Why not grab a nice DFI and play with CLK Skew options :D I think I'm starting to figure out my X48 T2RSB Plus!
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Why not grab a nice DFI and play with CLK Skew options :D I think I'm starting to figure out my X48 T2RSB Plus!
I have been swinging back and forth between three options, T2RSB Plus, Rampage Extreme, and also considering the UD3P. It is such a hard call to make. I'd love a nice X48 DDR2 board to complement my P45's, I'd love a better P45 for some high FSB/ram clocks like radaja is pulling off, and I'd also love a proven X48 platform with great capabilities.
Many tks CryptiKQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Yes, if it works, i will loose some speed, but, in compensation, i will ( hope ) get 6G.
Tks also for the vNB info!:up:
Merry Cristhmas!:cool:
@Mordorr
Nice to see a fellow CDFreak/Plextor fan here at XS!
No problem. I didnt explain it very well, its 4:30am here and I'm half asleep, I think you knew what I was trying to say but I'll just clarify it anyway. You will have to run the entire 6GB at the voltage/timings the 2 x 2GB kit requires, as there is no way the 2 x 2GB kit will run the same settings your 2 x 1GB D9 kit can manage. Hopefully the modules will be compatible with each other and the board and you won't have any issues other than a decrease in speed and the need to run looser timings. If it works it will take a bit of tweaking to get right but if you're lucky it will work.
Merry Christmas to you too :D
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Originally Posted by Mordorr
It's good to see someone else running an NVidia board! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by CL3P20
Which voltages did you use? ( vdimm, vNB )
You got a nice FSB speed, but you might want to work a bit on your timings. At least for a quick Everest bench command rate 1T could be possible. And you should be able to run 4-3-3-10, also try to lower your tRC as that's a nice way to boost bandwidth on 680i/780i. :up:
Today I was playing a bit with my board too, but it's not behaving very well, vdroop is huge and I wasn't able to boot 3.6GHz ( I didn't want to set voltages >1.55 in BIOS ). I tried to get 1T stable at DDR2-1000, but even with scary NB volts and relaxed timings I didn't succeed.
The board is quite old now, maybe I will get myself a new board for Christmas like Cryptik.
However, I managed some nice runs at a lower CPU frequency, just playing with MemSet. I used two Crucial Ballistix Tracer 5300 modules ( 16FD2 ).
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7...u5300trzl8.jpg
By don_dan at 2008-12-22
Next screen, read bandwidth and latency is a bit better:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3...ru5300thb0.jpg
By don_dan at 2008-12-22
I tried 5-3-3-12 at 600MHz, but didn't get it benchstable ( yet ), and ran out of time. I will try it again tomorrow! :)
I'm loving my new DX X48 T2RSB Plus, and it seems to love my Cellshock 8000 CAS4 kit :D
Looks like a nice board that dfi, i would love to try a x48 board. I have noticed that those nvidia 680i 780i 790i have amazing memory bandwidth, 790i looks like a good board to.
Lots of bandwidth does not mean the best performing system overall ;) I would always stick with a intel chipset. I've found whatever the chipset lacks in raw bandwidth it makes up in other areas vs. other chipsets.
Ok i would like to see some side by side comparisons of the 790i all performances run agains a p45 and x48 i would love to see those results.
vdimm @ 2.27vQuote:
It's good to see someone else running an NVidia board!
Which voltages did you use? ( vdimm, vNB )
You got a nice FSB speed, but you might want to work a bit on your timings. At least for a quick Everest bench command rate 1T could be possible. And you should be able to run 4-3-3-10, also try to lower your tRC as that's a nice way to boost bandwidth on 680i/780i.
SPPv @ 1.4v
..Unfortunately, I cannot run 1T with my Ballistix at any speed :( ...I have a some Team and some Dominators for testing as well though..so maybe I will get lucky! ** I also, posted a 11.484sec 1mil with that screen shot.. timings at 4-3-3-5 ... tRC @ 10 ..tRFC @ 30. I was too busy trying to get 1st HWBot for E7400, I didnt bother to take full Read/Write shots in Everest. :doh:
BTW- I am loving the mobo so far..hoping to get this E7400 on DICE before the new year. *thumbs crossed*
Best way to do that is somebody who can grab a 790i and already has a good P45 board. (or vice versa :D )Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
I have a p45 now, im going to grab a 790i and run both boards thru all the test, and see what happens, im very curious, my guess is the 790i will beat the p45 in 90% of the test, we will see.
:yepp: 790i will beat the p45 easyQuote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
in ddr2 p35 and x38 beat p45 so ...;)
Thats what i thought, but i think the x48 and 790i would be very close.
Remember guys everest is only a synthetic bench, to really real world test the systems side by side, run some SPI32M benches :D
The 790i may outscore the P45 in read bandwidth (although it will also have lower write & copy bandwidth than P45), but this does not necessarily translate to better real world performance.
Your correct, but i believe the 790i will beat the p45 in super pi also, the 790i is a pretty solid chipset, unlike the old 780i, we shall see im going to pick up one tomorrow and start testing.
Hi all!
I'm using a DFI p45 board too!
I really love my cellshock C4:
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9748/650mv4.jpg
Nice 1m pi run, my board wont come close to that time, i can barely break 10
Thxs!
My best Spi1 with tight timings!
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9327/spi1560as1.jpg
Tk you all!
Yes, i will, of course, use the specifications of the 2x2 kitt ( someone can say, if they are Micron ? )
OFFTOPIC:
Shiranui Gen-An :
Yes, im also cdfreak member!
The Plextor has some issues with the tray, but nothing beats him in DL burns!!
Merry Crhistmas all!!
pvhk,very nice.
It all depends how everything is set up. I know I can get my P45 performing very similarly to an X48. Like I said masses of bandwidth to not mean the best performing system overall, there are far too many factors to be considered and adjusted to use something as linear as bandwidth and say "this system performs better because it has more bandwidth". Somebody could have less bandwidth, but more CPU speed, thus, the system with more CPU power would do better in a lot of CPU tests. Swings and roundabouts.
thxs radaja!
this thread is of great help for best tweak...
pvhk,it sure is.put it this way,up untill a year ago i had never owned or used a computer.i bought a compaq presario from walmart for 789$ full system,amd single core proccessor,(mon,keyboard,mouse).six 1/2 months ago i came across this website,and saw what people were doing with intel processors and decided to try and build my own system.thats all it took, I WAS HOOKED.after getting the hang of cpu OC.i decided to try this memory stuff.i bought some D9,and that was it ,I WAS HOOKED. and this thread helped out so much in the with my memory overclocking,as did many members,im sure they all know who they are.help which i greatly appreciate,Overclocking systems is very addictive,exspensive but at the same time highly rewarding and a whole lot of fun! thank you eveyone and have a happy holiday season.
600 CL4 done:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/469756.png
Done with Team Xtreem DDR 2 1066mhz CL5 D9GKX Green PCB(2.7xvdimm:rofl:),E8500 E0,IP35 Pro,PL7:D
Not bad for Christmas?:ROTF:
Everest benchie at this setting:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...05-6CL4PL7.png
Some AQ3 action with 590mhz CL4:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...8-10262501.jpg
Yet to max out:D
OC4/3
Well done, mate! But something strange because of I have the same Read and Write speeds but Copy is 10500.
It is so because of Intel need more Mhz and tight timings don`t affect. Nvidia chipset would have done a great job with 600mhz cl4.
Just checking, its the 3:5 diver that is bugged on P45 mobo's?
fatguy1992,you are correct 3:5 is the bugged divider on the p45 chipset..
Just wondering, how can it be bugged? Like WTF did Intel do/not do?
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Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Something to do with my board,for some reason,Abit IP35 Pro always have a lower copy:shrug:
fatguy1992,thats a good question. I really dont know why its bugged, but i think i know someone who might just know(cryptik).maybe he has some insight into this issue.
True, lets hope Cryptik can answer our question :)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4...7143432vb9.png
too bad that one is not actual ddr2 speed, actual speed is 411x3 = 1233MHz (instead of 411x3.33 1368MHz), just try it since the memory multi 3.33x still exists in this board's bios.
it's sure like a chipset bug, but i don’t know the technical detail behind this either.
but i think everyone agree, i also think motherboard makers also knows pretty well about this chipset bug.
WaterFlex, what about the latency results (with default tREF) in your P45 board?Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1...7133630dj8.png
Could someone have a look at my 24/7 RAM settings and tell me what u think? Also what sub-timings should I change?
I'm wanting 2 keep my vdimm at 2.0v, but I could use 2.1v if I want, cause i have a 133CFM fan blowing on them :D.
BTW this is 4GB (4x1GB) of my CellShock PC2-8500 RAM.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...uy1992/1-1.jpg
I hope u can read the pic, I wish photobuckect would stop making them bad quality :mad:.
I would say your timings are fine, you can pass memtest fine ? you might be able to drop you TRFC a tad bit.
I haven't tried memtest yet. I'll run some stability tests later. Also I got TRFC at 40.
I'v changed over 2 only 2 stick now 2 see what they can do. Atm i'm at 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v, i'm hoping for 1250MHz, but i'll have 2 change my FSB.
You should be able to run all 4 sticks at 1200, maybe higher, i was able to run 4x1 at 1300.
I did, but I had to rasie my MCH volts to make it stable, but then i'd have to change my MCH reference and so on and I CBF atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
well im using the ep45t-ud3p, the ddr3 version, i left everthing on auto except mch voltage, cpu voltage, and memory divider and timings, i never even changed mch ref and all that stuff, and i hit 590fsb pretty easy. Sure if i played with the other voltages i could get more, but im just looking for 24/7 stable now. That board you have is a monster overclocker, but that quad will limit you, i would try to get 1200 4x1 stable, to me 2gigs aint enough, at least not in vista thats for sure.
crucial,cellshock have changed their chips
what else stays ?
i think only Teamgroup
I only have XP 32-bit :D
I'll get it stable tomorrow, to tired atm.
Can someone tell me why I can't even boot with my Cellshock Pc8000 5-5-5 with divider 3:8 and stock settings?It should get me an 533 DRAM Frequency.
And to start my machine, I need to clear cmos and select another divider..
i just got 4x 1GB Tracers, D9 BL12864AL1065.16FD3
however, i didn't know that the X38 (gigabyte) boards were crap when it come to installing 4x1GB 1066 memory. It won't post at all with all four in, does anyone know a way around this?
All the sticks are good, memtested.
You should be able to run all 4 sticks, i was able to run 4 sticks in my p45 gigabyte, did you loosen up the timings alot and try ?
Well, its taken me some time (too long really) but I'm finally getting a Wolfie. Tomorrow is when I will order one, likely on next day shipping :D
yeah, i tried. All four sticks are good, the person i bought them from had a EX38-DS4 and had the same problem, but they worked like champs on his X48 rampage. :hammer:Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
I'll probably sell them, double sided tracers should be easy to get rid of :up:
I haven't done it, but they all work and the guy said he ran a full pass of memtest..
CPU has been shipped and arrives tomorrow :up: Lets hope I can get her to hit 4G without too much discomfort!
E7200 installed and running. Made in Costa Rica not Malaysia and her badge is SLAPC, not SLAVN. Will report back after letting her settle in with OCCT for half hour.
Heres my opening bet since moving from the house of Allendale to the house of Wolfdale
Here's my 24/7 setting with Team Xtreem 2GB DDR-1066 (D9GMH).,and some everest benching.,is it ok?or i missing something here..
New results folks. 10k bandwidth cracked across the board :toast:
E8600 stock cooling
4X1Go Vdim 2.35 volt
http://just.dod.it.free.fr/E8600/screen029.jpg
cellshock pc8000 C4
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8746/654ts3.jpg
Blimey... never thought this thread would keep growing an growing like it does, its almost as big as the P5Q mBIOS thread :eek:
Beyond 4Ghz barrier.,but not very impressive..
You should be able to run a lower PL, TRFC is loose too.
And it will keep grownig. I have never owned D9s before and my intention is to get at least one set of each of the good ones; hopefully D9GKX this week, and D9GMH later. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
An update for the 4.23Ghz with PL8 and 10k read score..:up:
My 535x7.5 result..quite happy with it..
Nice results there:D My sh...y P5Q non pro looks like she doesnt like D9GMH. I have pair of Crucial Value 667 CL5 2x1GB(D9GMH), and they cant go more then 1100 on this mobo.With SuperTalent ddr2 800( PowerChip i can hit 600FSB(1200ddr2) easy). Any experiences with P5Q non pro??
Sry for my bad english:D
nice one ezaleina,great memeory results you got there.
Tq so much bro radaja.,yeah.,its my 1st time oc over 600mhz.,i learn a lot from u guys here.,tq so much..Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
see if you can lower your TRFC to 30-35 :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaleina
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...6/everyday.jpg
every day settings. 2.19v (ram is rated to 2.2)
d9gmh crucial lanfest aka NEWEGG RAM. rated for pc6400 :p
1200 5-5-5-5
hows some 11k across the board?
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...76/occrazy.jpg
shall i go higher? im still at 2.19v
Been playing with ddr3 recently, had to make the switch, got me a striker 2 extreme, pretty sweet board, great bandwidth and latency on this board:up: I do miss my xtreme team 1300s.
I haven't YET been able to get the heatspreaders off my Cell Shocks (1000MHz CL5 kit) so I don't know if they are GKX or GMH, but they are absolutely :up:. Did some quick benches with 2.2v (I will go no higher for the moment) and surprisingly I see a drop in SPI performance going from 4GB CL5 to 2GB CL4. :shrug:
DDR 950 4-3-3-8 2T 2.2v
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...9hn4_3_3_8.png
FINALLY! You guys will have seen this many times before but this is the first time I've ever managed sub 10s 1M, and it's all thanks to Micron D9. :D Tightened tRC and tRFC just a tad and went from 10.1s to what you see below. Needed 1.5v in BIOS for the CPU so won't be doing that again in a hurry lol. :yepp:
4.7GHz (495x9.5) DDR 990 4-4-4-8-2T
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...5x9nhSUB10.png
Nice clocks you got there, guys :up:
11k Read is nice !
I now have confirmation of which ICs my memory uses :D
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...nnyRhys/HS.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...nnyRhys/IC.jpg
cellshock PC8000 C5:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5...5650zx9.th.jpg
teamgroup pc9600:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8...clubty3.th.jpg
1300MHz C5 at stock volts :eek: very nice
I'm not going near 2.3v on this mobo so I'm trying to get the best I can with 2.1v. The GKXs seem to love CL4...just did an hour of prime at 906MHz 4-3-3-10 2T with 2.1v, going to try the same again with 4-3-3-8. :up:
Hey lenny, how did you get those spreaders off? I have the proper screwdriver to get those weird screws out but on each spreader 2 of the screws seem to be jammed in an my special 'driver just chews the heads up :shrug:
Yeah the screws are not easy to work with. You need to push down pretty hard to make sure the head of the screwdriver engages with the screws - it took me a while to actually get the screws turning. I thought I had the wrong size fitment at first, but it just needed a little more encouragement :D
I give up on RAM overclocking. No matter what I try my UD3P and P5E could not do over 1333MHz. Even 3v didn't work, i'v tried every other reference or volt.
So I give up.
dont give up boy :D
fight until death
I did (kinda) i don't know what else to try :shrug:.
When you say "do over 1333" do you mean simply being able to boot and bench, or are you looking at some semblance of stability??
I meant being able to load windows and bench.
Giving up is a sign of weakness... :p:
I know, i'v spent weeks tho.
If I could see someones BIOS settings (and I mean all the BIOS settings) for 1400MHz on a UD3P/R (that can at least run Everest benchmark) i'd give it ago. But I haven't found any.
Could be because I have a 65nm quad and its to hard on the MCH to run it and the RAM?
PS i'm getting a E8500 soon.
Its obvious, but have you tried a TRFC in the 45-60 range?
Yep its been above that too.
I tried maxing out my primary timings (7-15-15-72), not sure about the last one, but something like that and it still didn't help.
Also I can even do 1066MHz @ 4-4-4-12 @ 2.3v, but on my P5E I could do 1111MHz +.
Probably DIMM power regulation implementation is a bit flaky then.. a good BIOS could probably top you up to 1080-1100, but something in hardware deffinately doesn't seem as strong.
My CellShocks sticks are fine. On my P5E any 1 stick could do 1300MHz 5-5-5-15 W/ only 2.21v +- 0.02v (windows).
Maybe I have a massive vdrop on my RAM :confused:.
Anyone know a program to measure vdimm on UD3P?
Possible. Like I said, something in hardware deffinately isn't as strong. Time to bust out the multimeter methinks :D
I don't have one :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
and I don't have enough money for one.
you dont have to get the 100$ oneQuote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
i seen some as cheap as 10$;) they should be good enough
I have -$230 :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Stop buying so many sticks of RAM then :p:
wait ti'll u grow up n buy a house u be -500000$:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
good thing i paid mine off :D i can get more ram
LOL
Atleast its not as bad as my -$2000 back in 06 :(.
I'm going to give it one last go in a few hours.
Just have some questions.
1. DRAM Clock Skews, do they help? If so what should I set them to for 1400MHz +
2. Is there any other volt but MCH and vdimm i'll have to adjust?
3. Data/Cmd/Ctrl/Clk Driving Pull Up Level?
4. Data/Cmd/Ctrl/Clk Driving Pull Down Level?
5. tRD Phase 0/1/2/3 Adjustment?
6. Trd2rd/Twr2wr/Twr2rd/Trd2wr Different Rank?
I'v tried playing around with these, but its hard when theres lots of different options and I have no idea whats good/bad etc?
Thanks
They do help, but its all experimentation to see what works and what doesnt. Especially with skews and pull up\down levels. For sub timings try something like 42-4-8-4-4.
OT: these Team Extreem sticks are D9GMH: http://www.memoryc.com/products/desc...kit/index.html
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/team_xtreem.jpg :)
I'll give a shot later...
Cellshock D9GKX this time higher MHz at CAS5, still 2.2v - love it :up:
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...005_5_5_15.png
I have two pair of double-side 1GB Tracers. The one w/o the clamp. Which version of D9 are they or do I have to tear off the spreaders to find out?
Ok i'll give it another go when I finish work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Thanks
Try to find them in google before you tear off the heatspreaders - you don't want to damage the ICs :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by PizzaMan