CAS 2? not CAS 2.5?Quote:
Originally Posted by msimax
If so thats REALLY good, My G.Skill LE's wont break 215MHz @ CAS 2
Tho at 2.5-3-3-7 DDR550+ is average.
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CAS 2? not CAS 2.5?Quote:
Originally Posted by msimax
If so thats REALLY good, My G.Skill LE's wont break 215MHz @ CAS 2
Tho at 2.5-3-3-7 DDR550+ is average.
wow 112 pages.. I'm sure this is somewhere in this mess.. but what is about the norm for HTT out of this board?
I'm running 295 right now.. not sure if it's stable... asking too much of this board?
Yes I only changed the first xmod for him now he does it himself so its his bios. Better to remove my name so i dont get complaints about his bios. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by D3kMatrix
Its possible to replace the vga rom i could try and put the vga rom from 1.8 in the 1.B bios.
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Originally Posted by shmaa
its tough to say what the average is. but 295 is a great setting guy.
what are you running your cpu at ? and is 295 HTT 1:1 ? meaning your ram is also running 295 ?
my board has a max stable HTT of around 360~365 but i can boot into windows at 370 and do SOME benching.
but thats not 1:1 thats running my memory on a divider and the cpu is running 7x i believe.
so if your running 295 1:1 thats VERY good
Yes, I havn't see anyone with 295 sync, or 280 syn stable with a venice ... and finally I wait my dfi nf4 now ...
Good continuation on this mysterious neo2 ;)
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I have some pretty crappy mem atm... stuff I used in my old K7... so it's on a divider.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I have a pretty bum chip too... most I can get it D2OL stable at is around 2.55ghz at 1.6+ V on a XP90-C.... :(
woot woot the Ultra-D is here and tommorrow my 6800 GT PCI-E arrives.
ill be a busy boy this weekend. i doubt ill walk outside for anything lol.
10 - 1 you think its crap and moan about it by sunday :p:
hey what are you saying ?
if this board is crap then i am getting my money back and ill finally rma my neo2 and then give it to the ol lady and ill stay on my nice lappy for god knows how long
this is my last effort for a long time to get a good working system.
if it dont work then im done and taking a vacation from my desktop for a while
hey lestat was the redline that died closest to the booster.
the reason i ask is because any time i put my dead stick in and it works if i bend it a certain way it starts beeping on post. my theory is while i was running it at 3.7 plus that
heat from the booster it may loosened something on the stick . no lie i just started banging the stick on my desk and it boot no prob. test no errors, i wish i hadnt took heatspreader off no rma *note* redline uses special stickers that say void when remove if u do want to removed them use a blowdryer and peel slowly
no actually it was the one closest to the cpu that went first.
i never went above 3.6 on my redline. and that was only for a short time.
too bad too cuz the guy who had it before me ran it at 1.5-2-2-0 @ 265mhz @ 3.6v
alot of people had said that if you go to 1.5 with the redline it stablizes the ram somewhat at higher HTT so maybe check it out.
mine worked good for a few hours, or more like 1/2 an evening and then it started dieing on me.
Personally i say its a combination of the NEO2 and the Booster that kill the ram. or kill the ram slots. but i tried all ram slots and it was the same thing.
Its possible, sionce as i stated OCZ only rates the neo2 to 3.4v that we are hurting the mobo by pushing more into it and its actually killing the ram. but i doubt it im sure we would have heard about ons of people doing this.
i just think the UTT stuff like redline and ocz VX is so sensative that it dies easily
well im bumbed my video dont arrive till tommorrow... so im sitting with a system i cant use for an evening :(
Hi guys, what is the best bios to use with SD 3700 and tccd ram need the extra voltage and 183 divider. thanks in advance
Hi guys, glad to be back to xtremes
Since I moved I didn't have net for nearly 3 months. We'll see what we'll be able to do with new bioses :toast:
nice, WB :D
And no net for 3 months, ugh, that must of sucked.
Welcome back NFM :cool:
woohoo the man himself!
nice to see your back NFM wow who's your ISP that they didnt have I-Net out to you.
and SE im loving my ultra-d so far but you said by sunday so we'll wait and see.
cpu really isnt much more stable and it definately dont overclock any higher but Corsair XMS old school bh-5 is running 265 2-2-2-5 @ 3.5v and i havent tried higher yet
i think im gunna find a little 3000 or 3200 winnie for the g/f and rma the neo2 and let her have that.
so ill still be around to b|tch and complain :D
Im pleased that the cpu doesnt go any higher shows that the neo 2 doesnt have a problem with finding max cpu speeds or supplying a steady voltage etc.
Seems the 4 stage power setup that the dfi uses doesnt help cpu overclocking at all :p:
New BIOS on MSI.com
1.B, fixes USB 2 issue ;)
so guys, i want to talk to you bios builders to see if you can help me understand the issue with hte neo2 and mostly the vcore....
a lil backstory if ya dont mind: i got myself a storm kit and soem otehr stuff to watercool my machine, mostly for quietness. i been building it up in the kitchen away for my desk for like almost 2 weeks. so i figure use this time to burn in, and make sure all things are stable.. i was and chose to still run 250x10 as my 24/7 setup. never had any probs before but you know, fresh waterblock, fresh AS5, i figure some good burn in and stability checks would be nice, pus now i can know for sure im prime 24hr stable.
ok so first thing i think i noticed was obviously the whole "voltage that you select is not really the voltage you get" ok fine. i can live with that. so i have been using hte %'s. then i learn that even with that, you might not be gettin what you asked for evidenced by me using various combinations of 1.425, 1.45 and 1.475 with the 3.3%, 5% , 8.3% and 10%. tthen i hear i must select 1.55 and hten a % to get it set right. but what is right? what am i really ssupposed to be getting?
next issue is do i take what i see in cpuz, bios, everest, etc as what the actual vcore is? and the main question i have been tryin to wrap my head around is: though i kno winchester cpus have an issue with hitting a voltage wall around 1.6 and up and at about 2.6ghz or so blah blah, is there also a point where they are LESS stable with MORE volts at my speed of 2.5ghz? weird, but i dont unnderstand.
ps: tried out a few bioses last night from the links here etc currently running 180NFM(Rev.3).rar cuz its the newest modded bios that i downloaded that still allowed control over the nb fan. some of the super modded ones that were adding other mem dividers did not even have it possible making my nb fan run at full speed aka noisy....
if there is any newer bioses that 1. still allow control of hte nb fan, 2. have better or REAL vcore controls (assuming its not a direct mobo thing like the whole trcd issue with 2t blah) and 3. is a better bios for "oc'ing"
notes: most of the time the error i get is after a buncha hours (5 and up) and is usually a rounding error (expected blah but got blah). ram is running at 208 mhz which is acheived with 166 divider and is memtest stable 24hrs. and of course nothing is really getting very hot at all cuz its watercooled and im pretty sure my 120 mm fan runnin from the front of hte mobo to the back across the ram and mosfets is doing its job + they have heatsinks on em.
i know i said alot but i wnated to get the best help possible thanks for your time.
Yes none of the new bios files have fan control for the northbridge fan included. Its because the files after 1.8 are a new bios so it doesnt have the option yet.
Its best to use speedfan to monitor and change the values anyway because the motherboard is really bad at doing it. The lowest value is like 40 degrees. You can use speedfan to set more reasonble values like 25 or 30 degrees or just set a constant percentage. Plus it shows your cpu temp at all times in the toolbar which is always good.
And the voltage is spot on. Its not that it gives the wrong reading its that any voltage above 1.45 volts is ignored. So for example 1.45 +10 percent is the same as 1.55 + 10 percent because they are both really 1.45 + 10 percent. This is because the newer cpus have a max VID of 1.45 not like the old cores that had 1.55.
So anyone with a Winchester, venice or san diego should always set 1.45 and then the percentage.
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Originally Posted by sideeffect
well that dont mean anything its a crap cpu with a seriously crappy memory controller on it.
im very displeased at that cpu.
and the neo wouldnt go over 2.55 stable and i am back to 2.65ghz stable with the DFI so.. yes it IS a much much better unit.
Has anyone seen the following error when booting with a raid 0 configuration:
[Warning: Have Option ROM can not be invoke (Vendor ID:10DEH, Device ID: 00DFH)]
After I flashed to the lastest bios I'm getting this error, windows boots just fine however. I think that it has something to do with the Nvidia Lan since if I disable it I don't the error but I'm using it for internet/lan connection so I need it on. Anyone got a better fix? thanks.
:stick:
Yes ive noticed this error i have a possible fix to the problem which im planing to implement in my next bios if i can get it to work properly.
However MSI may fix it by then. But then the problem has exisited since the 1.9 bios came out so dont hold your breath waiting for MSI.
mr sideeffect sir, this is precisely the single post end all be all answer i was lookin for all week to explain to me exactly WHAT the hell was going on with this mobo and cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
i am very happy and incidentally: last night i set the comp to prime blend test before bed, i might have mentioned this before, with the nfm 1.8 mod bios as it still had the nb fan control and just got home from work still priming which i can assume is about 19 hours so ima let it run.
if its alll the same to the mobo (or cpu?) i shouldnt have to change the vcore setting should i? i think its 1.55 + 5% thats looking to be a stable winner..... i gues only if im trying to get it to go stable with les voltage.
anyhoo i had ben using speedfan to do the control back when i was on nvsilencer, 120 mm case fans and xp-90, but ive turned it off now with the advent of my swiftech storm kit.
i guess the thing is i was never able to set the nb fan to any of the controls before cuz i do like the "control" speedfan gives and its lightweight on the cpu. so if i can figure out how to map the nb fan and sensor in speedfan i will. i guess in ever really DID explore it too much. it does take some configging tho. got a direction to point me to?
(ps: yea when the bios ramps down the nb, its very funny, it takes about a minute and its in 4 defined steps.... very silly, speedfan was much better with how it ramped fan speeds)
sideeffect, thanks again. now the question is, which bios would i use of hte newer ones? i experienced the lan error thing too and didnt like it, so not one of those, but would i use one of these lettered 1.X bioses? what are their strengths?
Speedfan controls the Temperatures of your cpu and nforce 3 chipset by using a target that you choose. It then varies the speed of the fans within the percentage that you also choose. Good percentage values are like 70 - 100 percent. This way when it starts to get hot it goes to 100 percent otherwise it will stay at 70 percent.
You must tick the boxes to allow automatic fan speeds. Its also better to turn the option off in bios so they dont interfear with each other although i think speedfan overides the bios. Heres some pics to help you. As you see i leave my Chipset at a constant 80 percent by having min and max values the same. This is because i dont like constant fan chages personally and it doesnt get to hot anyway.
The lan issue is in all the bios files after 1.8 im working on a fix for 1.B official mod so maybe wait for that bios.
Speedfan is good but one thing about it which you might notice from this picture is that it displays +3.3 and +12 volt rails wrongly. this is because it follows the standard winbond spec and the neo 2 doesnt. To get the correct +3.3 and +12 you need to use core center or the fantastic Systool Speedfan measures the other voltages and temperatures just fine though so its not a big problem.
http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios//speedfan1.JPG
http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios//speedfan2.JPG