they better price it at 200/300 then :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by insurgent
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they better price it at 200/300 then :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by insurgent
This would be putting the cart before the horse. This is assuming they can even get enough units out there after initial paper launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by insurgent
I doubt that too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by natty
Yeah I know, I just don't think it will be that bad, maybe wishful thinking, I just want prices to go down :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kadozer
rofl, this pic is so full of win :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
this one as well. hehee.Quote:
Originally Posted by trinibwoy
@annihilat0r: it's in the 2nd post in this thread, where all kinds of information is gathered.
When I had put that pic here my post was deleted. ??
I know it's FUD but figured it is relevant http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18072/1/
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Originally Posted by FUDZILLA
€450....
good good
Just a question, but I read somewhere that Unigine was saying its Heaven benchmark v1.1 IS the same as the 2.0. So why have a 1.1 if it's SAME as 2.0? Just seems kind of strange to me. I'm sure there are SOME differences, question is, what?
Also, everyone has seen that GTX480 Heaven bench video where it shows the v1.1 and my question is...does ATI have a version 1.1 too? If not, then hmmmm.:confused:
Hello,
This is my first post here.
At B3D forums, someone posted this image:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6338/gf100die.jpg
Its interesting, but the text written in the picture doesnt make sence with that box. By squiting and zooming at it I really see:
H = 2.08
W = 2.28
Nowhere i see the 23mm, with the reached conclusion of 529mm2.
But the H*W with the picture numbers give a pretty interesting number: 474mm2, close to the other rumored 480...
We want B1 chips !!! :D
LOL! You dont even know for sure if a B1 is needed, or if it is worth it :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
hooooly sht! thats impressive! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
hmmmmm looks like thats a bunch of 480 chips that clocks to 800mhz+? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mindfury
i wonder if thats on air though? i doubt it tbh, especially after seing those weird water marks on the ihs :D so my guess is that this is on water or even chilled water, which is very common for evaluation of chips.
800-900 on chilled water... then my guess is those chips will do ~650/700 on good air... nothing really new then...
I would like to know from where are you taking the conclusions about clocks? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
oh i didnt see that they are numbered linearily... i thought i saw several with the same number :D
Yeah, das' right, I listen rumours too much. Not very clever from my side. :( :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Picao84
well, its VERY unlikely that B1 is going to make things worse, and its very likely that B1 will improve clockspeeds and reduce power, which means higher clocks as well as heat isnt limiting that much anymore...so it does make sense to ALWAYS want a new stepping :D
Well if Charlie is right and the architecture is broken (playing devils advocate here :p), would a B1 improve things that much?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
AFAIK every stepping pushes production 2 months or so (charlie says). It must be the case that Nvidia currently is in the process of designing B1, or it has already been put in the oven. Which probably means that 2 or 3 months after launch we can see the B1 stepping - probably with a full GF100 with 512 SP's, and the dual GTX 470. God, this made so much sense. I think I'll apply for a CEO position at Nvidia.
What does Charlie know about the architecture that he can say it's the architecture that is botched and causing all the problems ? Maybe it just needs more time to be designed efficiently. If Nvidia engineers made a decision to go some way, well it can be the wrong way to go, but it can't be so bad as to not allow for the development of a decent graphics chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Picao84
After all he had put the GF100's at the WORST possible light, saying that they are broken and completely unmanufacturable, but here is Nvidia (or TSMC), actually manufacturing the chips. Nothing can be THAT bad.
annihilat0r ... yeah man, you are almost right! The biggest launch in NV history is planned to this summer.
Hmm.. I dont think nVIDIA would trust you.. Common you are basing your conclusions on the guy who wants more to see nVIDIA fail :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Given it is most likely A3 will be the shipping part, any benifits of B1 will only effect adopters later on down the road so unless it offers some tangible overclocking headroom, I'd say its nothing to be excited about from a consumer standpoint ( given Nvidia will ship with their reference clocks, improvements in yields and steppings won't change this down... ; ie the 480 will have the same clocks from birth to death )
I still highly doubt the viability of a dual gpu GF100 on 40nm... it would have to be so cut down its not even funny.