Okay, didn't he say a few posts back he knew how fast it is?
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Kyle claims: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=...9&postcount=89
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You will start to see benchmark leaks and such probably in the next couple of days. I think most of those will be at less than 2560 resolution. And let's face it, you don't need a flagship card for resolution that small. Honestly, like always, we are going to have to put it through [H] large resolution gaming paces before we make a call on where it is compared to 7970. I think the 680 will be faster but by how much, we don't know yet, and I have seen NO MSRPs confirmed.
The rising tension of this thread is really starting to build...
Show me the card!!!
I going to the great country United States of America next month, second best country after Kazakhstan... and I going to buy brand new PeeCees! Very niiice!
Choosing between 7870 OC or 680.. please bring it out soon!
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...9&d=1252697380
This dynamic clocking rumor is very interesting. I hope it's sophisticated. I could imagine the TDP budget being shifted around on the GPU as needed. Highly utilized units are clocked higher while waiting/idle units are clocked lower. This would increase power consumption on average but would stay within the TDP. I hope one can deactivate it for older games though. Or when you are CPU bound or have vsync enabled that it doesn't kick in when the chip doesn't run at full capacity.
It's been the same thing with benchmarking CPUs with turbo mode. You run the bench 10 times time after time and you get 10 different results... numbers in reviews are more like close approximations, that's why a score difference of 1-3% between competing products is called a draw, not a win.
relative to 7970 for the advantages of the new stuff is as follows: low-voltage, high frequency (broken GHz), low power consumption low-noise, high-performance (the DX11), AA, and obtained the support of the business of the game
PHK Expreview -> http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-49806-1-1.html
http://oi43.tinypic.com/muy5co.jpgQuote:
GTX6xx pics, teh card, another PCB shot, and those power-connectors.:rolleyes:
Source:http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1849001-1-1.html
http://oi43.tinypic.com/1072fc4.jpg
http://oi39.tinypic.com/24n44g3.jpg
http://oi40.tinypic.com/11l1w14.jpg
Do you realize what sort of tranny budget that would add?
Nvidia didn't even want to go simple for Fermi, they went software to try to keep the cards under control and we all know how well that worked out...
Not saying it is impossible but I would be very surprised to see them jump into that all at once rather than gradually implementing the feature over a generation or two.
I see them implementing into the hardware to control TDP, such as AMD's Powertune, but anything more seems unlikely at this point especially something relatively complex.
Several sources speak of decoupled shader and core clocks. This is already different from Powertune. It seems, both clock domains are dynamic (705-950MHz for the core and up to 1411 MHz for the ALUs).
As long as those connectors don't make the card thicker thana standard 2 slot design I don't care.
If they do, well others and myself might have trouble getting it into a M-ITX system.
Why nonsense? Please elaborate and remember that we're talking about 1536 of those bad boys here, not just 512 or so.
Ask yourself:
1) what kind of clocks can Nvidia expect from TSMC 28 nm?
2) what kind of transistor budget they have?
3) what was the shader clock in every generation of GPUs that had hot clocks?
And finally:
4) is it therefore possible to have 1536 SPs at 1500+ MHz and still fit into thermal and power constraints?
IMHO What Kyle is saying is, what everyone suspects, gk104 won't stand a chance against Tahiti in 2560x1600 gaming, let alone multi-monitor resolutions
http://www.redquasar.com/forum.php?m...hread&tid=7234Quote:
Broke the news : 40% performance increase through the brush bios (As for you Believe it or not anyway, I believe)
Thanks to AnarchX from 3DCenter krew. Great digger !
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/32b4c0c...8b31f1693b.jpg
Press kit ?
I'd seen the pic before (and yeah, probably press kit since I think w1zzard probably has his now from the sound of it), but this line I just saw elsewhere after you had posted it...
"Broke the news: 40% performance increase through the brush bios "
over original GK104 which was within 5% of the 7970 previously.
What is that supposed to mean? A new BIOS boosted the perf. from prior numbers?
Huh...
EDIT And yeah, that's a very good find.
As I said in another thread:
Maybe that 40% has to do with better OC that was made possible by a better fan control?
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show....php?p=2535013
Kyle from [H] got the fact wrong that GTX 680 will be slower than Radeon HD 7970 in 3DMark 11. I think Kyle later soon will finish upcoming GTX 680 review got the impression that GTX 680 is faster than Radeon HD 7970 and will switch to GTX 680 from Radeon HD 7970.
PHK got the first benchmark numbers in for 3DMark11 confirmed GTX 680 will be faster than Radeon HD 7970.
680-> X3200~3300
(7970)-> X2700~2800
670Ti -> X2500~2600
(7950) -> X2200~2300
PHK also mentioned that GTX 680 has max TDP 195W and fan will have low noise.
Impressive if true. It will make for a very interesting round if these are on the money.
PHK doesnt say that..
does it look like PHK to you
http://bbs.expreview.com/forum.php?m...&fromuid=57445
And there my hopings to be able to buy a new GPU for 300 EUR or so or less goes finally down the drain haha, not even the slower model would be priced that low.... 350~380 EUR / $400 USD probably more like...
Based on these numbers I'd expect something like:
GTX 670 Ti ~$399 MSRP
GTX 680 499~$549 MSRP
Your rig is kinda weak then.
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Not sure when 4.4ghz 2600k became weak, but uh, sure. Edit and that is with non bench settings, just normal gaming quality in driver. I am sure your extra cores provide more in 3dmark11 and the Mhz, not to mention high memory speed. Don't know what I would get with bench settings but.... my numbers seem in line with that rumor as my stock 7970 gave me the same thing. Oc was 1240c and 1550m.
low stock + better than 7970 = $699
haha
Don't feel bad Goldentiger. The six core does help and Simby score is unusually high for that speed. It actually third in the world overall on HWBOT.
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/3dmark11_...=0#interval=20
Not to mention atleast in terms of 3dmark 2011 xtreme score, it probably the most higher efficient compared to anyone else on the list in terms of score and speed of GPU AND CPU.
Your score is more inline with everyone else out there.
Has there been any new rumors about if it will stick to the 2 display limit of current individual Nvidia cards?
Rumor: GTX 680 Performance Revealed
http://www.abload.de/img/1cgiaf.jpg
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/11839/nvi...-680-03092012/
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/12590/
Damn so we still wont have a single vid card that can do 120hz in BF3 ...... those BF3 figures dont seem right anyway, I have played on 580 and 7970 and the difference with same settings is larger than 4fps.
:)
I beg to differ, my 7970 on ultra was still 10fps higher than my 580 set one notch down from ultra, so had the 580 been on ultra the difference would have been a little greater (tested at 1920x1200 only)
:)
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/a...7970-review/22
Depends on the location you benchmark at.
unless he's talking gameplay average, which although its a seat-of-the-pants measurement, is much more important.
edit - They used single player to benchmark... Yeah, they're trying for repeatability, but lol.
I was expecting a bit more this weekend than rediscovering previous fakes.
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/44fb364...8068124b78.jpg
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1831876-1-1.html
Yeah, 1 month old rumour ...
Can't be, the colours are totally different, i see two independant sources confirming these specs:ROTF:
^ Probably some1 decided to repost the numbers as they saw the estimate would be very close to the 3DMark numbers haha. I'm so %##&% tired of all these rumors about Kepler, NDA can't end soon enough.
I don't think anyone noticed this from Nvidia yet.
So here's my post from OCUK
Have a look here lads.
The Samaritan demo use to take 3 GTX 580's to run before, Nvidia are claiming they managed it now with a Single Kepler card
http://www.geforce.com/News/articles...dia-kepler-gpu
You're late to the party dude :p:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5064954
Threads move so fast when Kepler is involved haha :p:
Yeah, I posted right when I saw it because I recognized the so called data last night.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5066270
And in 1-2 month from early ES, alpha driver, test samples, just right out of TSMC, the nuimber will not have move an hair... I was think VR is more serious ..
When does NDA lift? Maybe then the BS will stop ..... maybe not ....
:)
Bingo. I can say obvious things that have already been shown in this thread.
As for an NDA, some people like treading closer to breaking it than others. Some lead readers in another direction by posting false info in order to get traffic.
One way or another, one thing is certain: all of this idle talk will be put to bed sooner than many thought..... ;)
I know Obr is more than an avid fan of NV, but he's going crazy over how good these cards are. OC potential is supposed to put HD 7970 to shame, also some new features to lessen the input lag in games etc.
I can tell you with nearly 100% certainty that OBR will not be attending any briefings. As such, all of his info would be coming from potentially dubious sources.
HOWEVER, that isn't to say that NVIDIA doesn't have any tricks up their sleeves. I am just advising everyone not to listen to rumors at this point since this is actually the first launch I have seen where MAYBE 5% of the rumors from sites (Fud, Expreview, VR Zone, SA, OBR, etc.) have been even remotely close to the truth.
I'm not sure I understand you correctly. He's been in SF at the press conference, so assuming reviewers got their cards there, then he has one or at least he should have some information, that was presented there.
Well reading his google translated blog, I thought he meant to write he was not there but got info from someone.
I am really close to getting a 7970 at this point, but I have been waiting to see what both companies have to offer, I hope the nv card will be a bit more silent that's all I could complain about the 7970 too.
Now that only about 5% of the info we got was right from major sites, I'll never even bother about rumors in the future apart from release dates. It seems it keeps getting worse and with that little relevant information it doesn't worth the time.
I'm itching to spend some money on some new card/cards........hate this waiting to see whats what but thats the game i suppose. I can't remember a release where we didn't really have ANY hard facts this close to release,speculation/opinions have been all over the place concering Kepler...strange but kinda exciting.
@skymtl
Indirectly are you still confirming the upcoming presentation of gk110?
Trollface...
Yeah, I realized I worded the question poorly after posting it but didn't want to go back and edit it.
I'll be very glad if this pans out. It would be a really important feature for me but I won't believe it until I see it officially.
http://www.arabpcworld.com/images/20..._BINCHMARK.jpg
SOURCE: http://www.arabpcworld.com/?p=6289
disregard, they do not have a Kepler: Based on data from many sites in the world said that the GTX680 card will come in higher than the performance of HD7970 card behind about 5%
3DMark11 Extreme? Did the 7970 gain so much from drivers? I had it pegged at 2700-2800 points.
Useless chart is useless.
2GB vs 3GB. No matter how fast it is, 2GB doesn't seem like being enough for HD texture packs, 2560x1440 etc
Nvidia should ship this cards wit 3GB.
2GB vs 3GB. No matter how fast it is, 2GB doesn't seem like being enough for HD texture packs, 2560x1440 etc
Nvidia should ship this cards wit 3GB.
I don't want to be the one to say it, but this thread simply teabaggs the Fermi thread :D. I thought it's impossible to over speculate one product(like it was the case with Fermi) ,but Kepler did it. I hope the chip is as good as the hype is.