ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

I totally agree that for benching, the Maximus II Formula will not be the best choice, and I never said that. We know Biostar P45 is a better bencher, DFI p45 DK is more efficient on superpi, and as you said, those Gigabyte UD3P are showing some nice FSB clocks and mem clocks for benching too. And there are other examples out there.

But as I said before, I am talking about 24/7. About the memory issue, YES, it is true, but, as an example, for a screenshot a 12000mb/s is very different from a 10000mb/s on everest. But on a day to day performance on games or other applications, it means absolutely nothing. Other things are much more important as stability, and low volts for higher solid stable clocks, and more important, SAFFER volts for 24/7 use for years.

Maximus II Formula can keep overclocks, with lower volts then all other boards (I am saying this, because I visit the other board threads, and I can compare), including your UD3P. MIIF 16 phase power do make a difference on vcore and vFSB against the 6 power design of the UD3P, and the 8 - 12 power design of other boards. Mosfets on MIIF will ALWAYS be cooler then on those other boards, and more stable at very high quad clocks and FSB. Maybe it has some problems clocking ram at some point, but that is far beyond a 24/7 use situation anyway.

The thing I don't like much about "showing a screenshot" or just benching for the highest number, is that it makes no sense for me. Everybody would be reaching 550 - 560FSB on quads, for a screenshot, if they were crazy enough to push 1.8 vFSB and 1.75vPLL, like NapalmV5 and others were doing. Everybody would be showing 12.000mb/s on everest, if they would push their 2.1v rated mem to 2.4v or so.
There is no secret. I is just plain simple and easy. Buy the best and expensive hardware, and risk it by pushing crazy volts. You will get some nice numbers and screenshots for sure.

Anyway, I don't have the money, and I never killed a computer part. Not even a single memory stick. I hope I can keep it that way... Except for the money part of course =/

I will quote Leeghoofd on this:

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

The GB boards have got the A3 rev of the NB and the board pushes way more volts... for 24/7 I prefer the Asus board as I got the same clockspeed with way less NB and FSB term voltage... for benching the Gb might be better... but does that NB get scorching hot...

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Don't get me wrong, this is xtremesystems, and to push it is the way to go here. I believe there is space for everybody. For the extreme benchers, and also for the ones only interested in 24/7 operation.

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Originally Posted by Simps

I totally agree that for benching, the Maximus II Formula will not be the best choice, and I never said that. We know Biostar P45 is a better bencher, DFI p45 DK is more efficient on superpi, and as you said, those Gigabyte UD3P are showing some nice FSB clocks and mem clocks for benching too. And there are other examples out there.

But as I said before, I am talking about 24/7. About the memory issue, YES, it is true, but, as an example, for a screenshot a 12000mb/s is very different from a 10000mb/s on everest. But on a day to day performance on games or other applications, it means absolutely nothing. Other things are much more important as stability, and low volts for higher solid stable clocks, and more important, SAFFER volts for 24/7 use for years.

Maximus II Formula can keep overclocks, with lower volts then all other boards (I am saying this, because I visit the other board threads, and I can compare), including your UD3P. MIIF 16 phase power do make a difference on vcore and vFSB against the 6 power design of the UD3P, and the 8 - 12 power design of other boards. Mosfets on MIIF will ALWAYS be cooler then on those other boards, and more stable at very high quad clocks. Maybe it has some problems clocking ram at some point, but that is far beyond a 24/7 use situation anyway.

I will quote Leeghoofd on this:


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No one was arguing your claim:)
I like the MIIF its a solid board but lacking in a mature bios to really show its true potential. There are many boards that will clock chips with low volts the MIIF is not alone in this catagory, DFI will beat this board easy but the bios is what scares ppl off.
You have done a great job here and have made a very valuble contrabution, you should be proud. My wife is reading your guide and will try to overclock my second MIIF board with a Q6700 and then a E8400. It will be interesting to see her results based on your guide.

Wow, I am curious to see what can she achieve with that Q6700. Please give us some feedback on that!

I'm about to put my MIIF and Q6600 back together, and use your guide. It oughta be a better combo than this friggin DFI x48 board.... Ugh....:shakes:

Been having a bit of fun with the new cpu :)

Sub 11min SPI32M done :D
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...z10m55890s.jpg

259K Aquamark done with 8800GT :D
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...-950259532.jpg

very nice clocks there cryptik.with very low volts

I'm just gonna hang out and spectate, interested in your wife's results grn, last time my wife played with one of my rigs she smoked my 939 x2 3800 on phase :rofl:

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Originally Posted by radaja

very nice clocks there cryptik.with very low volts

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Thanks :) It's a decent cpu, nothing that special though unfortunately. I'm still searching for a really nice one. I really want an e8600 it's just a matter of finding a great batch, preferably a Q822A435 so if anyone knows of one that hasn't been really thrashed please let me know.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Thanks :) It's a decent cpu, nothing that special though unfortunately. I'm still searching for a really nice one. I really want an e8600 it's just a matter of finding a great batch, preferably a Q822A435 so if anyone knows of one that hasn't been really thrashed please let me know.

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Congrats CryptiK !!!

I'm sure you'll find the best one :up:

CryptiK,

Looking good, looks like 4.2GHz or even 4.3GHz very possible on resonable volts for 24/7 with your E8400. From what I have seen, the E8600 would do a 4.5GHz 24/7. No that much improvement, on a dual, you wouldn't notice that difference on 24/7 operation.

Now if you are looking for a cpu to bench, then I would say E8600 would be much better... You would bench @ 4.9GHz aircooled or more with a good chip and with some agressive volts.

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-this is my result on Q9550, based on Simp 'method, I 've just tested 2 hours with Small stress, I will do some more with blend and ITB, thks so much Simp :)
-490x8.5 vcore bios 1.3875, bios 1901

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/3755/4168ac0.jpg

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CryptiK,

Looking good, looks like 4.2GHz or even 4.3GHz very possible on resonable volts for 24/7 with your E8400. From what I have seen, the E8600 would do a 4.5GHz 24/7. No that much improvement, on a dual, you wouldn't notice that difference on 24/7 operation.

Now if you are looking for a cpu to bench, then I would say E8600 would be much better... You would bench @ 4.9GHz aircooled or more with a good chip and with some agressive volts.

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Yeah the 8600 wouldnt be for the small increase in 24/7 clocks, it would be purely for benching. I can do 4.3 GHz @ 1.272v (cpu-z) 1.268v (pc-probe), and 4.23 GHz @ ~1.23v so it's not a bad cpu. It's better than some e8600's Ive seen too so if I was to get an e8600, I want a good batch or it's not worth it.

Also, I was very impressed with your overclock and the voltages you used to achieve total stability. Really good work. I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from your guide and information; your contribution to this thread has been valuable. Your board is above average mate, not all can do what yours can on those voltages, so don't kill it! :)

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Originally Posted by brain@voz

-this is my result on Q9550, based on Simp 'method, I 've just tested 2 hours with Small stress, I will do some more with blend and ITB, thks so much Simp :)
-490x8.5 vcore bios 1.3875, bios 1901

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Welcome to the thread! Looking really good well done :up:

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

I picked up a new CPU, I needed greater flexibility for benching, and a little more speed 24/7 will also be nice. It's a Q829A, supposedly a decent batch. After about 5 hours idling at stock speed and 1.08v, and half an hour or so of orthos, i started working my way up. It passed 2 hours of orthos and 5 runs of IBT (max stress) at 4005 MHz @ 1.197v. I'm still slowly raising the clocks.

So far it's looking pretty good, passed an hour of small FFT's at 4104 MHz, 1.237v:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...41GHz1237v.jpg

New PB 3D Mark 06 with 8800GT:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...6-1836-950.jpg

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dude , priority 1 in orthos is almost not pushing anything at all. You should try at priority 9 or 10.

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Runs to get popcorn and a soda.

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dude , priority 1 in orthos is almost not pushing anything at all. You should try at priority 9 or 10.

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Yes I'm aware it's better to set priority 9 or 10, that was just a quick test, and I was doing other things in the background while the test was running so i needed it set to priority 1. I'm not calling that stable, just roughly establishing what the cpu can do.

I don't know what's up with my M2F, it barely wants to POST anymore. Hangs at DET DRAM most of the time with known good memory, when I do get it to post and try any overclocking settings they don't stick, it goes in a reboot cycle or does the DET DRAM thing again. I had it in a box for the past month or two so it's had a good break, waste of $269 :mad:

Do a full cmos clear (remove battery too) and see if that helps. If not, try and use the other bios chip by setting the jumper to bios2. Do either of those things help?

I did try jumpering to BIOS2, and that got it to at least POST (after I used almost every RAM kit I own) but I tried to OC and it went back to its non-POSTing self. Did the battery removal too.

Thats odd. When it does post, on stock settings, is it stable enough to flash the BIOS? If so try that. Does it do the same thing with only one stick of ram installed?

I can only get it to post with one stick. It was freezing up in the BIOS quite a bit as well.

When mine did that it was because the chipset was over heating.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Thanks :) It's a decent cpu, nothing that special though unfortunately. I'm still searching for a really nice one. I really want an e8600 it's just a matter of finding a great batch, preferably a Q822A435 so if anyone knows of one that hasn't been really thrashed please let me know.

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Nice clocks Cryptic. My Q828 8400 E0 needs 1.36v to be totally stable @ 4.5ghz, on water though...

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I'm just gonna hang out and spectate, interested in your wife's results grn, last time my wife played with one of my rigs she smoked my 939 x2 3800 on phase :rofl:

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Nice to have you here.
I am not so trusting supervision will be on hand.:up:

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Also, I was very impressed with your overclock and the voltages you used to achieve total stability. Really good work. I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from your guide and information; your contribution to this thread has been valuable. Your board is above average mate, not all can do what yours can on those voltages, so don't kill it! :)

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Thanks! But I really don't think my board is special. I was running into a lot of problems (the same most of people on the thread), till I got it going. So I really think it is about tunning it the right way.

As I type, I am priming some nice little settings... So far 90mim on prime blend and running... What do you think about the volts required for that FSB on that 65nm quad? :)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6206/4941zj1.jpg



brain@voz,

That is one nice overclock! I really hope it is stable for 24/7. I have some good news for you. That a look at the pic above. I found out that from 490FSB to 494FSB on a quad (so far), the board doesn't need volts adjusts. I am doing 494FSB on the exactly same settings I was doing 490FSB. I didn't even change the vcore. I changed nothing but the FSB. So you can take that o/c higher!



Shiranui Gen-An,

Try to update your bios with 1901, and check your mobo temps.



Grnfinger,

What has your wife achieved so far? :)


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Originally Posted by JoeBar

Nice clocks Cryptic. My Q828 8400 E0 needs 1.36v to be totally stable @ 4.5ghz, on water though...

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My E8500 EO needs 1.4v to get 4.5GHz stable on water................... At least heat is not an issue.