve been following this post for a while now, and have gleened much usefull information from it. Thanx to all :toast:
With the system I have, my best settings are:
11x244 1:1 2T 2.5,3,3,8 vdimm2.85 CPU1.45@10% HTx3

That's the best I can do with 4x 512, but with just one stick in it's a whole nother story. But...I want the memory for some games that are real hogs, and this setup runs e'm sweet.
Thanx again for all the great tips! :woot:

Creeper(aka Three Crows)

To resume my findings

As a probably best AGP motherboard for OC it still has too much drownings for me.

1. can't OC 6800GT w/o sporadical freezeing (NF3 + 6800GT :down: )
2. pctv vision has delayed video in full screen (seems to me that NF3 + pctv :down: )
3. very stupid place for CMOS reset jumper
4. hdd, floppy and MB power connectors in front of hyper 6 blower

can't OC 6800GT w/o sporadical freezeing

once again people this has nothing to do with the NF3 system, its just the way the MF3 system handles the fact that your overclocking your card furhter than what it can handle.
throw that card on any other system and it will lock up too or your system will just flat out reboot.
My pci-e GT is a piece of crap overclocker 400/1000 is the best it will do and if i got to 410 it will lock up also.

this has nothing to do with the nf3.. period. its already been proven and layed out that cards that do this are 1) pushed to far or 2) have really crappy memory and they cant handle the overclock, the 6800GT's have been plagued with bad memory chips since they came out AGP and PCI-E both do it.

hyper 6 blower isnt the mobo's fault its the people who made the HSF

yes VERY VERY stupid place for cmos jumper but do what i did.
i took a zip tie, and the pointed end i shoved in the Jumper so that it sticks and then i just grab that to pull off and on the jumper, I also took a solid piece of plastic and super glued it to a jumper so that i can push on the jumper and the plastic doesnt flex, which is what happens with the ziptie.
just make it long enough so that it sticks way out so you can grab it. there wasnt that easy ? and didnt take a brain scientist to figure out, cuz god knows im far from that!

again PCTV is the problem not the NF3 go get a decent TV tuner PCTV is old and cheap go get a good one and maybe you wont have that issue

My GT OC depends on what BIOS I'm using.

Anything from 1.36 to 1.9 it will do 405/1110. (Because I modded my GPU BIOS to 1.4v)
But with 1.A or 1.B it won't even do 375 on the core.
And with these 2 BIOS's even at stock clocks games are not playable, its like the textures have trouble loading or something, when ever a new level is loaded or something big happens in the game i get quick hitching and :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty FPS.

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Well just installed the 77.77 nvidia drivers and with 1.B Ballistix bios with card at 435mhz core and 1105 mhz memory and 1.33 volts i get 5930 in 3d mark 2005.

My card clocks better at lower volts than higher. 1.4 volts clocked worse. Not a heat issue though card fully loads at 56 degrees.

3dMark2005 score

If anyone wants to try my 6800 GT bios let me know and ill email it to you. Its a Leadtek bios 6800 GT 256mb version 5.40.02.26.00. No stutters or freezes on my NEO 2.

- Edit i've released my bios file its at my website. Its been slightly modded by me. Tested by me to be working fine. Still can be risky though but maybe no more so than flashing a motherboard.

read this Thread http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7215
my 6800 GT is on the GTU13 bios 435/1165 mhz

GTU13 bios = 1.3 volts http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...3&page=2&pp=30 post 42

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Originally Posted by Paradigma

To resume my findings

As a probably best AGP motherboard for OC it still has too much drownings for me.

1. can't OC 6800GT w/o sporadical freezeing (NF3 + 6800GT :down: )
2. pctv vision has delayed video in full screen (seems to me that NF3 + pctv :down: )
3. very stupid place for CMOS reset jumper
4. hdd, floppy and MB power connectors in front of hyper 6 blower

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This picture is from a old thread here but i cant find it, basicly a clear cmos switch made from a 3 pin fan connector and a simple switch...... i also made one (not nice as this one) and it works great..... i almost lost it somwhere since i didnt use for a long time but now with Neo2 it came in really handy. I used a ON/OFF Switch from a cheep toy and just soldered it to the 3 wires (jost got to make sure that the middle pin goes to the middle connector on the switch and the other 2 dont matter)

ps: Paradigma pozdrav iz BGDa

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Originally Posted by Lestat

can't OC 6800GT w/o sporadical freezeing

once again people this has nothing to do with the NF3 system, its just the way the MF3 system handles the fact that your overclocking your card furhter than what it can handle.
throw that card on any other system and it will lock up too or your system will just flat out reboot.
My pci-e GT is a piece of crap overclocker 400/1000 is the best it will do and if i got to 410 it will lock up also.

this has nothing to do with the nf3.. period. its already been proven and layed out that cards that do this are 1) pushed to far or 2) have really crappy memory and they cant handle the overclock, the 6800GT's have been plagued with bad memory chips since they came out AGP and PCI-E both do it.

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On my Abit KV8 Pro (Via K8T800 Pro) this very card works perfectly. 400/1200 w/o artifact, with artifact 435/1335 (stok air cooling). So this particular card is over average.

http://users.vtkom.net/~benchmark/html/gf6800.05.htm

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Originally Posted by Lestat

hyper 6 blower isnt the mobo's fault its the people who made the HSF

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Offcourse, but layout is inconvinient to me. For instance Abit AV8 has much better layout.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

yes VERY VERY stupid place for cmos jumper but do what i did.
i took a zip tie, and the pointed end i shoved in the Jumper so that it sticks and then i just grab that to pull off and on the jumper, I also took a solid piece of plastic and super glued it to a jumper so that i can push on the jumper and the plastic doesnt flex, which is what happens with the ziptie.
just make it long enough so that it sticks way out so you can grab it. there wasnt that easy ? and didnt take a brain scientist to figure out, cuz god knows im far from that!

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I already solved this problem with the jumper from Abit AV8 which is long enough to reach it, even from the top of my SB Live! which occupy last PCI slot.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

again PCTV is the problem not the NF3 go get a decent TV tuner PCTV is old and cheap go get a good one and maybe you wont have that issue

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That same PCTV Pro works great with Abit AV8 (VIA K8T800 Pro), so that gives me the right to blame NF3 chipset for having this problem. PCTV is far from ideal but the situation with other TV tuner cards isn't pink too.

Howdy! I've been running my 6800 BFG GT OC @ 440/1600 using a modified ultra bios with no problems. If I can remember where I got the bios I'll post the link.

Creeper

Whats all this about mouse/keyboard being disabled?

I have just upgraded my system (using a neo2 Plat) with a 4400+ x2 and other various bit & pieces and obviously i had to flash to the latest bios for cpu support.. the only problem is I CAN'T DO ANYTHING because the damn keyboard dosen't work.

With both ps/2 and usb keyboards i get the following message at the POST screen:

keyboard error or no keyboard present
keyboard is locked out - unlock the key

How do i fix this? My case dosent even have a keylock so what do i do?

Please reply before the GF gets home :p:

Thanks guys

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Originally Posted by VaCreeper

Howdy! I've been running my 6800 BFG GT OC @ 440/1600 using a modified ultra bios with no problems. If I can remember where I got the bios I'll post the link.

Creeper

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ooo i wanty wanty

Downloaded your ballistix bios SIDEFFECT (yes i own 2gigs :))

But still no keyboard.

How do i enable it? If in involves another bios flash, which one can i use with my x2??

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Originally Posted by VaCreeper

Howdy! I've been running my 6800 BFG GT OC @ 440/1600 using a modified ultra bios with no problems. If I can remember where I got the bios I'll post the link.

Creeper

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Why dont you get the bios off of the card :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ZeroSanity

Downloaded your ballistix bios SIDEFFECT (yes i own 2gigs :))

But still no keyboard.

How do i enable it? If in involves another bios flash, which one can i use with my x2??

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You have a USB keyboard i guess? Dont you have a ps2 keyboard you can connect then go into bios setup then enable usb mouse support then save then plug usb keyboard in and take ps2 keyboard out.

If you dont have a ps2 keyboard to do that ill make you a bios with it enabled by default.

Hey thanks for the help, i have both a usb and a ps/2 keyboard but i get the same post error with both.

Any ideas? Perhaps that bios mod would still help?

Maybe my ps/2 port is borked

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Originally Posted by ZeroSanity

Hey thanks for the help, i have both a usb and a ps/2 keyboard but i get the same post error with both.

Any ideas? Perhaps that bios mod would still help?

Maybe my ps/2 port is borked

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Ok well its strange it wont work with a ps2 keyboard. I made a mod with usb mouse and keyboard support by default. You can download it in the thread you made at my site.

ZERO SANITY you can try and use your ps/2 keyboard and ENABLE usb k/b storage support in bios 1.b, even if you are not using usb and dont let it quickboot let it do a full read and see if that works. Let me know if it works because i cant go into my bios without a full shutdown UNLESS i have usb k/b storage enabled with my ps/2 keyboard. I want to know if this bug is common ive seen it pop up quite a few times at msi forums and i think MILYONS had the same problem. With usb enabled with non usb keyboard everything is fine on my pc. I also seen people having issues with usb 2 in bios 1.9 but all my usb 2.0 worked fine with it and i have never seen any of the other errors people have gotton in any of the latest bioses (except 1.A official i didnt even bother) So strange how people use the same exact bios and get different errors. I flashed 3 times the official bios 1.b and i know for a fact it wasnt a bad flash everytime it has to be a bug with the usb keyboard being enabled/disabled. Or maybe it could just be my keyboard but it is an issue that has happend to more than a few people ive seen floating around on the net.

I cannot use my ps/2 keyboard atall! when i took the heatsink off earlyer to move the ram the cpu was stuck to the heatsink and it had just ripped right out of the socket. Everything looks ok and i ceaned all the paste away but now after putting it back and clearing the cmos it wont boot atall.. no monitor atall for any amount of time.. the cpu looks fine but i have no idea what has gone wrong. Also for some reason when i turn on the power switch on the back of the psu the pc turns itself on without me having to press the power button on the case. Which wasnt happeing before.

Any ideas? Faulty mobo? or death of a brand new cpu?