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Originally Posted by Vega
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I think that here wïll be a little changes - no importentQuote:
Originally Posted by Vega
Ok I have been having this problem for a while now, I posted about it long ago but never got an answer. I finally have time for the comp now and it still is having the same problem.
The first few months I had the board it was great...... was getting 270-300fsb 1:1 stable, but after a few months, I turned on my comp one day, and it wouldnt post. The problem is I can't set my memory CAS timing to anything other than 2.......... both 2.5 and 3 it will not even post. This is pissing me off to the point where im going to go out and buy a new mobo if we can't figure this out
Specs:
A64 3500+ winchester
MSI K8N Neo2-939 - bios 1.4b1mod
512*2 DC OCZ 3200 platinum rev2
x800xtpe
OCZ 520 powerstream
OCZ ram booster (uninstalled now)
and have you even flashed the bios dude ?
sounds to me like your bios is corrupt. not sure why your using 1.4b1 hell i havent even heard of 1.4b1
use either 1.36 Rev 4 or 1.8 Rev3 with your winchester those are the 2 best bios's i can recommend.
personally i use the 1.36 rev4 with my venice and it was working fine but now my board is dieing so.. lol..
damn guys i really cant afford a new board right now but im gunna go down to the local scanky trailer trash pc shop and see what they have.
oh yeah and have you tried pulling the ram out and using 1 stick at a time ?
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Originally Posted by mundi
one is the real one and one is the modded one.
wasnt that easy ? lol ;)
the modded one has the hidden options enabled and some memory tweaks done
found the problem.......... seems running daily at high speeds messes up your tccd, it has to be re spd programmed or something. :(
I have the latest bios you modded sideffect and it makes my system run a lot better. I am now at 8x300 with 150 divider and ram at 2.5-3-2-9 @1t and normal driving strength. This allowed me to break the 6000 read mark on everest and the 6000 mark on the sandra bench for the first time with this memory. Great work.
what clockgen version do you use for this? the nforce 3 250 one?
no we do this in the bios.
clockgen is only used for fine tuning or "curious testing"
the bios allows all the overclocking you could ever need aside form LDT Voltages and more memory timings.
I'll try but how long should I run memtest86 for? I'm currently running on my same settings and haven't had any errors in 2 passes, I'm going to try tightening the timings now though, also should I run with 1t or 2t and also DRAM drive strenght should be weak or normal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
update: Ok I've been using 2.5-4-3-8 and the max seems to be around 246mhz, how should I relax it if I want to go higher?
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Originally Posted by uniacid
When I run memtest I normally do a few passes of test 5 then a few of test 8. If it passes that with no errors then I run 2 or 3 full passes.
If it passes all of that, ur ram should be pretty stable.
Run 1t, 2t kills performance.
Test both weak and normal drive strength, all depends what works for u, normal works best for most people though. (Including me)
And I wouldn't run any looser then 2.5-3-3-7/10. Any looser and u lose massive performance. If u need more headroom over 2.5-3-3-7 then use a divider. You will have less of a performance hit.
Hi Sideeffect-thanks for the repy. Im using BIOS 7025.1.BB3 file dates are 29 August.
Sandra is telling me that APIC is OFF so I'm trying to switch it ON. Checked BIOS advanced chipset section and tinkered with the "enable IRQ for PCI" or such like, presuming that APIC. Im not sure of the proper memory address address or memory amount to use.
I've gone down the switching off peripherals (all the SATAS) path just now and previously also did so switching everything possible, even both LANs with the offical BIOS. So if its a BIOS issue its certainly not with your BIOS alone, so I'm not suggesting that for a moment. But Im stuck with no onboard IEEE 1394-doesnt show up anywhere I can see while booting either, e.g in the IRQ list when I hot "pause' and none of the 3 PCI cards from my old rig working in any slot on my new one, either singley, or all together! So I'm perplexed. Even if I somehow put my elbow through the onboard firewire and 3 PCI slots, without noticing, and leaving no visible sign of damage, would that really just make those devices "invisble" in an otherwise stable rig? Sandra shows the PCI slots, just not the cards in them by the way. All USB devices are fine, and AGP of course. I bought the X2 in part for digital video editing, but seem to have lost firewire and the use of my PCI video/TV capture card. Ill try any sugesstion I can afford and follow the logic of. If I could even know what the fault is! Happy to give more info,-should be able to I've just downloaded an ISO of the UBCD. Many thanks indeed.
How big of a performance hit and where exactly? I tried running at 270mhz using lower timings but they didn't seem to work so sell, maybe I need an ocz booster? I might just wait till I can upgrade to a dfi mb and the ocz vx series memoryQuote:
And I wouldn't run any looser then 2.5-3-3-7/10. Any looser and u lose massive performance. If u need more headroom over 2.5-3-3-7 then use a divider. You will have less of a performance hit.
ur right after days of testing i can get 285 7-4-3-2.5 out of these things not complaining they offered me 3ghz stability plus if i upgrade to nf4 i know ddr600+ is in reach..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
i can do ddr600 but only with 2t is that setting really that bad?
plus im playing nfsu at 3ghz with the 183 div so mem is at 271 my x800 aet to 650/580 all i have to sayis :woot: plus with GTR i can 39 cars on screen
with no hicup
very good stuff guy.
all ddr600 ram's that i personally have read about are only rated to run 300mhz 1:1 on the dfi boards or the asus NF4 boards if its an nforce 3 board then you have to run 2T which is just horrible performance.
Now I have run some of the Mainboard utilities from the Ultimaite Boot CD, looking for erros to explain my ongoing invisible/inoperative onboard IEEE 1394 and PCI cards..
The "PC Config" and NSSI Mainboard utilities both show "ROM PCI routing table appears faulty" errors.
More info from thje BIOS section of NSSI:
"Table version OK size 320 bytes OK IRQs assigned to PCI 3,5,7,10,11, 14 +15. IRQs 5 7 10 + 11 showing 2 PCI devices. Table Checksum 44h-FAILED."
Some of that sounds bad. Possibly relevant. Clue me in please anyone on what it means and if it does indeed relate to the firewire PCI card issue...
not really at 300*10 1/1 my games are super fast my guess is the cpu clock makes up for it .plus im getting 7268 read in everest
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just showing what i can boot at. every thing good except test5 with every mhz i go up its like 5 more errors exactly wish i knew more about tccd :confused:
I presume you can handle all those memory tweaks in A64 tweak, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Can you raise chipset voltage in any biosversion?
no there is no chipset voltage settings in a neo2
and no you cant raise chipset voltages with anything in windows.
the only "chipset" is the southbridge which has nothing to do with overclocking. Well, thats kind of not true but the true nature of a southbridge really doesnt effect overclocking really much. The northbridge is what holds your overclocking. But since there is no northbridge on an AMD64 system. :\
There is the trick of raising the AGP voltage to adjust "chipset" voltages. but this has never been a proven fact with the NEO2 boards.
Me personally i stand by my own testing that AGP voltages dont effect overclocks. The only board that i ever knew of right off the top of my head that used the AGP voltages in that way was the DFI 875P-T 775 board. But it's not like ive tested or used a butt load of boards.
MSIMAX -
those are some AWESOME screens. Is that with 1T or 2T ? even with 2T thats some damn fine settings on this board and that chip you have.
way to go, keep it up! How is your performance doing with the X2, seriously is it THAT MUCH better ? or do you really not feel the performance unless your gaming or something. ?
ok I'm starting to really hate this board, I ran it last night fine at 2.7ghz 270mhz fsb, I had to up the timings to 3-4-4-10 so anyways I turn it off b/c last night it was raining, so I turn it on when I wake up and now it doesn't want to work with the exact timings I previously used.... or even timings I used with my FX53, I set the multi to 9 for example to test the mem and at 270 it does not want to work anymore, I think I'm just going to get rid of this board
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Originally Posted by Lestat
those are with 2t . x2 are crazy its like if u over clock to 2.8 u have yourself a fx57 dont forget your overclocked so mem peformance is higher. now
imagine 2 cpus at 3.0ghz ...I make a dvds from my camcorder man this thing flies, just put it this way i cant play need for speed underground till i find a way to slow the screen down ,and this game uses both cpus i run it with task screen open and its about 50/50 usage..
also mem at ddr600 2t i feel its faster than my bh5
I'm currently going to stay stock until I can get a dfi nf4, it doesn't make sense why this board is acting up like that
your saying NFS U 2 actually runs faster cuz its a bug with dual cores?
have you written EA tech support to let them know ?
thats pretty odd. like VERY odd.
I've heard that the X2's were awesome for video encoding and such but have never asked anyone
wish i could afford one cuz id be ordering me one lol.
hell i can't even afford a dfi board so i have aneo2 thats dieing and i cant afford to replace it. i just keep lowering the cpu so it runs stable.... :\
hell i would take another neo2 if i caould get one cheap enough.
i got problems again i get ram beeps but what happens is with my x2 i can only use dimm slot 2. on and off i can use slot 1 then i put my whinnie back in and slot 1 post all the time is this a cpu issuse or the board its not the xblk cause i memtest it and using it to write this i sent my board out for rma before but they said nothing was wrong came back working though. i wish i new if its the cpu or the neo2
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