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08-19-2009, 01:49 AM
leo27

thanks a-grey i'll give it a shot later in the week

Did you end up getting your ram to run higher than 1200mhz, and whats your final thoughts on bios 902?
08-19-2009, 02:02 AM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo27

thanks a-grey i'll give it a shot later in the week

Did you end up getting your ram to run higher than 1200mhz, and whats your final thoughts on bios 902?

Yes, I did. It runs fine at DDR 1239MHz with 1.9V. I'll try to run my Q9650 at 9 X 465MHz later to see if I can get it to run stable with DDR 1239MHz and tRD 6 or tRD 7 and all Phase pull-ins enabled.
08-19-2009, 03:17 AM
leo27

is there any benefit going to bios 902 from 803??
08-19-2009, 03:57 AM
kuebk

I don't think so.

EDIT: A-Grey what mch voltage do you need to stabilize 400fsb, 600mem 5-5-5-15 trd6? Could you please check it for me? Looks like I need 1.45v what looks pretty much for me.
08-20-2009, 07:59 AM
Armored_Kech1

Has anyone tried removing the ROG logo from the stock SB heatsink? Is it even possible? It looks like it's severely hindering the SB's heat dissipation.
08-20-2009, 08:26 AM
ShArKo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1

Has anyone tried removing the ROG logo from the stock SB heatsink? Is it even possible? It looks like it's severely hindering the SB's heat dissipation.

I do, Is easy to remove, but you must do it with a hear dryer (be carefull) and pull from the heatsink.

This you must do with hold headsink out from the motherboard.
08-20-2009, 12:39 PM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo27

is there any benefit going to bios 902 from 803??

Only if you need DDR 1200MHz+ and tRD 6.

I've been running for moths now with BIOS 0902 and everything runs perfectly stable.
08-20-2009, 12:54 PM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuebk

EDIT: A-Grey what mch voltage do you need to stabilize 400fsb, 600mem 5-5-5-15 trd6? Could you please check it for me? Looks like I need 1.45v what looks pretty much for me.

I've been running a few tests and I didn't need more voltage on the MCH to run LinX for a few passes stable.

I did a test with CPU Clock Skew Delayed 200ps and NB Clock Skew Delayed 100ps. It stayed stable but there was no need to dial in a delay.

I tryed with CPU Clock Skew and NB Clock Skew on Auto and everything was running smooth.

I have to say that I only did 3 passes in LinX but I think it should be enough to see if it's really possible with lower voltage.

The 266MHz strap isn't the problem. It must be something else. Perhaps your MCH temp is to high (my MCH temp was 34° Celsius during the test) or you need that high voltage to keep your memory stable at 1200MHz.

You could try with your memory running at default speed and see if that would help to keep it stable with lower voltage. When that doesn't work try to find a way to lower the MCH temp to see if that's the problem.
08-20-2009, 11:34 PM
Armored_Kech1

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShArKo

I do, Is easy to remove, but you must do it with a hear dryer (be carefull) and pull from the heatsink.

This you must do with hold headsink out from the motherboard.

So if I understand correctly the only way to safely remove the ROG logo is with the heatsink removed from the motherboard? My UD3P's NB plate came off with just a screw driver because it only uses double sided tape.
08-21-2009, 02:51 AM
kuebk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1

So if I understand correctly the only way to safely remove the ROG logo is with the heatsink removed from the motherboard? My UD3P's NB plate came off with just a screw driver because it only uses double sided tape.

This should too, haven't tried myself but afair someone already done this that way.
08-21-2009, 03:33 AM
ShArKo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored_Kech1

So if I understand correctly the only way to safely remove the ROG logo is with the heatsink removed from the motherboard? My UD3P's NB plate came off with just a screw driver because it only uses double sided tape.

You can do it with the heatsink on.........but do it at your own risk...
The think is, that logo is very "glue" to the rest of the heatsink, so if you force the logo to take it off you can break something (like the SB of NB)...

Good Luck!!!:up:
08-21-2009, 04:24 AM
Armored_Kech1

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuebk

This should too, haven't tried myself but afair someone already done this that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShArKo

You can do it with the heatsink on.........but do it at your own risk...
The think is, that logo is very "glue" to the rest of the heatsink, so if you force the logo to take it off you can break something (like the SB of NB)...

Good Luck!!!:up:

Alright, thanks. :)
08-21-2009, 08:53 AM
hutkikz

I've removed 2 of them with a screwdriver no problem at all.:up:
08-21-2009, 10:56 PM
leo27

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo27

i've been reading this forum ever since i got my rampage formula, finally i can post after a few registration issues.

my rig is:
Antec P182
asus rampage formula x48 Bios 803
q6600 G0 @ 3.4Ghz
Gskill F2-6400CL4-2GBPI-B @850Mhz
TRUE with 2 noctua P12 Push/Pull

my settings (25 Linx 64-bit stable, Prime95 small and large fft's stable)

*Extreme Tweaker*
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [08.0]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400]
FSB Frequency [425]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Frequency [DDR2-850MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal A [Greyed Out]
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal B [Greyed Out]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal A [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal B [Auto]

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
1st Information
CAS# Latency [4]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# PRE Time [3]
RAS# ACT Time [9]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [3]
REF Cycle Time [40]
WRITE Recovery Time [6]
READ to PRE Time [3]
2nd Information
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D) [7]
WRITE to READ Delay (S) [3]
WRITE to READ Delay (D) [4]
READ to READ Delay (S) [4]
READ to READ Delay (D) [5]
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) [4]
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) [5]
3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay [12]
READ to PRE Delay [3]
PRE to PRE Delay [1]
ALL PRE to ACT Delay [4]
ALL PRE to REF Delay [4]

DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Stronger]
Ai Transaction Booster [08]
Pull-in of CHA PH1 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHA PH2 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHA PH3 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHA PH4 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHB PH1 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHB PH2 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHB PH3 [Enabled]
Pull-in of CHB PH4 [Enabled]

CPU Voltage [1.41250v] (1.4V in windows)
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50v]
North Bridge Voltage [1.37v]
DRAM Voltage [1.84v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.32v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.05v]
SB 1,5V Voltage [1.50v]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.65x]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67x]
DRAM Controller Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF [AUTO]
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF [AUTO]

CPU LED Selection [CPU Voltage]
NB LED Selection [North Bridge Voltage]
SB LED Selection [South Bridge Voltage]
Voltiminder LED [Enabled]

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spred Spectrum [Disabled]
Cpu Clock Skew [Delay 200ps]
NB Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]

Now i have run into a problem in that i was unable to reduce the memory timings (4-4-4-12 at 1.92V in bios) with a PL7, however if i run PL8 with all phase pull-ins as above then i can achieve the timings and voltage shown in the settings above (4-4-3-9 at 1.84V).

I take it PL8 with all Pull-ins is equivalent to PL7?????

to A-GREY
I've read that you use UT2004 to determine the FSB termination voltage. What settings do you use in UT2004????
and do you run it with Prime95 small fft's or large fft's????
an explanation of the procedure would be appreciated.

Lastly is a CPU GTL of 0.65x recommended for a 65nm processor or is 0.63x advised.

Thanks for your help and keeping up with this thread. It is a invaluable resource for overclocking this board.

I've just been testing out my system with UT2004+P95 in blend and the problem i have is that P95 keeps failing.

As you can see above i am stable for 5hrs on large ffts and 5hrs on small fft's as well as 25 passes of linx. I should also say that the memory has passed 8 tests of Memtest86+ test no5 as well as 400% of HCI memtest.

i have tried increasing the FSB termination.
1.30V lasted 5hrs
1.32V lasted about 2hrs
1.34V lasted about 2hrs

after seeing this i decided to try lowering FSB termination to see if higher wasn't better

1.26V lasted 1hr

I would appreciate any advice as to what is causing the instability with P95 and UT2004 or do i just need to play with FSBterm some more????
08-22-2009, 01:10 AM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo27

I've just been testing out my system with UT2004+P95 in blend and the problem i have is that P95 keeps failing.

As you can see above i am stable for 5hrs on large ffts and 5hrs on small fft's as well as 25 passes of linx. I should also say that the memory has passed 8 tests of Memtest86+ test no5 as well as 400% of HCI memtest.

i have tried increasing the FSB termination.
1.30V lasted 5hrs
1.32V lasted about 2hrs
1.34V lasted about 2hrs

after seeing this i decided to try lowering FSB termination to see if higher wasn't better

1.26V lasted 1hr

I would appreciate any advice as to what is causing the instability with P95 and UT2004 or do i just need to play with FSBterm some more????

If you lower the FSB termination Voltage you should check it first with LinX to see if that stays stable.

Where does it fail in Blend Mode? Is it Small or Large FFT's?
08-22-2009, 01:41 AM
leo27

this is the log for the test (P95 blend + UT2004 in 64-bit) with FSBterm at 1.34V (known stable in Linx)

[Sat Aug 22 13:36:16 2009]
Self-test 1024K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
[Sat Aug 22 13:53:18 2009]
Self-test 10K passed!
Self-test 10K passed!
Self-test 10K passed!
[Sat Aug 22 14:08:34 2009]
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
[Sat Aug 22 14:23:32 2009]
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Self-test 768K passed!
Self-test 768K passed!

I assume that means it failed in LargeFFt's
08-22-2009, 01:55 AM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo27

this is the log for the test (P95 blend + UT2004 in 64-bit) with FSBterm at 1.34V (known stable in Linx)

[Sat Aug 22 13:36:16 2009]
Self-test 1024K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
[Sat Aug 22 13:53:18 2009]
Self-test 10K passed!
Self-test 10K passed!
Self-test 10K passed!
[Sat Aug 22 14:08:34 2009]
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 8K passed!
[Sat Aug 22 14:23:32 2009]
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Self-test 768K passed!
Self-test 768K passed!

I assume that means it failed in LargeFFt's

Try with 1 step higher NB Voltage or Memory Voltage or both.

Edit: If all goes well I finish mine at 4.05GHz in a few hours.:D
08-22-2009, 02:35 AM
leo27

will do thanks A-grey, and thats awesome news hope it goes well
08-23-2009, 02:18 AM
leo27

Increasing the NB voltage by 1 step to 1.39V worked a treat. I'm stable now for 10hrs with FSB termination at 1.30V. When i have time i'll try to lower the FSB termination.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5484/p95ut2004jpg.th.jpg
08-23-2009, 04:00 AM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo27

Increasing the NB voltage by 1 step to 1.39V worked a treat. I'm stable now for 10hrs with FSB termination at 1.30V. When i have time i'll try to lower the FSB termination.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5484/p95ut2004jpg.th.jpg

Nice, good work.:up:
08-23-2009, 08:53 AM
kuebk

Can anyone confirm hr-09 + rampage formula compatybility list, link: http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa.../05-09-mcl.htm?
08-23-2009, 10:17 AM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuebk

Can anyone confirm hr-09 + rampage formula compatybility list, link: http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa.../05-09-mcl.htm?

The Thermalright Mosfet Coolers fit on the ASUS Rampage Formula. I have them on my board. You need a HR-09 U Type 2 and a HR-09 S Type 2.
08-23-2009, 10:29 AM
kuebk

A-Grey can you make a photo of how does it look mounted on mobo?
08-23-2009, 11:25 AM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuebk

A-Grey can you make a photo of how does it look mounted on mobo?

There are a few pictures of my system on the ASUS Rampage Formula forum. They aren't the best quality pictures but I don't have a good digital camera.

You can find them here: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...e=en-us&page=2
08-25-2009, 02:37 PM
kuebk

Is there any possibility to mod 802 bios so by default it would be setting the highest possible tREF (16k) instead of 3120?

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