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11-16-2007, 03:29 PM
Warboy

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Originally Posted by Maglin

Warboy. Don't use small data size (CPU) I was almost 1hr stable at extremely low voltages. Then when I went to blend test it BSODed. Ended up have to up the vCPU back to where it was before and up the CPUPLL a few notches to get it stable on RAM (Large data size). I wouldn't really suggest anyone test with small data size. Use Medium or Large. I also get some random drops in voltages. I actually think it might be running PC Probe along side Everest.

Thats not the point of that test, I'm pointing out for no reason at all the CPU Vcore drops to around 1.2volts! These drops could be the source of the instability problems everyone is having.
I've already fully tested these setup. OCCT was just to detected anomalies, like a few pages back, i did one with everest.
11-16-2007, 03:32 PM
TheSamurai

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Originally Posted by jonny_ftm

I would have RMA ed the drive too. What ever the reason, a good drive shouldn't have bad sectors. If you have bad sectors, the drive got a serious issue and needs to be changed as a bigger failure could occur. New drives are that way. Few years ago, there was no security and the heads could litterally fall on the disks on a bad shutdown. Now, if it happens, means your disk got broken

that's what i was worried about... a failure later on down the road and not being able to return it. i have installed xp64 on the other one with a slow format just to double check it. everything turned out fine.

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Originally Posted by kimandsally

This is one I use http://www.hdtune.com/

It's good and best of all it's free.:up:

thanks, i'll take a look!
11-16-2007, 03:33 PM
safan80

WB

do you have load line calibration enabled?
11-16-2007, 03:33 PM
TheSamurai

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegettoxp

Hey Guys, I didn't wanted to start another thread on this MB, so here is my question. After reading the quick review on X48 at AnandTech, I wasn't really suprised that there isn't whole alot of BIG difference between X38 and X48. My plan right now is to buy the ASUS Maximus Formula SE Motherboard. Is it safe for me to buy this board. I know its already at the EOL, but as long as I get Bios/driver support from Asus and As long as Asus gives me some Tech suport for this board, I am willing to buy it. So can you guys comment on my question. Is it safe for me to get the ASUS Maximus Formula SE (X38). I really don't need X48 in my opinion. The Asus already supports 1600FSB. So guys please comment on my question. Thank you for your help!

Just for FYI, Which other X38 Motherboard would you guys recommend from Asus or from Others?

P.S. Fusion

will you just get your credit card out and order it already!?!?!?!? sheesh! :D
11-16-2007, 03:34 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

WB

do you have load line calibration enabled?

Indeed I do, Also,ElEctric_EyE.

The Temps drop that fast because its like 32F in my room right now, I'm wrapped up in blanks. I made it cold so i can do some testing.
11-16-2007, 03:39 PM
safan80

it might be your power supply. I'm not seeing any drops on any of the psus I've used in this board.
11-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Maglin

Warboy you are insain. "My cup of water is almost ice cause I have to bench test. Sorry honey you have to wear a jacket when you come over." My wife would just throw my computer gear outside if I ever did that. Although I used to get my room to around 50*F when I was single so my puter was nice and cool.
11-16-2007, 03:49 PM
ElEctric_EyE

My point is I don't think the ramp down would be as fast as the ramp up. Real world I believe you would see a sawtooth type waveform, that is a quick rampup from heat, but slow rampdown. Something is fishy there.
11-16-2007, 04:05 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

it might be your power supply. I'm not seeing any drops on any of the psus I've used in this board.

I don't think its the power supply, But OCCT did detect something strange on the 5V rail for no reason.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...8h00-Volt3.png
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...8h00-Volt5.png
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...h00-Volt12.png

PS I know I'm insane, Insanely Xtreme Air Overclocker :rofl: :ROTF: :yepp: :P

My temps on the CPU after these test was only 28C on core 3-4, and 31C on 1-2.

For Some reason cores 1 and 2 are alot hotter, I know their on different dies but damn.
11-16-2007, 04:07 PM
TheSamurai

how do i go about getting these pretty little graphs?
11-16-2007, 04:12 PM
devilhood

Just thought I'd mention something.

I managed to solve the iaStor timeouts and freezes by simply doing this:

Making sure there are no external hard disks connected.
Making sure to load the ICH9R driver on the drive select screen during Vista install from Floppy.
Once fully Vista is setup, install the latest 8.4.0.1016 Production Version of Intel INF, restart, boot and then restart again.
Lastly, install the latest 7.8.0.1013 version of Intel Matrix Storage drivers.
I then checked the iaStor registry and Parameters had already disabled LPM for me, very interesting, because that did not occur the last 3 times I had installed.

Anyways, hope this helps a few people that have experienced any problems in-regards to RAID instabilities.
11-16-2007, 04:24 PM
TheSamurai

how do you go about installing the newest drivers once the system is setup? i made a floppy with the new ones already but i was just wondering. also, i chose the ichr8/ichr9 RAID (desk/work/server) one. obviously i haven't been able to figure out if it's the right one (though it seemed to work) because my drive was bad.

i was just wondering because most people are choosing a ichr7 driver. what exactly is the difference?
11-16-2007, 04:59 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSamurai

how do i go about getting these pretty little graphs?

Setup the Monitor settings under OCCT
11-16-2007, 05:14 PM
egandt

Sorry to ask again, but anyone with a QX9650, able to set the multiplier?, Second anyone on 0702 able to set the multiplier of any processor at all?

Thanks,
ERIC
11-16-2007, 05:23 PM
CyberDruid

My little Maxipad has been Folding her gutz out now all week 24/7 at 3600.

The settings are all "green" voltages in BIOS and the temps are good enough I guess...About to drag the bollocks onto the porch to take advantage of this 3C weather :D

Just got an I-RAM device and flex PCI cable so I'll be benching the crap out of the Maxipad again and looking for some souped up Super Pi times.

And if GOD would stop punishing me for my inequities I might even get a damn YORKfield in the lil beeyotch. That might be too much to hope for :shrug:
11-16-2007, 05:26 PM
393

On the ASUS website I can't download anyhting under Maximus Formula SE, but there are downloads in the Maximus Formula page. Are the BIOS and drivers the same for both these boards?
11-16-2007, 05:29 PM
pepinorang

Hi Guys,

Max FSB so far here is 500x6 valid with my QX6850 on water for both chipset (30~34°) and CPU (22~24°) this cpu can do 515x6 valid on P35 in same conditions. Since Three days trying to got a 490x6/490x8 rockstable but it's really hard this board really drive me crazy :mad: I think 480~485 will be more doable... I will post my results here later...

P.S: Wich bios is the best for you guys ? I use 0505 here

Bye
p€p|n0r@ng
11-16-2007, 05:37 PM
Majoram

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegettoxp

Hey Guys, I didn't wanted to start another thread on this MB, so here is my question. After reading the quick review on X48 at AnandTech, I wasn't really suprised that there isn't whole alot of BIG difference between X38 and X48. My plan right now is to buy the ASUS Maximus Formula SE Motherboard. Is it safe for me to buy this board. I know its already at the EOL, but as long as I get Bios/driver support from Asus and As long as Asus gives me some Tech suport for this board, I am willing to buy it. So can you guys comment on my question. Is it safe for me to get the ASUS Maximus Formula SE (X38). I really don't need X48 in my opinion. The Asus already supports 1600FSB. So guys please comment on my question. Thank you for your help!

Just for FYI, Which other X38 Motherboard would you guys recommend from Asus or from Others?

P.S. Fusion

So far people prefer the ASUS board. Abit seems to be okay but a lot less "fun extras". Check the Abit IX38 Quad thread for more info.
The DFI isn't out yet ... as far as I know.

As for X38 vs X48, ask yourself if you can afford the DDR3 RAM?!
So far as I've read, only DDR3 boards have been mentioned.
That should help with your decision.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDruid

My little Maxipad has been Folding her gutz out now all week 24/7 at 3600.

Maxipad is what you call her? :rolleyes: :D
Creative name though :clap:

I'm thinking of naming mine Bubba :D I had a better suited name but I forgot to write it down and now it's just lost in the ether...

What you guys call your comps?
11-16-2007, 05:37 PM
sdumper

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDruid

My little Maxipad has been Folding her gutz out now all week 24/7 at 3600.

The settings are all "green" voltages in BIOS and the temps are good enough I guess...About to drag the bollocks onto the porch to take advantage of this 3C weather :D

Just got an I-RAM device and flex PCI cable so I'll be benching the crap out of the Maxipad again and looking for some souped up Super Pi times.

And if GOD would stop punishing me for my inequities I might even get a damn YORKfield in the lil beeyotch. That might be too much to hope for :shrug:

Cyber
cant wait to see the results :)

I ordered a QX9650 today so hoping it will pair well with this puppy...we shall see
11-16-2007, 05:40 PM
Majoram

Quote:

Originally Posted by 393

On the ASUS website I can't download anyhting under Maximus Formula SE, but there are downloads in the Maximus Formula page. Are the BIOS and drivers the same for both these boards?

Yes, the only difference is the cooling setup that is used on each board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepinorang

Hi Guys,

I have Maximus Formula SE since about one month now and it's 1.03g.

Max FSB so far here is 500x6 valid with my QX6850 on water for both chipset (30~34°) and CPU (22~24°) this cpu can do 515x6 valid on P35 in same conditions. Since Three days trying to got a 490x6/490x8 rockstable but it's really hard this board really drive me crazy :mad: I think 480~485 will be more doable... I will post my results here later...

Bye
p€p|n0r@ng

You have the Water Cooled version and it is 1.03g?

I don't mean to insult but care to post a pic that includes both revision number and the water block in sight?
11-16-2007, 05:46 PM
pepinorang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majoram

Yes, the only difference is the cooling setup that is used on each board.

You have the Water Cooled version and it is 1.03g?

I don't mean to insult but care to post a pic that includes both revision number and the water block in sight?

EDIT: uh really sorry I just relook at it to be sure and it's a 1.02g really sorry for the trouble :shakes:

Bye
p€p|n0r@ng
11-16-2007, 05:49 PM
Majoram

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maglin

Everyone has their own method to finding their OC. I used to use Prime95 for 10 minutes. Now I use OCCT for 10 minutes and then tweak the same setting again (usually going down in voltage) going down in 2 incraments until i either error or it won't post. If I get hang up/no post then I turn puter off and then restart as sometimes the settings don't go into effect properly and a full power down (cold boot) is required and it works just fine. Once I get an error I go up one and run a 20 min test then move onto tweaking another setting. It's time consuming but has helped me with stability greatly on this board.

Just wondering but does running more than one test stress the comp more or do some tests just negate each other?

Say for example running OCCT on RAM and small FFTs in Prime95 or some other mix of tests.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssideratos

Thanks to ZilverPhish, Jonny_ftm, Marjoram and all others for the replies and advice.

Majoram and jonny_ftm. Thanks for the link to the new OCCT 1.2 beta.

But Majoram, you're right, I was using 1.1.1. In researching my issues on this thread I noticed mentions to 1.2beta, but couldn't find it. I must have missed previous links if they are in here.

I promise I'll test out the new OCCT and report back soon.

Cool. Been reading this thread a lot and unfortunately I don't know enough to help with the really tough stuff but good to know I was able to help this time.

After you recover, let us know how it goes! Good luck.
11-16-2007, 05:53 PM
Majoram

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepinorang

Ok no problem, I don't have camera at home but tomorow I will pick up my parent's one for you ;)

Bye
p€p|n0r@ng

Cool, thanks! I always thought the 1.03g on my board meant the change in heatsink since the non-SE (mine) came after the SE.

I've seen before where a change in heatsink usually would warrant a change in revision number as well. But once you post your pic, then that means the revision number is tied to the board only and has nothing to do with the cooling setup.
11-16-2007, 05:54 PM
CyberDruid

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdumper

Cyber
cant wait to see the results :)

I ordered a QX9650 today so hoping it will pair well with this puppy...we shall see

Yeah I was hoping to be one of the first kids on the Block with a York...but that was last month...:shakes:

But w/e as long as it FOLDS
11-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDruid

Yeah I was hoping to be one of the first kids on the Block with a York...but that was last month...:shakes:

But w/e as long as it FOLDS

I wish i had a York.

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