i hope a newer bios may make things easier.
i didn't pay £166 to overclock a dual core!
the asus p5k-e wifi for £85 could do it as well, plus giving a lot of extras
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i hope a newer bios may make things easier.
i didn't pay £166 to overclock a dual core!
the asus p5k-e wifi for £85 could do it as well, plus giving a lot of extras
Someone over at my forums said that their board shows as a UT now, so might be better not to flash until I find out the details, although, I suppose you could always flash back if needed :D
which version of bios us the guy in anatech video ?
he had MCH values and me NOT !! i have bios of 20/3/2008...
i tried it all zanza always 1 error in memtest on every pass
i can do 1150 with d9gct lol
i gave up hope with d9gkx on this board mushkin and kingstons
the good thing i havent had dead d9s for 5 months now lol i was averaging 2 months per set on gigabyte @ 2.24v :rofl: :rofl:
MCH Vref 1/2/3 Value
where are this values ???? i dont have those on voltage control pannel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a 9800GX2 and have ran Vista 64 bit without issues such as you've described. Have you tried a fresh install of vista 64 since the issue started happening? What about making sure both floppy drive connectors are connected to your mainboard for extra power? Are both of your power leads (2) connected to the top of the card as well? Have you also tried to swap slots the card sits in? Did you check to make sure the green LED on the back side of the card is lit confirming the 2 power connectors are right?
I did have an odd FPS issue that would come up out of nowhere, usually 1-2 days, and every game i played was -30fps from what it was previously and the screen would turn to utter chop. System restore back to original install and same :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I'd create a restore right after i verified my frames were silky smooth too. I went to XP 64 bit and haven't looked back and everything runs better =) I'm pulling 91FPS in COD4 @ 2560x1600 on my Samsung 30". S i L k Y!
I had that 30 fps issue on my MF. I had to reinstall directx to fix it.
With a clean install it does the same thing, It locks at boot up if the nvidia drivers are installed. When the drivers are not installed vista x64 boots fine. I'm only using one graphics card (so I'm not using the extra 5 pin connectors) and yes it's plugged in correctly. The system won't even post if the 8pin and 6pin connectors are not connected.
nah dude..
anandtech lately.. their clocking is really bad
look at that 500fsb 1200mhz CL5 clocks
i can do it with latencies less than 50..
they left everything at auto.. thats y...
hmm they even change their stand on cpu vdroop ..
last time they said to disable it for 45nm's
their trd setting too lax..
trd 7
7-5/(6/5)>2.75(6/5)
42/6 - 25/6>13.75/6
so its doable ..
just need more vcmh and vdimm..
Is there anyway to read SB temps? My Enzotech SB HS is cool to the touch but it would be nice to see an actual temp. Also, is there any software that will control the other fans attatched to the MB? We have control over the rear case, CPU, and NB fan but there are two others that i'd like to have control over as well.
Axis
First i see this
Then I see this:
You basically say Raja is a hopeless overclocker then you admit you can not do the clocks you say you can....which is it?
You know the test suit they run over at Anandtech is brutal, you guys living on the ragged edge would never be able to run all the benches and stability tests they do...plus remember they are not catering for on the edge people, they show what the board can do that is 100% stable ;)
I hope you were not running 2.4V into your flex modules as you just broke your warranty ;)
oops didnt mean to touch a offend anyone .. hmm maybe should have worded properly.. was kindda in fit with the physx card when i wrote that.. sorry to both of ya
but i was just refering to that dfi x48 review
just the ram part i find it unfair..
at least with the DFI p35 they went right to the sub timings.. settings etc.
anyways just enabled the vdroop since they change their stance on that.
cause this mobo rocks for rams as far as i concern.
yeah i know those guys run brutal test like for 3 days etc..non stop
anyways this is my stable 24/7 for 3dmark06 which i think is awesome
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...post&id=457645
the 2nd problem for the cmos corruption was because of the 9800gx2 and a azuntech xi-fi card..
realised that now only after i tried a physx card...
redid it the whole day so anytime i use the second pcie for 9800gx2
and the last pci slot for physx or the azuentech ..
i get cmos corruption..
problem was solved by moving back the 9800gx2 to the first pcie
vantage scores - Performance Preset
http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19
new drivers 175.12 just increased my sm2 scores..
quote:-"the 2nd problem for the cmos corruption was because of the 9800gx2 and a azuntech xi-fi card"..
yeah everytime i clear cmos or if it resets it self i loose my azun prelude card driver and sound controller ! some may see , big deal just reinstall the driver and plug and play will find the controller , no way hozay !! windows doesnt plug and play , the driver doesnt install, its a massive headache.
so now i just uninstall it before overclocking then install it after wards. its the only way .amazing sound card though .
just curious did u have that issue with it?
Have you two disabled the onboard sound?
news about the new bios ??
yeh same i disabled onboard sound. u wouldnt believe this , after posting my comment on my sound card , i went into bf2 , plugged my mic in and this screeching noise went threw my speakers, my whole system crashed lol i had to reboot 5 times to get it going. now i have no sound at all. drivers are ok i reinstalled them there fine. hope i didnt kill my card. damn its brand new.:(
yeah i think i killed it theres no sound at all. :banana::banana::banana::banana:
I was playing around last night trying to get my board to do 8x500 and all i kept getting was a nasty beep and C1 post code. I couldn't get it to go away for the life of me.
What kind of beep?
Try with one stick of RAM.
Also, do a battery out CMOS clear, it can often fix problems like that :)
Can any1 tell me the best way to flash my bios pls as ive never done it on a DFI . So is winflash or diamond flash the way to go ??
Cheers all...
I reset the CMOS and could get it to boot normally again but nothing i have done so far will get me booting at 500FSB. I selected another strap so my ram was running around 1000'ish, tweaked up the nb volts to 1.6, and added a little more cpu vid. I'll have to play around with it again tonight.
This is the method i use and it's a no brainer... http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1136
Is there any word on that new BIOS yet? :)
Guys I feel I need to jump in here.
X48 is no P35 for when it comes to clocking memory (DDR2) on the whole, I have tested lttest.bin (new bios) and it does help with higher density modules BUT its no P35 for ease of getting the clocks you want.
Even with the re-spin for X48 I still feel its a DDR3 chipset, and a dual core CPU chipset also as the load quads place on the NB and FSB just ruins how these boards clock.
A prime example is 1600EB 4GB kits, they clock easy with dual cores, put a quad in the board and the issues start. Same with 4GB ddr2 kits, start clocking over 1050 or so and the issues start...especially with a quad core CPU.
Oskar has worked some wonders with the new bios you will see soon, I did hit 1200 with flex2 using it where I can not even do 1100 in rampage formula, but it was not as straight forward as it was in the LP35 LT or the Foxconn MARS I tested.
X48 has limits, try to remember this.
@Tony
I just bought two of this kit
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...pc_4gb_edition
I hope i don't have any problems to run them at least at stock settings (1066)
currently using my E8400 at stock too.
should I up my nb voltage before installing them?
any advice/pointing me to more info would be perfect.
also,
i want to thank you for all these articles you have written (since P5b dlx)
as they have helped me a lot.
great work
you need the new bios which should be up soon, Oskar tuned the board to help overclocking PSC IC's like the ones we use on the 1066 reapers you quoted there.
I will try to post guides for these and the 1150 flex2 over at the ocz forum to help those looking for settings...BUT remember, im not interested in CPU overclocking so those who moan that they can not hit the CPU clocks with the ram where they want it will be asked to test with CPU's (quads especially) at near stock speeds due to the nature of the chipset.
totally agree with that
you are not responsible with motherboard/cpu capabilities
i suppose higher nb voltage and/or relaxed tRD will help for a nice 450 fsb and memory close to stock -> 1080mhz
so i need the newer bios to run even at stock settings everything?
i have exams next month and I don't want to risk a bios update (even dfi has never turned my down on that part)
Thanx for the info Tony, much appreciated.... :up:
I have dumped my Quad last week and awaiting a 8500.... :D :yepp:
A quick question Tony, will the new BIOS help Micron D9 chips in anyway ? (I will keep 2 out of my 4 sticks aside as I have no need for 4GB now anyway) :p:
anybody running this board with a 4gb gskill set?
I'm running a set of 2x2 8500's right now and I'm making small headway on getting things stable. I finally hit my 4ghz mark tonight and it'll run 4+ hours until it bombs out in blend mode so I'm tweaking the GTLs a bit.
Has anyone else noticed how far off Anandtech's GTL refs are from the ones that Clunk has posted up? If you do the math things just don't add up and not close enough to one another. I know these charts are "starting points" but i'd think they would be a bit closer.
Also the anandtech chart is green / yellow (they mislabeled the gtl refs but oh well). The green and yellow look to be the diff values of 61% and what it would be at 63% right? If that's so then why are the real vtt measurements off for the same bios vtt? Someone clear this up for me as it's very late heh.
Any updates on what the new bios brings, besides a UT board:D ?
Axis
thanks Big Lar, Pnot
The GTLREF chart at Anandtech is for the X48 board. There are a couple of points of confusion relating to the values furnished by DFI. I'll try to post more on this in a bit. But the bottom line is for 45nm processors the values at Anandtech wil give the user a good starting point.
Im running the test bios on the X38, just a little more NB voltage needed on the X38 ;)
It was tuned to clock 2GB modules better, which it does...im revisiting the clock skews to see how much they help also as Raja is telling me he can see decent FSB increases by some tweaking.
The issue with bios files as open as this though is you are forced to tweak, a lot of this stuff IMO should be by auto as most end users just have no idea.
New Price $329.99 on the DFI LanParty UT X48 T2R
Why would they post p35 GTL refs in an x48 article... that makes no sense at all to me.
I'm eager to see what's going on with these values. Thanks Praz!
*EDIT* I found this over on the DFI forums and it would explain why the values are different in both clunks and anands charts.
http://www.csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6538
i thought the gtl chart at anandtech was geared towards ppl using micron d9s
am I wrong?:shrug:
Two things I noticed about the VTT/GTL voltages provided by DFI. The charts specify 67% as a set-point for GTLREF. These values correspond to a 65nm CPU. Yet the chart starts at 1.10V. 1.10V is the default VTT voltage for 45nm processors.
The other anomaly is the actual voltages vs set VTT themselves. Two that stand out are 1.35(1.310) and 1.553(1.508). Try as I may, I cannot reproduce these results. Using a 45nm CPU and selecting 1.350V I get the same measured voltage of 1.339V as the chart at Anandtech. All other measured voltages compare similarly to the values shown in the chart at Anandtech.
I'm not even able to venture a guess as to why there is such a difference in these measured voltages. The only variable that comes to mind is the reference point chosen to measure the voltage. I can't speak as to the equipment other use to measure the voltages but I normally use either a 350MHz or 500MHz bandwidth scope. Regardless where I measure at on the board I don't see more then a couple of thousands of a volt difference between the various points of measurement. This being the case is seems unlikely that the difference in voltages could be attributed to the reference point selected.
This GTL stuff isn't rocket science as far as tuning in the BIOS. What makes it difficult for most users is there is no known starting point of values. Those that have no means of measuring the default values need to find a chart that works for them and fine tune from there. Users who do have the capability of measuring the voltages need to remember that consistency is the key. Pick a point from the various photos available and use only that point as a source of measurement. The accuracy of the measuring equipment that the average user has at their disposal and the loading effect that equipment has on the circuit is going to induce more of an error then where you choose to measure at. As are the board to board tolerances. The same applies to the point chosen for ground. And don't use the case or something like the video card bracket as a ground point.
Here is my latest stable.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/379/4gzco3.jpg
I kept getting a failure after 2 - 2.5 hours and my games would crash but not BSOD windows. I remember in a previous post in these forums that someone mentioned bumping up VTT a notch or two to provide stability. 1.16 VTT and the proper gtl refs fixed those crashes and 8+ hours and counting.
I still need to tweak out my ram for sure and also push the cpu harder but i'm pretty happy with getting 4ghz stable so far.. shesh it's took a long time.
A much easier way to understand is this.
Imagine a cloths line with items hung on it... the line is the FSB and the items are the cores on the CPU and the chipset. Adjusting GTL strengthens the hold each item has to remain on the line...incorrect settings the items fall off the line.
Its a fine balance to keep everything sitting sweet on the FSB, each item has to be tuned at high FSB bus speeds as you are at the upper end of its tolerance.
pnot you runnin real hot there on nb n pwm personnally i never saw mine go over 38 even @ 1.6v
from my testing gtl settings are forgiving @ low fsb the higher you go the tighter setting after 500 you gotta be verry precise but still the board is forgiving on dual cores much tougher on quads
i can be off by 10 n i will still boot as long as the other settings relate
once each setting dont relate you wont boot
1 wrong setting is like having a flat tire
from what i noticed the higher the setting for 65nm the hotter the board gets but its more stable
Hmmm, I might need to adjust my exhaust fan and put another fan on my TRUE for push/pull. At the moment i only have 1 fan pushing and nothing on the NB at all. I'll also check the other posts in this forum to see what average is.
I keep forgetting which is which... NB is chipset and PWM are system?
Thanks for pointing that out.
Yes NB= chipset and PWM= system
Just saw them again at Motherboardpro for $315 now!!!!! must resist...lol
http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ail-p-618.html
I am so happy with my X-38 version that it makes it tough to think of moving to another board even though I know it would be better.
bios bios for mCH ?
Probably not happening in the next few days and it will not do for you what you want anyway, which is the dream of enough FSB to push a small multiplier cheap cpu faster. The whole design of the X48 chipset was to have its' best performance in the 466 FSB range which was the natural progression from 200, 266, 333, 400 and then 466, since Intel designs both the cpu and the chipset.
Hi, read through most of the thread and i see alot of happy tweaking going on, great! :)
I am looking to build my next system around an E8500 with a pair of Ballistix 4GB tracers and would like to know if it's a :up: or should i wait for P45.
Thanks :)
you not runnin a quad so should be much cooler
put a 120mm fan on nb your temps will drop @ least 10c waste of money to get an hr-05 ifx
me i got a 100++++cfm fan on my true:D it sounds like a helicopter on full lol n it weighs a pound lol
add a fan push them volts lol
ya i know exactly what you mean just saw a sale on the 8400 for 198$ i almost pushed the buy button:eek:
n when the p45 come out gonna be so hard not to get one of those:rofl:
i just hope i can resist more than a few weeks after they come out:rofl: gonna be tough
i'm a junkie but i only smoke pc parts:eek:
Hello, I just got this mobo after a terrible experience w/ a 790i S2E. The board itself is awesome, overclocked with easy and no regrets so far. My only problem is I can't shutdown my computer. After I log off from Windows, you can hear 2 clicks coming from the mobo, it shutdowns and restarts after 2 sec. I disconnected the rainbow cable, to make sure there's no short, and same thing. Does anyone a fix for this or do I need to RMA?? Many thanks in advance.
most of you guys don't have the 5v power connector by the pci-e slots connected right? I don't
just trying to see if i'm the only one..
In all those pages here I never saw this problem in this board. Is this a FRESH windows install?
PS.: I like your Avatar by the way :up: PENTA!
I think everybody uses them, when DFI board asks for more power you don;t hesitate in giving to it...
Anyone has got their UT mobos yet?
my luck suks:rofl: :rofl:
last year i was wishin to have some d9gkx stix
now i got 3 sets and :( :rofl: i just bought a pair of kingston hyperx 3 weeks ago to add to my 2x512 8500hyperx stupid move :rofl:
now i thinkin of gettin some dominators pc2-8500 2x2 lol on sale for 95$
my collectin keeps on growing lol damnit i gotta stop it
I'm having an odd problem with this board and I'm hoping someone else has a fix maybe.
I set my computer to hibernate in the mornings when i go to work but some times from work i use Wake on LAN to get my PC up and running so i can pull some information off of it. The problem I'm having is the first wake works flawless but after i suspend it again and try to wake it doesn't work. The post code shows CF which is CMOS check.
What's that?
I need that beta bios. My ram can pass 1066 stable, and 450+ fsb, but whenever I set it to 333/800 and go past 410 FSB, I get crashes. I've tried EVERYthing. I currently use a NB of 1.30, VTT of 1.35. any higher causes crashes in OCCT. I'll post my bios settings when I can see better (its late).
heres the error code list . i was just looking at it so thought i might as well post it -http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/12434-post9.html
hey , inregards to that 5v power connecter near the pcie3 , my board doesnt have it? theres nothing. are u gys talking about the ltx48? its just not there?
what kind of connector is it?
Hi, all :)
just for sharing, been reading clunk's website.. bought this kickass board..
cheapo 2140@3.4 1.418v (bios), 1.45 (windows):D
http://www.flow-tek.net/E2140%403.4.jpg
i envy u guys.. don't have kickass processor:( , just sold my Q6600 and bought this mobo.. no regrets:up:
thx
holy crap ! cpu 66c? man i panic if mines hits 57c during load! is that a normal temp for that cpu?
:D kinda shock too.. but which should i trust? SG or CoreTemp? its 27c ambient, cheapo thermaltake wc kit:down: but for me 113% overclock with that temp is quite nice;) i don't know.. comptronix' intel temperature guide stated 75c still warm... advice?
Thx
Hello all. Fresh from ASUS MF/Rampage. This is my third Lanparty mobo. I had the 680i LT (horribly slow), X38 LT that died after the first day (88), and now this one here.
I've read through this whole thread and much of what Clunk has to say over at his site--a good use of vacation, wife does not agree--and I can say that I'm going to be very happy with this board.
I am happy to see that the board was made in Taiwan and not China, not too many high quality products comming from China right now. My X38 came out of China as did my Asus MF which was slowly dying over the last few weeks.
So anyway, look forward to contributing and learning...just wish my vacation was not overwith tomorrow:shakes:.
no news of the UT-version yet?
oops sorry dude
i have this is mb but with cpu-z i don't see all information why? :S
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9...ginebk1.th.jpg
What BIOS do you have? I had that problem with the earlier version of CPU-Z and with the X38 board ... but I thought that had been fixed with Frank's latest version of CPU-Z ... ???
last version of bios and cpu-z
@Clunk you have a pm..
have been playing with this board for about 8 hours now (LT)
got a MCW30 on the northbridge.. doesn't go past 32c on full load..
I bought it because I needed a replacement board while my Maximus Formula was in the RMA process. Looks like i'll be selling my ASUS board when it gets back.
This board is a lot better then my maximus, its tons more stable and requires a lot less voltage on the cpu and the northbridge. DFI really improved on their auto settings as well. This board def. rocks. My firewire speed has gone up dramatically.
Is there a memory mapping option hidden somewhere in the BIOS? Both CPUz as well as Everest show that I am using 4 DIMMs but I only show 2200MB of free memory with only 22% usage. Also when I installed the high res mod for HL2/Ep1/Ep2 I got a warning saying that my system did not meet their minimal requirement of 3Gigs of RAM. Thanks....
Sorry, using x64.
12 hours in with this board, and its DEF. better then my Maximus Formula
only gripe is that it didn't come with an extra usb bracket
s'all good , took it from my asus board
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4175/img1329eb0.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2517/img1330lt7.jpg
I switched out my 4 gigs of Mushkins and replaced them with 4 gigs of my Patriot PC2-8500's and its still acting like I am using a 32 bit OS when I am actually using XP x64.
I've looked through the BIOS, I'm using the latest version, and I can't find anything mentioning Memory Mapping. Like I mentioned previously, both everest and CPUz show 4 DIMMs but the usage being reported does not add up and then there was the instance of installing that HL2 mod which reported that I did not meet their 3 gig requirement.
I'm also wondering if this is what was causing VMware to crash when I tried to install Ubuntu.
Any ideas??????