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11-19-2007, 09:01 PM
weescott

CPU speed is fluctuating like crazy by a half mhz in CPUZ with the 802 bios. I'm sure I saw it fluctuate even more earlier. 701 bios was much better.
11-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Century Phoenix

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Originally Posted by Apoc@

Anybody using a Creative soundcard in the first pci slot?

I have an Audigy 4 pci card, without any problems.
11-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by weescott

CPU speed is fluctuating like crazy by a half mhz in CPUZ with the 802 bios. I'm sure I saw it fluctuate even more earlier. 701 bios was much better.

Dude, You know any bios/motherboard does that right? My P5K did that, My maximus is doing it, and all the other boards i've worked with, a 0.1 - 0.4 Mhz change is normal
11-19-2007, 09:37 PM
weescott

Yes I have had plenty of boards that have fluctuated a little. But not to the extent that its really difficult to get the screen shot at the same speed. When I say it fluctuates like crazy, I mean, it REALLY fluctuates like crazy. FAR more than on the older bios'.
11-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Aldy402

0802 seems as if its just a revised version of 0701
11-19-2007, 10:30 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by weescott

Yes I have had plenty of boards that have fluctuated a little. But not to the extent that its really difficult to get the screen shot at the same speed. When I say it fluctuates like crazy, I mean, it REALLY fluctuates like crazy. FAR more than on the older bios'.

Unless somehow the bios re-enabled speedstep, I don't see the same problem, so it can't be the bios causing it.
11-19-2007, 10:50 PM
ChaosMinionX

Anyone getting better than 55-56ns latencies?
11-19-2007, 10:52 PM
weescott

same bios profile and same OS install. Only change is the bios.
11-19-2007, 11:27 PM
sonicsallen

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Anyone getting better than 55-56ns latencies?

yes
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11-19-2007, 11:59 PM
Grendel66

Quote:

Originally Posted by weescott

Yes I have had plenty of boards that have fluctuated a little. But not to the extent that its really difficult to get the screen shot at the same speed. When I say it fluctuates like crazy, I mean, it REALLY fluctuates like crazy. FAR more than on the older bios'.

CPU Spread Spectrum enabled ?
11-20-2007, 01:12 AM
Nuckin_Futs

@ sonicsallen, I use the same ver. of Everest, but odly, at different FSB'RAM ratios when running RAMBench, I get no reported info for memory bus, type & ratio. Everest lso reports the chipset as just Bearlake, not Bearlake-X or Beachwood as now named.

Do you guys think X48 is gonna' replace X38 in 3 months or just stand beside?
11-20-2007, 01:16 AM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Do you guys think X48 is gonna' replace X38 in 3 months or just stand beside?

depends on how many end up supporting DDR2. If the price is higher I'd say no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

Unless somehow the bios re-enabled speedstep, I don't see the same problem, so it can't be the bios causing it.

I also don't see the problem.
11-20-2007, 01:55 AM
tiesum

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

MAXIMUS FORMULA SE BIOS v0802 @ 11-17-07 Daily user profile, worked since BIOS v0401 to current (see NOTE at botom)

CPU Configuration

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting [7x]
FSB Frequency [500MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [Auto]*
PCIE Frequency [111]
DRAM Frequency [Auto]*

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy [4]
RAS# To CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# Precharge [4]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To RAS# Dlay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]

Scondary Info; 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read To Write Dely(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read(S) [Auto]
Read To Read(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]

DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]*
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]*
Transaction Booster [Disabled]*
Relax Level [0]*
------------------------------------------
CPU Voltage [1.3875v] = 1.368v
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50v = 1.616v
North Bridge Voltage [1.47v]
DRAM Voltage [2.14v] = 2.245v
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40v] = 1.472v
South Bridge Voltage [1.075v] = 1.104v
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.63%]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [ Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5v Voltage [1.55v] = 1.584v

NB LED Selection [FSBT Volts]
SB LED Selection [SB 1.5 Selection]
CPU LED Selection [PLL Volts]

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
-------------------------------
CPU Configuratins:
Virtualization = Disabled*
TM Mode = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
Ex Bit Disable = Enabled*
EIST = (Disabled by BIOS over certain FSB

Notice the Auto settings of FSB strap and RAM Frequency. In this BIOS v0802, I cannot use anything outside of Auto to keep 1:1 so unless, you must have deviders, then Auto is fine for 1:1. Also since every mobo is different, try to adjust the settings as marked by "*". Try DRAM Clock Twister to Light or Auto , or Static REad Control to Auto (this does return better strap scaling for FSB over 450 if strap is left in Auto). Keep RAM Booster to Disable but relax 1, 2 or so on, as needed for stability under overclocking (anything other then "0" does effect RAM scores). CPU, PLL, & vdimm can be tweaked as needed for your components. Settings were the same since BIOS v0401 except I could manual strap and set DRAM Frequency as fixed, although it made no noticable difference for me. Even w/ strap in Auto, RAM deviders are just grouped together in a bigger menu.

Can you E6750 or E6850 users let me know how this works for your mobo?

Hope this helps!

Thanks a lot for this! I just tried it with an FSB of 470 and it works without a problem. My temps are getting 73 stressed now, so tomorrow it's lapping time. I also get my coollaboratory thermal grease then :) . Let's see how it works then. Going up to 500!

One more question. I see a lot of people change the paste under the NB/SB heatsink for AS5. Do you use the regular AS or the adhesive?

Thanks again for new hope:up:
11-20-2007, 02:44 AM
Nuckin_Futs

@ safan80, It's not looking like X48 mobos are gonna be DDR2, (points to DDR3 only) even if the chipset might or can support it. So for us on this mobo w/ X38, looks liek it's gonna' be the best overall stepping stone to X48 on DDR3 and hopefully, ICH10R by summer. X48 on DDR3 should hit shelves aong w/ Penryn release early next year.

I can't see any reason really other then better chipset power usage (lower watts, less heat , so more room to OC, but nothing exciting w/ todays quads unles using good DDR1800. With BIOS fixes coming, X38 will at least pass up P35 in terms of DDR2 overclockability. As DDR2 nears its end, we may see better performing DDR1200 to get us through the middle or end of next year.

I think that rev 2 of the MAXIMUS FORMULA may either be a DDR3 or X48 version. Who's heard anything about this other then from Clunks living review?
11-20-2007, 03:06 AM
thelawns

Ok then, I think most of my issues are memory related to why I can't get my E6550 upto 500FSB. I have been looking at Kingston HyperX 2gb 1200mhz (KHX9600D2K2/2G) but will these work on this board? I see other people have 1200mhz memory installed so I assume they will...
11-20-2007, 03:20 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

@ safan80, It's not looking like X48 mobos are gonna be DDR2, (points to DDR3 only) even if the chipset might or can support it. So for us on this mobo w/ X38, looks liek it's gonna' be the best overall stepping stone to X48 on DDR3 and hopefully, ICH10R by summer. X48 on DDR3 should hit shelves aong w/ Penryn release early next year.

I can't see any reason really other then better chipset power usage (lower watts, less heat , so more room to OC, but nothing exciting w/ todays quads unles using good DDR1800. With BIOS fixes coming, X38 will at least pass up P35 in terms of DDR2 overclockability. As DDR2 nears its end, we may see better performing DDR1200 to get us through the middle or end of next year.

I think that rev 2 of the MAXIMUS FORMULA may either be a DDR3 or X48 version. Who's heard anything about this other then from Clunks living review?

Hi, http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=669218
Chris
11-20-2007, 03:21 AM
Nuckin_Futs

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelawns

Ok then, I think most of my issues are memory related to why I can't get my E6550 upto 500FSB. I have been looking at Kingston HyperX 2gb 1200mhz (KHX9600D2K2/2G) but will these work on this board? I see other people have 1200mhz memory installed so I assume they will...

I haven't got to try an E6550 on this but I know of a friend who has one to 500FSB on a P5K. However, it did look like for them, 500 is the ceiling on FSB before it just hits that wall. My E6750 is showing that at 516 on both this mobo and P5K Deluxe as well a a P35C-DS3R.

Try the settings I posted above for other member but only tweak your vcore as needed to see if it at least restarts and POST to CMOS @ 500x7 or 6x You can try to adjust PLL to you get reported 1.642v and FSBT to 1.504v, keeping GTL Ref to 63x on CPU but try 67x on NB. I believe you might be able to get there just play round w/ it and for testing, try only w/ 1 set of RAMs in yellow slots for stability. We know X38, and this mobo for sure is good to 515FSB stable on 1.5v NB. Only those w/ E6850's are gonna' show what more FSB we can get out of it.

Let me know as I am curious if I can help get another E6550 to 500x7

Clock On!
11-20-2007, 03:35 AM
Simps

OMG, I still can't get my system to POST, after I flashed to 802 BIOS.
System will just not go into POST (so I can't access the bios), and on the LCD POSTER it is locked on DET DRAM...

Has anyone ever had a problem like this?

I really need some help...

[]'s
Simps
11-20-2007, 03:38 AM
thelawns

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

I haven't got to try an E6550 on this but I know of a friend who has one to 500FSB on a P5K. However, it did look like for them, 500 is the ceiling on FSB before it just hits that wall. My E6750 is showing that at 516 on both this mobo and P5K Deluxe as well a a P35C-DS3R.

Try the settings I posted above for other member but only tweak your vcore as needed to see if it at least restarts and POST to CMOS @ 500x7 or 6x You can try to adjust PLL to you get reported 1.642v and FSBT to 1.504v, keeping GTL Ref to 63x on CPU but try 67x on NB. I believe you might be able to get there just play round w/ it and for testing, try only w/ 1 set of RAMs in yellow slots for stability. We know X38, and this mobo for sure is good to 515FSB stable on 1.5v NB. Only those w/ E6850's are gonna' show what more FSB we can get out of it.

Let me know as I am curious if I can help get another E6550 to 500x7

Clock On!

Thanks for those tips. So you think I should get 500fsb out of my current 800mhz memory? I just feel as if its the memory rather than anything else stopping me getting there. The new memory I originally quoted above is out of stock at my supplier but I can get some Kingston HyperX 2gb 1066mhz (KHX8500D2K2/2G) to me for tomorrow. Would this help or not?
11-20-2007, 03:41 AM
thelawns

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=669218
Chris

I just called Scan to ask them what the actual Manufacturer Part number was for this V2 motherboard as the Scan info simply says:

Manufacturer code Maximus Formula SE

The guy said all the info they have is on the screen. I HATE websites that don't tell you the correct Manufacturer Code, you never know if your getting the correct model. :shakes:

He said the only changes were to the heatsinks to help make it more stable. I asked him why they were the only people with a V2 board and he never answered... Bit dodgy that!!!
11-20-2007, 03:56 AM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simps

OMG, I still can't get my system to POST, after I flashed to 802 BIOS.
System will just not go into POST (so I can't access the bios), and on the LCD POSTER it is locked on DET DRAM...

Has anyone ever had a problem like this?

I really need some help...

[]'s
Simps

The problem is that 0802 is trying to use your manually set NB/RAM strap and divider. Clear the CMOS (Power down, hold rear CMOS button in for 10seconds, power up again) and then set the strap to Auto instead of manually setting it.
11-20-2007, 04:46 AM
thelawns

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouGe

HR-05 SLI/IFX

Thermalright

w/ this 80mm fan JMC Pulse width modulated DC fan

NB temps haven't broken 40 degree yet, even at 1.61V (actual).

Is their any chance you could take a photo of your board with this fitted to it and post it up here??
11-20-2007, 05:01 AM
kup

I just mounted 2 80mm fans over my ram, just to give it a little bit of fresh air... The way I posititioned them meant the lower fans also blew slightly onto the NB...and just lowered the temps from 45*c+ to about 33*c!!!

I couldn't believe it...system hasn't been so stable as it is now! Feels much more responsive too!

Does anyone know where the PLL chip is for the FSB? Also, would sinking the 2 Phase vregs for the ram help out at all?
11-20-2007, 05:14 AM
devilhood

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I just mounted 2 80mm fans over my ram, just to give it a little bit of fresh air... The way I posititioned them meant the lower fans also blew slightly onto the NB...and just lowered the temps from 45*c+ to about 33*c!!!

I couldn't believe it...system hasn't been so stable as it is now! Feels much more responsive too!

Does anyone know where the PLL chip is for the FSB? Also, would sinking the 2 Phase vregs for the ram help out at all?

I was hoping for my NB temps to be lower than usual because I have 3 120mm fans on my sidepanel, but it's hard to reduce ambient temps when there are 5 HD's connected to my backplane :D

Sir Kup, how's the modding of the new BIOS coming along? although I'm not sure what on earth is better to use these days, every BIOS has different problems and I'm pretty stable with my setup at the moment. Maybe I should just wait another few months for the next release...

Someone on the ASUS VIP forum apparently posted up the changelog for the new BIOS, and it was the same as the last BIOS... so either ASUS are being vague/lazy or I would severley doubt the authenticity of the post.
11-20-2007, 05:23 AM
thelawns

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I just mounted 2 80mm fans over my ram, just to give it a little bit of fresh air... The way I posititioned them meant the lower fans also blew slightly onto the NB...and just lowered the temps from 45*c+ to about 33*c!!!

I couldn't believe it...system hasn't been so stable as it is now! Feels much more responsive too!

Does anyone know where the PLL chip is for the FSB? Also, would sinking the 2 Phase vregs for the ram help out at all?

Can you explain how you mounted the fans, or maybe even take a photo, thanks???

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