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08-31-2005, 04:35 AM
Lestat

well i finally friggin did it.
finally got my video card going
i just gave it a shot of "act right" and now its acting right

i flashed it with the same bios i had in my old BFG 6800 GT that was a killer card.
now whats really screwed up is that i had done this already several times about ohhhh..... .... over a month ago, but it wasnt this card it was another 6800 Ultra...

so.. i now have finally broken 6000 in 3dmark 05 and 14,000 in 3dmark 03.

man talk about being really ticked off at a video card lol.

i do believe that the cpu is dieing though... im having alot of troubles staying stable at 2.6 or above... right now im at 2520 and its fine so... HTT = 280 1:1 CPU = 9x
08-31-2005, 05:23 AM
ElAguila

I also have probs with the tccd version but not the rev2. Does anyone know what these patriots have in them? I thought they were tccd. See my sig for specs.
08-31-2005, 06:44 AM
waiho2k1

Any 1B3 TCCD version? I found that the 1Amod TCCD version provides me the best performance
08-31-2005, 07:35 AM
uniacid

So can anyone direct me to upping the vcore properly since it hasn't been normal for me at least since using the new cores
08-31-2005, 07:50 AM
ElAguila

You need to use the % to get higher vcore. I have found that 1.375 at 8.3% gives me around 1.47 vcore. I think if you go higher than 1.425 it will go to the default vcore.
08-31-2005, 07:52 AM
Lestat

uniacid if you look in the bios there is a setting called % over Vid
set the regular VID(vcore) to 1.45 and then set the % to 3.3 5 8 or 10 that will raise it up to 1.5v 1.55v 1.6v and 1.65v

1.65v is the max your gunna get

just set the regular to 1.45 then set the percentage to 3.3% and then see how high you can go then go to 5% and see

but you need to run Prime95 for a day to really break in the cpu then raise the voltage and overclock.

dont forget if your ram wont handle a higher HTT then your out of luck... or you could run the ram on a divider..

i dont have an X2 nor know very much about them so i dont know what the voltage limit on the X2 is so be careful
08-31-2005, 08:46 AM
uniacid

hmm I believe I set mine to 1.45 with 3 or 5% up but it seems like 1.440 is the limit, I'll try 1.425

edit:
ok 1.425 with % seems to work, kinda weird why its like that
08-31-2005, 09:19 AM
uniacid

I also have another question, how can I run two instances of prime95 to test both cpu's
08-31-2005, 10:25 AM
Lestat

you dont actually test both cpu's it does it on its own. it will use both cores. or it should be using both cores as far as i know. i could be wrong though

but yes there is a way to run 2 prime 95's to really test your cpu but i dont know how to do that.
08-31-2005, 11:12 AM
AcydRaine

Problems posting.

I switched from Kingston HyperX PC4000 @ 2.5-3-3-7-1T to OXZ Gold 2-2-2-5-1T. The problems lies in the fact I can not post with the settings I had the HyperX running at, and I forgot to set everything back to default before I switched out. Is there a jumper I can mess with to revert to default Bios settings, or something I can do to get into the bios. The troubleshooting indicator on the back hangs and beeps at memory damaged or installed improperly. I know the RAM works because I had it in a P4 rig before I switched out. Anything I can do to get it to boot or post to bios?. Also, is there a way to mod this mobo to get more DDR voltage for optimal use on the OCZ Gold since it loves the juice?
08-31-2005, 12:39 PM
Lestat

man dont you guys have a manual or go to the msi site to download the manual ?

there is a jumper underneath the orange PCI slot called JB1 i believe.. i can never remember the name of it but its a single lonely jumper all by itself about 2 inches or so from END of the mobo, and right at the bottom edge . just move that from 1/2 to 2/3 for 5 seconds then move it back. with the system off please lol.
08-31-2005, 12:43 PM
sideeffect

You need to reset the cmos its a little jumper loccated at the bottom of the board below the last pci slot.

Its kinda right in the middle and just below the orange pci slot. It will probably be a green cap with 3 pins. The cap is over the bottom two pins. Turn the pc off then take cap off and move it to cover the top two pins then move it back again then turn pc on.

The Max DDR voltage is limited by hardware not my the bios. The way to get more is by using a ddr booster or you can mod the board also but id get the booster if i were you.
08-31-2005, 12:45 PM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniacid

I also have another question, how can I run two instances of prime95 to test both cpu's

You need a mod version of prime testing the normal prime will just test 1 core. I thought i heard they have the version that supports dual core at the prime95 website. Did you look there?
08-31-2005, 01:57 PM
AcydRaine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

man dont you guys have a manual or go to the msi site to download the manual ?

there is a jumper underneath the orange PCI slot called JB1 i believe.. i can never remember the name of it but its a single lonely jumper all by itself about 2 inches or so from END of the mobo, and right at the bottom edge . just move that from 1/2 to 2/3 for 5 seconds then move it back. with the system off please lol.

Thnx, I have the manual, I just couldn't find it, besides, that is what people hang in forums for, to help others, or to complain opinions. Am I right? :) Thanks again though.
08-31-2005, 02:01 PM
AcydRaine

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideeffect

The Max DDR voltage is limited by hardware not my the bios. The way to get more is by using a ddr booster or you can mod the board also but id get the booster if i were you.

I would get the booster, but I have an XP-90 and it will not fit under there. :( Besides, this is just going to be used for a bit longer as I am getting a DFI Lanparty NF4.
08-31-2005, 02:09 PM
Sonic9

For the Cmos reset, move the green cap (where is the "JBAT" text) for 2 second and back to the original position. Photo :
http://sonic9.free.fr/sonic/PhotosPC/cmos_neo2.jpg
08-31-2005, 02:26 PM
msimax

[IMG]http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/614/imga00723ym.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/6456/imga00747um.jpg[/IMG]

got my mem today will test later on hopfully good results :)
08-31-2005, 05:04 PM
Lestat

good stuff guy how much ?

thats probably gunna be TCC5 be mindful of that stuff its not known to work very good on NON NF4 boards.
i have the OCZ PC4800 Platinum and it is pretty much designed only for the Nforce 4 boards like the DFI and ASUS.

i can only get around 280 2.4-4-3-10 on the neo2. even if i go to 3-4-4-10 or 3-5-5-10 it wont go any higher.

also try to stay with 2.7v my ram dont really work any better with more Volts. but try 2.8 and 2.85

does the X2 have the unlocked multipliers ? i hope so cuz then you can really crank the ram as far as the board will let you otherwise your gunna be stuck at a low ram speed.

lastly.. my ram can go 242mhz 2-3-2-10 so try that for yours also when you mess with different speeds.

and Acyd -

i didnt mena to imply you were lazy or dumb or anything, just surprises me that people ask certain questions here cuz it would take way way less time to go to google or the msi site and find the info.
and the JBAT1 jumper or reset cmos is in the manual and pretty clearly marked if i remember correctly but its been a while since i saw a NEO2 manual lol.
08-31-2005, 05:57 PM
msimax

right now im up to 290x9 but with the 10x i get errors from all parts of the mem
08-31-2005, 06:05 PM
ElAguila

The multis with the x2 are locked for upper multis. Mine is capped at 10x. I am thinking about getting a dfi lp nf4 ultra d soon. It depends on how cheap I can pick a pci video card. This memory does okay for 1gb sticks.
08-31-2005, 06:13 PM
msimax

trying to figure out what to do when u get errors in test 5 i know not to raise volts but ive been using winbond stuff since i started all this tccd is new to me
08-31-2005, 06:26 PM
AcydRaine

Ok, I tried the JBAT1 jumper, and I tried taking out the battery for over 5 minutes as someone in another forum suggested. No luck, I had the jumper switched for like 2 minutes. Was that to long should I try it just for a few seconds, then put it back. I can not get this damn thing to boot with MyOCZ or some Corsair XMS. What else can I try aside from buying the HyperX PC4000 I had in it before to get it to boot?
08-31-2005, 06:43 PM
Lestat

well first off you NEED the ddr booster resetting the bios defualts the memory voltage to like 2.7v

i cant say this enough you NEEEEDDDDD the ddr booster so you can get above 3v.

the OCZ and mushkin are real flakey when it comes to booting the UTT ram at low volts. ive seen it way way too many times.
are you able to verify that the ram is even good ?

screw that hyperX 4000 that stuff is the worst PC4000 on the market i have seen generic 4000 overclock more than this stuff does. lol

anyways your not gunna get high voltage ram to run on that board even at low clocks without a ddr booster.

but it is surprising that it wont even boot

pull one stick out and leave one in, try that see what happens.

frankly your not gunna overclock that ram unless you have the booster and really. tccd ram will run 2-2-2-5 just like that UTT stuff will at low mhz.

where is your old ram ?

MSIMAX your running your running your X2 at almost 2.7ghz thats pretty good. and thats a damn good overclock for that ram on this board wish my OCZ would do that.
i think me and sean need to have a talk.......

also 10x multi's seem to be goofy even the venice's and other chips.

its also part of the motherboard ,,, same with mine if i switch to 9x or 8x i can get a higher HTT.

try 8x and run the ram on 166mhz and see how far you can crank her up...
what is your cpu voltage at ? and what is your ram voltage at ?
08-31-2005, 06:53 PM
AcydRaine

I had to sell the HyperX a couple months ago as I needed the cash I got out of it. I know it didn't OC worth a crap. I do not need the booster to boot up some Corsair CH5 as I had used that same ram to boot into the bios before when I messed something up. I have tried the 1 stick, 2 sticks, 4 sticks. I think I may have screwed something up, though I have no clue as to what. I got the OCZ not really for this setup, but for the setup I will be making around Christmas time. I just wanted to run it stock so I can play games without my wife wanting her PC back. :)
09-01-2005, 12:26 AM
sideeffect

I think My neo2 Platinum is broken. Keeps rebooting now after its been on for maybe 30 mins then wont start up again. I have to leave it off for maybe 2 - 3 hours then start it again and it works for maybe 30 mins again.

Get windows bbcode 9c error which is faulty CPU, M/B or RAM. The ram i have tested in another pc and its good. So its either faulty cpu or motherboard and i really dont think its the cpu.

So looks like my time with the neo 2 is short lived. Need another motherboard now. Not sure if ill get another neo 2 or get a DFI nforce 3. I cant go Nforce 4 yet because i would need to sell my 6800gt agp card and buy a SLI card and also id need a 24 pin PSU and i dont have any money ....

poop :mad:

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