What mobo are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
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What mobo are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
same speed on all mobo's
p4p800-vm bios 1016
p4p800 bios 1021.003
p4p800-e 1007.003
the p4p800-e is the best bios i can run the memory at 3:4 and adjust the vcore upto 1.6 but still never beat 28s.
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Originally Posted by DrJay
just to let you know that the reserator fits the asus p4p800 se with the ct479 perfectly with some new bolts.
been over an hour and still sitting at 19-20 idle. :)
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Azh2004-ohhhh.JPG
Could you post some pics of the socket-area?Quote:
Originally Posted by Azh_fx
Some screen shots of 260 x 10 / mem @ 1:1 2.5-3-3-7.
Still on stock cooler. With better air cooling and possibly a tad more volts 2.7+Ghz is do-able.
I'm gonna make a push for 6K mem bandwidth. Also of interest,...I didn't see any improvement in superpi times between 210x9 with mem 4:5 ratio vs. 252x10 mem at 1:1 (both at 2.52Ghz). Seems like with P4, a huge increase in bus speed, regardless of mem speed will make a big difference.
I think these 256mb TCCD sticks are hurting my superpi....I'm going to try some other sticks soon.
Jay
Somebody who testin' Celeron-M with Ct-479 ?
In this very thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...223#post848223 :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbone
Just got my new everyday PC up and running.
its pretty fast in doom3 :D
1024x768, high quality, timedemo demo1:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/d16g/doom3_d...27_610_610.PNG
Dothan 1.6 @ 2727MHz, X800XTPE @610/610
@macci
can you test Aquamark with your Pentium M @3,3 ? -> cpu-score is interesting to know.
i have one problem
my system
ct-479
p4c800-e deluxe bios:1021 beta 007
mushkin 3500 level 2 2x512mb
P-M 730
whit pat->on und performance mode->turbo
I come to stable 207fsb
whit pat->on und performance mode->auto
I come to stable >245fsb
I lose opposite performace mode >turbo well 500mb in everest read bench
is that bios problem or my bh'5 ram problem whit turbo?
That is quite nice! I guess the folks who declared the P4GD1 a lousy motherboard were wrong! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamerat
Is that completely "stock" or have you any kinds of new cooling, Vmods or so?
Stock cooling on all. I have done a VCORE-mod on the board and running the OCZ Booster for my RAM. Did a 3DMark-run at 10x260 1:1 with 3,6V VMEM, trying 10x265 now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias-K
Everyone is going dothan mad :)
These chips are so much fun to bench, aren't they?.
p4p800se
container base temp @ -160c
mem speed 248mhz
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/...6/96933517.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=18232
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/...6/96933532.jpg
w/p4c and better mem speed, hopefully soon jap territory :P
nice ln2 run there :toast:
how does 1:1 work for you? should be clock to clock a bit faster :)
Thanx macci.
My ram speed wasnt all that great on these (248)
and I need to work on my teaking a little more too.
On my best 1:1 with same tweaker settings as my above posted runs, I scored 22.34 1mpi at 263.84x13(3419) 5-2-2-2, tras 70, rms 7.8, and dram lat par 00.
So 310.4x11 with 5/4 divider verse 263.83x13 with 1:1 divider was about 1/10 second faster for 1:1. I'm sure from your 3d benching :toast: , you see a bigger margin though.
I think it's a pretty close tradeoff between fsb speed / ram speed paired with cpu ghz.
Did not make a difference for me between -145c and -180c .That chip just didnt want to go any faster. I was able to match my scores again last night using only -145c. If my system crashed during runs below -150c, I had to wait for the temps to rise back to 150c before the pc could reboot and the resum benching again. Very weird.
Damn nice! This is pure madness... Different sounds are heard from the Intel Camp:Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
2003-2004 "Heat, Heat, 915-OC-LOCK, Heat, Delay...."
2005 "100% overclock, 999FPS '01, 1M = 19s.." :D
k|ngp|n, mind if I join you in the 22sec club :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/d16g/d16g_spi22sec_3300.gif
Can't wait to take her to some 50C colder temps :hehe:
Thats perfectly normal - for LN2 benching that is :D Its a biotch when it wont work. But also overclocking at its best when stuff is doing like it should w/ LN2 :DQuote:
If my system crashed during runs below -150c, I had to wait for the temps to rise back to 150c before the pc could reboot and the resum benching again. Very weird.
can anyone help me on this?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=63054
Hehe.. really nice job man :toast: It took me 3350 on this p4p to get 22.8sec 1m.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Like you said at the ATI show, "it's all in the touch with ln2" :) I think about that every time I pour. Too much ln2, and I'm sitting for 7-10 minutes waiting for temps to rise so I can start benching again lol.
I'm the lucky one to have a Dothan Sonoma.... I'm 2 impressed with his power...
Never thought that Pentium M was just "the" real deal!!!
Dothan power! I'm impressed!
The super pi OMG! beat's A64 clock per clock!
Well, it seems that at the maximum bios setting voltage (1.6) and stock cooler, my 730 tops out at 2.64 - 2.65Ghz. I was getting 28sec superpi at 260x10,... 264x10 wasn't enough to push me to 27. Most likely beacuse of the 2.5-3-3-7 mem timings. I really need to go with 2-2-2-5 even if I have to keep ram speeds down around 220-225Mhz.
Just for grins, I tried a higher fsb an lower mult. The mem divider on my board only seems to work for higher than bus speeds so I had to keep the memory at a 1:1 ratio.
With the 1:1 , the highest I got was this 280..........limited by memory I believe.
Maybe 500-700mb/s lower than a P4C / 865 combo @ 280fsb.
Hello all, I was thinking of this for sometime, what about a 735 Dothan and the AOpen i915GMm-HSF? I needed a platform where I can retain the abvility to use DDR2 and my PCI-ex graphic card? Of course the board is $320 which is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ographic
Only drawback with that combo is that you most likely won't reach high fsb.
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Originally Posted by stryg
sorry for the extreme closeup its ain my custom 15cm tall desk case :toast:
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Azh2004-DSC00122.JPG
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Azh2004-DSC00120.JPG
il get some proper pics up tomorrow.
as you can see, the block fits perfectly with the power connector in place and all i did rearrange the zalman socket retention peices (upside down) and used custom bolts, effective :woot:
Thank you for the response. Is that Zalman watercooling the Socket 479? Why do they name these Socket-478's? I see you went and got the Musketeer too. There's a story behind the one I have which make's Lord of The Rings look shallow.
Hi, can you tell me the exact name of the cooler ,please ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Azh_fx
its the standard zalman reserator 1
here
My old Thermalright SLK900U fitted using it's original springs. Time for some heavier clocking. :banana:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=30878&stc=1
if these things had emt64 it would be interesting to see what they could do :D
Hi kamerat,
Do you need to cut the hsf in order to be used with ct-479 or you can use it out of the box ? I noticed you use the retention clip that comes with CT-479 hsf, is it correct ?
Any difference between SLK900U with SLK900A with SLK948U ?
Thanks a lot !
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Originally Posted by Kamerat
I didn't mod the heatsink, but i modded the adapter, soldred the power wires directly to the adapter. I don't use the retention clip from CT-479, but those who I got with the heatsink. Think the SLK900A is the one only for socket A and SLK948U is a newer version of the SLK900U with better motherboard compability and socket 754/939/940 support.Quote:
Originally Posted by lktuio
Seems like a smart plan, less space used up by the molex (? or is it berg?) connector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamerat
What are you using as a shim? <= My main concern.
Thanks :)
k|ngp|n, you are setting the multi using CPUMSR, not in bios right?Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
This should answer your questions: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ychocky
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=30928&stc=1
Very clean job. Soldering the power connector is a nice simple way to get a "proper" cooler towering above our Dothan's :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamerat
Foam seems to be a winner! :)
hi there guys, ive got a 1.5 2mb dothan cpu (400fsb), im running it on a vdroop + vdimm modded p4p800-e deluxe mobo...
and i jus cnt seem 2 get over 2.4Ghz no matter wat the voltage
i mean anything over 160fsb and my system becomes unstable instantly, altho its stable @ 15x160 = 2.4 with about 1.52v .........
so im starting 2 belive that its somting else holdin me back and not the cpu?
ive tried 2 disable turbo and i still get the same results
also there is a option in the cpu section of the bios, i belive its called "cpu vid" this is set at "62" .... should i change it? of so 2 wat value?
shigs
hey great pic! And using the 4 pin molex is a LOT better than the floppy connector, too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamerat
And did you just solder between the fsb jumpers?
C
somebody tried to solder there a cap?
there's one missing
yeah, good question, except that it'd be "in the way"Quote:
Originally Posted by Flip
C
No cap there stock.
I know that there isn't one it stock..
but why not solder one there?
Solder it with wires outside from the ct-479, then you can still use a big heatsink
It is looking line 400fsb dothans are maxing on the fsb between 160 and 170fsb.
When i get a 533fsb 1.6 i will test this againts a 400fsb 1.6.
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Originally Posted by shigs
Im gunner grab some dothan stuff real soon. Some questions though.
Whats the best dothan to buy for air use and maybe some DI action in the future but air 24/7? A 1.6 dothan?
The P4C800-E dlx the best board to work with?
Where can I get an adapter from?
Thanks :)
i ad a website in the uk that sells retail 1.6 / 533 fsb dothans for £135Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
i cnt bloody seem 2 find the site again now..... and i wanna order 1 2moro :(
:(
Where did you get your adapter from ?
http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/product...372203f02246ecQuote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
shigs
hmm, not that bad of a price.
Thanks alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by shigs
Now to find a 730 :D
How about a 735, in stock at overclockers.co.uk
They are 400fsb so it would be 100x17 stock ?
I would be happy @ 2400MHz tbh for everyday things and gaming, it would be a nice setup.
Whats the lowest multi that can be used?
my 1.5 does 2.4, 160x15 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
Thanks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Yes, I did solder between the FSB jumpers, but you can try to run without jumpers befor you solder. :)
From the standpoint of another cap couldn't hurt, or for a specific reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flip
I also soldered a molex to my ct-479. I'm gonna try and keep the fsb jumpers changeable by clipping the pins a little and keeping em low profile.
CT-479 from kustompcs.co.uk
Cheapest 1.6 533fsb dothan i could find from Ebuyer.com
P4p800-e / p4p800-se and any of the p4c boards are all good options.
Lee
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Originally Posted by Bennah
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Originally Posted by leejsmith
thanks for that link mate :)
No problem, ebuyer is 100% but i never used kustompcs before should be ok from what other peeps have said.
I will be ordering both soon too.
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Originally Posted by shigs
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Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
:woot:
I have some questions:
-How did you reached such high fsb :slobber:?
I assume you must have boot below 200fsb? Cos you have P-M 760 (MP15).
Still wanna know how :D :eek:
-With what bios did you flashed your P4P800SE to get the 5/4 divider? P4P800 (dlx) bios 1021.003?
With 760 pent m, The default multi is 15x.....and cannot be changed in bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegeta
The chip can only do around 2.7ghz on the ct-479 aluminum cooler max.
232 is the limit on my boards(p4c and p4p), IF I BOOT AT ANYTHING LOWER THAN 200FSB FROM BIOS. It is impossible for me to boot at 200x15(3ghz) on default cooler. When testing with the default alum cooler on, I boot the chip at 166x15, then up to 232fsb is available in windows using software along with 6-15 multi's. TO get over 232 in windows with a pent 760, you need to put cold on the chip so you can boot at 200x15 from bios. Once you do that, the sky is the limit on fsb.......well really the max your board will allow ;) Try to find the beta bios 1009 for the p4p800se. Works very well.
I'm currently on the 1009 beta bios :DQuote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
But you mentioned you had a 5/4 divider. I can only see 1/1 and 3/4 as available dividers in the bios :(
With what kinda HS you've replaced the stock HS? I suppose you're not cooling it with LN2 all the time :D
guys then if i don't boot at 200mhz i cannot pass 230fsb or so???
that's what he said, for his board anyway. other boards might be able to reach slightly higher than 232 or slightly less when booted at fsb's lower than 200.
once you made it into windows with fsb >=200 you can do pretty much what you want, chaning the multi and fsb via clockgen and eist or whatever tool you prefer. you can even use those tools in an autostart kinda config and make those changes happen on bootup, so you don't have to bother doing it by hand every time - if your sys is stable at whatever you chose to have anyway :D
What sky said EXACTLY....
When on ln2, dI, or even reular phase change, it is possible to boot at 200x15(the multi your stuck with for 760) and then the fsb is opened up.
The 760 pent m is really not the ideal chip for everday air use because of this. The 730 like macci has or 740 possibly are better choices until asus releases a bios that unlocks the multi's from within bios.
When not on DI or ln2, I boot at 166x15(2489). Then once in windows, I set multi to 13 and set fsb to 200 for 2.6ghz. My 760 is very stable at 2.6ghz with using just the ct-479 aluminum cooler and def vcore.
Guys , what waterblock is possible to use with ct-479? May be Maze4?
i have ordered a 740, than a boot at 200 seem possible...
watercooling on these chips is unnecessaryQuote:
Originally Posted by BobyTT
:) so my bad , i was thinking , that watter always help :)
Anyway is there something like better steping or something like that? I just got mine set up , but i gonna have to build the PC tomorow after work...
But helpful if chilled. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cirthix
Revision C0 is the way to go, but how big performance difference can I expect in games between a 1 MB CM and a 2 MB PM running at the same speed? I've checked for tests but couldn't find any.
Does somebody know what the other two FSB jumper combinations would do on a CT-479?
While I was reading GamePC's review of AOpen i915GMm-HFS I saw this:
:toast:Quote:
AOpen will be releasing a full-sized Pentium-M desktop motherboard based on the Intel 915G (not 915GM) chipset in the coming months which will boost the amount of DDR2 slots and SATA ports available. While the full-sized board will be better for gamers and desktop users with a lot of expansion cards and peripherals, the Micro-ATX board suits us just fine for the time being.
Do you know about other PM mobos on the way?
915 always suck...
Well, I managed to get a Asus CT-479 and a Pentium M 730 to put in my P4C800-E Deluxe that was gathering dust.
So far I've managed 2.66Ghz with the stock cooler.
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/pressure/Dothan2666.jpg
That gave me a 3DMark2001SE score of 32790 Marks.
Not bad for a stock X800XTPE (520/560Mhz)
Great results you got there Pressure. What's the max 24/7 100% stable clock for that chip with stock cooler?
Right out of the box that's what I get:
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/6933/7301fg.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=19401
If I boot at 200FSB and then overclock with Clockgen, the PC800 runs with the Performance Mode ON but I lose the AGP lock (ATI issue). SuperPi 1M at ~2.6Ghz is 29sec. If FSB>200Mhz in BIOS, the AGP stays locked even if I use Clockgen but the Perf Mode is OFF and SuperPi at 2.6Ghz is 30sec.
Just run it at 10x250Mhz for a nice and cool 2.50Ghz. Until I get a better cooler (having trouble mounting my Vapo on it...) or a better retention system that will have to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by nCrusader
I thought that MACCI said to boot at 201+ then there's a way to enable perf mode thru windows from the desktop???Quote:
Originally Posted by NoX
C
Well after reading this thread again I still cant seem to find if the P4P800-VM can have its FSB adjustable ??
I have bought an 1.4 Banias with the intention of putting it in my HTPC that only takes micro-ATX but if the -VM is no good to OC it looks like I will have to change my HTPC case to one that takes full ATX :(
can anyone please advise
Not in the bios but clockgen or setfsb will both work. I tested this with a 1.6 400fsb no problems. The vm's weak point is ram will only work upto 2.6v and a ddr booster will blow the board at anything above it.
as long as your not pushing the memory your good for about 168fsb max should be enough for you.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Yes, with the 865/875 Tweaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/223/7306uf.jpg
I tried EIST and CPUMSR but with these programs I can raise the vcore to max 1.35V. Is there any other software that allows to go higher?
The pin mod is REALLY easy and I highly reccommend it!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoX
C
I have a problems with my set up...
i cannot go over 2400MHz and even at that speed is unstable , i am using P4C800-E Deluxe (bios 1021) ram is OCZ 3200EL Platinum Rev.2
2x512MB ,OCZ PowerStream520W i dont know why , but when i am usin clockgen to rise the FSB is freezing after like 1-3 seconds. is it posible tempreture to be so high?
http://www.bobytt.com/2400-1.jpg
And CPUz is saying that my SPU is 725 , but at the box and CPU its says 730?
http://www.bobytt.com/Small.jpg
http://www.bobytt.com/big.JPG
Charlie , how to do this PIN mode? what i gonna need? i am desperate....
First test an smooth start. Myh Dotti Honey <3
http://mauri.oc-papat.com/Dottihoney.JPG
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Originally Posted by charlie
This one?
http://img186.echo.cx/img186/4930/vidmod1ms.jpg
Might be this one?
easier to do the wire in the socket trick... but same concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoX
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...0&postcount=93
EDIT: YES, THE ONE STRYG JUST POSTED!!!!!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=31119
Thx! Where can I find a wire that thin? :confused:
Download the newest version of CPU-Z.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobyTT
It is easier to modify the socket to get higher voltages. See above.
take a larger copper-cable and remove the rubber, then take one of the small wires the cable ist made off.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoX
I have yet to determine whether this wire trick can be used in conjuction with setting vcore in the bios to trick these puppies into overvolting a little? I'd like to go maybe 1.7 when the phase is mounted. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Many thanks leejsmith :) its main use is going to be an HTPC so no way do I want to have to fool around with clockgen so it looks like an P4P800-E and a new case that takes full ATX :( oh well, all in the search for silence :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=31119
I just did it and gave me 1.5V for the CPU , now i am able to run at 2.6GHz , but i have problem with the heat , actualy i noticed that ASUS fan is not fiting somehow perfect to the CPU... i dont know how to fixed my temps jump up to 58'C under load during 32M SuperPi , and is restarting when i start 3Dmark2005.. does anybody have any soliution for that problem?
I tried using 2 u-wire mods on the p4p800-e.
Vid4 to vss to give 1.568v and i think vid1 to vss to bump upto to 1.62v but it never showed any higher than the bios allowed 1.6v.
Didnt try it in a p4p800 that does not have vcore selection in the bios it could work in that.
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Originally Posted by uclajd
It seems 2.6Ghz to be the limit for me.... at least on air... somebody to have any idea how to mount Vapochill LS on that?
yeah, if you can get the heat issue ironed out a bit you can probably do 2700ish....
C
10X Charlie , i am still thinking , what i can do to fix that problem... i doubt that another low profile FAN gonna do better then ASUS fan, I am blowing air over the CPU fan with one 120mm paraflow, but , this doesnt realy help i think....
This is really frustrating. Seems I have just about the worst clocking 730. For superpi and 3dmark stability, my cpu needs 1.35 volts for 2.4Ghz, 1.45 for 2.5Ghz and 1.55 for 2.6Ghz. The mobo is a p4p800se. So, setting the Vcore to the bios max, (1.6) this cpu's max suprepi stable is 2640Mhz with the stock heatsink and 2680 with a zalman 7000alcu.
Most seem to be reaching 2.7+, with less voltage and on stock cooler. Under load, Vcore only drops to 1.588v. Temps never go above 39-40c at load.
I've had a really bad string of cpus lately... :rolleyes:
So does TCCD perform better than UTT on while using the P4C800se etc?
So much divider use, hard to tell what ram speeds people are running, so i cant tell whether utt or tccd is being used, thanks :P
With TCCD, I seem to be running about 1 sec. slower in superpi (vs. like clock speeds) than others. Of course, I have been running with 2.5-3-3-7 timings. Good up to 280Mhz on p4p800se.Quote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
Talking about :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty CPU's, using stock cooler my 730 is 24/7 stable@2.4GHz with 1.45v (BIOS setting). 2.47GHz isn't stable even with 1.50v. Above 2.6GHz mine doesn't even post regardless of voltage given. MB is P4P800-E Dx.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJay